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  1. MSPA Forums;http://www.mspaforums.com
  2. Private Message Dump for User MegaRock35; 02-14-2012 03:41 PM -->
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  5. Folder : Sent Items
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  7.  
  8. ================================================================================
  9. From : MegaRock35
  10. To : El Ninja Monkey
  11. Konkoa
  12. Liliumus
  13. Date : 2012-02-11 15:37
  14. Title : LP Homestuck: Gamma Session
  15. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  16. It appears that we're going to be the third group, once the one of the orthers are finished. But apparently, we may be getting riddles and titles already. I guess the first step is to share our info, yes?
  17.  
  18. [b]Your Role[/b]
  19. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=ardentApathy;6072300]These statements may be more true than you realize.
  20.  
  21. You're in![/QUOTE]
  22.  
  23. You have an acute awareness of your own Fate.
  24.  
  25. You are the Doom player.
  26.  
  27. You are also the Doomed player.
  28.  
  29. What this means is up to you to discover.[/QUOTE]
  30. My guess is that this is my personal quest, which I am expected to figure out on my own. However, I feel that poor communication kills, and that we should share our quests. Here is what I've been told thus far:
  31.  
  32. [b]An Opportunity[/b]
  33. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=ardentApathy;6072261]Your decision has been taken under consideration.
  34.  
  35. That means you're in.[/QUOTE]
  36.  
  37. You are now playing HIVEBENT.
  38.  
  39. What will you do?[/QUOTE]
  40. And so this is a beginning prompt. But I'd rather not take any action until we've all consulted with each other and had time to think. So I before I move on, I'll wait until everyone has briefed each other on their situations. Let the game commence!
  41.  
  42. EDIT: I've been given my first choice:
  43. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=ardentApathy;6072300]I have just given you the tools to defeat me.
  44.  
  45. I have also given you the tools to my own creation.[/QUOTE]
  46.  
  47. You can defeat me, right here and now, by answering this Riddle:
  48.  
  49. What is my Fate?[/QUOTE]
  50. I'll mull this over and see where I can go with this.
  51.  
  52. ================================================================================
  53. From : MegaRock35
  54. To : El Ninja Monkey
  55. Konkoa
  56. Liliumus
  57. Date : 2012-02-11 16:14
  58. Title : The Choice
  59. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  60. Okay, I've given it some more thought.
  61.  
  62. [QUOTE=ardentApathy]You are the Doom player.
  63.  
  64. You are also the [B]Doomed[/B] player.
  65. [/QUOTE]
  66. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=ardentApathy;6072300]I have just given you the tools to [B]defeat me.[/B]
  67.  
  68. I have also given you the tools to my own [B]creation[/B].[/QUOTE]
  69.  
  70. You can defeat me, right here and now, by answering this Riddle:
  71.  
  72. What is my Fate?[/QUOTE]
  73.  
  74. Here are my thoughts:
  75. 1. We have the ability to create him
  76. 2. We have the ability to defeat him
  77. 3. I, at least, am not (currently) a part of the Alpha Timeline
  78.  
  79. Therefore, it seems that aA is something that we shall create as part of our session, possibly the First Guardian. Seeing as how I'm doomed, it seems that I may do something to muck up the session. In this case, it seems that I was supposed to create, him but opted to defeat him by not creating him, therefore dooming the timeline. Your thoughts? Comments? Alternate interpretations?
  80.  
  81. ================================================================================
  82. From : MegaRock35
  83. To : Gecky
  84. Date : 2012-02-11 18:30
  85. Title : Blue Session
  86. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  87. It seems to that you've been entered into the Blue Session. First off, welcome!
  88.  
  89. Second, let me fill you in on what I've been told, and then told the rest of our teammates:
  90.  
  91. [spoiler][QUOTE=MegaRock35]Okay, I've given it some more thought.
  92.  
  93. [QUOTE=ardentApathy]You are the Doom player.
  94.  
  95. You are also the [B]Doomed[/B] player.
  96. [/QUOTE]
  97. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=ardentApathy;6072300]I have just given you the tools to [B]defeat me.[/B]
  98.  
  99. I have also given you the tools to my own [B]creation[/B].[/QUOTE]
  100.  
  101. You can defeat me, right here and now, by answering this Riddle:
  102.  
  103. What is my Fate?[/QUOTE]
  104.  
  105. Here are my thoughts:
  106. 1. We have the ability to create him
  107. 2. We have the ability to defeat him
  108. 3. I, at least, am not (currently) a part of the Alpha Timeline
  109.  
  110. Therefore, it seems that aA is something that we shall create as part of our session, possibly the First Guardian. Seeing as how I'm doomed, it seems that I may do something to muck up the session. In this case, it seems that I was supposed to create, him but opted to defeat him by not creating him, therefore dooming the timeline. Your thoughts? Comments? Alternate interpretations?[/QUOTE][/spoiler]
  111.  
  112. Basically, it seems that I may have to choose whether this is the Alpha timeline or not. Since I'd rather not do something drastic that would affect everyone without their input, what do you think I should do, and do you have any other interpretations?
  113.  
  114. Also, be sure to inform the rest of us when you receive your information. Have fun!
  115.  
  116. ================================================================================
  117. From : MegaRock35
  118. To : ardentApathy
  119. Date : 2012-02-11 18:51
  120. Title : Re: Your Choice
  121. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  122. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=ardentApathy;6072300]I have just given you the tools to defeat me.
  123.  
  124. I have also given you the tools to my own creation.[/QUOTE]
  125.  
  126. You can defeat me, right here and now, by answering this Riddle:
  127.  
  128. What is my Fate?[/QUOTE]
  129. You're fate is tied with mine. I am the Doomed player, the one who who caused your destruction by having never made you.
  130.  
  131. I reject that path. I refuse to doom my teammates along with myself. Your fate is to be created, and therefore, my friends live.
  132.  
  133. ================================================================================
  134. From : MegaRock35
  135. To : ardentApathy
  136. Date : 2012-02-11 19:03
  137. Title : Re: Your Choice
  138. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  139. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35]
  140. You're fate is tied with mine. I am the Doomed player, the one who who caused your destruction by having never made you.
  141.  
  142. I reject that path. I refuse to doom my teammates along with myself. Your fate is to be created, and therefore, my friends live.[/QUOTE]
  143.  
  144. Hm.
  145.  
  146. I can quite honestly say I was not expecting that.
  147.  
  148. Before I make my leave, however, I have one final Question:
  149.  
  150. Why did you choose this path?[/QUOTE]
  151. What kind of person chooses to fail before the game has even begun?
  152.  
  153. ================================================================================
  154. From : MegaRock35
  155. To : ardentApathy
  156. Date : 2012-02-11 19:27
  157. Title : Re: Your Choice
  158. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  159. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35]
  160. You're fate is tied with mine. I am the Doomed player, the one who who caused your destruction by having never made you.
  161.  
  162. I reject that path. I refuse to doom my teammates along with myself. Your fate is to be created, and therefore, my friends live.[/QUOTE]
  163.  
  164. Hm.
  165.  
  166. I can quite honestly say I was not expecting that.
  167.  
  168. Before I make my leave, however, I have one final Question:
  169.  
  170. Why did you choose this path?[/QUOTE]
  171. What kind of person chooses to fail before the game has even begun?[/QUOTE]
  172.  
  173. Someone who is resigned to their Fate.
  174.  
  175. Someone who embodies their Aspect.
  176.  
  177. Someone who is an excellent Host.
  178.  
  179. Or, to put it more succinctly:
  180.  
  181. [B][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]E.[/SIZE][/FONT][/B][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  182. But your death brings about your Master. That is hardly failing, wouldn't you say?
  183.  
  184. ================================================================================
  185. From : MegaRock35
  186. To : ardentApathy
  187. Date : 2012-02-11 19:47
  188. Title : Re: Your Choice
  189. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  190. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=7][B][COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]C[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]U[/COLOR]R[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]N[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR].
  191.  
  192. [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR]S [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R.
  193.  
  194. [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR] A[COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR] T[COLOR="#00FF00"]H[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R [COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E.
  195.  
  196. I AM A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT.
  197.  
  198. YOU CANNOT [COLOR="#00FF00"]HOPE[/COLOR] TO CONTRADICT ME.
  199.  
  200. What do you say to that?[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  201. Bring it on.
  202.  
  203. ================================================================================
  204. From : MegaRock35
  205. To : ardentApathy
  206. Date : 2012-02-11 19:49
  207. Title : Re: Your Choice
  208. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  209. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][SPOILER]CONGRATULATIONS!
  210.  
  211. YOU HAVE FINALLY REACHED GOD TIER!!!
  212.  
  213. :chummy:[/SPOILER][/QUOTE]
  214. [spoiler]I am thoroughly confused[/spoiler]
  215.  
  216. ================================================================================
  217. From : MegaRock35
  218. To : ardentApathy
  219. Date : 2012-02-11 20:02
  220. Title : Re: Your Choice
  221. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  222. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=7][B][COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]C[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]U[/COLOR]R[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]N[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR].
  223.  
  224. [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR]S [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R.
  225.  
  226. [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR] A[COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR] T[COLOR="#00FF00"]H[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R [COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E.
  227.  
  228. I AM A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT.
  229.  
  230. YOU CANNOT [COLOR="#00FF00"]HOPE[/COLOR] TO CONTRADICT ME.
  231.  
  232. What do you say to that?[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  233. Bring it on.[/QUOTE]
  234.  
  235. VERY WELL.
  236.  
  237. YOU HAVE ACCEPTED YOUR FATE.
  238.  
  239. BUT I AM STILL HERE.
  240.  
  241. NOTHING YOU DO CAN MAKE ME DISAPPEAR.
  242.  
  243. [B][SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"][FONT=Courier New]NOTHING.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  244. We can always try.
  245.  
  246. ================================================================================
  247. From : MegaRock35
  248. To : ardentApathy
  249. Date : 2012-02-11 20:19
  250. Title : Re: Your Choice
  251. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  252. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][B][CENTER][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"][QUOTE=?][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=7][B][COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]C[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]U[/COLOR]R[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]N[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR].
  253.  
  254. [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR]S [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R.
  255.  
  256. [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR] A[COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR] T[COLOR="#00FF00"]H[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R [COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E.
  257.  
  258. I AM A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT.
  259.  
  260. YOU CANNOT [COLOR="#00FF00"]HOPE[/COLOR] TO CONTRADICT ME.
  261.  
  262. What do you say to that?[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  263. Bring it on.[/QUOTE]
  264.  
  265. VERY WELL.
  266.  
  267. YOU HAVE ACCEPTED YOUR FATE.
  268.  
  269. BUT I AM STILL HERE.
  270.  
  271. NOTHING YOU DO CAN MAKE ME DISAPPEAR.
  272.  
  273. [B][SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"][FONT=Courier New]NOTHING.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  274. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][SPOILER]CONGRATULATIONS!
  275.  
  276. YOU HAVE FINALLY REACHED GOD TIER!!!
  277.  
  278. :chummy:[/SPOILER][/QUOTE]
  279. [spoiler]I am thoroughly confused[/spoiler][/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
  280.  
  281. CONGRATULATIONS!
  282.  
  283. YOU HAVE FINALLY REACHED GOD TIER!!!
  284.  
  285. :chummy:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER][/B][/QUOTE]
  286. What I'm getting from this
  287.  
  288. Is that I'm now LE? Shit, I knew there was a reason we never saw a Doom player God Tier.
  289.  
  290. ================================================================================
  291. From : MegaRock35
  292. To : Liliumus
  293. Date : 2012-02-11 20:41
  294. Title : Blue Session Reminder
  295. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  296. Not to be a bother, but if you've gotten the prompt from ardentApathy, and if you have the time, you should join us [url=http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/eTPKU4btgvX62]here[/url] to discuss it.
  297.  
  298. ================================================================================
  299. From : MegaRock35
  300. To : problemProtagonist
  301. Date : 2012-02-12 11:35
  302. Title : Re: Blue Session? :3
  303. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  304. [QUOTE=problemProtagonist]Are you guys from the Blue Session playing too?[/QUOTE]
  305. Yes, we've been playing. We've got a quicktopic [url=]here[/url] where we've been trying to figure this out. How has your session been going? And any ideas on who caused aA to "lose his composure"?
  306.  
  307. ================================================================================
  308. From : MegaRock35
  309. To : ardentApathy
  310. Date : 2012-02-12 11:50
  311. Title : Re: Your Choice
  312. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  313. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][spoiler][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][B][CENTER][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"][QUOTE=?][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=7][B][COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]C[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]U[/COLOR]R[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]N[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR].
  314.  
  315. [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR]S [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R.
  316.  
  317. [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR] A[COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR] T[COLOR="#00FF00"]H[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R [COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E.
  318.  
  319. I AM A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT.
  320.  
  321. YOU CANNOT [COLOR="#00FF00"]HOPE[/COLOR] TO CONTRADICT ME.
  322.  
  323. What do you say to that?[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  324. Bring it on.[/QUOTE]
  325.  
  326. VERY WELL.
  327.  
  328. YOU HAVE ACCEPTED YOUR FATE.
  329.  
  330. BUT I AM STILL HERE.
  331.  
  332. NOTHING YOU DO CAN MAKE ME DISAPPEAR.
  333.  
  334. [B][SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"][FONT=Courier New]NOTHING.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  335. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][SPOILER]CONGRATULATIONS!
  336.  
  337. YOU HAVE FINALLY REACHED GOD TIER!!!
  338.  
  339. :chummy:[/SPOILER][/QUOTE]
  340. [spoiler]I am thoroughly confused[/spoiler][/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
  341.  
  342. CONGRATULATIONS!
  343.  
  344. YOU HAVE FINALLY REACHED GOD TIER!!!
  345.  
  346. :chummy:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER][/B][/QUOTE]
  347. What I'm getting from this
  348.  
  349. Is that I'm now LE? Shit, I knew there was a reason we never saw a Doom player God Tier.[/QUOTE][/spoiler]
  350.  
  351. What? What is this nonsense?
  352.  
  353. I never wrote any of that.
  354.  
  355. Where did you get this?!
  356.  
  357. TELL ME!![/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  358. It seems that you are not as omniscient as you make yourself out to be.
  359.  
  360. ================================================================================
  361. From : MegaRock35
  362. To : problemProtagonist
  363. Date : 2012-02-12 12:00
  364. Title : Re: Blue Session? :3
  365. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  366. [QUOTE=problemProtagonist]Is aA playing with you, then? (By the way, the link to the quicktopic isn't working.)
  367.  
  368. Lose his composure, huh? I'd guess someone's done something right - I think our goal is to defeat aA, who seems to have a Doc Scratch/LE thing going on. Which would explain the end of his last post - "[...] But you still have yet to use it. And I am still here."
  369.  
  370. As for our session... I'd say we made some progress - all of us four already have Roles (I'm Mind, we also have Time, Blood - not sure how that happened, and our Leader is a Knight.) and we've been exchanging messages with him - we were supposed to advance to the next act (or something), but our response triggered "his creation" - yet another DS clue. Also, something I did led to the creation of Rule #5, and I'm still at a loss as to what that means.
  371.  
  372. He keeps on saying we've found many Answers. Any idea about that?
  373.  
  374. And how are you progressing thus far?[/QUOTE]
  375. Let me try the link again: [url]http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/eTPKU4btgvX62[/url]
  376.  
  377. As for our progress, so far we have discovered that I'm a Doom Player, but I'm also a Doomed player. I hold the tools to his creation and destruction, but I chose to create him, for that would've just Doomed us all otherwise.
  378.  
  379. We have a Time player, who is stated to be the instrument to his creation/destruction, a Heart Player who is drawn to Blood (your player, perhaps?) that is awake on Derse, and two who were told to choose their role (one chose Time before we had heard from the time player, and one who decided to give aA the run-around by only alluding to choosing Void).
  380.  
