>>> Lesta Nediam LNC2016-01-08 0140 +HerstalP90

Lesta Nediam LNC2016-01-08 0140 +HerstalP90
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+HerstalP90 __ Are you seriously saying that you would begin to doubt the "ISS" *if a "sufficient gain for pretending to be in space"* could be successfully communicated to you?

Really?

Don't play games with someone who is much smarter than you. *You are only asking so that you can find fault with anything that is suggested to you.*

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You are asking disingenuously. In order to have a conversation on this *you need to be neutral and unemotional.* You need to be willing to be wrong.

Do you know how many people tell me I am wrong every single day? Do you think I always thought the "ISS" was neither real nor manned?

Do you think I just arrived at this position for fun? Why *do* you think I suggest the "ISS" is neither real nor manned?

Do you think I am just here to waste my time? You don't have to try and answer these questions - they are just rhetorical.

How can we have a discussion if your only position is _*"it's all real"?*_

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Let's try something different. *How about we do a role reversal.* _How about you pretend it's fake and I'll pretend it's real._

Would you try that? _Just for giggles?_

If you tried to convince me it is fake I can point out to you that you are only able to use weak and specious reasoning.

The reason for that is because you are wholly biased. The reason for that is because you are belief controlled.

What that means is: *EVEN IF WE WERE TO FIND OUT FOR A FACT IT IS FAKE YOU ARE UNABLE TO THINK OF IT THAT WAY.*

Do you think belief is a choice? It isn't. That's not how it works for "normal people".

Most people do not have beliefs as a result of sitting down and scrutinising the evidence. It doesn't work that way. Often a person has a feeling about something and then uses their natural intelligence to latch onto reasoning that justifies their feeling.

"Normal people" have beliefs in the same way they have preferences for taste.

Imagine "conspiracy theories" are flavours of pizza. Some flavours are more popular than others. Some are eaten with gusto and delight. Others are simply spat out.

No one eating each pizza really DECIDED which pizza they LIKED to eat. They seemingly CHOSE the pizza but they did not CHOOSE to like it. Do you understand?

You haven't DECIDED to believe that the alleged "ISS" is real. *I know that because there is no way you COULD believe it is real and manned if you had genuinely, sincerely, and honestly scrutinised the available "proof" to the extent that I have.*

We know that some foods do not taste pleasant but they are good for us and that is why we eat them. Some foods taste delicious but we know they are not good for us and so we know to avoid them.

It is the same with beliefs.

Some beliefs are unpleasant. But you were born into a system where you are not encouraged to spend much time thinking about or considering unpleasant beliefs. Isn't that curious? Can you think of any beliefs you have which you vehemently dislike? Is there anything you believe that you detest? Isn't it the case that all of the beliefs from your "culture" are actually rather pleasant to you? Aren't they all rather "easy". Don't they all taste much like a nice and popular pizza?

Belief is not a choice. You have no more chosen to believe the "ISS" is real and manned than you have chosen which pizza you like the taste of. You choose the pizza but you don't choose which flavour is agreeable.

From a menu of pizzas the only choice you make is which one to eat. You never got to choose which flavours you enjoy.

*You are wholly belief controlled.* That is how entire populations are farmed like cattle and crops without people in sufficient numbers even noticing or suspecting or caring.

You can never talk about this issue IF you are NOT EVER willing to consider the possibility you are wrong.

You are not able to discuss this issue unless you are willing to bite into a pizza that you don't think you like. Have you ever tried to get a child to try a new food? It can be a nightmare! It resembles the nightmare I go through every day with people like you.

I am literally trying to get children to try just a spoonful of something different and before they have even so much as licked at the spoon they have scrunched up their face and decided it is most foul!

But like the child - you cannot know before you have even tried it! And once you do you might just find it tastes _*delicious!*_

So how about we do a little taste experiment?

How about we swap pizzas.

*How about you have a go at convincing me that the "ISS" is neither real nor manned and I will have a go at poking holes in your reasoning.*

_Would you try this?_

Do you understand that we live in a world where strangers lie to us? Where people exploit one another? _You do realise that, yes?_

*Or do you think it's "paranoid" to suggest that smaller groups of people would dare to exploit other much larger groups of people?*

Do you think that's the height of "crazy paranoia" to suggest such a thing? Do you think it's "conspiracy thinking" to suggest that the same groups of people who drop bombs on large numbers of children for the "greater good" might also tell lies to large numbers of children (ostensibly for the "greater good")?

Would you be willing - _just for giggles_ - to momentarily reverse the roles? To effectively swap pizzas. *You can have a temporary go at trying to convince me that the alleged "ISS" isn't real or manned and I can have a go at pointing out the flaws in your thinking.*

Or are you terrified of trying a new flavour? Are you fearful that you might find it is delicious? Does it scare you to think that you could get locked up in a mental asylum shouting until you have no voice that the "ISS" isn't real and that the Earth is flat?

In my experience a person with an IQ over about 110 is capable of reversing roles just for giggles. A person with an IQ over 120 can even be quite good at it.

So shall we swap pizzas? Would you like to have a go at trying to convince me that the "ISS" is neither real nor manned? Is it that you would be willing to try it but you don't where to start?

If you are not willing to even try this and if your only position is that, *_"It's real"_* - then why are you bothering to talk here? _What are you trying to accomplish apart from passing the time?_

For most people (i.e., "normal people") *belief in something is not a choice.* You did not *choose* to believe the "ISS" is real. You didn't examine the issue and arrive at that conclusion. You started out with the feeling it exists and everything that has followed has served to reinforce that pleasant belief. That the alleged "ISS" is real and manned is simply the culture's default belief. You were born into it - you never actually chosen it.

Anyway - I'll leave it up to you. Anyone with a genuinely "above average" IQ (i.e., over 115) should have no problem doing this just for a little while and just for giggles. So how about it?


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