<Krenair> <macer1> I want to do a simple mod, and hmm, what is a best structure for MCP project on github? Any examples maybe?
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<macer1> Krenair: ?
<Krenair> Just share the src folder or something
<macer1> minecraft source code on github, jeb_ will be angry :P
<Krenair> Ignore the people who tell you shouldn't, as half of the MC devs do (see https://www.github.com/Bukkit/mc-dev)
<macer1> jeb_ logic: I'll release 1.2.5 update earlier, so they got more time to deobfuscate it. WHAT THE F****? </angry>
<Krenair> quietus, MCPBot is back
<IngisKahn> Krenair, do not tell people to violate our terms
<quietus> how do you use him correctly?
<Krenair> IngisKahn, then don't make stupid terms. :)
<Krenair> It's pretty simple.
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<IngisKahn> We were asked by Mojang to make them as such.
<Krenair> ?mcpbot | quietus
<crow> quietus: See http://mcp.ocean-labs.de/index.php/MCPBot for MCPBot command information.
<Krenair> IngisKahn, then Mojang are hypocrites and you should ignore them.
<TTSDA> macer1: I tried that, and I got "RetroGuard error: COM.rl.obf.classfile.ClassFileException: ClassNotFound BaseMod"
<IngisKahn> Don't be stupid.
<macer1> You need to patch the minecraft.jar with modloader first
<macer1> and then patch with the mod files
<Krenair> You think I'm the one being stupid?
<Krenair> Seriously?
<TTSDA> macer1: This mod doesn't require modloader :s
<IngisKahn> Absolutely.
<macer1> it does :s
<quietus> is there a way to only distribute the changes?
<macer1> basemod == modloader
<TTSDA> Weird, it works without it
<TTSDA> I'll try then
<Krenair> quietus, yes, but it's a pain in the ass
<Krenair> look at diff. That's how MCP does it
<TTSDA> That worked, thank you macer1
<macer1> :)
<Krenair> (and patch)
<TTSDA> macer1: 100 errors when recompiling
<macer1> yeah thats...normal
<macer1> kind of
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<TTSDA> :/
<TTSDA> I need to manually fix?
<lutzee> if its an old mod, pre 1.1
<macer1> are you trying the mod for other mc version?
<TTSDA> Nope
<lutzee> then a lot of the mods src won't work
<TTSDA> 1.2.5
<macer1> what mod exactly?
<lutzee> and what version is the mod?
<Krenair> IngisKahn: I find it hilarious that you think I'm stupid for ignoring your stupid rules.
<TTSDA> rei minimap
<lutzee> oh...
<lutzee> that may confuse you
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<lutzee> it's writen by a japanese guy
<TTSDA> Why would that make the code not compile?
<lutzee> why are you decompiling minimap anyway?
<TTSDA> I want to see how it works
<TTSDA> Try to add  some stuff
<macer1> ehh even bukkit guys are not allowed to use the original minecraft server code in bukkit -.-
<macer1> what the f***, jeb_
<lutzee> btw the recompile is just checking to see if ti recompiles fine the decompile should have worked and put the src in the src folder
<macer1> is there a javadoc for 1.2.3?
<macer1> I only see for 1.2.5 there
<TTSDA> Yeah, but I need it to compile, lutzee
<macer1> Only two methods and update done...
<TTSDA> So I can, you know, use it :P
<lutzee> TTDSA you can look at the code and find why it doesn't compile :p
<IngisKahn> Krenair, you are such a child.
<Krenair> What, you expect me to be something I'm not?
<IngisKahn> Just be decent enough to respect our rules.
<TTSDA> The decompiled code has stuff like "switch (_cls2..SwitchMap.reifnsk.minimap.EnumOptionValue[enumoptionvalue.ordinal()])"
<TTSDA> ..
<Krenair> Not if your rules are pointless.
<IngisKahn> They aren't pointless.
<lutzee> TTDSA its not like any other mod, it actually uses proper coding rather than just using bits of api
<Krenair> IngisKahn: Oh, so how are they not pointless?
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<IngisKahn> Are you that stupid?
<Krenair> There's absolutely no way you could possibly enforce it
<macer1> I am trying to update Water Shader to 1.2.5 is anyone interested to help me :D?
<Krenair> No but clearly you are
<macer1> 2 Errors only :D http://pastebin.com/WXHaYGyR
<IngisKahn> sigh
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<m4ge123> just because you cant enforce a rule doesnt mean its stupid
<TTSDA> :/ http://pastie.org/private/idr242h9zyb7jwofn4hq
<Krenair> m4ge123, They can't enforce the rule therefore it is 100% pointless.
<IngisKahn> Mojang has been nothing but helpful to us, but let's piss on them since Krenair thinks it's stupid.
<Krenair> Mojang nothing but helpful to us?
<macer1> Mojang what helpful?
<Krenair> Let's not forget why MCP pretty much exists.
<macer1> AYFKM?
<IngisKahn> You're not MCP, you have no clue.
<Krenair> No I definitely do have a clue
<IngisKahn> Krenair the all knowing
<Krenair> Mojang's obfuscation is the most obvious example of them definitely being the OPPOSITE of helpful
<macer1> I agree
<IngisKahn> If you want to see it that way, but you can't view that in isolation.
<Krenair> I don't have a choice but to see it that way.
<Krenair> Honestly I'd much rather they didn't obfuscate.
<IngisKahn> We all would.
<Krenair> So why are you under the illusion that 'Mojang has been nothing but helpful to us'?
<IngisKahn> us = MCP
<Krenair> MCP devs or the entire community?
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<IngisKahn> None of this even matters.  Our rules are our prerogative.  If you don't like them, you can discuss that.  But you can't tell people to violate them.
<Krenair> I can tell people what I want to, your pointless rules be damned.
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<IngisKahn> See that's not how irc works.
<IngisKahn> Respect the rules or leave the channel.
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<Krenair> Respect your pathetic rules? No, I think I'll leave.
<IngisKahn> /rage
<IngisKahn> Come back when you grow up.
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[15:55:10] <quietus> how do you force update a rename, i screwed up.
[15:55:19] <@IngisKahn> prepend with f
[15:55:37] <quietus> thanks
[15:55:54] <d1223m> that looked fun :S
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[15:57:54] <@IngisKahn> Krenair has always been a sociopathic child.  He's left in a huff a few times before, arguing from his pedestal of supreme self-importance.