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- [Wed Jan 18 2017 20:56:19] <8mod> I have to thank you wwww. You and nana are really letting me discover lots of great music. I didn't know a lot of nice pieces you both posted
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 20:57:31] <wwww> Always a lot of circles to discover, both going forward and from looking into the past.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 20:57:44] <wwww> Haven't yet heard much from nana, but I'm looking forward to it.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 20:58:55] <8mod> You know, reading the comments under this video brought something up in my mind - I am afraid of when ZUN will stop doing Touhou.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 20:59:26] <8mod> I am relatively new to all this, and I don't wanna see it end anytime.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 20:59:37] <8mod> But it'll happen of course.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:01:24] <wwww> Eventually, of course. ZUN is the central figure behind it all, but I doubt the momentum will stop immediately, even with him gone, due to whatever circumstances.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:02:26] <wwww> Wishful thinking, maybe, but the ball will keep rolling for quite some time.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:03:27] <8mod> Yeah. I think that I'm not exaggerating when I say that Touhou fanbase is one of the most active fanbases ever.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:03:59] <8mod> I mean only all the musical arrangements... Without talking of all the fanart, mangas, and even fananime
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:04:22] <8mod> Touhou has crossovers with almost anything I think.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:05:07] <8mod> And it has it's own exposition - the Reitaisai.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:05:24] <wwww> Clownpiece sprite for Space Station 13 days after LoLK's release - yeah.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:05:38] <wwww> Crossovers - sure enough, but I think there are other, bigger (western) fandoms that are more self-contained than Touhou.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:06:41] <wwww> A calm version of Last Occultism - what a joy.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:07:22] <8mod> This really sound like something that the Primsrivers would play. I can imagine them playing it, maybe in the Netherworld.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:07:26] <8mod> Peace.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:11:43] <8mod> It truly is something else. I mean all Touhou in general. A single man - from Touhou 6 onwards - has created a whole world, by himself.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:11:57] <8mod> Amazing if you think about it
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:12:47] <wwww> And left just enough gaps for others to chime in.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:14:02] <8mod> That's what makes ZUN's work unique. Totally.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:15:03] <8mod> He is the total opposite of the average manga creator - like Oda for example. His canon is extremely detailed.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:15:09] <8mod> ZUN is not.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:22:30] <wwww> Either way you look, the event culture also must have played a pretty big part. A king is not a king without his people.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:23:04] <8mod> Oh absolutely. Without the fans ZUN would've been alone.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:24:38] <wwww> IIRC he's sometime said that he'd still would be working on it, even if itjust for himself.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:24:48] <wwww> even if it's just for himself.*
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:25:09] <wwww> Sorry, a tad too busy for my liking today. Gonna be slow with the replies. Maybe I'll make it soon-ish.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:25:38] <8mod> Well if you like something you don't strictly need others to enjoy it.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:25:50] <8mod> Ah don't worry, it's alright.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:30:18] <wwww> Can't miss Butaotome's Last Occultism, though.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:32:05] <8mod> You know, there was a time last year when I thought Touhou was going down forever. When KanColle exploded.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:32:24] <8mod> I was really afraid it'd make people forget Touhou.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:33:54] <wwww> Since you've mentioned it I'll add one decent arrange from KanColle.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:33:59] <wwww> Not a fan of it either
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:34:19] <wwww> an opinion I've heard was that there's not so much going for it in the long term as with Touhou
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:34:32] <wwww> even simply for arranges.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:35:12] <wwww> I don't remember though, when was KanColle's boom? A year, two or three years ago?
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:35:53] <8mod> Between two and one year ago. It even surpassed Touhou at Comiket.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:36:05] <8mod> Now is slowly going down
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:36:11] <8mod> I'm neutral about KanColle. And yes I think that's the problem. There isn't much about it.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:36:30] <wwww> A chunk of artists switched over to it. I think some of them are slowly switching over to Granblue Fantasy or something else.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:37:10] <8mod> That is something that made me sad. Some good artists switched to it without even ending their Touhou stories.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:37:35] <8mod> Another one that is popular in Japan is Splatoon. Weird, but it's true.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:38:47] <8mod> And lots of them just disappeared. And I'm also talking about music - a circle I really like, TuttiSound, has disappeared from the world.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:38:49] <wwww> <a href="https://i.warosu.org/data/jp/img/0119/01/1392572028345.png" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://i.warosu.org/data/jp/img/0119/01/1392572028345.png</a>
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:39:02] <8mod> Even their site is dead. Damn
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:40:36] <wwww> No updates for a while, but not dead.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:40:36] <wwww> <a href="http://tutti-sound.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://tutti-sound.com/</a>
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:40:44] <wwww> <a href="http://vgmdb.net/org/703" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://vgmdb.net/org/703</a>
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:40:47] <wwww> Staff: NEO
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:40:51] <wwww> <a href="http://vgmdb.net/artist/9376" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://vgmdb.net/artist/9376</a>
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:41:03] <wwww> Last release: KanColle Orchestra Kai
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:41:12] <wwww> RIP
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:41:27] <8mod> Wowowow wait, really?
