[00:24:13 18-03-19] PacoTaco: when discussing coverage it's probably easiest to just use the hours in GMT 0
[00:24:14 18-03-19] JoeyRainstorm: oh and if they're a decent human being that won't tarnish the servers reputation
[00:25:00 18-03-19] Topper: I'm actually not even sure what point you're making soup
[00:25:31 18-03-19] Topper: it seems to be no to lok, because we have to many people in gmt-8, and he isn't?
[00:25:46 18-03-19] Topper: that sounds like an argument for him if anything
[00:26:08 18-03-19] SOUP: The point I'm making is that I work from PCT 8AM - 6PM
[00:26:21 18-03-19] SOUP: Can LoK cover that?
[00:26:41 18-03-19] SOUP: Now I can check things for about an hour during lunch as I usually do.
[00:26:51 18-03-19] SOUP: But after that I don't really get ready to do stuff until 6PM here.
[00:27:57 18-03-19] Topper: well let's see, that's 15:00 - 01:00 gmt, and he's in something like +10, so 01:00 - 11:00
[00:28:06 18-03-19] Topper: so no
[00:28:22 18-03-19] Topper: however 15:00 - 01:00 is exactly when I'm around
[00:28:44 18-03-19] Topper: and indeed paco
[00:29:05 18-03-19] Topper: it's quiet, we don't need more people then
[00:29:21 18-03-19] Topper: until the end, which is when lok would probably be waking up
[00:29:45 18-03-19] Topper: although I don't know about work or schooling or anything of his
[00:30:14 18-03-19] Topper: ego said before that he is around when it is busiest here, and just based on times I think that's likely
[00:32:44 18-03-19] ♫egogoyo ♫ moderator: correct
[00:33:15 18-03-19] SOUP: Okay so after manipulating some code, here's what I got for our respective join dates
[00:33:54 18-03-19] SOUP: ```
  console.log(welsh.joinedAt)
  console.log(lok.joinedAt)
  console.log(weegee.joinedAt)
```

Outputs:
```
2017-11-09T13:54:59.834Z
2017-01-08T11:53:49.834Z
2017-09-29T23:47:35.209Z

```
[00:34:28 18-03-19] SOUP: Which is really surprising to me.
[00:34:32 18-03-19] SOUP: In human speak
[00:34:36 18-03-19] PacoTaco: Of course they might've been kicked when the bot went haywire
[00:34:39 18-03-19] SOUP: Welsh joined at 2017-11-09
[00:34:51 18-03-19] PacoTaco: Or just left and rejoined in general
[00:34:56 18-03-19] SOUP: They all joined recently enough before that event.
[00:35:36 18-03-19] SOUP: That incident happened on July 17th 2017.
[00:35:58 18-03-19] SOUP: If they were affected they would've re-joined a lot sooner.
[00:36:46 18-03-19] SOUP: Anyways that kinda shows my point where LoK isn't as active as I'd like versus some of the other guys.
[00:37:06 18-03-19] SOUP: For reference: Weegee has 4x the number of messages over both LoK and 2x over welsh.
[00:37:42 18-03-19] Topper: good to see that we're back to the pointless numbers from the important ones
[00:37:42 18-03-19] Swedgendary: Quality over quantity. Neither of the other 2 has shown the desire to look out for our server that LOK has shown several times.
[00:37:46 18-03-19] SOUP: I'm really surprised that LoK actually managed to survive.
[00:38:01 18-03-19] Topper: I'm sure he's paying plenty of attention, or at least would if he had a mod role
[00:38:04 18-03-19] SOUP: Topper, it's not meaningless because we need a certain amount of activity to know if they actually care about this server or not.
[00:38:17 18-03-19] Swedgendary: My point^^^
[00:38:30 18-03-19] Topper: I read everything all day and barely say anything
[00:38:43 18-03-19] SOUP: It's actually better that it says barely anything.
[00:38:45 18-03-19] Swedgendary: He has pinged me multiple times, neither of the other has done anything of the sort.
[00:38:53 18-03-19] SOUP: Because if it actually *did* say something that is a problem.
[00:39:01 18-03-19] Topper: huh?
[00:39:06 18-03-19] SOUP: But if it says nothing of concern then that's fine. We expect people to have innocuous messages most of the time.
[00:39:12 18-03-19] Topper: I'm comparing lok's activity level with mine
[00:39:38 18-03-19] ♫egogoyo ♫ moderator: LoK  is quite active here,  posting almost everyday
[00:39:43 18-03-19] Topper: am I not a candidate for mod because I only read without posting?
[00:40:11 18-03-19] Topper: number of messages says nothing about paying attention to the chat
[00:40:20 18-03-19] SOUP: You're in here because you were a mod well before all of this.
[00:40:36 18-03-19] Topper: and lok has similarly proved himself on the forum
[00:40:50 18-03-19] Topper: always helpful, intelligent, etc
[00:41:22 18-03-19] SOUP: Okay so before I approach LoK again, what are our said objections over weegee (besides minor incidents that we don't even remember that well ) and welsh (besides not knowing him enough personally)
[00:41:33 18-03-19] Topper: better to do that than post things like "is it safe to say that btd6 is never coming" like some of weegee's messages
[00:41:39 18-03-19] SOUP: Didn't LoK say he was joining the military soon?
[00:41:55 18-03-19] ♫egogoyo ♫ moderator: no,   that has changed now
[00:41:57 18-03-19] Swedgendary: Weegee is just that one thing for me. Welsh is a matter of not knowing/ not trusting.