  381. In the process, our Heart player was asked which act he was on, our (aA assigned-)Time player was given the riddle, "What is HIVEBENT?", and I manged to get the tiger somehow, while simultaneously pissing off Scratch. Whoops.
  382.  
  383. ================================================================================
  384. From : MegaRock35
  385. To : problemProtagonist
  386. Date : 2012-02-12 12:09
  387. Title : Re: Blue Session? :3
  388. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  389. [QUOTE=problemProtagonist]Is aA playing with you, then? (By the way, the link to the quicktopic isn't working.)
  390.  
  391. Lose his composure, huh? I'd guess someone's done something right - I think our goal is to defeat aA, who seems to have a Doc Scratch/LE thing going on. Which would explain the end of his last post - "[...] But you still have yet to use it. And I am still here."
  392.  
  393. As for our session... I'd say we made some progress - all of us four already have Roles (I'm Mind, we also have Time, Blood - not sure how that happened, and our Leader is a Knight.) and we've been exchanging messages with him - we were supposed to advance to the next act (or something), but our response triggered "his creation" - yet another DS clue. Also, something I did led to the creation of Rule #5, and I'm still at a loss as to what that means.
  394.  
  395. He keeps on saying we've found many Answers. Any idea about that?
  396.  
  397. And how are you progressing thus far?[/QUOTE]
  398. Whoops, forgot to answer the question; No, aA has yet to play with us in any role other than as DC/LE. I still don't understand why he's listed under our team.
  399.  
  400. ================================================================================
  401. From : MegaRock35
  402. To : ardentApathy
  403. Date : 2012-02-12 12:11
  404. Title : Re: Your Choice
  405. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  406. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][spoiler][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=7][B][COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]C[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]U[/COLOR]R[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]N[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR].
  407.  
  408. [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR]S [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R.
  409.  
  410. [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR] A[COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR] T[COLOR="#00FF00"]H[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R [COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E.
  411.  
  412. I AM A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT.
  413.  
  414. YOU CANNOT [COLOR="#00FF00"]HOPE[/COLOR] TO CONTRADICT ME.
  415.  
  416. What do you say to that?[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  417. Bring it on.[/QUOTE]
  418.  
  419. VERY WELL.
  420.  
  421. YOU HAVE ACCEPTED YOUR FATE.
  422.  
  423. BUT I AM STILL HERE.
  424.  
  425. NOTHING YOU DO CAN MAKE ME DISAPPEAR.
  426.  
  427. [B][SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"][FONT=Courier New]NOTHING.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  428. We can always try.[/QUOTE][/spoiler]
  429.  
  430. Very well.
  431.  
  432. Try.[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  433. If nothing can defeat you, then perhaps that is exactly what we must do.
  434.  
  435. ================================================================================
  436. From : MegaRock35
  437. To : problemProtagonist
  438. Date : 2012-02-12 12:34
  439. Title : Re: Blue Session? :3
  440. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  441. [QUOTE=problemProtagonist]Whoa. I'm checking out the Quicktopic thing, and... wow. I also somehow got the tiger, or at least that's what aA said in the thread. He hasn't PMed me or anything.
  442.  
  443. Aaand we suspect there is a traitor in our lines. Dunno how that will unfold.
  444.  
  445. We also have a forum: [url]http://riddlerumpus.forumsland.com/riddlerumpus.html[/url] You might want to register and see what we've been to. I'll keep you updated![/QUOTE]
  446. Thank you! I will try to keep you updated on our progress, as well. However, if there is a possible traitor in your midst, should I hold off on sharing the quicktopic there? Perhaps we should be careful about and what info we should make public...
  447.  
  448. ================================================================================
  449. From : MegaRock35
  450. To : ardentApathy
  451. Date : 2012-02-12 12:48
  452. Title : Re: Your Choice
  453. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  454. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][spoiler][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=7][B][COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]C[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]U[/COLOR]R[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]N[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR].
  455.  
  456. [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR]S [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R.
  457.  
  458. [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR] A[COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR] T[COLOR="#00FF00"]H[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R [COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E.
  459.  
  460. I AM A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT.
  461.  
  462. YOU CANNOT [COLOR="#00FF00"]HOPE[/COLOR] TO CONTRADICT ME.
  463.  
  464. What do you say to that?[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  465. Bring it on.[/QUOTE]
  466.  
  467. VERY WELL.
  468.  
  469. YOU HAVE ACCEPTED YOUR FATE.
  470.  
  471. BUT I AM STILL HERE.
  472.  
  473. NOTHING YOU DO CAN MAKE ME DISAPPEAR.
  474.  
  475. [B][SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"][FONT=Courier New]NOTHING.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  476. We can always try.[/QUOTE][/spoiler]
  477.  
  478. Very well.
  479.  
  480. Try.[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  481. If nothing can defeat you, then perhaps that is exactly what we must do.[/QUOTE]
  482.  
  483. Hm?
  484.  
  485. Ah, I see. You seem to think that hiding from the Problem will make it go away.
  486.  
  487. It will take far, far more than that to beat me.
  488.  
  489. Far more than you or I could possibly count.[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  490. Very well. We shall confront the problem.
  491.  
  492. But first, a question: What is my Title?
  493.  
  494. ================================================================================
  495. From : MegaRock35
  496. To : ardentApathy
  497. Date : 2012-02-12 13:25
  498. Title : Re: Your Choice
  499. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  500. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][spoiler][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=7][B][COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]C[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]U[/COLOR]R[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]N[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR].
  501.  
  502. [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR]S [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R.
  503.  
  504. [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR] A[COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR] T[COLOR="#00FF00"]H[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R [COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E.
  505.  
  506. I AM A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT.
  507.  
  508. YOU CANNOT [COLOR="#00FF00"]HOPE[/COLOR] TO CONTRADICT ME.
  509.  
  510. What do you say to that?[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  511. Bring it on.[/QUOTE]
  512.  
  513. VERY WELL.
  514.  
  515. YOU HAVE ACCEPTED YOUR FATE.
  516.  
  517. BUT I AM STILL HERE.
  518.  
  519. NOTHING YOU DO CAN MAKE ME DISAPPEAR.
  520.  
  521. [B][SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"][FONT=Courier New]NOTHING.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  522. We can always try.[/QUOTE][/spoiler]
  523.  
  524. Very well.
  525.  
  526. Try.[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  527. If nothing can defeat you, then perhaps that is exactly what we must do.[/QUOTE]
  528.  
  529. Hm?
  530.  
  531. Ah, I see. You seem to think that hiding from the Problem will make it go away.
  532.  
  533. It will take far, far more than that to beat me.
  534.  
  535. Far more than you or I could possibly count.[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  536. Very well. We shall confront the problem.
  537.  
  538. But first, a question: What is my Title?[/QUOTE]
  539.  
  540. Why are you asking me something you already know?
  541.  
  542. You are the Knight of Doom, of course.[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  543. I figured as much, but I can't run around basing everything off assumptions, can I?
  544.  
  545. Speaking of answers, what's up with The Wildcards? Could they be sowing your seeds of Discord?
  546.  
  547. ================================================================================
  548. From : MegaRock35
  549. To : problemProtagonist
  550. Date : 2012-02-12 13:32
  551. Title : Re: Blue Session? :3
  552. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  553. [QUOTE=problemProtagonist]My teammates think that Legendary might be a traitor, so he's the one to be wary of. I've told Godbot about the Quicktopic. I also asked aA (as the Player of Mind) about Legendary, but he didn't give me a straightforward answer. Surprisingly. xD[/QUOTE]
  554. Hmm, Legendary requires further investigation... Perhaps I should attempt to make contact? Pose as a possible traitor to my team and everyone else? After all, a Knight of Doom would weaponize his aspect, and I COULD convince him as much by pointing out I haven't actually posted anything directly from my session's discussion on the Beta Forum. What do you think?
  555.  
  556. ================================================================================
  557. From : MegaRock35
  558. To : ardentApathy
  559. Date : 2012-02-12 13:34
  560. Title : Re: Your Choice
  561. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  562. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][spoiler][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][B][CENTER][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"][QUOTE=?][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=7][B][COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]C[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]U[/COLOR]R[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]N[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR].
  563.  
  564. [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR]S [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R.
  565.  
  566. [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR] A[COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR] T[COLOR="#00FF00"]H[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R [COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E.
  567.  
  568. I AM A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT.
  569.  
  570. YOU CANNOT [COLOR="#00FF00"]HOPE[/COLOR] TO CONTRADICT ME.
  571.  
  572. What do you say to that?[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  573. Bring it on.[/QUOTE]
  574.  
  575. VERY WELL.
  576.  
  577. YOU HAVE ACCEPTED YOUR FATE.
  578.  
  579. BUT I AM STILL HERE.
  580.  
  581. NOTHING YOU DO CAN MAKE ME DISAPPEAR.
  582.  
  583. [B][SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"][FONT=Courier New]NOTHING.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  584. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][SPOILER]CONGRATULATIONS!
  585.  
  586. YOU HAVE FINALLY REACHED GOD TIER!!!
  587.  
  588. :chummy:[/SPOILER][/QUOTE]
  589. [spoiler]I am thoroughly confused[/spoiler][/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
  590.  
  591. CONGRATULATIONS!
  592.  
  593. YOU HAVE FINALLY REACHED GOD TIER!!!
  594.  
  595. :chummy:[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER][/B][/QUOTE]
  596. What I'm getting from this
  597.  
  598. Is that I'm now LE? Shit, I knew there was a reason we never saw a Doom player God Tier.[/QUOTE][/spoiler]
  599.  
  600. What? What is this nonsense?
  601.  
  602. I never wrote any of that.
  603.  
  604. Where did you get this?!
  605.  
  606. TELL ME!![/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  607. It seems that you are not as omniscient as you make yourself out to be.[/QUOTE]
  608.  
  609. I... but I...
  610.  
  611. ...
  612.  
  613. No.
  614.  
  615. I will not allow this to shake my composure further.
  616.  
  617. I am beginning to tire of our game.
  618.  
  619. Do you have an Answer yet, or don't you?[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  620. I have many Answers. But they shall come in due time. For now, let me confer with my teammates.
  621.  
  622. ================================================================================
  623. From : MegaRock35
  624. To : ardentApathy
  625. Date : 2012-02-12 13:50
  626. Title : Re: Your Choice
  627. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  628. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][spoiler][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][FONT=Courier New][SIZE=7][B][COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]C[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]U[/COLOR]R[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]N[/COLOR]O[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR].
  629.  
  630. [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR]S [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R.
  631.  
  632. [COLOR="#00FF00"]I[/COLOR] A[COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR] T[COLOR="#00FF00"]H[/COLOR]E [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]S[/COLOR]T[COLOR="#00FF00"]E[/COLOR]R [COLOR="#00FF00"]O[/COLOR]F [COLOR="#00FF00"]M[/COLOR]Y [COLOR="#00FF00"]F[/COLOR]A[COLOR="#00FF00"]T[/COLOR]E.
  633.  
  634. I AM A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT.
  635.  
  636. YOU CANNOT [COLOR="#00FF00"]HOPE[/COLOR] TO CONTRADICT ME.
  637.  
  638. What do you say to that?[/B][/SIZE][/FONT][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  639. Bring it on.[/QUOTE]
  640.  
  641. VERY WELL.
  642.  
  643. YOU HAVE ACCEPTED YOUR FATE.
  644.  
  645. BUT I AM STILL HERE.
  646.  
  647. NOTHING YOU DO CAN MAKE ME DISAPPEAR.
  648.  
  649. [B][SIZE=7][COLOR="#00FF00"][FONT=Courier New]NOTHING.[/FONT][/COLOR][/SIZE][/B][/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  650. We can always try.[/QUOTE][/spoiler]
  651.  
  652. Very well.
  653.  
  654. Try.[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  655. If nothing can defeat you, then perhaps that is exactly what we must do.[/QUOTE]
  656.  
  657. Hm?
  658.  
  659. Ah, I see. You seem to think that hiding from the Problem will make it go away.
  660.  
  661. It will take far, far more than that to beat me.
  662.  
  663. Far more than you or I could possibly count.[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  664. Very well. We shall confront the problem.
  665.  
  666. But first, a question: What is my Title?[/QUOTE]
  667.  
  668. Why are you asking me something you already know?
  669.  
  670. You are the Knight of Doom, of course.[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  671. I figured as much, but I can't run around basing everything off assumptions, can I?
  672.  
  673. Speaking of answers, what's up with The Wildcards? Could they be sowing your seeds of Discord?[/QUOTE]
  674.  
  675. That is certainly one way of putting it.
  676.  
  677. Another way is that they sowed my seed, and I in turn am sowing all the Discord.[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  678. I see. What of the other sessions? What can you tell me about them?
  679.  
  680. ================================================================================
  681. From : MegaRock35
  682. To : ardentApathy
  683. Date : 2012-02-12 14:11
  684. Title : Re: Your Choice
  685. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  686. [quote=ardentApathy]What is HIVEBENT?[/quote]
  687.  
  688. [QUOTE=ardentApathy;6070444][B]Q:[/B] What is this?
  689. [B]A:[/B] This is a riddle. It is also the Riddle.
  690. [/QUOTE]
  691.  
  692. [quote=Andrew Hussie]"The thing is, Homestuck is both a story and a puzzle, by design and by definition. If asked to define it, “a story that’s also a puzzle” is as close to true as any answer I’d give."[/quote]
  693.  
  694. HIVEBENT is all of these. It is also Truth. It is also Hope.
  695.  
  696. ================================================================================
  697. From : MegaRock35
  698. To : Legendary
  699. Date : 2012-02-12 14:23
  700. Title : A Proposition
  701. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  702. You are a Wildcard, yes? Yet you play for the Beta session. Don't tell me you think that the identity of the The Betrayer isn't obvious.
  703.  
  704. But it's okay. For you see, there is more to this matter than would appear. I have been pulling the strings of my team, and I have toyed with Scratch, as well. I have already solved the Riddle. But there's still work to do. There is little left that any of the teams can offer me. But you, on the other hand, are a whole other matter.
  705.  
  706. You have insider information. Together, we can play everyone. We can steal the glory. We can have everyone play right into our hands. What do you say?
  707.  
  708. ================================================================================
  709. From : MegaRock35
  710. To : problemProtagonist
  711. Date : 2012-02-12 14:26
  712. Title : Re: Blue Session? :3
  713. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  714. [QUOTE=problemProtagonist]Godbot agreed that you should try and find out something about Legendary's TREACHERY (or lack thereof). Just be careful and keep us updated![/QUOTE]
  715. Alright, just sent a message. I'll post a transcript of the conversation as he replies.
  716.  
  717. ================================================================================
  718. From : MegaRock35
  719. To : ardentApathy
  720. Date : 2012-02-12 14:48
  721. Title : Re: Your Choice
  722. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  723. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35][quote=ardentApathy]What is HIVEBENT?[/quote]
  724.  
  725. [QUOTE=ardentApathy;6070444][B]Q:[/B] What is this?
  726. [B]A:[/B] This is a riddle. It is also the Riddle.
  727. [/QUOTE]
  728.  
  729. [quote=Andrew Hussie]"The thing is, Homestuck is both a story and a puzzle, by design and by definition. If asked to define it, “a story that’s also a puzzle” is as close to true as any answer I’d give."[/quote]
  730.  
  731. HIVEBENT is all of these. It is also Truth. It is also Hope.[/QUOTE]
  732.  
  733. Congratulations.
  734.  
  735. You have solved the Riddle.
  736.  
  737. But you still have yet to solve the RIDDLE.
  738.  
  739. But I'm sure you'll keep trying. That's what you do, isn't it?
  740.  
  741. (heehee)[/QUOTE]
  742. What kind of game would this be if I wasn't given the RIDDLE to solve?
  743.  
  744. ================================================================================
  745. From : MegaRock35
  746. To : ardentApathy
  747. Date : 2012-02-12 14:52
  748. Title : Re: An Opportunity
  749. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  750. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=ardentApathy;6072261]Your decision has been taken under consideration.
