hype and plot stuff

15:38	StarMechV	for starters I was thinking, since I made Jeanne more of a character now. I'm wondering where i'd introduce her
15:38	StarMechV	I still assume Roz should have some time before that, building her to have her store and a bigger bond with her friends, but still, I wonder if I could introduce her a little earlier than i originally thought
15:41	Adri_66215	did you have anything in mind regarding that?
15:43	StarMechV	well  probably wonder if maybe introduce her before roz's second arc
15:43	StarMechV	so when its time to venture into Roz's mind and soul is not just the likes of kalas and/or Xelha and/or others
15:44	StarMechV	plus it's act as a great side-arc to for Jeanne herself. Specially when she has a mini-breakdown as the fact she had grew apart from roz for a while hits her
15:44	Adri_66215	ah
15:48	StarMechV	also i iamgine a nice scene with JEanne thanking Kalas for being at Roz's side when she needed it
15:51	Adri_66215	aww
15:58	StarMechV	while im still not sure if keep the amnesia first plot, I still think the journey into roz's heart idea is gonna happen
15:58	StarMechV	so why not spruce it up a bit?
15:59	Adri_66215	yeah
15:59		Adri_66215 likes the idea
16:01	StarMechV	another idea I had
16:01	Adri_66215	hm?
16:01	StarMechV	I had an idea of giving Jeanne a super form like I did wth Roz
16:01	Adri_66215	ah
16:01	StarMechV	well she has power over earth and nature, why not make the ower be able to bend into a big armor for her
16:02	Adri_66215	neat
16:03		Adri_66215 admittedly imagined nothing but leaves, but that's a bit risque
16:04	StarMechV	tempting, but nah
16:04	StarMechV	mostly cause I feel the theme of protection kidna suits her
16:04	StarMechV	heck, thanks to you thinking of the nature powers I have the best name for it
16:05	StarMechV	Jeanne Chroma - Mother Gaia Form
16:05	Adri_66215	yaay
16:07	StarMechV	Also was trying to think of cool scenes/moments in general for her
16:08	StarMechV	mabe too much KLK in a row helpsme trying to think of hype in general XD
16:08	Adri_66215	lol
16:10	StarMechV	btw did you think of a name for the crazy king villain yet?
16:11	Adri_66215	I did
16:11		Adri_66215 mentioned it before
16:12	StarMechV	i must have forgotten sorry
16:13	Adri_66215	it's okay
16:13	Adri_66215	Dalton, btw
16:13	Adri_66215	another Chrono Trigger shoutout
16:17	StarMechV	why chrono trigger?
16:19	Adri_66215	because some of the people who made CT (and it's sequel) also made BK
16:20	StarMechV	oh i see
16:20	Adri_66215	that's also how I came up with Nadia's name
16:21	Adri_66215	in the game she was otherwise just the Ice Queen/Xelha's mom
16:22	StarMechV	ah
16:25	StarMechV	damn i just had an idea for a great hype scene but i guess it'd be long
16:25	StarMechV	and im too lazy to write it in paste
16:25	Adri_66215	what's that?
16:27	StarMechV	i dunno wha you have in mind, but I'll assume a imaginary scenario: King Dalton taking over the castle, people trapped, Xelha captured, Kayal held down and somewhat wounded as he personally wants to deal the killing blow to the man that "ruined everything" to him (cause I iamgine Dalton is THAT petty)...
16:28	StarMechV	he is about to strike, when suddenly....BIG STONE FIST SPROUTING FROM THE GROUND AND UPPERCUTS HIM!
16:28	Adri_66215	SHORYUKEN
16:29	StarMechV	from the hole, Jeanne Rozalin and Kalas leaping out, having escaped their own capture
16:29	Adri_66215	big damn heroes they are
16:32	StarMechV	Dalton: You miserable maggots!!! -Jeanne: you foul man. We won't let you get away with this. -Dalton: Annoying harlot...you won't deprive me of my deserved revenge...
16:33	StarMechV	-Jeanne: *standing in front of everyone with a determined look* Hurtng everyone to get your way...you only desire to endulge yourself rather than protecting and nutring your people...I won't stay and let you hurt this beautiful world! But most of all...I'll gladly put myself at risk...If it means protecting the Man I have grown to Love!! We WILL stop you!!!
16:33		Adri_66215 likes this
16:35	StarMechV	(as a small moment of levity) -Rozali: *behind her while still combat ready* Hehe, wow Mom, you really went all out on that. I guess you really wanted to sound badass in front of Mr. Kayal -Jeanne: *blushing going briefly back into shy woman mode* I-i w-wasn't really I...um just came out like that!
16:36	StarMechV	Rozalin: *smirks* Nah, it's fine. That was so cool!
16:36	StarMechV	just came to mind mind, that's all
16:38	Adri_66215	it's fine, I like the idea
16:38	Adri_66215	though I imagine Dalton might've taken over the castle for a long while before this
16:38	StarMechV	I still assume the big final confrontation'd mostly be focused on kalas and xelha, but just thought i could give Jeanne a moment
16:38	StarMechV	as I'd imagine her and Kayal growing close would be building and lead into this too
16:39	Adri_66215	yeah
16:39		Adri_66215 thinks all of them would have a part in this
16:39	StarMechV	yes
16:40	StarMechV	well roz a bit being on the back. while a big support, i don't feel it's much of a big emotional turnpoint for her character
16:40	StarMechV	more like a solidification of it
16:40	Adri_66215	yeah
16:43	StarMechV	i am curious if you'd still be suign stuff of your original Wiseman plot
16:43		Adri_66215 is, but is considering making some changes
16:43	StarMechV	would it still involve summoning a big dragon? or you'd save that for wiseman
16:44	StarMechV	cause I remembered another hype scene I once told you involving characters of mine as well
16:44	Adri_66215	I am keeping the dragon, yes
16:44	Adri_66215	but what scene?
