[8:43 AM] LL: nah but @2 GF's besides "den shittalks good saturdays" whats your actual argument
[8:43 AM] Kash: bet
[8:43 AM] Kash: lol
[8:43 AM] Kash: a lot of people shit talk this server
[8:43 AM] Fleurer: Ok I'll leave this argument.
[8:43 AM] LL: it being a new tier means we should strive to have the council starting off that's most representative in the tier
[8:43 AM] Fleurer: Just know I agree with you LL
[8:43 AM] LL: fleurer thats probably a good idea
[8:43 AM] Kash: lmao
[8:43 AM] LL: these go on for a while(edited)
[8:43 AM] Fleurer: And njnp is being stubborn as hell.
[8:43 AM] LL: i appreciate the support tho
[8:44 AM] Kash: a while
[8:44 AM] Kash: more like ages
[8:44 AM] Fleurer: No problem.
[8:44 AM] Fleurer: Goodluck convincing him.
[8:45 AM] LL: thanks
[8:45 AM] Kash: LL we both know it’s bogus.
[8:45 AM] Fleurer: We all know*
[8:45 AM] LL: every mod that's weighed in on this is on my side but he still wont change his point of view
[8:46 AM] RaymondSt.John: Rriv you gotta pay homage man
[8:46 AM] RaymondSt.John: I gotta agree with LL here
[8:51 AM] Splurge: What's the argument?
[8:52 AM] LL: basically
[8:54 AM] LL: Someone from den of thieves (another discord) gave njnp our document for a tier that we spent a lot of time on, called BL Ubers. NJNP proceeded to copy this doc over and rebrand the tier as GS OU, and I'm asking for him to let one of us onto the council in exchange for using our doc; however, he blatantly refuses to let any of the old BL Ubers council onto the GS OU council because he has a strong hatred for people from den because they shittalk him.
[8:54 AM] LL: That pretty much covers it
[8:54 AM] Hunter: their fault for giving the doc tbh
[8:55 AM] Flexeur: Thats a bad thought process Hunter.
[8:55 AM] Flexeur: Js.
[8:55 AM] ImRickAstley: I'd rather we move on and start from scratch if we're not going to let a Den member on to the council.(edited)
[8:55 AM] LL: We helped give a jumpstart for his tier, so I think it's only fair to give us representation
[8:56 AM] Splurge: I mean if it's a den member who's also on gs then I don't see why not so long as they actually play the meta
[8:56 AM] Hunter: is den asking for them to be council tho
[8:56 AM] ImRickAstley: A tier between OU and ubers isn't an exclusive idea, but if we're going to make use of the documents we should probably have a Den member.
[8:56 AM] LL: den is asking
[8:56 AM] LL: for one member
[8:56 AM] LL: from den
[8:56 AM] Hunter: oh ok
[8:56 AM] LL: to be on the council
[8:56 AM] LL: lol
[8:56 AM] Hunter: yeah then do it
[8:56 AM] Hunter: thats actually jacking someones idea
[8:56 AM] ImRickAstley: That being said if you ditch the documents and don't use the Den initial list there shouldn't really be any kind of obligation to include them.
[8:57 AM] Flexeur: Yes and no its not jacking if they give u the doc.
[8:57 AM] Flexeur: They helped
[8:57 AM] Flexeur: you pay a price for it
[8:57 AM] ImRickAstley: Like I said I'd rather we include 1 member, or just build our own doc.
[8:57 AM] Splurge: ^^
[8:57 AM] Flexeur: ^
[8:57 AM] LL: ^
[8:58 AM] LL: obviously if this tier was restarted from scratch the den documents and tiering would not be used whatsoever
[8:58 AM] LL: and rriv would have to come up with an initial usage based banlist
[8:58 AM] ImRickAstley: That's the approach I'd rather take.
[8:58 AM] ImRickAstley: Although personally I'd actually just go through all the uber pokemon.
[8:58 AM] LL: Den has spent
[8:58 AM] LL: hundreds upon hundreds of games playtesting already
[8:59 AM] LL: so we know this tier is very balanced
[8:59 AM] LL: there's some controversial mons that could be banned but the council ultimately decided they werent broken
[9:00 AM] LL: so restarting for the sake of spiting den is just stupid
[9:00 AM] LL: lol
[9:01 AM] 2 GF's: We didnt jack anything
[9:01 AM] 2 GF's: For the 5th time
[9:01 AM] 2 GF's: And im not adding any den members thats just foolish.(edited)
[9:01 AM] LL: then(edited)
[9:01 AM] LL: get your own
[9:02 AM] LL: fucking doc
[9:02 AM] LL: if you arent letting any of us in
[9:02 AM] LL: you cant use our doc if you wont let us onto the council
[9:02 AM] 2 GF's: LOL
[9:02 AM] LL: no im fucking serious
[9:02 AM] Flexeur: I agree.
[9:02 AM] 2 GF's: Idc
[9:02 AM] 2 GF's: If your serious
[9:02 AM] LL: you cant
[9:02 AM] 2 GF's: You have like nothing to stop it
[9:02 AM] LL: oh yeah?
[9:03 AM] ImRickAstley: We wouldn't be restarting for the sake of spiting den, we'd just be restarting so it's original work.
[9:03 AM] LL: yeah
[9:03 AM] LL: id be fine
[9:03 AM] LL: if u restarted
[9:03 AM] LL: but if ur gonna use den's resources
[9:03 AM] LL: you should add a den member on
[9:03 AM] Flexeur: But what do the other people of Den think about this?
[9:04 AM] 2 GF's: Den is cpg
[9:04 AM] 2 GF's: Who cares what they think
[9:04 AM] 2 GF's: The people who shit talk this server
[9:04 AM] 2 GF's: On the daily
[9:04 AM] LL: no
[9:04 AM] LL: we hate
[9:04 AM] LL: cpg
[9:04 AM] LL: lol
[9:04 AM] 2 GF's: Will get nothing here
[9:04 AM] 2 GF's: You hate what u are
[9:05 AM] LL: a vocal minority
[9:05 AM] LL: doesnt mean
[9:05 AM] LL: the majority of den
[9:05 AM] LL: should get penalized
[9:05 AM] LL: theres like 2 ppl from den that shittalk good sats
[9:05 AM] LL: hell dokk made a video 4 months ago that got you like 200 new members