  751.  
  752. That means you're in.[/QUOTE]
  753.  
  754. You are now playing HIVEBENT.
  755.  
  756. What will you do?[/QUOTE]
  757. >Proceed to First Gate
  758.  
  759. ================================================================================
  760. From : MegaRock35
  761. To : Godbot
  762. problemProtagonist
  763. Date : 2012-02-12 14:56
  764. Title : Correspondence with a Traitor
  765. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  766. I'll keep this restricted PM. On the chance that Legendary asks about the Blue Session board, then I can tell him I've kept you in the dark and then post there that he's clean.
  767.  
  768.  
  769. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]You are a Wildcard, yes? Yet you play for the Beta session. Don't tell me you think that the identity of the The Betrayer isn't obvious.
  770.  
  771. But it's okay. For you see, there is more to this matter than would appear. I have been pulling the strings of my team, and I have toyed with Scratch, as well. I have already solved the Riddle. But there's still work to do. There is little left that any of the teams can offer me. But you, on the other hand, are a whole other matter.
  772.  
  773. You have insider information. Together, we can play everyone. We can steal the glory. We can have everyone play right into our hands. What do you say?[/QUOTE]
  774.  
  775.  
  776. [QUOTE=Legendary][QUOTE=MegaRock35]I have already solved the Riddle.[/QUOTE]
  777.  
  778. So what's the answer?[/QUOTE]
  779. I figure I should tell him I don't yet trust him. Yes? No?
  780.  
  781. ================================================================================
  782. From : MegaRock35
  783. To : Legendary
  784. Date : 2012-02-12 15:01
  785. Title : Re: A Proposition
  786. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  787. [QUOTE=Legendary][QUOTE=MegaRock35]I have already solved the Riddle.[/QUOTE]
  788.  
  789. So what's the answer?[/QUOTE]
  790. I know you're eager to have a Knight of Doom on your hands, but I don't trust you. Not yet. How do I know you don't just plan to run back and tell the others?
  791.  
  792. ================================================================================
  793. From : MegaRock35
  794. To : Godbot
  795. problemProtagonist
  796. Date : 2012-02-12 15:15
  797. Title : Re: Correspondence with a Traitor
  798. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  799. [QUOTE=Legendary][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=Legendary][QUOTE=MegaRock35]I have already solved the Riddle.[/QUOTE]
  800.  
  801. So what's the answer?[/QUOTE]
  802. I know you're eager to have a Knight of Doom on your hands, but I don't trust you. Not yet. How do I know you don't just plan to run back and tell the others?[/QUOTE]
  803.  
  804. 8ecause that would 8e 8oriiiiiiiing?[/QUOTE]
  805. Welp
  806.  
  807. ================================================================================
  808. From : MegaRock35
  809. To : Godbot
  810. problemProtagonist
  811. Date : 2012-02-12 15:27
  812. Title : Re: Correspondence with a Traitor
  813. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  814. [QUOTE=problemProtagonist]Welp indeed. Legendary = traitor confirmed? Or is he just toying with us?[/QUOTE]
  815. Keep in mind that there's probably more than one traitor. Legend didn't know about the Blue Session quicktopic, but the Betrayer did.
  816.  
  817. ================================================================================
  818. From : MegaRock35
  819. To : Legendary
  820. Date : 2012-02-12 15:29
  821. Title : Re: A Proposition
  822. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  823. [QUOTE=Legendary][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=Legendary][QUOTE=MegaRock35]I have already solved the Riddle.[/QUOTE]
  824.  
  825. So what's the answer?[/QUOTE]
  826. I know you're eager to have a Knight of Doom on your hands, but I don't trust you. Not yet. How do I know you don't just plan to run back and tell the others?[/QUOTE]
  827.  
  828. 8ecause that would 8e 8oriiiiiiiing?[/QUOTE]
  829. Point taken. But to be safe, how about a snippet of a conversation between you and aA? Something only the Betrayer knows?
  830.  
  831. ================================================================================
  832. From : MegaRock35
  833. To : Godbot
  834. problemProtagonist
  835. Date : 2012-02-12 15:30
  836. Title : Re: Correspondence with a Traitor
  837. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  838. [QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=problemProtagonist]Welp indeed. Legendary = traitor confirmed? Or is he just toying with us?[/QUOTE]
  839. Keep in mind that there's probably more than one traitor. Legend didn't know about the Blue Session quicktopic, but the Betrayer did.[/QUOTE]
  840. Keep in mind that this might mean that Legend knows about the plan to trick him.
  841.  
  842. But then again, knowing aA, he's not going to make it that easy for his subordinates, either.
  843.  
  844. Any thoughts on who the Betrayer could be?[/QUOTE]
  845. Copypasta:
  846. [quote=Me]1. Godbot. He's been helpful, but he's got info from all three sessions. He knows the most.
  847. 2. problemProtagonist. She's the one who first initiated contact between the Beta and the Blue Sessions.
  848. 3. Konkoa. He's the one I know the least about, though it's possible that he's just not very far.
  849. 4. El Ninja Monkey. He's the one I know second least about, though he DOES have a day job to worry about.
  850. 5. Me. I don't suspect myself, obviously, but that doesn't mean YOU shouldn't. [/quote]
  851.  
  852. ================================================================================
  853. From : MegaRock35
  854. To : Godbot
  855. problemProtagonist
  856. Date : 2012-02-12 15:46
  857. Title : Re: Correspondence with a Traitor
  858. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  859. [QUOTE=Godbot]Well, that's a healthy sense of distrust. Keep in mind that pP, Ranter and I alerted you to the presence of a traitor, though.
  860.  
  861. Anyway, try and find out more about Konkoa and El Ninja Monkey would be my advice.[/QUOTE]
  862. Yes, I am aware. But there's also the fact that that would ease distrust of you three. At this point, we're all in it, and as such, I won't hide anything from you two. If a traitor wants to drag my team down, I must go down with them.
  863.  
  864.  
  865. [spoiler][QUOTE=Legendary][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=Legendary][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=Legendary][QUOTE=ardentApathy]Yes, one might, if one were so inclined.[/QUOTE]
  866.  
  867. I'm suddenly afraid I'm being played. Let me rephrase that:
  868.  
  869. If one were to describe it as Ultimate, would they be correct in doing so?[/QUOTE]
  870.  
  871. It depends.
  872.  
  873. What would they mean by that?[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  874.  
  875. It is the riddle of which all other riddles relevant to this game of Homestuck are relevant.
  876. It is the riddle by which answering correctly ends the game.[/QUOTE]
  877.  
  878. I'm suddenly afraid I am being played.
  879.  
  880. Such fear does not become an Excellent Host such as myself.
  881.  
  882. But I still don't see how this could possibly be important to solving the RIDDLE.[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  883.  
  884. [SPOILER]CONGRATULATIONS!
  885.  
  886. YOU HAVE FINALLY REACHED GOD TIER!!!
  887.  
  888. :chummy:[/SPOILER][/QUOTE][/QUOTE][/spoiler]
  889.  
  890. ================================================================================
  891. From : MegaRock35
  892. To : ardentApathy
  893. Date : 2012-02-12 15:49
  894. Title : Q & A
  895. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  896. It should be of no surprise to you that tension is high, and everyone is a suspect. As such, I have taken it upon myself to figure out who I can trust.
  897.  
  898. Will you tell me who the Betrayer is? (I suspect the answer is, "No," or a non-answer, but it should be asked anyway)
  899.  
  900. What can you tell me about El Ninja Monkey? What is his Role? What is his Progress?
  901.  
  902. Same for Konkoa, problemProtagonist, and Godbot.
  903.  
  904. How many traitors are there?
  905.  
  906. ================================================================================
  907. From : MegaRock35
  908. To : Godbot
  909. problemProtagonist
  910. Date : 2012-02-12 15:59
  911. Title : Re: Correspondence with a Traitor
  912. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  913. [QUOTE=problemProtagonist]What's the conversation between Legend and aA? "Yes, one might, if one were so inclined." One might what?[/QUOTE]
  914. No clue. I asked him to tell me something only the traitor would know. He's being obtuse. I'm getting nowhere fast. Should I tell him my answer to the Riddle and then demand that he tells me everything he knows?
  915.  
  916. ================================================================================
  917. From : MegaRock35
  918. To : Legendary
  919. Date : 2012-02-12 16:12
  920. Title : Re: A Proposition
  921. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  922. That proves nothing, but aA has assured me that there is only one traitor. At the risk of royally fucking up, I must say that I never planned to join you, and that this was just an investigation as to whether you were the Betrayer or not.
  923.  
  924. I think I know who the Traitor is, though.
  925.  
  926. ================================================================================
  927. From : MegaRock35
  928. To : Godbot
  929. Legendary
  930. Liliumus
  931. problemProtagonist
  932. Ranter
  933. Date : 2012-02-12 16:33
  934. Title : The Betrayer
  935. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  936. I can narrow it down to three people. None of you are him. aA has stated that there's only one traitor, and that Traitor is not very active. We know that the Traitor was the one who told aA about the Blue Session memo.
  937.  
  938. Based on this, we can conclude that:
  939. A.) Everyone who was not linked to the Blue Session discussion is out. That would be the entirety of Alpha Session, Ranter, and Legendary.
  940. B.) Everyone who was active is clear. That rules out problemProtagonist, Godbot, Liliumus, and myself.
  941. C.) The Betrayer is either Gecky, El Ninja Monkey, or Konkoa. I, personally suspect the latter.
  942.  
  943. In addition, here is what aA has told me thus far:
  944. [spoiler][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35]It should be of no surprise to you that tension is high, and everyone is a suspect. As such, I have taken it upon myself to figure out who I can trust.
  945.  
  946. Will you tell me who the Betrayer is? (I suspect the answer is, "No," or a non-answer, but it should be asked anyway)
  947.  
  948. What can you tell me about El Ninja Monkey? What is his Role? What is his Progress?
  949.  
  950. Same for Konkoa, problemProtagonist, and Godbot.
  951.  
  952. How many traitors are there?[/QUOTE]
  953.  
  954. There are no traitors, as far as I'm aware. And there is but one Betrayer. He is one of the players you just named.
  955.  
  956. El Ninja Monkey's Role is uncertain at the moment. However, his decisions have pushed him in a particular direction.
  957.  
  958. I feel I must mention that he made many attempts to change his initial decision. But we all must live with the consequences of our actions. [COLOR="#FFFFFF"](heehee)[/COLOR]
  959.  
  960. Konkoa's Role is similarly uncertain. I will say this much: he is a follower. I have tried to push him in the right direction, and I Hope he succeeds.
  961.  
  962. problemProtagonist's Role is the Thief of Mind. She is most adept at plucking the correct answers from the inner reaches of my own Mind. So adept, in fact, that she was the first to reach God Tier.
  963.  
  964. Godbot is the Knight, but his Aspect is as yet uncertain. Again, I have pushed him in a particular direction, but as always, his decisions are his own.
  965.  
  966. I Hope this has been helpful for you. It certainly was for me.[/QUOTE][/spoiler]
  967.  
  968. I understand if any of you don't exactly find aA trustworthy, but at this moment, he's the one with all the cards. If he plays with them face-up, who are we to turn a blind eye?
  969.  
  970. If any of you don't feel comfortable sharing info with the rest of us, just say so. But I think I know who I can trust, and no one can do this alone. Until we've figured this out, I'd say it's best not to communicate through anything other than PMs.
  971.  
  972. Well then, let Round 2 begin.
  973.  
  974. ================================================================================
  975. From : MegaRock35
  976. To : problemProtagonist
  977. Date : 2012-02-12 16:35
  978. Title : Re: Correspondence with a Traitor
  979. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  980. [QUOTE=problemProtagonist]According to AA, there is a single traitor, it's a 'he' and he's not been very active. He's true to his role, which is up to him to decide. So it's practically either El Ninja Monkey or Konkoa.[/QUOTE]
  981. Yeah, just sent a PM to everybody that can be ruled out by that. Well, except Alpha Team.
  982.  
  983. ================================================================================
  984. From : MegaRock35
  985. To : problemProtagonist
  986. Date : 2012-02-12 17:04
  987. Title : Re: The Betrayer
  988. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  989. [QUOTE=problemProtagonist]I already expressed my opinion on the matter, but I must say that the thing about me makes me rather proud. /shot[/QUOTE]
  990. That's okay! You've been a great help, and you're anything but inactive.
  991.  
  992. When everyone has had a chance to respond, we can start brainstorming about the answer to the RIDDLE. And maybe have someone setup an IRC room with a specific name (like #41361210251111 or something), so we don't have to clog our inboxes.
  993.  
  994. ================================================================================
  995. From : MegaRock35
  996. To : Liliumus
  997. Date : 2012-02-12 17:07
  998. Title : Re: The Betrayer
  999. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1000. [QUOTE=Liliumus]I have an idea: why not make a faux topic? The idea would be to only let the link known to the ones we suspect. If aA finds out about it, we know for sure it's one of them. Then we have to create a topic for each of them and then, well, you get the idea.[/QUOTE]
  1001. That's a good idea. Once we know who's all in, we can set it up. While doing so, we're going to also have to try to figure out the RIDDLE, because the Betrayer is probably just trying to distract us.
  1002.  
  1003. ================================================================================
  1004. From : MegaRock35
  1005. To : ardentApathy
  1006. Date : 2012-02-12 17:10
  1007. Title : Re: An Opportunity
  1008. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1009. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=ardentApathy;6072261]Your decision has been taken under consideration.
  1010.  
  1011. That means you're in.[/QUOTE]
  1012.  
  1013. You are now playing HIVEBENT.
  1014.  
  1015. What will you do?[/QUOTE]
  1016. >Proceed to First Gate[/QUOTE]
  1017.  
  1018. You stand before the First Gate.
  1019.  
  1020. You stand before the precipice.
  1021.  
  1022. What you decide here will decide your entire future.
  1023.  
  1024. What will you do?[/QUOTE]
  1025. >Examine Gate
  1026.  
  1027. ================================================================================
  1028. From : MegaRock35
  1029. To : ardentApathy
  1030. Date : 2012-02-12 17:11
  1031. Title : Re: Q & A
  1032. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1033. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35]It should be of no surprise to you that tension is high, and everyone is a suspect. As such, I have taken it upon myself to figure out who I can trust.
  1034.  
  1035. Will you tell me who the Betrayer is? (I suspect the answer is, "No," or a non-answer, but it should be asked anyway)
  1036.  
  1037. What can you tell me about El Ninja Monkey? What is his Role? What is his Progress?
  1038.  
  1039. Same for Konkoa, problemProtagonist, and Godbot.
  1040.  
  1041. How many traitors are there?[/QUOTE]
  1042.  
  1043. There are no traitors, as far as I'm aware. And there is but one Betrayer. He is one of the players you just named.
  1044.  
  1045. El Ninja Monkey's Role is uncertain at the moment. However, his decisions have pushed him in a particular direction.
  1046.  
  1047. I feel I must mention that he made many attempts to change his initial decision. But we all must live with the consequences of our actions. [COLOR="#FFFFFF"](heehee)[/COLOR]
  1048.  
  1049. Konkoa's Role is similarly uncertain. I will say this much: he is a follower. I have tried to push him in the right direction, and I Hope he succeeds.
  1050.  
  1051. problemProtagonist's Role is the Thief of Mind. She is most adept at plucking the correct answers from the inner reaches of my own Mind. So adept, in fact, that she was the first to reach God Tier.
  1052.  
  1053. Godbot is the Knight, but his Aspect is as yet uncertain. Again, I have pushed him in a particular direction, but as always, his decisions are his own.
  1054.  
  1055. I Hope this has been helpful for you. It certainly was for me.[/QUOTE]
  1056. Thank you. It most certainly helped me decide who to trust.
  1057.  
  1058. But tell me, why have you employed the Betrayer?
  1059.  
