ITT: Flamy has a civil discussion

[1:35 AM] Sefeia: Hello.
[5:47 AM] Flamy: Hi there! Just woke up.
[9:18 AM] Sefeia: Back.
[9:19 AM] Flamy: Welcome back! You wanted to talk with me about something?
[9:19 AM] Sefeia: Yes. Well, it was mainly about what you typed before.
[9:19 AM] Flamy: Oh?
[9:20 AM] Sefeia: Are you people still treating me like someone who is not worth living?
[9:20 AM] Flamy: Never have we implied such
[9:20 AM] Flamy: Only that you do not take criticism well, despite our best efforts
[9:21 AM] Sefeia: It went from criticism to just putting me down. That was the thing.
[9:21 AM] Sefeia: Then there was the bit about you thinking that I was too retarded to know what is going on or something.
[9:22 AM] Flamy: I might have implied such, yes, because few people are indeed so defensive about their own writing
[9:22 AM] Flamy: Then again... Even you were pretty aware of how lacking the work was, so we ought have cut you some slack
[9:22 AM] Flamy: A mistake made in response to yours, but a mistake nonetheless.
[9:23 AM] Sefeia: Anyway, the whole thing escalated by so much that it was more to do with people typing this and that about me and less about the fanfic.
[9:23 AM] Flamy: You... did some extraordinary deeds.
[9:23 AM] Flamy: Messaging people out of the blue, then deleting the message afterwards
[9:24 AM] Sefeia: Back in February/January? That was so you people could not use any of my messages against me in such ways as altering it and turning them into something else.
[9:24 AM] Sefeia: Besides, a ban removes them, regardless.
[9:24 AM] Flamy: nah, you can set it such that a ban doesn't delete messages on Discord
[9:25 AM] Flamy: also screenshots don't lie, we wouldn't lie about the exact contents of a message, if asked
[9:25 AM] Flamy: I'm glad we can manage to speak, actually, apparently the last time someone tried to contact you, it did not go well- Is there something about any of this that I might be misinformed about, seeing as we're talking now?
[9:26 AM] Sefeia: Well, probably the fact that people usually take this all one-way.
[9:26 AM] Flamy: Yeah, I see that- You were doing this, largely because of a lot of the shittalking we did
[9:26 AM] Flamy: Say, was that your first written work you actually showed other people? Just asking
[9:27 AM] Sefeia: So in all honesty, it is more about me than it is about them, not to mention the people in question hardly ever admit to their own undoings and such,
[9:27 AM] Sefeia: No. More like the fifth or sixth.
[9:27 AM] Sefeia: I did fanfics 5 years ago.
[9:28 AM] Sefeia: The first ever one that I did I disliked since I merely copied someone.,
[9:28 AM] Flamy: Oh? I see... Remind me, did you show that particular one way back?
[9:28 AM] Sefeia: And yes, I did.
[9:28 AM] Flamy: Okay, got it, just getting my facts straight
[9:29 AM] Sefeia: ALso, as far as criticism goes, my comment to you was not me having a hissy fit. Plus, back on DP, I actually took someone's (I think it was AHM) criticism into account.
[9:30 AM] Sefeia: Because of the amount of dialogue to which I used, I forgot to include an adequate amount of informative parts to accommodate it.
[9:31 AM] Sefeia: I have to thank that person for that, at least.
[9:31 AM] Flamy: Nyaha, glad at least something good came of it
[9:31 AM] Flamy: Yeah, dialogue and exposition are hard things to balance, starting to realize that myself
[9:32 AM] Flamy: Gotta keep the sense of movement alive while they're talkin', it's a damn craze to have that in my head
[9:32 AM] Flamy: 'Specially 'cos I know a gal what's written some good stuff, an' it's got exactly that
[9:33 AM] Sefeia: The most annoying thing about this episode (no pun intended) is that someone had the audacity and indecency to steal my work.
[9:33 AM] Flamy: ...But why?
[9:33 AM] Flamy: And who?
[9:34 AM] Sefeia: SOmeone's whose FF.net username is supposed to be in mockery of me.
[9:34 AM] Sefeia: I do not know who it was per se, but I gather it was someone from TP Reddit.
[9:34 AM] Sefeia: I know who Pencil of the Gods was, however.
[9:34 AM] Flamy: It's not someone I'd know from DP, I know that much
[9:35 AM] Flamy: Plus, their bio info is pretentious as shit
[9:35 AM] Sefeia: Pencil of the Gods was "Hanged" something.
[9:35 AM] Sefeia: I only remember the "Hanged" part of the username.
[9:35 AM] Flamy: Oh, I see
[9:35 AM] Flamy: So... What now?
[9:35 AM] Sefeia: Well, I just want all of this to stop.
[9:36 AM] Sefeia: Plus the fact I am trying to get that stolen fic taken down. I already made a comment on TAPIR.
[9:36 AM] Sefeia: Pity about  FF.net's reputation.
[9:36 AM] Flamy: FF.net is uh
[9:36 AM] Flamy: ...Yeah.
[9:36 AM] Flamy: What can ya really say about a place what's infrastructure is as old as that?
[9:37 AM] Sefeia: Also, I noticed that Winter person made a comment to me.
[9:37 AM] Sefeia: I did not realise until afterwards that this was the same person who I warned.
[9:38 AM] Flamy: Man, Winters's comment was really
[9:38 AM] Flamy: really something else
[9:38 AM] Flamy: ngl that one's golden, even in context
[9:38 AM] Flamy: who even goes that far
[9:38 AM] Flamy: I just reread it
[9:39 AM] Sefeia: This was my PM with Winter: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/484666071371087894/521017915336818689/unknown.png
[9:39 AM] Flamy: Oh, really? Huh
[9:39 AM] Sefeia: This was months before that comment of his/hers.