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:41:41] <8mod> Cankolle... oh no.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:42:01] <8mod> Ah dammit I keep typing it wrong. KanColle.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:42:24] <wwww> Well, he did release something for Tutti Sound in the same year.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:43:24] <wwww> Also, just for sports - if you get the occasion - mention it with a wrong name: Cankolle, Kancolle and I am pretty sure a few people will jump to correct you on 8/jp/.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:44:00] <wwww> As for circles - look for people who are behind them, sometimes it's worth it.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:44:20] <wwww> Some circles from way before did indeed disband, but at the same time
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:44:37] <wwww> Syrufit fell apart and re-formed just recently.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:44:56] <wwww> MachikadoMapoze also disbanded, but the main member went on to create RingingVolcano.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:45:08] <wwww> Ah Jeez, slacking off again.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:45:17] <8mod> Ok this is weird. I swear to god that I've checked their site last month and it was dead. I am super sure.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:45:28] <8mod> I don't know, bah.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:47:59] <wwww> You're right
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:48:01] <wwww> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20161006065832/http://tutti-sound.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://web.archive.org/web/20161006065832/http://tutti-sound.com/</a>
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:48:05] <wwww> looking pretty dead there.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:49:51] <8mod> That's what I mean. I thought they were gone for real.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:49:56] <8mod> Strange huh
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:55:01] <8mod> Ok I've saved the page on the Internet Archive now that is not dead.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:55:05] <8mod> <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20170118215300/http://tutti-sound.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://web.archive.org/web/20170118215300/http://tutti-sound.com/</a>
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:58:55] <wwww> Oh, nice. Note how the archive doesn't have any records for the period between the link from 2016 and your link.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:59:00] <wwww> And quite some time before that.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 21:59:36] <wwww> Think their webserver could've been down for good during that time, before they put up that message about the website being unavailable.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:00:00] <wwww> We'll have to see what the future holds for them.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:00:47] <8mod> Hope to see them alive again. I love their music.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:02:24] <8mod> Ah it says their last work on the blog page - <a href="http://tuttisound.blog.fc2.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://tuttisound.blog.fc2.com/</a>
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:02:37] <8mod> It's indeed a KanColle album.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:03:48] <wwww> Indeed, but in that case it's cross-advertisement, him colaborating with MelodicTaste, and all.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:03:57] <wwww> collaborating
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:04:29] <wwww> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/TuttiSound" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/user/TuttiSound</a> and this is cute, 9 months ago, but cute.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:04:40] <wwww> He's uploaded video of himself composing music in Mabinogi.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:06:10] <8mod> No that's a liked video wwww. The only vid he uploaded is the one in the videos page
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:06:14] <8mod> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/TuttiSound/videos" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/user/TuttiSound/videos</a>
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:06:29] <8mod> Which is a trailer of the channel. Of 5 years ago...
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:07:54] <wwww> note the name of the video he liked - NIGHT NEO
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:08:14] <wwww> and the NIGHT NEO channel has Tutti Sound's logo
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:10:03] <8mod> Aaah you're right.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:10:08] <8mod> Didn't notice it.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:10:18] <wwww> Didn't notice it at first either.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:10:47] <wwww> I didn't like the newer Touhou fighting games, but Hopeless Masquerade's plot was really neat.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:11:20] <8mod> Yes, it is great. Well done
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:11:32] <wwww> Every character's story presents itself as the "true" ending, but the next one immediately debunks that.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:11:51] <wwww> Unreliable narrators are really great.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:14:54] <8mod> You know, ther is a thing I don't understand about YouTube - why doesn't the newer accounts have the top menu, like the old ones?
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:15:09] <8mod> It's only one page with no links.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:15:43] <8mod> Look at tuttisound and neo's channels for comparison.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:18:42] <wwww> No clue, but here's a few ideas:
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:19:39] <wwww> The more likely one - that channel doesn't have anything in the other categories. Or they're not set to be public. Without other areas available it hides the rest of the channel.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:20:05] <wwww> Another idea would be the google+ integration, but that'd work only for the reverse scenario.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:21:00] <8mod> I can assure you that the first one is not true. I have an - empty - yt account and it hasn't that pages. You can't create them as long as I know.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:21:23] <8mod> And I had an older account which had them. So idk.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:21:33] <wwww> Lemme check one of my throwaways.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:22:19] <wwww> Yeah, none of that there either.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:38:22] <8mod> Ok this somehow saddens me. Why is this beautiful piece of music unlisted on YT?
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:39:27] <8mod> And with comments disbled too.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:40:14] <wwww> It's a beautiful one. Can't quite remember what circle it was from.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:42:38] <wwww> It is probably one of these: Carrot Wine, O-LIFE.JP or Assaultdoor
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:43:03] <8mod> I'll look into it, thanks.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:43:34] <8mod> I just like this piece so much. And the picture is perfect with it.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:46:06] <wwww> Yeah. It's a great fit.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:53:33] <8mod> Do you know how I discovered Touhou? With this video.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:54:48] <wwww> For me it was YTMND and MADs or some PV.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:54:53] <wwww> This one's a better story, though.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:55:03] <8mod> The music sounds so bad wew. I downloaded the original so I didn't remember it was this bad...