  1060. ================================================================================
  1061. From : MegaRock35
  1062. To : El Ninja Monkey
  1063. Date : 2012-02-12 17:25
  1064. Title : Hey
  1065. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1066. What are you doing? aA warned us that you're really close to invalidating all the sessions. All of them.
  1067.  
  1068. ================================================================================
  1069. From : MegaRock35
  1070. To : ardentApathy
  1071. Date : 2012-02-12 17:27
  1072. Title : Re: An Opportunity
  1073. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1074. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=ardentApathy;6072261]Your decision has been taken under consideration.
  1075.  
  1076. That means you're in.[/QUOTE]
  1077.  
  1078. You are now playing HIVEBENT.
  1079.  
  1080. What will you do?[/QUOTE]
  1081. >Proceed to First Gate[/QUOTE]
  1082.  
  1083. You stand before the First Gate.
  1084.  
  1085. You stand before the precipice.
  1086.  
  1087. What you decide here will decide your entire future.
  1088.  
  1089. What will you do?[/QUOTE]
  1090. >Examine Gate[/QUOTE]
  1091.  
  1092. Looking into the gate, you can see your entire life stretched before you. All the successes, all the mistakes. All the highs, all the lows. Everyone you've ever known or loved. Every single event in your own personal timeline, laid out before you in a single row.
  1093.  
  1094. You think you can reach through the Gate without actually going through.
  1095.  
  1096. Do you want to try?[/QUOTE]
  1097. >Yes
  1098.  
  1099. ================================================================================
  1100. From : MegaRock35
  1101. To : Godbot
  1102. Date : 2012-02-12 19:15
  1103. Title : Re: Just a quick note
  1104. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1105. [QUOTE=Godbot]Hey, you're awake.
  1106.  
  1107. [url]http://pastebin.com/U16ddHry[/url]
  1108.  
  1109. Don't tell anyone about this for now. pP knows too, but that's all so far, and Monkey doesn't know anyone else knows.
  1110.  
  1111. I'm going to try and figure out what's endangering our sessions, and then I'm going to reveal the Betrayer's plan to Doc Scratch, hopefully killing him off. I've got pP reading Monkey's mind, but I don't know if it'll work.
  1112.  
  1113. Otherwise, I dunno, we might just kill him ourselves.[/QUOTE]
  1114. Oh my god. Why didn't I make the connection? aA would've told him there already was a Time player.
  1115.  
  1116. Before we off him, should we try to abuse the situation? I mean, we have like two riddles at the moment.
  1117.  
  1118. (Also, it feels nice to know you trust me as much as you do pP.)
  1119.  
  1120. ================================================================================
  1121. From : MegaRock35
  1122. To : Godbot
  1123. Date : 2012-02-12 19:30
  1124. Title : Re: Just a quick note
  1125. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1126. [QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=Godbot]Hey, you're awake.
  1127.  
  1128. [url]http://pastebin.com/U16ddHry[/url]
  1129.  
  1130. Don't tell anyone about this for now. pP knows too, but that's all so far, and Monkey doesn't know anyone else knows.
  1131.  
  1132. I'm going to try and figure out what's endangering our sessions, and then I'm going to reveal the Betrayer's plan to Doc Scratch, hopefully killing him off. I've got pP reading Monkey's mind, but I don't know if it'll work.
  1133.  
  1134. Otherwise, I dunno, we might just kill him ourselves.[/QUOTE]
  1135. Oh my god. Why didn't I make the connection? aA would've told him there already was a Time player.
  1136.  
  1137. Before we off him, should we try to abuse the situation? I mean, we have like two riddles at the moment.
  1138.  
  1139. (Also, it feels nice to know you trust me as much as you do pP.)[/QUOTE]
  1140. I would sort of rather play fair, and eliminating the mole is a huge step forwards for us anyway.
  1141.  
  1142. I've spoken to him a little more, and the whole 'dooming us' thing seems less related to a gradual process and more related to his continued inquiries about performing the Scratch.
  1143.  
  1144. And yeah, of course I trust you - we know who the mole is, so now I can trust everyone else.
  1145.  
  1146. ...You know, probably.[/QUOTE]
  1147. Okay. There's no pride in cheating, I suppose. I feel I should mention that my correspondence with aA earlier revealed that he doesn't trust the Betrayer, either. As he put it, he tends toward doing a lot of nothing rather than helping anyone.
  1148.  
  1149. ================================================================================
  1150. From : MegaRock35
  1151. To : Godbot
  1152. Date : 2012-02-12 19:40
  1153. Title : Re: Just a quick note
  1154. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1155. I already told Legendary I was no longer suspicious when the possibility of two traitors was eliminated. Sorry. I'm not exactly sure that he's trustworthy, though, as he seemed genuinely interested in my "offer."
  1156.  
  1157. ================================================================================
  1158. From : MegaRock35
  1159. To : Godbot
  1160. Date : 2012-02-12 19:55
  1161. Title : Re: Just a quick note
  1162. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1163. Legendary is living up to his role well. He even try to convince me aA lied about there only being the one Betrayer. He seems to just want to come out on top. I'll see what Gecky and I get out of him.
  1164.  
  1165. ================================================================================
  1166. From : MegaRock35
  1167. To : Gecky
  1168. Date : 2012-02-12 19:58
  1169. Title : I need a favor
  1170. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1171. Could you maybe do your Seer of Heart thingy and figure out what he's up to? Some of his actions are worrying.
  1172.  
  1173. ================================================================================
  1174. From : MegaRock35
  1175. To : Legendary
  1176. Date : 2012-02-12 20:02
  1177. Title : Re: A Proposition
  1178. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1179. Are you implying that I can't trust you? And why did you act so interested in my deal when you weren't the traitor in the first place?
  1180.  
  1181. ================================================================================
  1182. From : MegaRock35
  1183. To : ardentApathy
  1184. Date : 2012-02-12 20:18
  1185. Title : Re: Q & A
  1186. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1187. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35]It should be of no surprise to you that tension is high, and everyone is a suspect. As such, I have taken it upon myself to figure out who I can trust.
  1188.  
  1189. Will you tell me who the Betrayer is? (I suspect the answer is, "No," or a non-answer, but it should be asked anyway)
  1190.  
  1191. What can you tell me about El Ninja Monkey? What is his Role? What is his Progress?
  1192.  
  1193. Same for Konkoa, problemProtagonist, and Godbot.
  1194.  
  1195. How many traitors are there?[/QUOTE]
  1196.  
  1197. There are no traitors, as far as I'm aware. And there is but one Betrayer. He is one of the players you just named.
  1198.  
  1199. El Ninja Monkey's Role is uncertain at the moment. However, his decisions have pushed him in a particular direction.
  1200.  
  1201. I feel I must mention that he made many attempts to change his initial decision. But we all must live with the consequences of our actions. [COLOR="#FFFFFF"](heehee)[/COLOR]
  1202.  
  1203. Konkoa's Role is similarly uncertain. I will say this much: he is a follower. I have tried to push him in the right direction, and I Hope he succeeds.
  1204.  
  1205. problemProtagonist's Role is the Thief of Mind. She is most adept at plucking the correct answers from the inner reaches of my own Mind. So adept, in fact, that she was the first to reach God Tier.
  1206.  
  1207. Godbot is the Knight, but his Aspect is as yet uncertain. Again, I have pushed him in a particular direction, but as always, his decisions are his own.
  1208.  
  1209. I Hope this has been helpful for you. It certainly was for me.[/QUOTE]
  1210. Thank you. It most certainly helped me decide who to trust.
  1211.  
  1212. But tell me, why have you employed the Betrayer?[/QUOTE]
  1213.  
  1214. I said no such thing. It is his decision whether to work for me or against me. Or neither. Thus far, he has opted more for the third choice.[/QUOTE]
  1215. You're an excellent Host, indeed. Everything else is falling into place quite nicely, but who is the one who has all the Roles?
  1216.  
  1217. ================================================================================
  1218. From : MegaRock35
  1219. To : Gecky
  1220. Date : 2012-02-13 11:35
  1221. Title : Re: I need a favor
  1222. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1223. [QUOTE=Gecky][QUOTE=MegaRock35]Could you maybe do your Seer of Heart thingy and figure out what he's up to? Some of his actions are worrying.[/QUOTE]
  1224. Maybe if you mentionned who you are refering to, though I am still waiting on the result for my search on monkey.[/QUOTE]
  1225. Whoops, sorry, I thought I specified. It's Legendary. He's, uh... he's gonna be a problem.
  1226.  
  1227. ================================================================================
  1228. From : MegaRock35
  1229. To : Godbot
  1230. Date : 2012-02-13 11:47
  1231. Title : Re: Just a quick note
  1232. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1233. [QUOTE=Legendary][QUOTE=MegaRock35]Are you implying that I can't trust you? And why did you act so interested in my deal when you weren't the traitor in the first place?[/QUOTE]
  1234.  
  1235. There's room for plenty of traitors.[/QUOTE]
  1236. At this point I'm not sure whether he's toying with us or if he's serious.
  1237.  
  1238. ================================================================================
  1239. From : MegaRock35
  1240. To : Godbot
  1241. Date : 2012-02-13 12:12
  1242. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  1243. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1244. I see two courses of action here:
  1245.  
  1246. 1.) We talk him out of it. Easier said than done.
  1247. 2.) We God-Tier everyone, then ostracize him. Difficult, but it can plausibly be done. One of our gracious Hosts knows all of the Roles, and if he's as Forth Coming as Scratch, then it's as simple as asking.
  1248.  
  1249. As it stands, it seems that the best course of action here is to have everyone get the tiger while you and Gecky try to get El Ninja Monkey to back out of it.
  1250.  
  1251. Of course, Legendary is still a problem, but keeping him out of the loop [i]should[/i] be simple enough.
  1252.  
  1253. And about the Red Session. Should we initiate contact and push them in the right direction like you've done with the Alphas?
  1254.  
  1255. ================================================================================
  1256. From : MegaRock35
  1257. To : Godbot
  1258. Date : 2012-02-13 12:48
  1259. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  1260. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1261. Yes, this seems to validate that idea. Though I've not actually used my powers yet, so I guess it's time to learn. I'll also be contacting our Other Excellent Host to see what he can tell me.
  1262.  
  1263. ================================================================================
  1264. From : MegaRock35
  1265. To : Godbot
  1266. Date : 2012-02-13 12:52
  1267. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  1268. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1269. [QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=MegaRock35]Yes, this seems to validate that idea. Though I've not actually used my powers yet, so I guess it's time to learn. I'll also be contacting our Other Excellent Host to see what he can tell me.[/QUOTE]
  1270. It's possible that if we reveal to Doc Scratch that Monkey wants to betray him, he'll tell us more about how to kill Monkey. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
  1271. My only reservation is that he may decide to make things more interesting and tell Monkey that we can't be trusted. However, we won't get anywhere if we don't know what we're doing, so we may just have to take this risk.
  1272.  
  1273. ================================================================================
  1274. From : MegaRock35
  1275. To : Godbot
  1276. Date : 2012-02-13 12:57
  1277. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  1278. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1279. Hmm, yes, if anyone would know s/he would.
  1280.  
  1281. In the meantime, I'm only just now catching up to the main thread. What in the hell is Schazer doing, and how did she manage to pick apart the game?
  1282.  
  1283. ================================================================================
  1284. From : MegaRock35
  1285. To : Godbot
  1286. Date : 2012-02-13 13:06
  1287. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  1288. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1289. I know. It's just not fair.
  1290.  
  1291. But I think I may have got it.
  1292.  
  1293. [quote=aA]Q: Truth ?
  1294. A: This is simultaneously the only answer to a riddle, while also being the only answer to ALL Riddles.
  1295.  
  1296. It is also, still simultaneously with the previous statement, the only Answer to a Riddle, while also being the only Answer to ALL riddles.
  1297.  
  1298. If you comprehended those two statements, you have what you need to solve HOMESTUCK.[/quote]
  1299. The Riddle is Hope and Truth, but the RIDDLE is HOPE and TRUTH. Thoughts?
  1300.  
  1301. ================================================================================
  1302. From : MegaRock35
  1303. To : ardentApathy
  1304. Date : 2012-02-13 13:08
  1305. Title : The RIDDLE
  1306. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1307. You've asked me what the answer to the RIDDLE is. You've also asked me what I have to say when you told me, "YOU CANNOT HOPE TO DEFEAT ME."
  1308.  
  1309. Well, I think I've got it.
  1310.  
  1311. I always have HOPE.
  1312.  
  1313. ================================================================================
  1314. From : MegaRock35
  1315. To : Godbot
  1316. Date : 2012-02-13 13:14
  1317. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  1318. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1319. [QUOTE=Godbot]I think what it's saying is...
  1320.  
  1321. There are riddles, which have answers.
  1322. All riddles have one Answer.
  1323.  
  1324. There are Riddles, which have Answers.
  1325. All Riddles have one answer.
  1326.  
  1327. I guess we have to define what a riddle, a Riddle, an answer, and an Answer are.[/QUOTE]
  1328. Hmm... I don't know. There seems to be a lot of arbitrary capitalizing going on here. Ever notice that aA always says Hope, and never hope?
  1329.  
  1330. ================================================================================
  1331. From : MegaRock35
  1332. To : Godbot
  1333. Date : 2012-02-13 13:18
  1334. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  1335. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1336. I remember when I solved the Riddle. It was Hope and Truth. Wouldn't it follow that the RIDDLE is HOPE and TRUTH?
  1337.  
  1338. ================================================================================
  1339. From : MegaRock35
  1340. To : Godbot
  1341. Date : 2012-02-13 13:36
  1342. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  1343. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1344. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35][quote=ardentApathy]What is HIVEBENT?[/quote]
  1345.  
  1346. [QUOTE=ardentApathy;6070444][B]Q:[/B] What is this?
  1347. [B]A:[/B] This is a riddle. It is also the Riddle.
  1348. [/QUOTE]
  1349.  
  1350. [quote=Andrew Hussie]"The thing is, Homestuck is both a story and a puzzle, by design and by definition. If asked to define it, “a story that’s also a puzzle” is as close to true as any answer I’d give."[/quote]
  1351.  
  1352. HIVEBENT is all of these. It is also Truth. It is also Hope.[/QUOTE]
  1353.  
  1354. Congratulations.
  1355.  
  1356. You have solved the Riddle.
  1357.  
  1358. But you still have yet to solve the RIDDLE.
  1359.  
  1360. But I'm sure you'll keep trying. That's what you do, isn't it?
  1361.  
  1362. (heehee)[/QUOTE]
  1363.  
  1364. ================================================================================
  1365. From : MegaRock35
  1366. To : Godbot
  1367. Date : 2012-02-13 13:41
  1368. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  1369. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1370. I know, but I think I've got it.
  1371. [QUOTE=Schazer;6078363]Judging by the sound of it, you'd be surprised how much I do [B]know[/B]. Or [B]Know[/B]. Or [B]KNOW[/B], for that matter.
  1372. [/QUOTE]
  1373. I solved the Riddle as soon as I stopped trying to figure out any hidden meanings. The answer was on the first page the whole time. It's not a fustercluck like I originally thought. It's a matter of taking what's given to you and putting it to use. Gentleman, I believe we have solved HOMESTUCK.
  1374.  
  1375. ================================================================================
  1376. From : MegaRock35
  1377. To : Godbot
  1378. Date : 2012-02-13 13:45
  1379. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  1380. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1381. [QUOTE=Godbot]I don't know anymore.
  1382.  
  1383. And I don't want Schazer's help. I'm just pissed off.[/QUOTE]
  1384. I know. Princess of Heart. It's so fitting. She destroyed are heart. We're all disheartened.
  1385.  
  1386. We put forth so much effort to solve it, and someone swoops in and solves it, just picking the mind of a few players. And the worst part is? She did it right in front us, and we [i]still[/i] don't know the answer. It's just so embarrassing.
  1387.  
  1388. At this point, even if we do solve it, it'll still feel like a loss.
  1389.  
