15:46 - [L²] Enzyme (1): http://limelightgaming.net/index.php?topic=2763.0
15:46 - [L²] Enzyme (1): I suggest you have a read-up bud :)
15:47 - [L²:RP] GRiiM: Um...right but that all happened after you permed him for the supposed DDoSing on FL.
15:48 - [L²] Enzyme (1): Not really, not the youtube evidence and etc
15:50 - [L²:RP] GRiiM has changed their name to GRiiM.
15:51 - GRiiM: Right and the videos were all taken after he was permed if you look at the times.
15:51 - GRiiM: Where is the evidence of the DDoS threats?
15:51 - [L²] Enzyme (1): A lot classified
15:51 - [L²] Enzyme (1): Anyways afk
15:54 - GRiiM: Perm-banning a player with the accusation that they DDoSed which is pretty serious and then refusing to show any evidence on request, even to the accused player? Right. Seems to me that LL is just afraid of another DDoS from Josh.
16:28 - [L²] Enzyme is now Online.
16:28 - [L²] Enzyme: I can promise you that josh has not been involved at all. I haven't heard from that guy in ages.
16:29 - GRiiM: Alright well another attack from someone at FL then.
16:29 - [L²] Enzyme: FL has not been involved in any manner. No threat or anything.
16:29 - [L²] Enzyme: As I see it, I've spent enough time on FL doing the best I can to keep it where it was. I respect FL enough to send a clear message out that we don't tolerate that.
16:30 - [L²] Enzyme: I've gone through enough periods with DDOS, and if there's anything I can do to maybe deter people from DDOSing communities then sure
16:30 - [L²] Enzyme: Hell, it might even help with the relationship between FL and LL so it's more of a friendly competition instead of the god awful dispute
16:32 - GRiiM: It all falls back to this - "[L²] Nacreas: It was reported to us that you launched at DDoS attack on Another Community by their administrative staff."
16:34 - GRiiM: From that statement it just sounds like there was a chat between LL and FL staff and they threw it out there that Darthvirus DDoSed them. No evidence has been mentioned and all that was said that Darthvirus needed to "sort your shit with FL".
16:34 - [L²] Enzyme: It's poor wording from Nacreas, really.
16:35 - [L²] Enzyme: But it's safe to say that he's not getting unbanned; especially after the actions he's commited after he recieved the ban
16:35 - GRiiM: I understand that but I still don't see why he was banned in the first place.
16:36 - [L²] Enzyme: He was because there was enough reason to issue a ban while we investigated the case properly
16:37 - [L²] Enzyme: If he acted properly mature and calm, then he might even have gotten away with the "accusation"
16:43 - GRiiM: Again, no real evidence was provided to him so of course he would be annoyed with that. It's a classic case of guilty until proven innocent from the start.
16:44 - GRiiM: He should not have impersonated admins though, of course.
16:49 - GRiiM: "So because we did the right thing to avoid any problems with any communities and banned you for something that you and I both know that you did was wrong that makes us a bad community? So we're only bad because we banned you for something that you did wrong. I see. " - Rocket     All these admins are straight up accusing him of DDoSing and no proof has been provided. It does make LL a bad community for banning a member if there was no proof  just to "avoid any problems with any communities"...
17:03 - GRiiM: Up until the staff impersonation he was told that he had to resolve his issues with FL before he could come back to LL which is just bullshit. They are a seperate community. You said that FL has not been involved with this but it sounds like they have been very involved and this was handled extremely poorly by LL in my opinion.
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18:12 - [L²] Enzyme is now Online.
18:17 - [L²] Enzyme: I agree with that. I don't see why he had to sort out the shit with FL beforehand and I spoke to Nacreas about that
18:17 - [L²] Enzyme: I was informed of this case yesterday and I wanted to discuss with FL what evidence and info they had before we move forward but Nacreas issued a ban while I was sleeping
18:17 - [L²] Enzyme: Not knowing that I was trying to handle the case myself
18:21 - GRiiM: Nacreas claimed that the ban was authorised, was that not the case then?
18:26 - [L²] Enzyme: It was discussed internally and the team agreed with the ban
18:26 - [L²] Enzyme: But I wanted to handle it myself to double-check the details and etc
18:27 - [L²] Enzyme: And then he went ahead with all the crazy shit
18:31 - GRiiM: Right, and was there actual evidence of him DDoSing?
15 November 2015
18:35 - GRiiM: Besides the accusation made by FL staff.
18:44 - [L²] Enzyme: This is when I give the infamous "afraid it's not available to the public" statement
18:44 - [L²] Enzyme: And you say "how conveniend"
18:44 - [L²] Enzyme: I take a sip of my drink
18:44 - [L²] Enzyme: And sunglasses casually land on my face
18:44 - [L²] Enzyme: And it says "deal with it"
18:44 - [L²] Enzyme: And David Hasslehoff appears and sings a rocky jam
18:45 - GRiiM: Yep, that pretty much sums it up