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:55:11] <8mod> And I still like it very much.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:55:49] <8mod> The original music from the site of the creator, I mean.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:56:05] <8mod> Which is in much better quality.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:56:56] <wwww> Ah. Well, for a 2009 upload it makes sense to have YT compression this bad.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:57:20] <wwww> The talk of audio quality reminds me of a kopipe
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:58:07] <wwww> FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is 'lossy'. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA -
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:58:09] <wwww> it's about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don't want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:58:18] <wwww> I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange…well don’t get me started.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:58:38] <8mod> Poor meiling. I really don't like all this memes on her being lazy.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:58:49] <8mod> Ah I understand yep.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:59:28] <wwww> That's a cute Sakuya accompanying her, though.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 22:59:46] <wwww> Ooooooooh
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:00:56] <8mod> lol.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:02:52] <8mod> Ah you know what, I wanna post the original mp3 of that song. Just to let you hear the difference. And if you want, download it.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:05:32] <8mod> Ah the author is Verynezumi
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:10:15] <8mod> Better eh
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:11:03] <wwwww> Yeah, also from the same guy
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:13:17] <8mod> I like how Remilia's and Flandre's theme are so smooth together in the end there, they are sisters so it matches totally.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:13:18] <wwwww> Can't queue an .swf
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:13:18] <wwwww> <a href="https://danbooru.donmai.us//data/__alice_margatroid_chen_flandre_scarlet_fujiwara_no_mokou_kirisame_marisa_and_others_touhou_drawn_by_verynezumi__6e80d91fdafdb27e416f85de29c4747f.swf" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://danbooru.donmai.us//data/__alice_margatroid_chen_flandre_scarlet_fujiwara_no_mokou_kirisame_marisa_and_others_touhou_drawn_by_verynezumi__6e80d91fdafdb27e416f85de29c4747f.swf</a>
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:13:33] <wwwww> You probably already know it
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:13:58] <8mod> Ah yes I ve seen all of them. There is 4 of them, and that one is the weirdest.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:14:12] <8mod> I was like WTF.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:15:39] <8mod> Of the series, the other one which is good is this one.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:15:48] <8mod> Weird, but good.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:17:15] <wwwww> It's got lots of charm.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:17:28] <8mod> I like the spooky, misterious atmosphere that hangs in his works. And it suits Touhou characters well I think.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:17:51] <8mod> Too often we forget that almost all 2hus used to eat humans.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:18:02] <8mod> And some of them still do it.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:19:27] <wwwww> Not too long saw a discussion about grimdark vs. happy-go-lucky Gensokyo. Didn't really go anywhere, but still.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:20:32] <8mod> I think that the right is in the middle. It iasn't a total nightmare scenario, but it's not a happy moe land either.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:20:55] <8mod> 2hus are nice if you are nice to them. And they are indeed dangerous.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:21:09] <8mod> But they can also be cute and friendly,.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:23:34] <wwwww> Pretty sure for some outsiders are free game. Sumireko was a special case, but it demonstrated it well enough.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:24:14] <wwwww> As for doujinshi, say what you want about Zounose, but he has a sense of humour and good taste.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:24:44] <wwwww> That doujinshi about amputating Sakuya's leg was nice, IMO.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:25:49] <8mod> I somehow missed it damn. Link?
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:27:14] <wwwww> <a href="https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Yakumi_Sarai" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Yakumi_Sarai</a>
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:27:17] <wwwww> Vintage, IIRC
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:28:14] <8mod> Ooh, this one. Yes, I appreciate it too. It's uncommon a view such as his on Touhou.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:28:23] <8mod> And I enjoy the realism in it.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:33:11] <wwwww> I remember a decent Kisume doujinshi too, but that one focused on a tragic story mostly.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:33:32] <wwwww> The flipside is nice too. Here's a fun one. Try to disregard the tags.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:33:34] <wwwww> <a href="https://exhentai.org/g/767607/002b960fcf/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">https://exhentai.org/g/767607/002b960fcf/</a>
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:34:06] <wwwww> If you don't want to log in
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:34:06] <wwwww> <a href="http://g.e-hentai.org/g/767607/002b960fcf/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://g.e-hentai.org/g/767607/002b960fcf/</a>
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:34:45] <8mod> I'm always loggein at sadpanda. Just because I don't wanna do it everytime.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:36:06] <8mod> Some authors has the weirdest humor I swear. And I love it.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:40:06] <wwwww> Yeah.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:40:14] <wwwww> Good night. It's gotten late quickly.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:41:11] <8mod> Night wwww. See ya.
- [Wed Jan 18 2017 23:41:34] <8mod> Well I should go to b ed. Night Dott.
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