  1390. ================================================================================
  1391. From : MegaRock35
  1392. To : Godbot
  1393. Date : 2012-02-13 14:03
  1394. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  1395. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1396. [QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=Godbot]I don't know anymore.
  1397.  
  1398. And I don't want Schazer's help. I'm just pissed off.[/QUOTE]
  1399. I know. Princess of Heart. It's so fitting. She destroyed are heart. We're all disheartened.
  1400.  
  1401. We put forth so much effort to solve it, and someone swoops in and solves it, just picking the mind of a few players. And the worst part is? She did it right in front us, and we [i]still[/i] don't know the answer. It's just so embarrassing.
  1402.  
  1403. At this point, even if we do solve it, it'll still feel like a loss.[/QUOTE]
  1404. I can't count how many PMs I've written her saying that I don't want to work together, or how angry I am at her or at myself how depressed this whole thing's gotten me.
  1405.  
  1406. I wish she'd never done any of this. I felt like I was doing a good job for once.[/QUOTE]
  1407. As you told the Alphas: "Don't despair." It's humiliating, yeah, but it's just a game. And really, I honestly I am less made at her than at aA. I'm writing something to him as we speak about why I think he was wrong. I'll forward it to you when I'm done, and the other players, as well, and you can voice your opinions on the matter.
  1408.  
  1409. ================================================================================
  1410. From : MegaRock35
  1411. To : ardentApathy
  1412. Date : 2012-02-13 14:10
  1413. Title : I'm a Bit Concerned
  1414. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1415. I don't think you've given us a fair deal. I feel that you may have gone back on your word. More than once, even.
  1416.  
  1417. For one thing, you contradict yourself.
  1418.  
  1419. [QUOTE=ardentApathy;6070444][B]Q:[/B] How do I play?
  1420. [B]A:[/B] Simply post here or message me expressing an interest to join. Only four people may play [I]in a given session[/I] at any one time. There may be up to two sessions running concurrently. [U]The first person to join a session will have a special role: only they can submit answers.[/U] They will also receive fewer clues than everyone else, but their clues will be more important to solving the ultimate riddle, as well as the Riddle.[/QUOTE]
  1421.  
  1422. [QUOTE=ardentApathy;6070444][B]A:[/B] A[U]nyone may answer any question they choose, in any manner they choose.[/U] However, the strength of an answer varies proportionally with the number of people who agree with it.[/QUOTE]
  1423.  
  1424. [QUOTE=ardentApathy;6070444][B]Q: [/B]Are you just making this up as you go along?
  1425. [B]A:[/B] Everything has been predetermined. I don't expect that will change in the future, either. [U]And I DEFINITELY won't change the game on you while you're still playing.[/U][/QUOTE]
  1426.  
  1427. This is untrue. You added an extra session not once, but twice, and both times, that game had already started. In addition, you allowed a solo player to win the game without having been a player in the first place. And while you may have decided to make her a player, which is understandable, you a.) informed no one of the change until it was already too late b.) you seem to have allowed her to become a player [b][i]after she had already found out about what was going on and knew insider information.[/i][/b] I don't know about you, but that sounds like cheating to me.
  1428.  
  1429. Now, don't get me wrong, I loved this game. It was fun, it was exciting, it allowed me to make friends, and it distracted me from the update hiatus. And I don't think you should "revoke" Schazer's win, either. What she did was amazing, and she deserves to be honored for it. I even plan to see this through until I solve it once and for all. (If I haven't already.)
  1430.  
  1431. But it's a hollow victory now. All of us-- who've worked so hard, who've overcome the complications of our discussions being compromised, the Betrayer, and even a second Traitor that even [i]you[/i] didn't know about-- we're humiliated and shamed by an outsider who did what took us hours of cooperation and brainstorming in the course of one night. I tell you this as a friend, and as constructive criticism, so that should you ever start another project such as this, it can be even grander than HOMESTUCK:
  1432.  
  1433. You've dashed our HOPES, and the TRUTH has escaped us.
  1434.  
  1435. Sincerely,
  1436. ~Mega
  1437.  
  1438. ================================================================================
  1439. From : MegaRock35
  1440. To : El Ninja Monkey
  1441. Gecky
  1442. Godbot
  1443. InoxFy
  1444. insanityIncarnate
  1445. Konkoa
  1446. Legendary
  1447. Liliumus
  1448. liquidMountain
  1449. MasterBlade
  1450. PlumFinder
  1451. problemProtagonist
  1452. Ranter
  1453. retroScavenger
  1454. Ross_Varn
  1455. Date : 2012-02-13 14:13
  1456. Title : Fw: I'm a Bit Concerned
  1457. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1458. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]I don't think you've given us a fair deal. I feel that you may have gone back on your word. More than once, even.
  1459.  
  1460. For one thing, you contradict yourself.
  1461.  
  1462. [QUOTE=ardentApathy;6070444][B]Q:[/B] How do I play?
  1463. [B]A:[/B] Simply post here or message me expressing an interest to join. Only four people may play [I]in a given session[/I] at any one time. There may be up to two sessions running concurrently. [U]The first person to join a session will have a special role: only they can submit answers.[/U] They will also receive fewer clues than everyone else, but their clues will be more important to solving the ultimate riddle, as well as the Riddle.[/QUOTE]
  1464.  
  1465. [QUOTE=ardentApathy;6070444][B]A:[/B] A[U]nyone may answer any question they choose, in any manner they choose.[/U] However, the strength of an answer varies proportionally with the number of people who agree with it.[/QUOTE]
  1466.  
  1467. [QUOTE=ardentApathy;6070444][B]Q: [/B]Are you just making this up as you go along?
  1468. [B]A:[/B] Everything has been predetermined. I don't expect that will change in the future, either. [U]And I DEFINITELY won't change the game on you while you're still playing.[/U][/QUOTE]
  1469.  
  1470. This is untrue. You added an extra session not once, but twice, and both times, that game had already started. In addition, you allowed a solo player to win the game without having been a player in the first place. And while you may have decided to make her a player, which is understandable, you a.) informed no one of the change until it was already too late b.) you seem to have allowed her to become a player [b][i]after she had already found out about what was going on and knew insider information.[/i][/b] I don't know about you, but that sounds like cheating to me.
  1471.  
  1472. Now, don't get me wrong, I loved this game. It was fun, it was exciting, it allowed me to make friends, and it distracted me from the update hiatus. And I don't think you should "revoke" Schazer's win, either. What she did was amazing, and she deserves to be honored for it. I even plan to see this through until I solve it once and for all. (If I haven't already.)
  1473.  
  1474. But it's a hollow victory now. All of us-- who've worked so hard, who've overcome the complications of our discussions being compromised, the Betrayer, and even a second Traitor that even [i]you[/i] didn't know about-- we're humiliated and shamed by an outsider who did what took us hours of cooperation and brainstorming in the course of one night. I tell you this as a friend, and as constructive criticism, so that should you ever start another project such as this, it can be even grander than HOMESTUCK:
  1475.  
  1476. You've dashed our HOPES, and the TRUTH has escaped us.
  1477.  
  1478. Sincerely,
  1479. ~Mega[/QUOTE]
  1480. Forwarding so you all can voice your opinions as well.
  1481.  
  1482. ================================================================================
  1483. From : MegaRock35
  1484. To : Ranter
  1485. Date : 2012-02-13 14:35
  1486. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  1487. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1488. [QUOTE=Ranter]Why can't you just have fun with it?[/QUOTE]
  1489. It's not so much that I lost, it's the fact that he changed it on the fly, despite explicitly saying he wouldn't. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to ruin anybody's fun, and I'm certainly not trying to make him shut the game down. I just needed to say something. (Plus it keeps Godbot off Schazer's back. I don't really think it was her fault at all)
  1490.  
  1491. ================================================================================
  1492. From : MegaRock35
  1493. To : Godbot
  1494. Date : 2012-02-13 14:37
  1495. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  1496. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1497. [QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=MegaRock35]Forwarding so you all can voice your opinions as well.[/QUOTE]
  1498. I hope this wasn't a mistake.[/QUOTE]
  1499. If you mean putting that there, no. It wasn't. If you mean letting everybody see it, well, time will tell. I guess I should point out that this is not mean, "Everybody go accost aA."
  1500.  
  1501. [QUOTE=Godbot]I don't know if she was cheating, though. She might've just been better than us.[/QUOTE]
  1502. I meant that aA was cheating.
  1503.  
  1504. ================================================================================
  1505. From : MegaRock35
  1506. To : MegaRock35
  1507. Date : 2012-02-13 14:41
  1508. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  1509. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1510. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]
  1511. Forwarding so you all can voice your opinions as well.[/QUOTE]
  1512. Let me reiterate: This is not an attack on aA, please don't flame or rage at him. I also don't plan on having the game shut down for those of you who just started, either. Please be civil, folks. You can keep playing. It's not over, it's not the end of the world. But I feel I must tell him how I feel about this, if for no other reason than to give him advice for any similar undertaking in the future. Thank you.
  1513.  
  1514. ================================================================================
  1515. From : MegaRock35
  1516. To : El Ninja Monkey
  1517. Gecky
  1518. Godbot
  1519. InoxFy
  1520. insanityIncarnate
  1521. Konkoa
  1522. Legendary
  1523. Liliumus
  1524. liquidMountain
  1525. MasterBlade
  1526. PlumFinder
  1527. problemProtagonist
  1528. Ranter
  1529. retroScavenger
  1530. Ross_Varn
  1531. Date : 2012-02-13 14:43
  1532. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  1533. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1534. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]Forwarding so you all can voice your opinions as well.[/QUOTE]
  1535. Let me reiterate: This is not an attack on aA, please don't flame or rage at him. I also don't plan on having the game shut down for those of you who just started, either. Please be civil, folks. You can keep playing. It's not over, it's not the end of the world. But I feel I must tell him how I feel about this, if for no other reason than to give him advice for any similar undertaking in the future. Thank you.
  1536.  
  1537. ================================================================================
  1538. From : MegaRock35
  1539. To : PlumFinder
  1540. Date : 2012-02-13 14:44
  1541. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  1542. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1543. [QUOTE=PlumFinder]WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT?[/QUOTE]
  1544. It was a message I sent to aA, but I shan't elaborate if that's how you plan to talk to me.
  1545.  
  1546. ================================================================================
  1547. From : MegaRock35
  1548. To : ardentApathy
  1549. Date : 2012-02-13 14:49
  1550. Title : I Should Clarify
  1551. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1552. That letter was not meant as an attack. I apologize if it came off that way. I should let you know that so far the general consensus is that I am being a spoil-sport, so ignore me, I guess. Maybe Godbot and I were the only ones upset.
  1553.  
  1554. And in case I seemed like I wanted you to end this, or anything, I don't. I fully intend to keep playing, and I know several others are only now just getting to play. It was just meant as a way vent, and I in no way speak for everyone. Sorry, and like I said, I still had fun, and I still consider you a friend.
  1555.  
  1556. ================================================================================
  1557. From : MegaRock35
  1558. To : PlumFinder
  1559. Date : 2012-02-13 14:53
  1560. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  1561. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1562. [QUOTE=PlumFinder]I hope that wasn't due to my response. It was a bit uncalled for, but I'm getting really annoyed at this thing. Everybody seems to be in on something I'm not, and that is getting very frustrating. As far as I know, the entire 'Let's play HOMESTUCK' game, is only the one thread in the Games subforum, but somehow, everyone seems to be doing all kinds of other stuff that does not happen there.
  1563. And I would like a straight answer for once. I can hardly give an opinion on what you are saying if I'm constantly in the dark over this game.[/QUOTE]
  1564. Our main communication has been through PMs and quicktopics and other fora, as we were told not to leave any spoilers for those who may come to game later. (Figuring things out for yourself is part of the game, after all) Ignore this, I guess, because it doesn't really apply to you, as you have just started, but I was just expressing an opinion on the matter of aA's bringing in Schazer while she seemed to already know more than you're supposed to before you play.
  1565.  
  1566. So don't mind me, I'm just venting. I'm sorry if I put a damper on things, and please try to have fun!
  1567.  
  1568. ================================================================================
  1569. From : MegaRock35
  1570. To : MasterBlade
  1571. Date : 2012-02-13 14:55
  1572. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  1573. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1574. [QUOTE=MasterBlade][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=MegaRock35]Forwarding so you all can voice your opinions as well.[/QUOTE]
  1575. Let me reiterate: This is not an attack on aA, please don't flame or rage at him. I also don't plan on having the game shut down for those of you who just started, either. Please be civil, folks. You can keep playing. It's not over, it's not the end of the world. But I feel I must tell him how I feel about this, if for no other reason than to give him advice for any similar undertaking in the future. Thank you.[/QUOTE]
  1576.  
  1577. I would be offended by the win if not for the nature of the game that noone knows what the hell is going on at any given time. If he's continuing for everyone else, I have no qualms. If Shazer's win means we can no longer continue, then yes I have a problem with that.[/QUOTE]
  1578. He's already stated in the topic that it will continue, and I sent another PM telling him I'm not trying to ruin anything and that I'm pretty much alone on this matter. Sorry, ignore me.
  1579.  
  1580. ================================================================================
  1581. From : MegaRock35
  1582. To : Ranter
  1583. Date : 2012-02-13 14:58
  1584. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  1585. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1586. Okay, and sorry if I was being a killjoy.
  1587.  
  1588. And yes, part of this was just saying it so he could be better about it in the future. If HOMESTUCK V2 is a thing that will happen, I'd probably jump for that, too.
  1589.  
  1590. (I've also notified aA that I seem to be the only worrying so much about this, too.)
  1591.  
  1592. ================================================================================
  1593. From : MegaRock35
  1594. To : problemProtagonist
  1595. Date : 2012-02-13 15:00
  1596. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  1597. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1598. [QUOTE=problemProtagonist]Yeah, I agree with everything you've said.
  1599.  
  1600. I feel obligated to point out that I have no intention of quitting.
  1601.  
  1602. Are you still with me?[/QUOTE]
  1603. Of course! But the general consensus was that aA was within his rights, and I did try to clarify that we seem to be in the minority, but aren't done just yet.
  1604.  
  1605. ================================================================================
  1606. From : MegaRock35
  1607. To : Godbot
  1608. Date : 2012-02-13 17:07
  1609. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  1610. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1611. [QUOTE=Godbot]We lucked out. Retro logged in before aA did, and I got him (her?) to use his Seer of Light powers to ask about the ideal way of defeating ElNinjaMonkey, given that we've got Knights of Hope, Doom and Void.
  1612.  
  1613. Should I also PM aA the chatlog saying that El's planning to betray him, as an extra incentive?[/QUOTE]
  1614. Yes. Things are turning around.
  1615.  
  1616. ================================================================================
  1617. From : MegaRock35
  1618. To : ardentApathy
  1619. Date : 2012-02-14 12:43
  1620. Title : I Should Apologize
  1621. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1622. I let my Pride get the best of me and acted out of anger in a way that was totally unreasonable. This is your Game, and I don't have the full story yet, so I shouldn't have done that. I know it doesn't excuse the fact that I publicly made an asshole of myself, but I just thought I should say sorry.
  1623.  
  1624. ================================================================================
  1625. From : MegaRock35
  1626. To : Ranter
  1627. Date : 2012-02-14 12:55
  1628. Title : Roles
  1629. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1630. I may have to utilize my Aspect before long. As a Knight of Doom, I weaponize Doom in combat. Thing is...
  1631.  
  1632. I don't know how to do that. As our resident Role expert, and because you and your teammates have used your powers in the past, I figured you'd be the person to go to for help.
  1633.  
  1634. ================================================================================
  1635. From : MegaRock35
  1636. To : Ranter
  1637. Date : 2012-02-14 13:34
  1638. Title : Re: Roles
  1639. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1640. I actually have challenged him directly a couple times. (When I had an exchange like [url=http://mspaforums.com/showthread.php?45820-Let-s-Play-HOMESTUCK&p=6078411&viewfull=1#post6078411]this[/url] via PM, my response was "Bring it on," though he was able to turn it around on me by realizing I didn't know what I would actually [i]do[/i])
  1641.  