[00:42:03 18-03-19] SOUP: He's not joining the military then?
[00:42:07 18-03-19] ♫egogoyo ♫ moderator: this was almost 6 months  ago
[00:42:23 18-03-19] SOUP: That to me was my biggest concern.
[00:42:27 18-03-19] SOUP: Besides his inactivity.
[00:42:48 18-03-19] SOUP: Because if he's going to be shipped off somewhere soon then I can't really promote him. Otherwise I'll inquire him about his future plans.
[00:42:59 18-03-19] ♫egogoyo ♫ moderator: we already decided that LoK  is not "inactive"  here...  so
[00:43:07 18-03-19] Topper: I still emphasise that sending messages does not say anything about paying attention
[00:43:36 18-03-19] SOUP: I understand that but we still would like him to participate sometimes.
[00:43:46 18-03-19] SOUP: Anyways, I'm gonna talk to LoK a bit.
[00:43:53 18-03-19] SOUP: I think he would get me some more clear ideas.
[00:44:17 18-03-19] ♫egogoyo ♫ moderator: I would like to propose that we change the format
[00:44:21 18-03-19] Swedgendary: You have Aaron, Rohan, Joey, Ego, Topper, Paco, Squid and myself saying he is good candidate. Against that you say he doesn't post enough. Doesn't realy stand up, does it?
[00:44:48 18-03-19] ♫egogoyo ♫ moderator: once we decide that a candidate is nominated,   it should not be only  handled  by SOUP alone
[00:44:53 18-03-19] Topper: this is exactly the point that was being talked about before
[00:45:22 18-03-19] ♫egogoyo ♫ moderator: we could make a commity,  to talk to our future candidates
[00:46:18 18-03-19] ♫egogoyo ♫ moderator: this should not be handled by only one moderator anymore
[00:46:55 18-03-19] SOUP: My problem is that I'm not in the server where he does most of his stuff.
[00:47:03 18-03-19] SOUP: That's why I'm hesitating really.
[00:47:10 18-03-19] SOUP: I don't doubt he's a good person.
[00:47:17 18-03-19] Topper: it's not just hesitating, it's ignoring us
[00:47:19 18-03-19] ♫egogoyo ♫ moderator: I don't understand any of your hesitation SOUP...
[00:47:20 18-03-19] SOUP: But will he be able to stay around, and does he care enough is what I am concerned about.
[00:47:45 18-03-19] SOUP: ```
[5:44 PM] SOUP: Hey, do you have a minute?
[5:44 PM] LordofKaon: sure
[5:44 PM] SOUP: Are you still planning to join the military sometime soon?
[5:44 PM] SOUP: I think you mentioned it sometime ago saying you might be off to some training bootcamp sometime in the near future.
[5:45 PM] LordofKaon: its a bit like that Soon TM thing. still working on house renovation here cause i want that to be fixed up for mom b4 i do go.
[5:45 PM] LordofKaon: but yes that is correct
[5:45 PM] SOUP: Hm....
[5:45 PM] SOUP: How soon is soon?
NEW MESSAGES
[5:46 PM] LordofKaon: well if all that doesn't get held up too much more, i should be able to start the application in a few months. at that point there should be a standard 3-6 month recruiting time before i'd actually join - assuming successful application first time
```
[00:47:52 18-03-19] SOUP: So this is what I'm gathering from him so far.
[00:48:07 18-03-19] SOUP: So he is still planning to join.
[00:48:43 18-03-19] SOUP: However he's not sure when.
[00:48:57 18-03-19] SOUP: I gues we could keep him around for about half a year.
[00:49:06 18-03-19] ♫egogoyo ♫ moderator: this is kinda like SOUP saying to me that hSOUP was goin to leave our server...  three months ago
[00:49:16 18-03-19] SOUP: It wasn't this server.
[00:49:19 18-03-19] SOUP: That was the shed.
[00:49:25 18-03-19] ♫egogoyo ♫ moderator: but as you see,  SOUP is still around
[00:49:30 18-03-19] SOUP: Which isn't really an our, as it is mine.
[00:49:44 18-03-19] Swedgendary: lets not get side tracked here
[00:49:44 18-03-19] ♫egogoyo ♫ moderator: things change,  i guess:  right?
[00:50:05 18-03-19] Swedgendary: I believe Soup has almost said he will ask LOK aboard?
[00:50:14 18-03-19] SOUP: From what I can gather here he is still committed to goining but he's not sure when he's going.
[00:50:34 18-03-19] SOUP: I suppose we can try him out anyways.
[00:50:45 18-03-19] SOUP: But I'm still concerned about his ability to stay around.
[00:51:10 18-03-19] Swedgendary: In the meantime maybe we get to know WEelsh a little better too.
[00:51:13 18-03-19] Topper: having him around until then is plenty
[00:51:14 18-03-19] SOUP: Reminder that Fragsauce was virtually never heard from again after he was shipped off to iraq.
[00:51:45 18-03-19] Swedgendary: Cross that bridge....
[00:52:01 18-03-19] SOUP: And that was 7 years ago, mind you.
[00:52:18 18-03-19] SOUP: Note: He did not die. He appeared briefly again for a day in 2017 but then left again for another deployment.
[00:55:13 18-03-19] SOUP: I need to make some preparations.
[00:55:28 18-03-19] SOUP: -w