16:46	StarMechV	heaby weight battle
16:46	StarMechV	dark dragon vs Giant Clank
16:46	Adri_66215	oh yeah
16:48		Adri_66215 has been thinking a little on the Wiseman plot itself, btw
16:48	StarMechV	hm?
16:48	Adri_66215	it's mostly in regards to the Dark Brethren
16:48	StarMechV	do tell
16:49	Adri_66215	I know the initial idea was to have a sort of team-up, but Wiseman and the Dark Brethren are complete opposites in that regard
16:50	StarMechV	ah
16:50	Adri_66215	I was thinking instead making it like World of Light
16:50	StarMechV	?
16:51	Adri_66215	a Galeem vs. Dharkon situation
16:51	StarMechV	just in this case its Dark vs Dark
16:52	Adri_66215	well, more like Wiseman continuing to create what he calls a "perfect world" where everyone's souls are freed from their bodies (minus the whole puppet fighter thing), and the Dark Brethren breaking free of their dimensional prison again and continuing to wreak havoc
17:01	StarMechV	Absolute Order vs Absolute Chaos
17:01	Adri_66215	basically
17:01	StarMechV	i like it
17:01	Adri_66215	and the heroes telling them both to screw off
17:08	StarMechV	i like it
17:09	StarMechV	can't help but imagine in either of these plotlines kalas and xelha not getting some badass moments
17:09	Adri_66215	what do you mean?
17:11	StarMechV	i mean that it sounds like they'd have some hype moments and wish i knew some
17:11	Adri_66215	oh yeah
17:11		Adri_66215 thought you said they wouldn't
17:15	StarMechV	must have phrased it wrong
17:15	Adri_66215	or typod
17:17	StarMechV	wut
17:18	Adri_66215	*typo'd
17:19	StarMechV	anything you could particularly share you'd have in mind'
17:19	StarMechV	?*
17:19	StarMechV	can't really make hype myself cause i know so little about Baten Kaito
17:19	StarMechV	Kaitos*
17:19	Adri_66215	hm...
17:20	Adri_66215	well, not so hype, but also going back on Dalton, I thought of something of a Nice Job Breaking It Hero moment that would lead into the plot
17:22	StarMechV	hm?
17:22	Adri_66215	so you know how I said Dalton would've found something that would've given him that soul-releasing spell, right?
17:24	StarMechV	yup
17:26	Adri_66215	well, the thing in question is a walking cane that he uses as a scepter, something that belonged to a major villain that Wiseman possessed at the end
17:26	StarMechV	uh huh
17:26	Adri_66215	after his defeat, that cane was left behind and it was assumed Wiseman was gone for good, but my idea is that he's actually in the cane
17:29	Adri_66215	so my idea is that, once they figure out that the cane is the source of that power, Kalas, after fighting against the power in it, breaks the cane in an attempt to get rid of it for good
17:30	StarMechV	what goes wrong?
17:31	Adri_66215	basically, Kalas unwittingly sets Wiseman free
17:34	StarMechV	ooooh
17:36	Adri_66215	like, it wouldn't be known right away (he's basically invisible and unable to be sensed), but he's got some free hearts to devour
17:36	Adri_66215	starting with Dalton
17:38	StarMechV	basically dalton survived whatever last battle he had against the heroes, but then was devoured by wiseman?
17:39	Adri_66215	it was one idea
17:39	Adri_66215	the other was his own heart being released the minute the cane breaks
17:40	StarMechV	seems good
17:41	StarMechV	also a possibility
17:41	StarMechV	man both are coo ways to go
17:41	Adri_66215	indeed
17:45	StarMechV	cant decide
17:46	Adri_66215	I'm kinda leaning on the former
17:46	Adri_66215	mostly cuz I have the thought of Dalton left beaten and humiliated, swearing revenge...and then...
17:46	Adri_66215	"What comfort...malice and vengeance bring..."
17:47	StarMechV	oooh
17:47	StarMechV	okay im sold
17:47	Adri_66215	yay
17:48	StarMechV	thats goosebump inducin
17:49	StarMechV	like him manifesing right behind his shadow
17:49	Adri_66215	more like it's just his voice
17:50	StarMechV	oooh
17:52	Adri_66215	like, he hears the voice, looks back and forth in panic...and then he winds up meeting the same fate he put upon the same people that tried to defy him
17:52	StarMechV	hoo boy
17:53	Adri_66215	karma's a bitch
17:54	StarMechV	up
17:56	StarMechV	how does the dark breathen get out tho?
17:56	Adri_66215	that one I haven't thought into yet
17:57	Adri_66215	other than Convergence weakening the dimensional walls or something like that
18:04	StarMechV	i guess, but i still feel something should still act as the trigger
18:05	Adri_66215	I know
18:05	Adri_66215	I just dunno what except the chaos breaking out over this
18:09	StarMechV	im sure you'll figure out something
18:12	Adri_66215	yeah