  1642. Though in this, case the target isn't aA. I was actually hoping that I could somehow use my abilities on the Betrayer, and possibly take him out of the picture. Maybe Legend, if it came to it. In a correspondence that I've lost in my sea of PMs, he expressed that it may, in fact, be possible to remove a God Tiered player in this way. Though I could just be rembering wrong.
  1643.  
  1644. Anyway, thanks for your help! I guess this is just something I have to figure out for myself.
  1645.  
  1646. ================================================================================
  1647. From : MegaRock35
  1648. To : Ranter
  1649. Date : 2012-02-14 14:50
  1650. Title : Re: Roles
  1651. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1652. Yeah, I've been waiting on him since yesterday. I figure he's busy with IRL stuff on the weekdays. But it's alright, because it means I have time to think and sort through this. Working on a Master Guide Document of everything.
  1653.  
  1654. Speaking of, would you be so kind as to give me a transcript of all your LPH PMs? As it turns out, stuff in that seems trivial to one player ends up being a point of confusion for another, so I'm trying to compile them all. The best way to go about this would be to select all the ones you're comfortable sharing, select download as text, and then copy it to pastebin.com. Thanks, and I understand if that's something you're not comfortable doing.
  1655.  
  1656. ################################################################################
  1657. Folder : Inbox
  1658. ################################################################################
  1659.  
  1660. ================================================================================
  1661. From : Godbot
  1662. To : MegaRock35
  1663. Date : 2012-02-12 15:28
  1664. Title : Re: Correspondence with a Traitor
  1665. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1666. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=problemProtagonist]Welp indeed. Legendary = traitor confirmed? Or is he just toying with us?[/QUOTE]
  1667. Keep in mind that there's probably more than one traitor. Legend didn't know about the Blue Session quicktopic, but the Betrayer did.[/QUOTE]
  1668. Keep in mind that this might mean that Legend knows about the plan to trick him.
  1669.  
  1670. But then again, knowing aA, he's not going to make it that easy for his subordinates, either.
  1671.  
  1672. Any thoughts on who the Betrayer could be?
  1673.  
  1674. ================================================================================
  1675. From : problemProtagonist
  1676. To : MegaRock35
  1677. Date : 2012-02-12 15:31
  1678. Title : Re: Correspondence with a Traitor
  1679. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1680. Yeah, I know. Makes things all the more complicated.
  1681.  
  1682. ================================================================================
  1683. From : Legendary
  1684. To : MegaRock35
  1685. Date : 2012-02-12 15:32
  1686. Title : Re: A Proposition
  1687. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1688. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=Legendary][QUOTE=ardentApathy][CENTER][QUOTE=Legendary][QUOTE=ardentApathy]Yes, one might, if one were so inclined.[/QUOTE]
  1689.  
  1690. I'm suddenly afraid I'm being played. Let me rephrase that:
  1691.  
  1692. If one were to describe it as Ultimate, would they be correct in doing so?[/QUOTE]
  1693.  
  1694. It depends.
  1695.  
  1696. What would they mean by that?[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  1697.  
  1698. It is the riddle of which all other riddles relevant to this game of Homestuck are relevant.
  1699. It is the riddle by which answering correctly ends the game.[/QUOTE]
  1700.  
  1701. I'm suddenly afraid I am being played.
  1702.  
  1703. Such fear does not become an Excellent Host such as myself.
  1704.  
  1705. But I still don't see how this could possibly be important to solving the RIDDLE.[/CENTER][/QUOTE]
  1706.  
  1707. [SPOILER]CONGRATULATIONS!
  1708.  
  1709. YOU HAVE FINALLY REACHED GOD TIER!!!
  1710.  
  1711. :chummy:[/SPOILER][/QUOTE]
  1712.  
  1713. ================================================================================
  1714. From : Godbot
  1715. To : MegaRock35
  1716. Date : 2012-02-12 15:32
  1717. Title : Re: Correspondence with a Traitor
  1718. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1719. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=problemProtagonist]Welp indeed. Legendary = traitor confirmed? Or is he just toying with us?[/QUOTE]
  1720. Keep in mind that there's probably more than one traitor. Legend didn't know about the Blue Session quicktopic, but the Betrayer did.[/QUOTE]
  1721. Keep in mind that this might mean that Legend knows about the plan to trick him.
  1722.  
  1723. But then again, knowing aA, he's not going to make it that easy for his subordinates, either.
  1724.  
  1725. Any thoughts on who the Betrayer could be?[/QUOTE]
  1726. Copypasta:
  1727. [quote=Me]1. Godbot. He's been helpful, but he's got info from all three sessions. He knows the most.
  1728. 2. problemProtagonist. She's the one who first initiated contact between the Beta and the Blue Sessions.
  1729. 3. Konkoa. He's the one I know the least about, though it's possible that he's just not very far.
  1730. 4. El Ninja Monkey. He's the one I know second least about, though he DOES have a day job to worry about.
  1731. 5. Me. I don't suspect myself, obviously, but that doesn't mean YOU shouldn't. [/quote][/QUOTE]
  1732.  
  1733. Well, that's a healthy sense of distrust. Keep in mind that pP, Ranter and I alerted you to the presence of a traitor, though.
  1734.  
  1735. Anyway, try and find out more about Konkoa and El Ninja Monkey would be my advice.
  1736.  
  1737. ================================================================================
  1738. From : problemProtagonist
  1739. To : MegaRock35
  1740. Date : 2012-02-12 15:53
  1741. Title : Re: Correspondence with a Traitor
  1742. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1743. What's the conversation between Legend and aA? "Yes, one might, if one were so inclined." One might what?
  1744.  
  1745. ================================================================================
  1746. From : Godbot
  1747. To : MegaRock35
  1748. Date : 2012-02-12 16:13
  1749. Title : Re: Correspondence with a Traitor
  1750. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1751. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=problemProtagonist]What's the conversation between Legend and aA? "Yes, one might, if one were so inclined." One might what?[/QUOTE]
  1752. No clue. I asked him to tell me something only the traitor would know. He's being obtuse. I'm getting nowhere fast. Should I tell him my answer to the Riddle and then demand that he tells me everything he knows?[/QUOTE]
  1753. I'm a bit busy corresponding with the Alpha Team and trying to get them back on track.
  1754.  
  1755. I'd say no, don't tell a possible traitor the answer to a riddle. Remember, he can give you misinformation. Fake it if you'd like.
  1756.  
  1757. ================================================================================
  1758. From : Legendary
  1759. To : MegaRock35
  1760. Date : 2012-02-12 16:14
  1761. Title : Re: A Proposition
  1762. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1763. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]That proves nothing, but aA has assured me that there is only one traitor. At the risk of royally fucking up, I must say that I never planned to join you, and that this was just an investigation as to whether you were the Betrayer or not.
  1764.  
  1765. I think I know who the Traitor is, though.[/QUOTE]
  1766.  
  1767. AA does not always tell the truth.
  1768.  
  1769. ================================================================================
  1770. From : ardentApathy
  1771. To : MegaRock35
  1772. Date : 2012-02-12 16:22
  1773. Title : Re: Q & A
  1774. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1775. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]It should be of no surprise to you that tension is high, and everyone is a suspect. As such, I have taken it upon myself to figure out who I can trust.
  1776.  
  1777. Will you tell me who the Betrayer is? (I suspect the answer is, "No," or a non-answer, but it should be asked anyway)
  1778.  
  1779. What can you tell me about El Ninja Monkey? What is his Role? What is his Progress?
  1780.  
  1781. Same for Konkoa, problemProtagonist, and Godbot.
  1782.  
  1783. How many traitors are there?[/QUOTE]
  1784.  
  1785. There are no traitors, as far as I'm aware. And there is but one Betrayer. He is one of the players you just named.
  1786.  
  1787. El Ninja Monkey's Role is uncertain at the moment. However, his decisions have pushed him in a particular direction.
  1788.  
  1789. I feel I must mention that he made many attempts to change his initial decision. But we all must live with the consequences of our actions. [COLOR="#FFFFFF"](heehee)[/COLOR]
  1790.  
  1791. Konkoa's Role is similarly uncertain. I will say this much: he is a follower. I have tried to push him in the right direction, and I Hope he succeeds.
  1792.  
  1793. problemProtagonist's Role is the Thief of Mind. She is most adept at plucking the correct answers from the inner reaches of my own Mind. So adept, in fact, that she was the first to reach God Tier.
  1794.  
  1795. Godbot is the Knight, but his Aspect is as yet uncertain. Again, I have pushed him in a particular direction, but as always, his decisions are his own.
  1796.  
  1797. I Hope this has been helpful for you. It certainly was for me.
  1798.  
  1799. ================================================================================
  1800. From : problemProtagonist
  1801. To : MegaRock35
  1802. Date : 2012-02-12 16:26
  1803. Title : Re: Correspondence with a Traitor
  1804. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1805. According to AA, there is a single traitor, it's a 'he' and he's not been very active. He's true to his role, which is up to him to decide. So it's practically either El Ninja Monkey or Konkoa.
  1806.  
  1807. ================================================================================
  1808. From : problemProtagonist
  1809. To : MegaRock35
  1810. Date : 2012-02-12 16:39
  1811. Title : Re: The Betrayer
  1812. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1813. I already expressed my opinion on the matter, but I must say that the thing about me makes me rather proud. /shot
  1814.  
  1815. ================================================================================
  1816. From : Liliumus
  1817. To : MegaRock35
  1818. Date : 2012-02-12 17:02
  1819. Title : Re: The Betrayer
  1820. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1821. I have an idea: why not make a faux topic? The idea would be to only let the link known to the ones we suspect. If aA finds out about it, we know for sure it's one of them. Then we have to create a topic for each of them and then, well, you get the idea.
  1822.  
  1823. ================================================================================
  1824. From : Liliumus
  1825. To : MegaRock35
  1826. Date : 2012-02-12 17:03
  1827. Title : Re: The Betrayer
  1828. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1829. I have an idea: why not make a faux topic? The idea would be to only let the link known to the ones we suspect. If aA finds out about it, we know for sure it's one of them. Then we have to create a topic for each of them and then, well, you get the idea.
  1830.  
  1831. ================================================================================
  1832. From : Liliumus
  1833. To : MegaRock35
  1834. Date : 2012-02-12 17:03
  1835. Title : Re: The Betrayer
  1836. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1837. I have an idea: why not make a faux topic? The idea would be to only let the link known to the ones we suspect. If aA finds out about it, we know for sure it's one of them. Then we have to create a topic for each of them and then, well, you get the idea.
  1838.  
  1839. ================================================================================
  1840. From : Liliumus
  1841. To : MegaRock35
  1842. Date : 2012-02-12 17:06
  1843. Title : Re: The Betrayer
  1844. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1845. I have an idea: why not make a faux topic? The idea would be to only let the link known to the ones we suspect. If aA finds out about it, we know for sure it's one of them. Then we have to create a topic for each of them and then, well, you get the idea.
  1846.  
  1847. ================================================================================
  1848. From : ardentApathy
  1849. To : MegaRock35
  1850. Date : 2012-02-12 17:26
  1851. Title : Re: An Opportunity
  1852. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1853. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=ardentApathy;6072261]Your decision has been taken under consideration.
  1854.  
  1855. That means you're in.[/QUOTE]
  1856.  
  1857. You are now playing HIVEBENT.
  1858.  
  1859. What will you do?[/QUOTE]
  1860. >Proceed to First Gate[/QUOTE]
  1861.  
  1862. You stand before the First Gate.
  1863.  
  1864. You stand before the precipice.
  1865.  
  1866. What you decide here will decide your entire future.
  1867.  
  1868. What will you do?[/QUOTE]
  1869. >Examine Gate[/QUOTE]
  1870.  
  1871. Looking into the gate, you can see your entire life stretched before you. All the successes, all the mistakes. All the highs, all the lows. Everyone you've ever known or loved. Every single event in your own personal timeline, laid out before you in a single row.
  1872.  
  1873. You think you can reach through the Gate without actually going through.
  1874.  
  1875. Do you want to try?
  1876.  
  1877. ================================================================================
  1878. From : ardentApathy
  1879. To : MegaRock35
  1880. Date : 2012-02-12 17:28
  1881. Title : Re: Q & A
  1882. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1883. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35]It should be of no surprise to you that tension is high, and everyone is a suspect. As such, I have taken it upon myself to figure out who I can trust.
  1884.  
  1885. Will you tell me who the Betrayer is? (I suspect the answer is, "No," or a non-answer, but it should be asked anyway)
  1886.  
  1887. What can you tell me about El Ninja Monkey? What is his Role? What is his Progress?
  1888.  
  1889. Same for Konkoa, problemProtagonist, and Godbot.
  1890.  
  1891. How many traitors are there?[/QUOTE]
  1892.  
  1893. There are no traitors, as far as I'm aware. And there is but one Betrayer. He is one of the players you just named.
  1894.  
  1895. El Ninja Monkey's Role is uncertain at the moment. However, his decisions have pushed him in a particular direction.
  1896.  
  1897. I feel I must mention that he made many attempts to change his initial decision. But we all must live with the consequences of our actions. [COLOR="#FFFFFF"](heehee)[/COLOR]
  1898.  
  1899. Konkoa's Role is similarly uncertain. I will say this much: he is a follower. I have tried to push him in the right direction, and I Hope he succeeds.
  1900.  
  1901. problemProtagonist's Role is the Thief of Mind. She is most adept at plucking the correct answers from the inner reaches of my own Mind. So adept, in fact, that she was the first to reach God Tier.
  1902.  
  1903. Godbot is the Knight, but his Aspect is as yet uncertain. Again, I have pushed him in a particular direction, but as always, his decisions are his own.
  1904.  
  1905. I Hope this has been helpful for you. It certainly was for me.[/QUOTE]
  1906. Thank you. It most certainly helped me decide who to trust.
  1907.  
  1908. But tell me, why have you employed the Betrayer?[/QUOTE]
  1909.  
  1910. I said no such thing. It is his decision whether to work for me or against me. Or neither. Thus far, he has opted more for the third choice.
  1911.  
  1912. ================================================================================
  1913. From : Godbot
  1914. To : MegaRock35
  1915. Date : 2012-02-12 18:58
  1916. Title : Just a quick note
  1917. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1918. Hey, you're awake.
  1919.  
  1920. [url]http://pastebin.com/U16ddHry[/url]
  1921.  
  1922. Don't tell anyone about this for now. pP knows too, but that's all so far, and Monkey doesn't know anyone else knows.
  1923.  
  1924. I'm going to try and figure out what's endangering our sessions, and then I'm going to reveal the Betrayer's plan to Doc Scratch, hopefully killing him off. I've got pP reading Monkey's mind, but I don't know if it'll work.
  1925.  
  1926. Otherwise, I dunno, we might just kill him ourselves.
  1927.  
  1928. ================================================================================
  1929. From : Godbot
  1930. To : MegaRock35
  1931. Date : 2012-02-12 19:22
  1932. Title : Re: Just a quick note
  1933. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1934. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=Godbot]Hey, you're awake.
  1935.  
  1936. [url]http://pastebin.com/U16ddHry[/url]
  1937.  
  1938. Don't tell anyone about this for now. pP knows too, but that's all so far, and Monkey doesn't know anyone else knows.
  1939.  
  1940. I'm going to try and figure out what's endangering our sessions, and then I'm going to reveal the Betrayer's plan to Doc Scratch, hopefully killing him off. I've got pP reading Monkey's mind, but I don't know if it'll work.
  1941.  
  1942. Otherwise, I dunno, we might just kill him ourselves.[/QUOTE]
  1943. Oh my god. Why didn't I make the connection? aA would've told him there already was a Time player.
  1944.  
  1945. Before we off him, should we try to abuse the situation? I mean, we have like two riddles at the moment.
  1946.  
  1947. (Also, it feels nice to know you trust me as much as you do pP.)[/QUOTE]
  1948. I would sort of rather play fair, and eliminating the mole is a huge step forwards for us anyway.
  1949.  
