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- Google Captcha v3 - Opinions
- Any opinions about this?:
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- Hope they won’t detect spun content.
- I wonder what algorithm they are using to detect spam content. Naive Bayes classifier may be? Very interesting from a programming point-of-view. :)
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- I wonder what algorithm they are using to detect spam content. Naive Bayes classifier may be? Very interesting from a programming point-of-view. :)
- Well, at the moment, we don’t know how good the ReCaptcha v3 service is going to be.
- Gonna be interesting though.
- This thing is worse than cancer, it's pure bullshit, they completely fu**** that one up. It's not even anti spam, it's "anti anything by 90% random".
- Why? Well:
- Check out this URL to see your spamscore https://recaptcha-demo.appspot.com/recaptcha-v3-request-scores.php
- Reloaded it a few times and saw how my score dropped.
- Restarted my router to get a fresh and legit IP. Score is up again.
- Reload a few times. Score down.
- Starting chrome in incognito. Score Up, reloading score down.
- Played around with cookies, cache and other browser stuff and it makes no sense at all in relation to bots or spam.
- I would even say that it's a shame for google to put something at this state on the open market. Every other custom coded solution for anti spam would be way better and more reliable.
- Why it's not anti spam but anti doing anything? If reddit would implement it you would not be able to upvote more than 1 post every 10 minutes for a few hours and than not be able anymore for days. Haven't done anything on my PC for 24h and it's still 0.1 for no reason even if everything I do is completely legit.
- This thing is RNG garbage. Asked a captcha solver service and they told me that nearly every of their "workers" have a 0.1 score.
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- maybe you should have read what it says on top?
- "NOTE:This is a sample implementation, the score returned here is not a reflection on your Google account or type of traffic."
- thats probably why its like a RNG ;)
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- maybe you should have read what it says on top?
- "NOTE:This is a sample implementation, the score returned here is not a reflection on your Google account or type of traffic."
- thats probably why its like a RNG ;)
- Yes, it says that. And to have a comparison I also browsed websites which actually implemeted a real usage of v3 and got same results.
- Similar results +- 0.2 so the website is a good representation to try out how it works. It was even worse on real sites, the more I did (naturally) the worse the score got.
- This thing is not able to determine natural behaviour at all, AI isn't even close to be at this point whre it can completely manage such important tasks.
- What I found out is that it relies on:
- - IP (heavily)
- - Cookies (somehow)
- - Cache(somehow)
- I also think that it pretty much uses everything you can get with javascript like screen resolution, language settings, incognito mode, webrtc, useragent, browserversion etc.
- A few years ago I stumbled accros this website http://ip-check.info. Do the test and see the pure horror in what recaptcha v3 can check.
- As long as I don't have to click on the store fronts or stop lights 3 times in a row..
- As long as I don't have to click on the store fronts or stop lights 3 times in a row..
- Depending on your activity it might even be worse because you can do nothing reasonable about it.
- Yes, it says that. And to have a comparison I also browsed websites which actually implemeted a real usage of v3 and got same results.
- Similar results +- 0.2 so the website is a good representation to try out how it works. It was even worse on real sites, the more I did (naturally) the worse the score got.
- This thing is not able to determine natural behaviour at all, AI isn't even close to be at this point whre it can completely manage such important tasks.
- What I found out is that it relies on:
- - IP (heavily)
- - Cookies (somehow)
- - Cache(somehow)
- I also think that it pretty much uses everything you can get with javascript like screen resolution, language settings, incognito mode, webrtc, useragent, browserversion etc.
- A few years ago I stumbled accros this website http://ip-check.info. Do the test and see the pure horror in what recaptcha v3 can check.
- I agree with the IP.
- Would mean that if I send multiple requests to a website (with Google ReCaptcha v3) over a time span of let′s say 10 minutes, they probably gonna lower my rank due to it flagging it as possible spam?
- Btw, as far as I know it′s just more like a "Beta" or at least I haven′t seen many website using the ReCaptcha v3, luckily.
- I agree with the IP.
- Would mean that if I send multiple requests to a website (with Google ReCaptcha v3) over a time span of let′s say 10 minutes, they probably gonna lower my rank due to it flagging it as possible spam?
- Btw, as far as I know it′s just more like a "Beta" or at least I haven′t seen many website using the ReCaptcha v3, luckily.
- Yes, it's a beta but if you stumble across a site that uses is you got a big issue. Personally I wouldn't call this a beta. It feels like an alpha or test build. This shows somehow that you can not expect much from it in the future.
- I voted 5 times , twice per minute and got from 0.7->0.1 and was not able to get back without restarting my router. You might be marked as a spammer very fast. The spam score stayed for all sites, I read an article where google confirms that they cross check between domains.
- There are indeed workarounds but damn, it's going to burn your brain getting ideas because most solutions need to be individual and might even turn out expensive.
- Read a post of a webmaster who implemented recaptcha on a regular site and set the score to 0.2(default 0.5). Still half of his traffic was marked as spam. This thing simply doesn't work.
- Yes, it's a beta but if you stumble across a site that uses is you got a big issue. Personally I wouldn't call this a beta. It feels like an alpha or test build. This shows somehow that you can not expect much from it in the future.
- I voted 5 times , twice per minute and got from 0.7->0.1 and was not able to get back without restarting my router. You might be marked as a spammer very fast. The spam score stayed for all sites, I read an article where google confirms that they cross check between domains.
- There are indeed workarounds but damn, it's going to burn your brain getting ideas because most solutions need to be individual and might even turn out expensive.
- Read a post of a webmaster who implemented recaptcha on a regular site and set the score to 0.2(default 0.5). Still half of his traffic was marked as spam. This thing simply doesn't work.
- Well the captcha itself isn′t the biggest problem, but they also mentioned they are checking reviews/comments or text boxes, where you can enter content in general.
- That′s gonna break some legs if they detect spun content or multiple comments below blogs.
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