[9:40 AM] Flamy: Neato
[9:40 AM] Sefeia: Seriously, I'm glad I stopped publishing more chapters.
[9:41 AM] Flamy: Didn't want to deal with more criticism, or didn't like how it went?
[9:41 AM] Sefeia: And on that note, there was only one person who I sent the entirety of the fic to.
[9:42 AM] Sefeia: It was more to do with being put down, among criticism.
[9:43 AM] Sefeia: I ended up removing the chapters when I noticed people were using it for fun.
[9:43 AM] Flamy: Yeah, I get you
[9:44 AM] Flamy: Anything more to say? I'll need do get busy with dishes for a bit
[9:44 AM] Sefeia: I think that is all.
[9:44 AM] Sefeia: No doubt I am still on bad terms with you people.
[9:45 AM] Flamy: Sure you are.
[9:45 AM] Flamy: Don't mean we can't get along!
[9:45 AM] Sefeia: I mean, I would like to put things right.
[9:46 AM] Sefeia: I only act the way that I do because of certain things that happen.
[9:46 AM] Sefeia: Just a pity I overdid it with the alts months ago.,
[9:47 AM] Flamy: Yeah, that part is
[9:47 AM] Flamy: Illegal to Discord
[9:47 AM] Sefeia: So I read.
[9:49 AM] Sefeia: But what can I do? I mean, the reason why I came to DP was so that I could RP.
[9:49 AM] Sefeia: But at least it is not as immature as TP reddit.,
[10:07 AM] Flamy: Nah, some people wanna talk mad shit about DP
[10:07 AM] Flamy: If they're right, they're right, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it, is my policy, and I see nothing broken that we can fix in our current state
[10:08 AM] Flamy: /r/touhou is what you mean by the TP reddit, right?
[10:08 AM] Sefeia: What, so you think that this whole thing between us can be tended to?
[10:08 AM] Flamy: Yeah, I think we can fix this whole matter up
[10:08 AM] Sefeia: And yes, /r/Touhou is what I meant.
[10:08 AM] Flamy: Talking with the head admin right now, actually
[10:08 AM] Sefeia: The one with the ZUN picture.
[10:09 AM] Flamy: I don't really Reddit all that much, they an' I don't get along y'see
[10:09 AM] Sefeia: I cannot remember his full name. "Jun" somthing.
[10:10 AM] Sefeia: And you just reminded me about how some northerners speak.
[10:10 AM] Flamy: Yeah, so they's say
[10:10 AM] Sefeia: Not that I have anything against that.
[10:11 AM] Sefeia: I don't go on Reddit either, but I did go on the server.
[10:11 AM] Sefeia: Wish I never knew about it.
[10:11 AM] Flamy: Eh, anything associated with Reddit jus' leaves a real bad taste on my mouth
[10:12 AM] Flamy: Speaking of bad tastes, whoo-wee, there was a container of real dried-up nappa kimchi with all the stuff I had to wash today
[10:12 AM] Flamy: And MAN
[10:12 AM] Flamy: did it smell bad
[10:13 AM] Flamy: Thought I was gonna die, I sure did
[10:13 AM] Sefeia: Nappa was cauliflower, right?
[10:13 AM] Flamy: It's a type of cabbage
[10:13 AM] Sefeia: Ah.
[10:13 AM] Sefeia: And I was about to have cereal with off milk.
[10:14 AM] Flamy: Off-milk?
[10:14 AM] Sefeia: Yes.
[10:15 AM] Sefeia: For some reason the temperature of fridge was altered.
[10:15 AM] Sefeia: Either that, or it just wasn't working.
[10:15 AM] Flamy: Egads, that's not a good sign at all! Did you check everything in the fridge, in case anythin' was gettin' rotten?
[10:16 AM] Sefeia: Thankfully, I did not have much in the fridge.
[10:16 AM] Sefeia: Just bread, cheese, Vimto and Pepsi Max.
[10:16 AM] Sefeia: Both the bread and the cheese were OK.
[10:17 AM] Sefeia: Oh, and water.
[10:17 AM] Sefeia: But the pizza, in the freezer, was soggy.
[10:17 AM] Flamy: Ewwww
[10:18 AM] Flamy: Vimto... I take it you're a UK chap?
[10:18 AM] Sefeia: Yes.
[10:18 AM] Flamy: I see! Neato
[10:18 AM] Sefeia: Which is why I typed that you reminded me of how northerners (in England, that is) speak.
[10:19 AM] Flamy: Yeah, to an American like meself, it's a more Southern sorta thing, hah
[10:19 AM] Sefeia: But yes, I turned the temperature down and the pizza is frozen.
[10:20 AM] Flamy: I hope it'll still be decent when ya eat it later, sometimes stuff loses flavor when that happens
[10:20 AM] Sefeia: Truthfully, I sort of gave my first OC the twang as well.
[10:20 AM] Sefeia: Well, since both were soggy, I ate one of them straight away.,
[10:20 AM] Flamy: Ah, thank goodness
[10:21 AM] Flamy: Say, uh, you don't mind me recordin' all this, and showing it to the DP staff, right?(edited)
[10:21 AM] Flamy: So they know you've good intentions.
[10:21 AM] Sefeia: As long as you are not doing it ill-willingly.
[10:21 AM] Sefeia: Last thing I want is something shown in order to strengthen the other side and also to try and embarrass myself.
[10:22 AM] Flamy: As a hero, I support the truth, and nothing but that!