  1950. I've spoken to him a little more, and the whole 'dooming us' thing seems less related to a gradual process and more related to his continued inquiries about performing the Scratch.
  1951.  
  1952. And yeah, of course I trust you - we know who the mole is, so now I can trust everyone else.
  1953.  
  1954. ...You know, probably.
  1955.  
  1956. ================================================================================
  1957. From : Godbot
  1958. To : MegaRock35
  1959. Date : 2012-02-12 19:35
  1960. Title : Re: Just a quick note
  1961. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1962. That is definitely the sense I got, yeah. He seemed to just pick "The Betrayer" arbitrarily because he had no idea what else to do and wasn't even trying to solve the riddle. He's probably been something of a pain to work with.
  1963.  
  1964. I haven't told Legendary he's off the hook yet, because that would tip off Monkey. Frankly, I have no idea what I'd do with a Bard of Blood anyway.
  1965.  
  1966. ================================================================================
  1967. From : Godbot
  1968. To : MegaRock35
  1969. Date : 2012-02-12 19:50
  1970. Title : Re: Just a quick note
  1971. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1972. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]I already told Legendary I was no longer suspicious when the possibility of two traitors was eliminated. Sorry. I'm not exactly sure that he's trustworthy, though, as he seemed genuinely interested in my "offer."[/QUOTE]
  1973. Oh, no, that's fine. I don't care if Legendary thinks he's in the clear - I care about if Monkey thinks that I think Legendary isn't in the clear.
  1974.  
  1975. Just keep it under wraps and we'll be just fine.
  1976.  
  1977. But... yeah, it is a little worrisome. You should probe him a little more.
  1978.  
  1979. Gecky became the Seer of Hearth, by the way, so he (she?) can see people's true intentions. I've already got him making use of that, but you should probably tell him to use his powers on Legendary.
  1980.  
  1981. ================================================================================
  1982. From : Godbot
  1983. To : MegaRock35
  1984. Date : 2012-02-12 20:11
  1985. Title : Re: Just a quick note
  1986. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1987. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]Legendary is living up to his role well. He even try to convince me aA lied about there only being the one Betrayer. He seems to just want to come out on top. I'll see what Gecky and I get out of him.[/QUOTE]
  1988. Great, thank you.
  1989.  
  1990. ================================================================================
  1991. From : Legendary
  1992. To : MegaRock35
  1993. Date : 2012-02-12 20:23
  1994. Title : Re: A Proposition
  1995. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  1996. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]Are you implying that I can't trust you? And why did you act so interested in my deal when you weren't the traitor in the first place?[/QUOTE]
  1997.  
  1998. There's room for plenty of traitors.
  1999.  
  2000. ================================================================================
  2001. From : Gecky
  2002. To : MegaRock35
  2003. Date : 2012-02-12 21:47
  2004. Title : Re: I need a favor
  2005. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2006. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]Could you maybe do your Seer of Heart thingy and figure out what he's up to? Some of his actions are worrying.[/QUOTE]
  2007. Maybe if you mentionned who you are refering to, though I am still waiting on the result for my search on monkey.
  2008.  
  2009. ================================================================================
  2010. From : ardentApathy
  2011. To : MegaRock35
  2012. Date : 2012-02-12 22:04
  2013. Title : Re: Q & A
  2014. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2015. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35]It should be of no surprise to you that tension is high, and everyone is a suspect. As such, I have taken it upon myself to figure out who I can trust.
  2016.  
  2017. Will you tell me who the Betrayer is? (I suspect the answer is, "No," or a non-answer, but it should be asked anyway)
  2018.  
  2019. What can you tell me about El Ninja Monkey? What is his Role? What is his Progress?
  2020.  
  2021. Same for Konkoa, problemProtagonist, and Godbot.
  2022.  
  2023. How many traitors are there?[/QUOTE]
  2024.  
  2025. There are no traitors, as far as I'm aware. And there is but one Betrayer. He is one of the players you just named.
  2026.  
  2027. El Ninja Monkey's Role is uncertain at the moment. However, his decisions have pushed him in a particular direction.
  2028.  
  2029. I feel I must mention that he made many attempts to change his initial decision. But we all must live with the consequences of our actions. [COLOR="#FFFFFF"](heehee)[/COLOR]
  2030.  
  2031. Konkoa's Role is similarly uncertain. I will say this much: he is a follower. I have tried to push him in the right direction, and I Hope he succeeds.
  2032.  
  2033. problemProtagonist's Role is the Thief of Mind. She is most adept at plucking the correct answers from the inner reaches of my own Mind. So adept, in fact, that she was the first to reach God Tier.
  2034.  
  2035. Godbot is the Knight, but his Aspect is as yet uncertain. Again, I have pushed him in a particular direction, but as always, his decisions are his own.
  2036.  
  2037. I Hope this has been helpful for you. It certainly was for me.[/QUOTE]
  2038. Thank you. It most certainly helped me decide who to trust.
  2039.  
  2040. But tell me, why have you employed the Betrayer?[/QUOTE]
  2041.  
  2042. I said no such thing. It is his decision whether to work for me or against me. Or neither. Thus far, he has opted more for the third choice.[/QUOTE]
  2043. You're an excellent Host, indeed. Everything else is falling into place quite nicely, but who is the one who has all the Roles?[/QUOTE]
  2044.  
  2045. He is the only contender, and my only rival, to my title of Excellent Host. Well, perhaps not my [I]only[/I] rival. But I don't like to talk about that other guy. What a weirdo.
  2046.  
  2047. He also understands, perhaps better than anyone, how important one's character is to determining their Role.
  2048.  
  2049. ================================================================================
  2050. From : Godbot
  2051. To : MegaRock35
  2052. Date : 2012-02-13 11:48
  2053. Title : Fw: El Ninja Monkey
  2054. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2055. [QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=El Ninja Monkey][QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=El Ninja Monkey] [QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=El Ninja Monkey][QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=El Ninja Monkey]My contact abilities are limited. I can still converse this way or you can create a quick topic.[/QUOTE]
  2056. PMs are fine.[/QUOTE]
  2057.  
  2058. Ok any last questions?[/QUOTE]
  2059. Just why it is that we're all in danger.[/QUOTE]
  2060. I asked him how to cause the scratch as a hint.[/QUOTE]
  2061. So it's not an ongoing process so much as him warning us because you kept talking to him?[/QUOTE]
  2062. That seems about right.[/QUOTE]
  2063.  
  2064.  
  2065. [b]Shortly after I had Gecky investigate the inactive players with his/her new Seer of Heart (Hearth?) powers:[/b]
  2066.  
  2067. [QUOTE=El Ninja Monkey] [QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=El Ninja Monkey] [QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=El Ninja Monkey][QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=El Ninja Monkey]Gecky is in give him the pester log.
  2068.  
  2069.  
  2070. Remember I still have my plan B. This isn't to be known by anyone but us 3.[/QUOTE]
  2071. Why is Gecky in?[/QUOTE]
  2072.  
  2073. I believe he had deduced it was me. I had to prevent him from going public.[/QUOTE]
  2074. What, 'cause you've been so inactive?[/QUOTE]
  2075.  
  2076. Was that a joke?
  2077.  
  2078. Either way in the quick topic gecky (post 148 ) says "I'm having a feeling some monkey has leaked"[/QUOTE]
  2079. Well, that is interesting.
  2080.  
  2081. Anyway, are you still planning on causing the Scratch?[/QUOTE]
  2082.  
  2083. Like I said plan B. Think of it as a threat or a backup plan for you.
  2084.  
  2085. Now I'm going to retire for the night.[/QUOTE]
  2086.  
  2087. This PM's already getting pretty big, so I'll send another with my correspondence with aA.[/QUOTE]
  2088.  
  2089. ================================================================================
  2090. From : Godbot
  2091. To : MegaRock35
  2092. Date : 2012-02-13 11:49
  2093. Title : Fw: El Ninja Monkey
  2094. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2095. [QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=Godbot]Next question: Suppose we do find the traitor. What then? Is it true that only a player can get yourself killed? Can two players challenge each other?[/QUOTE]
  2096.  
  2097. Ooh, now that [I]is[/I] an interesting question.
  2098.  
  2099. I suppose the only way to kill another player is to get him to stop playing. In other words, to make him [I]want[/I] to stop playing.
  2100.  
  2101. [COLOR="#FFFFFF"](heehee)[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
  2102.  
  2103.  
  2104.  
  2105. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=Godbot]Okay, so, you've probably more or less figured out our plan by now, but I might as well ask anyway:
  2106.  
  2107. Can one player initiate the Scratch on their own?[/QUOTE]
  2108.  
  2109. Oh yes. In fact, at this moment, ONLY one player may initiate the Scratch.
  2110.  
  2111. I'll let you figure out who that is by yourself.[/QUOTE]
  2112. As if I haven't already.
  2113.  
  2114. Tomorrow's gonna be interesting, by the way.[/QUOTE]
  2115.  
  2116. Oh, I certainly Hope so. For your sakes, I mean.
  2117.  
  2118. [COLOR="#FFFFFF"](heehee)[/COLOR][/QUOTE]
  2119. Why are you letting this happen, anyway? He's going to ruin everything for no reason.[/QUOTE]
  2120.  
  2121. Who is, the Bard?
  2122.  
  2123. They tend to do this kind of thing.
  2124.  
  2125. It's in their nature.[/QUOTE]
  2126. I wasn't aware he had a title at all.[/QUOTE]
  2127.  
  2128. I don't believe he was, either, until just recently.[/QUOTE]
  2129.  
  2130. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=Godbot]All right, you know what? I'm getting too specific in my questions, and this isn't what a Knight of Hope should do. Let's start bigger.
  2131.  
  2132. Can the Traitors still be stopped?[/QUOTE]
  2133.  
  2134. The Traitors?
  2135.  
  2136. I believe I have said already that there are no traitors, much less Traitors. At least to my knowledge.[/QUOTE]
  2137. Fine.
  2138.  
  2139. Can the Betrayer still be stopped?[/QUOTE]
  2140.  
  2141. Of course he can. However, whether or not he [I]will[/I] be stopped is ultimately up to him.[/QUOTE]
  2142.  
  2143.  
  2144. I have to admit – working with an antagonist who’s dangerous and unpredictable because he’s stupid in a lazy sort of way and thinks he's smart and dangerous is frustrating and pretty scary. I have no idea how we're going to go about doing this anymore. We might just have to talk him out of it.
  2145.  
  2146. Anyway, Ranter was keeping correspondence with him, too, and it turns out that God Tier players can't be removed from a session, even through use of a Scratch.
  2147.  
  2148. In other words, it would seem that we can't kill Monkey, but he can't kill anyone on the Beta team and several players on the Blue Team, either.[/QUOTE]
  2149.  
  2150. ================================================================================
  2151. From : Godbot
  2152. To : MegaRock35
  2153. Date : 2012-02-13 12:14
  2154. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  2155. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2156. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]I see two courses of action here:
  2157.  
  2158. 1.) We talk him out of it. Easier said than done.
  2159. 2.) We God-Tier everyone, then ostracize him. Difficult, but it can plausibly be done. One of our gracious Hosts knows all of the Roles, and if he's as Forth Coming as Scratch, then it's as simple as asking.
  2160.  
  2161. As it stands, it seems that the best course of action here is to have everyone get the tiger while you and Gecky try to get El Ninja Monkey to back out of it.
  2162.  
  2163. Of course, Legendary is still a problem, but keeping him out of the loop [i]should[/i] be simple enough.
  2164.  
  2165. And about the Red Session. Should we initiate contact and push them in the right direction like you've done with the Alphas?[/QUOTE]
  2166. The Red Session is composed entirely of people from the Wildcards list, potential traitors, aA and a guy called insanityIncarnate. They're almost definitely not friendly.
  2167.  
  2168. Also, besides revealing that he intends to cheat and hoping Doc Scratch does something about him, I've thought of a potential third option for dealing with Monkey: aA said that the only way to get rid of another player is to make them want to stop playing (hee hee). I've got the ability to weaponize despair, and ostensibly so do you. Maybe we can use our powers to kill him or otherwise remove him from the game?
  2169.  
  2170. ================================================================================
  2171. From : Godbot
  2172. To : MegaRock35
  2173. Date : 2012-02-13 12:27
  2174. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  2175. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2176. [quote=Godbot][QUOTE=Ranter]Did I ever tell you what Aa said about the knight class?[/QUOTE]
  2177. No.[/QUOTE]
  2178.  
  2179. [QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=Ranter][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=Ranter][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=Ranter]:)
  2180. :)
  2181. :)
  2182.  
  2183. I wonder if you might be so kind as to tell me a bit about our brave knights?
  2184. What sorts of abilities to the Knight of Hope and Doom have?[/QUOTE]
  2185.  
  2186. [SPOILER]I thought you of all people would be able to figure that out!
  2187.  
  2188. They use Hope and Doom as weapons. What that means is up to them to decide![/SPOILER][/QUOTE]
  2189.  
  2190. Oh? So if they have weapons, does that mean that fighting mortal players is a possiblility?[/QUOTE]
  2191.  
  2192. [SPOILER]I suppose it is!
  2193.  
  2194. But how would they go about doing that, I wonder? :bemused:[/SPOILER][/QUOTE]
  2195.  
  2196. Don't you know?
  2197. I Hope you'll tell me.[/QUOTE]
  2198.  
  2199. [SPOILER]To be perfectly honest, I don't!
  2200.  
  2201. As I've stated many times, how people use their Aspects is up to them to decide![/SPOILER][/QUOTE]
  2202.  
  2203. ================================================================================
  2204. From : Godbot
  2205. To : MegaRock35
  2206. Date : 2012-02-13 12:50
  2207. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  2208. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2209. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]Yes, this seems to validate that idea. Though I've not actually used my powers yet, so I guess it's time to learn. I'll also be contacting our Other Excellent Host to see what he can tell me.[/QUOTE]
  2210. It's possible that if we reveal to Doc Scratch that Monkey wants to betray him, he'll tell us more about how to kill Monkey. Thoughts?
  2211.  
  2212. ================================================================================
  2213. From : Godbot
  2214. To : MegaRock35
  2215. Date : 2012-02-13 12:55
  2216. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  2217. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2218. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=MegaRock35]Yes, this seems to validate that idea. Though I've not actually used my powers yet, so I guess it's time to learn. I'll also be contacting our Other Excellent Host to see what he can tell me.[/QUOTE]
  2219. It's possible that if we reveal to Doc Scratch that Monkey wants to betray him, he'll tell us more about how to kill Monkey. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]
  2220. My only reservation is that he may decide to make things more interesting and tell Monkey that we can't be trusted. However, we won't get anywhere if we don't know what we're doing, so we may just have to take this risk.[/QUOTE]
  2221. I was thinking of waiting for retroScavenger, the Seer of Light, to tell us more about what the ideal course of action here would be.
  2222.  
  2223. ================================================================================
  2224. From : Godbot
  2225. To : MegaRock35
  2226. Date : 2012-02-13 13:04
  2227. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  2228. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2229. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]Hmm, yes, if anyone would know s/he would.
  2230.  
  2231. In the meantime, I'm only just now catching up to the main thread. What in the hell is Schazer doing, and how did she manage to pick apart the game?[/QUOTE]
  2232. She managed to pick apart the game by being much smarter than us.
  2233.  
  2234. I was looking forward to having her and having fun playing this game and doing what I thought was a good job, but she's shown us up and done in a couple hours what none of us could do in days, so now I'm just pissed. At this point, I'd rather have nothing to do with her.
  2235.  
  2236. ================================================================================
  2237. From : Godbot
  2238. To : MegaRock35
  2239. Date : 2012-02-13 13:11
  2240. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  2241. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2242. I think what it's saying is...
  2243.  
  2244. There are riddles, which have answers.
  2245. All riddles have one Answer.
  2246.  
  2247. There are Riddles, which have Answers.
  2248. All Riddles have one answer.
  2249.  
  2250. I guess we have to define what a riddle, a Riddle, an answer, and an Answer are.
  2251.  
  2252. ================================================================================
  2253. From : Godbot
  2254. To : MegaRock35
  2255. Date : 2012-02-13 13:16
  2256. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  2257. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2258. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=Godbot]I think what it's saying is...
  2259.  
  2260. There are riddles, which have answers.
  2261. All riddles have one Answer.
  2262.  
  2263. There are Riddles, which have Answers.
  2264. All Riddles have one answer.
  2265.  
  2266. I guess we have to define what a riddle, a Riddle, an answer, and an Answer are.[/QUOTE]
  2267. Hmm... I don't know. There seems to be a lot of arbitrary capitalizing going on here. Ever notice that aA always says Hope, and never hope?[/QUOTE]
  2268. I haven't noticed that, no.
  2269.  
  2270. I'm going through the PMs again and seeing what he says about Riddles and riddles.
  2271.  
  2272. ================================================================================
  2273. From : Godbot
  2274. To : MegaRock35
  2275. Date : 2012-02-13 13:18
  2276. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  2277. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2278. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]I remember when I solved the Riddle. It was Hope and Truth. Wouldn't it follow that the RIDDLE is HOPE and TRUTH?[/QUOTE]
  2279. When has anyone ever mentioned the RIDDLE?
  2280.  
  2281. ================================================================================
  2282. From : Godbot
  2283. To : MegaRock35
  2284. Date : 2012-02-13 13:38
  2285. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  2286. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2287. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=ardentApathy][QUOTE=MegaRock35][quote=ardentApathy]What is HIVEBENT?[/quote]
  2288.  
  2289. [QUOTE=ardentApathy;6070444][B]Q:[/B] What is this?
  2290. [B]A:[/B] This is a riddle. It is also the Riddle.
  2291. [/QUOTE]
  2292.  
  2293. [quote=Andrew Hussie]"The thing is, Homestuck is both a story and a puzzle, by design and by definition. If asked to define it, “a story that’s also a puzzle” is as close to true as any answer I’d give."[/quote]
  2294.  
  2295. HIVEBENT is all of these. It is also Truth. It is also Hope.[/QUOTE]
  2296.  
  2297. Congratulations.
  2298.  
  2299. You have solved the Riddle.
  2300.  
  2301. But you still have yet to solve the RIDDLE.
  2302.  
  2303. But I'm sure you'll keep trying. That's what you do, isn't it?
  2304.  
  2305. (heehee)[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
  2306. God, I'm lost.
  2307.  
  2308. This wouldn't be so hard to focus on if Schazer pulling this all off in an evening wasn't hanging over my head. :/
  2309.  
  2310. ================================================================================
  2311. From : Godbot
  2312. To : MegaRock35
  2313. Date : 2012-02-13 13:42
  2314. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  2315. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2316. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]I know, but I think I've got it.
  2317. [QUOTE=Schazer;6078363]Judging by the sound of it, you'd be surprised how much I do [B]know[/B]. Or [B]Know[/B]. Or [B]KNOW[/B], for that matter.
  2318. [/QUOTE]
  2319. I solved the Riddle as soon as I stopped trying to figure out any hidden meanings. The answer was on the first page the whole time. It's not a fustercluck like I originally thought. It's a matter of taking what's given to you and putting it to use. Gentleman, I believe we have solved HOMESTUCK.[/QUOTE]
  2320. I don't know anymore.
  2321.  
  2322. And I don't want Schazer's help. I'm just pissed off.
  2323.  
  2324. ================================================================================
  2325. From : Godbot
  2326. To : MegaRock35
  2327. Date : 2012-02-13 13:55
  2328. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  2329. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2330. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=Godbot]I don't know anymore.
  2331.  
  2332. And I don't want Schazer's help. I'm just pissed off.[/QUOTE]
  2333. I know. Princess of Heart. It's so fitting. She destroyed are heart. We're all disheartened.
  2334.  
  2335. We put forth so much effort to solve it, and someone swoops in and solves it, just picking the mind of a few players. And the worst part is? She did it right in front us, and we [i]still[/i] don't know the answer. It's just so embarrassing.
  2336.  
  2337. At this point, even if we do solve it, it'll still feel like a loss.[/QUOTE]
  2338. I can't count how many PMs I've written her saying that I don't want to work together, or how angry I am at her or at myself how depressed this whole thing's gotten me.
  2339.  
  2340. I wish she'd never done any of this. I felt like I was doing a good job for once.
  2341.  
  2342. ================================================================================
  2343. From : Godbot
  2344. To : MegaRock35
  2345. Date : 2012-02-13 14:04
  2346. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  2347. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2348. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=Godbot][QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=Godbot]I don't know anymore.
  2349.  
  2350. And I don't want Schazer's help. I'm just pissed off.[/QUOTE]
  2351. I know. Princess of Heart. It's so fitting. She destroyed are heart. We're all disheartened.
  2352.  
  2353. We put forth so much effort to solve it, and someone swoops in and solves it, just picking the mind of a few players. And the worst part is? She did it right in front us, and we [i]still[/i] don't know the answer. It's just so embarrassing.
  2354.  
  2355. At this point, even if we do solve it, it'll still feel like a loss.[/QUOTE]
  2356. I can't count how many PMs I've written her saying that I don't want to work together, or how angry I am at her or at myself how depressed this whole thing's gotten me.
  2357.  
  2358. I wish she'd never done any of this. I felt like I was doing a good job for once.[/QUOTE]
  2359. As you told the Alphas: "Don't despair." It's humiliating, yeah, but it's just a game. And really, I honestly I am less made at her than at aA. I'm writing something to him as we speak about why I think he was wrong. I'll forward it to you when I'm done, and the other players, as well, and you can voice your opinions on the matter.[/QUOTE]
  2360. All right.
  2361.  
  2362. ================================================================================
  2363. From : Godbot
  2364. To : MegaRock35
  2365. Date : 2012-02-13 14:16
  2366. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  2367. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2368. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]Forwarding so you all can voice your opinions as well.[/QUOTE]
  2369. I hope this wasn't a mistake.
  2370.  
  2371. ================================================================================
  2372. From : Ranter
  2373. To : MegaRock35
  2374. Date : 2012-02-13 14:17
  2375. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  2376. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2377. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=MegaRock35]I don't think you've given us a fair deal. I feel that you may have gone back on your word. More than once, even.
  2378.  
  2379. For one thing, you contradict yourself.
  2380.  
  2381. [QUOTE=ardentApathy;6070444][B]Q:[/B] How do I play?
  2382. [B]A:[/B] Simply post here or message me expressing an interest to join. Only four people may play [I]in a given session[/I] at any one time. There may be up to two sessions running concurrently. [U]The first person to join a session will have a special role: only they can submit answers.[/U] They will also receive fewer clues than everyone else, but their clues will be more important to solving the ultimate riddle, as well as the Riddle.[/QUOTE]
  2383.  
  2384. [QUOTE=ardentApathy;6070444][B]A:[/B] A[U]nyone may answer any question they choose, in any manner they choose.[/U] However, the strength of an answer varies proportionally with the number of people who agree with it.[/QUOTE]
  2385.  
  2386. [QUOTE=ardentApathy;6070444][B]Q: [/B]Are you just making this up as you go along?
  2387. [B]A:[/B] Everything has been predetermined. I don't expect that will change in the future, either. [U]And I DEFINITELY won't change the game on you while you're still playing.[/U][/QUOTE]
  2388.  
  2389. This is untrue. You added an extra session not once, but twice, and both times, that game had already started. In addition, you allowed a solo player to win the game without having been a player in the first place. And while you may have decided to make her a player, which is understandable, you a.) informed no one of the change until it was already too late b.) you seem to have allowed her to become a player [b][i]after she had already found out about what was going on and knew insider information.[/i][/b] I don't know about you, but that sounds like cheating to me.
  2390.  
  2391. Now, don't get me wrong, I loved this game. It was fun, it was exciting, it allowed me to make friends, and it distracted me from the update hiatus. And I don't think you should "revoke" Schazer's win, either. What she did was amazing, and she deserves to be honored for it. I even plan to see this through until I solve it once and for all. (If I haven't already.)
  2392.  
  2393. But it's a hollow victory now. All of us-- who've worked so hard, who've overcome the complications of our discussions being compromised, the Betrayer, and even a second Traitor that even [i]you[/i] didn't know about-- we're humiliated and shamed by an outsider who did what took us hours of cooperation and brainstorming in the course of one night. I tell you this as a friend, and as constructive criticism, so that should you ever start another project such as this, it can be even grander than HOMESTUCK:
  2394.  
  2395. You've dashed our HOPES, and the TRUTH has escaped us.
  2396.  
  2397. Sincerely,
  2398. ~Mega[/QUOTE]
  2399. Forwarding so you all can voice your opinions as well.[/QUOTE]
  2400.  
  2401. Why can't you just have fun with it?
  2402.  
  2403. ================================================================================
  2404. From : Godbot
  2405. To : MegaRock35
  2406. Date : 2012-02-13 14:20
  2407. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  2408. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2409. I don't know if she was cheating, though. She might've just been better than us.
  2410.  
  2411. ================================================================================
  2412. From : PlumFinder
  2413. To : MegaRock35
  2414. Date : 2012-02-13 14:37
  2415. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  2416. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2417. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT?
  2418.  
  2419. ================================================================================
  2420. From : PlumFinder
  2421. To : MegaRock35
  2422. Date : 2012-02-13 14:45
  2423. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  2424. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2425. I hope that wasn't due to my response. It was a bit uncalled for, but I'm getting really annoyed at this thing. Everybody seems to be in on something I'm not, and that is getting very frustrating. As far as I know, the entire 'Let's play HOMESTUCK' game, is only the one thread in the Games subforum, but somehow, everyone seems to be doing all kinds of other stuff that does not happen there.
  2426. And I would like a straight answer for once. I can hardly give an opinion on what you are saying if I'm constantly in the dark over this game.
  2427.  
  2428. ================================================================================
  2429. From : problemProtagonist
  2430. To : MegaRock35
  2431. Date : 2012-02-13 14:47
  2432. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  2433. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2434. Yeah, I agree with everything you've said.
  2435.  
  2436. I feel obligated to point out that I have no intention of quitting.
  2437.  
  2438. Are you still with me?
  2439.  
  2440. ================================================================================
  2441. From : PlumFinder
  2442. To : MegaRock35
  2443. Date : 2012-02-13 14:48
  2444. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  2445. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2446. Yeah, I'm sorry. As I said, I'm getting really frustrated with this game, but I should've thought before airing it like that.
  2447. You have my deepest apologies.
  2448.  
  2449. ================================================================================
  2450. From : Ranter
  2451. To : MegaRock35
  2452. Date : 2012-02-13 14:49
  2453. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  2454. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2455. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=Ranter]Why can't you just have fun with it?[/QUOTE]
  2456. It's not so much that I lost, it's the fact that he changed it on the fly, despite explicitly saying he wouldn't. I'm sorry, I'm not trying to ruin anybody's fun, and I'm certainly not trying to make him shut the game down. I just needed to say something. (Plus it keeps Godbot off Schazer's back. I don't really think it was her fault at all)[/QUOTE]
  2457. I know Godbot was somewhat harsh, but he doesn't mean it that way at all! He's just trying to understand, like we all are. I know for certain that he doesn't blame her, but all of us are playing parts now, he just wants to know to what end.
  2458.  
  2459. In any case, I don't blame Aa for changing the rules as the game went on either. I feel like he kind of had to because we were testing our limits so far.
  2460. In fact, I don't see this game of HOMESTUCK as the final version, even. I see this as the debugging game. I fully expect there to be a HOMESTUCK V2 after this ends, and it will be much better and more organized, I hope!
  2461.  
  2462. ================================================================================
  2463. From : MasterBlade
  2464. To : MegaRock35
  2465. Date : 2012-02-13 14:51
  2466. Title : Re: I'm a Bit Concerned
  2467. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2468. [QUOTE=MegaRock35][QUOTE=MegaRock35]Forwarding so you all can voice your opinions as well.[/QUOTE]
  2469. Let me reiterate: This is not an attack on aA, please don't flame or rage at him. I also don't plan on having the game shut down for those of you who just started, either. Please be civil, folks. You can keep playing. It's not over, it's not the end of the world. But I feel I must tell him how I feel about this, if for no other reason than to give him advice for any similar undertaking in the future. Thank you.[/QUOTE]
  2470.  
  2471. I would be offended by the win if not for the nature of the game that noone knows what the hell is going on at any given time. If he's continuing for everyone else, I have no qualms. If Shazer's win means we can no longer continue, then yes I have a problem with that.
  2472.  
  2473. ================================================================================
  2474. From : Godbot
  2475. To : MegaRock35
  2476. Date : 2012-02-13 17:04
  2477. Title : Re: El Ninja Monkey
  2478. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2479. We lucked out. Retro logged in before aA did, and I got him (her?) to use his Seer of Light powers to ask about the ideal way of defeating ElNinjaMonkey, given that we've got Knights of Hope, Doom and Void.
  2480.  
  2481. Should I also PM aA the chatlog saying that El's planning to betray him, as an extra incentive?
  2482.  
  2483. ================================================================================
  2484. From : Ranter
  2485. To : MegaRock35
  2486. Date : 2012-02-14 13:14
  2487. Title : Re: Roles
  2488. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2489. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]I may have to utilize my Aspect before long. As a Knight of Doom, I weaponize Doom in combat. Thing is...
  2490.  
  2491. I don't know how to do that. As our resident Role expert, and because you and your teammates have used your powers in the past, I figured you'd be the person to go to for help.[/QUOTE]
  2492.  
  2493. The funny thing about the roles is that you really do decide for yourself what they mean. I think it's different for everyone.
  2494. I'm a huge fan of roleplay and going all out, so when I was named the Host of Hope, I started giving Aa riddles, wanting to bring myself up to his level as a Host, that sort of thing.
  2495. If I had been a Knight, I would have challenged him personally by way of roleplay. Maybe, I would have added a gimmick, like *stab* *stab* at the end of my every message to him.
  2496. But you aren't me and I'm not a Knight and GodBot disagrees.
  2497. :)
  2498. I've talked to him about this, and public challenges aren't the sort of thing that he would do at all.
  2499.  
  2500. But there are other things...
  2501. You could twist Aa's words, play on his weakness. That could be your weapon.
  2502. Taunt him about how inactive he's been lately, ask him if he's scared, call him a coward.
  2503. When he's complains on the HOMESTUCK thread, which is something he's been known to do,
  2504. play up the amount of doom he must be feeling.
  2505. Use the word "Doom" alot.
  2506.  
  2507. I don't know! I'm just making suggestions!
  2508. You should ask Godbot what he's doing, though.
  2509.  
  2510. ================================================================================
  2511. From : Ranter
  2512. To : MegaRock35
  2513. Date : 2012-02-14 14:40
  2514. Title : Re: Roles
  2515. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  2516. [QUOTE=MegaRock35]I actually have challenged him directly a couple times. (When I had an exchange like [url=http://mspaforums.com/showthread.php?45820-Let-s-Play-HOMESTUCK&p=6078411&viewfull=1#post6078411]this[/url] via PM, my response was "Bring it on," though he was able to turn it around on me by realizing I didn't know what I would actually [i]do[/i])
  2517.  
  2518. Though in this, case the target isn't aA. I was actually hoping that I could somehow use my abilities on the Betrayer, and possibly take him out of the picture. Maybe Legend, if it came to it. In a correspondence that I've lost in my sea of PMs, he expressed that it may, in fact, be possible to remove a God Tiered player in this way. Though I could just be rembering wrong.
  2519.  
  2520. Anyway, thanks for your help! I guess this is just something I have to figure out for myself.[/QUOTE]
  2521.  
  2522. 3: Sorry, I wish I could be more help.
  2523. Maybe when Aa gets back, things will be clearer. -_-
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