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- MSN convo between SammyNSC and Ryan West aka Kosari aka Doonrak aka Silvershift
- Sammy NSC says
- you done with tibia?
- Ryan says
- ot shit is dead
- Sammy NSC says
- indeed
- Ryan says
- no moneys to get
- Sammy NSC says
- how you make money now?
- Ryan says
- social service
- u?
- Sammy NSC says
- working part time
- Ryan says
- work is for nobs
- pa for life
- Sammy NSC says
- depends on what you do in life
- some people like what they do
- Ryan says
- i like
- doing nothing
- Sammy NSC says
- lmao
- Ryan says
- so bored atm
- fking high wtf
- Ryan says
- i still check ur pk movies
- subscribed huehue
- Sammy NSC says
- yeah still play that shit
- haha, i was looking for that roldera youtube channel you made
- disappeared
- Ryan says
- stillt here i think
- youtube.com/user/oldera772
- Sammy NSC says
- there we go
- Sammy NSC says
- when did you get interested in open tibia, and why?
- Ryan says
- 2005 because my best friend was trapped in a hole at rookgard without rope so had to rope em out
- then got stuck in the game
- Sammy NSC says
- what about open tibia server, when you opened your first server, how much did you know about that type of stuff?
- Ryan says
- nothing much, i opened a xml server fast attk speed servers was the trend back then
- i called it doria or w.e. not sure had like 60 steady players
- only online for around 5 hrs a day when i was on my dads pc
- back then nobdoy had dedicated servs and shit
- just all home servs and trying to get on ur favorite serv asap it goes on
- Sammy NSC says
- i see you ran a tibia leveling service, how did that go?
- Ryan says
- recall on that please
- used to have a goldservice not sure what the domain was
- Sammy NSC says
- a nvm, it was some thread u made in like 07 on otfans
- Ryan says
- anyways all goldservice/lvlingservices were scams
- Ryan says
- as they were always paid through daopay
- once i had my servs making money
- i could pay for anything
- a botnet, a hacker, programmers etc
- and was around 15-16 so just wanna be internethero and pulled off a good job i think
- Sammy NSC says
- yeah good times, you spread your botnet thorugh that oldera custom file right?
- Ryan says
- some people i just hated and i would let them know
- nope i actually didnt
- was a false rport on asprate's ipchanger
- which still reports having trojans in it
- cuz of the auto updater
- botnet was growing via warez forums posting so called cracks and purchasing more bots from more experienced herders
- Sammy NSC says
- oh you paid for botnets? you still got any left?
- Ryan says
- yea 100mbps lines have used them a while back
- on oldtibia and some 7.4/7.6 from some gay
- not sure
- realsoft
- but just ddosed him because he noted rules on his website "the law is u dont ddos or i get police on u blabla"
- Sammy NSC says
- yeah was just gonnna ask about him, i remember you ddosing him none stop, well you ddosed many ots. But him in particular
- Ryan says
- yea
- Ryan says
- ddosed tibianic, realots, otland a few times
- etc
- for concurrention but purely for fun
- Sammy NSC says
- yeah i remember, outcast too lol
- Ryan says
- kinda tough to be hero anonymous on internet lols
- yea outcast cuz my cousin plays on it
- boono, hes still getting everything he wants
- Sammy NSC says
- oh yeah i forgot he was your cousin
- about oldera, where did you get the files?
- they are CIP's solft files right?
- Ryan says
- partly yes
- started more at narozia
- there used to be a old otbm released
- without monsters quests and shit, cipsoft's map
- so we began tracking it
- thats how narozia started 900 online average players
- so we got konrad
- converting all the shit
- Sammy NSC says
- whose konrad again?
- Ryan says
- the exe was made by
- remere
- open tibia svn 0.7.3
- konrad owner tibianic
- Ryan says
- i was about starting classicalia with him but some things got in the way
- yes his files are based on my files
- he just perfected everything, props to him though
- Sammy NSC says
- yeah but i mean, how does he get everything right? All the details?
- that cip used in 06
- Ryan says
- partly perfecting himself
- and prolly getting files from one and another
- sim_one from simone's mapeditor owns all files
- toor also from realots
- and remere a part of that
- so one of those gave some files too him
- most likely
- Sammy NSC says
- oh i see
- Ryan says
- that are only real owners of cipsoft files
- as i recall
- but cipsoft files are hard to use raw, we had to convert all npcs for an instance
- as they were in cipsoft's formatting thus not useable out of the box
- Sammy NSC says
- who are the owners of the real files?
- Ryan says
- toor original owner
- dennis
- or well cipsoft is original owner but toor had access to a gameserver back in the days
- when everything loginserv etc was hosted on 1/2 server
- s
- Sammy NSC says
- I think tibianic owner(ironyt) got them too cause dennis gave them to him
- Ryan says
- sim_one signed a legal contract
- not distributing the files though
- Sammy NSC says
- so toor is that infamous GM that used to work for CIP and stole the files from them?
- Ryan says
- most likely via via
- toor has knowledge to actually extract files and such
- infamous gm/or inside guy most likely didnt know shit bout computers
- Sammy NSC says
- i dont follow, toor got it from the guy who worked there?
- Ryan says
- most likely i dont know details
- u must know toor, sim_one, remere
- the regular open tibia svn developers have a lot of files
- Sammy NSC says
- aight, so what about now, you still sell the oldera files?
- Ryan says
- yea sure
- just a lot of people talking lot of shit and not buying
- Sammy NSC says
- yeah well you prolly kno why they skeptical
- Ryan says
- im not forcing or begging for someone to buy
- buying is under my terms and ofc i know about my name
- they are valueable files
- Sammy NSC says
- without a doubt
- Ryan says
- as they are kinda one of the few original servers out in ots
- Sammy NSC says
- so no plans on coming back?
- Ryan says
- no not rly
- i can host for people
- but not really into creating and maintaining server
- as in fixing mapbugs npcs smallbugs etc
- Sammy NSC says
- you still got access to that dedi center in nl?
- free hosting?
- Ryan says
- yea
- colocated
- Sammy NSC says
- 2gb ram dualcore
- 100mbps
- snort software installed that filters connection through to your main dedi incase of ddos
- these specs?
- Ryan says
- yea
- snort used to be on a server filteringall connections
- to main serv
- back in narozia days due lotsa ddosing
- now its software on the mainserv
- blocking some dos scriptkiddie shits
- but if someone wants he can get the serv down
- Sammy NSC says
- indeed, cant stop that shit
- how did you get into all this technical stuff?
- Ryan says
- been into computers since ive been 9 or so
- Sammy NSC says
- i remember you were like 15-16
- and doing all this shit to ppls ots
- Ryan says
- i was 15 yrs old making 100 eur a day
- not good for a child
- i dont value money properly atm
- dont work because i dont feel like cuz i used to get moneys for free
- Sammy NSC says
- from tibia related stuff?
- Ryan says
- yea
- narozia was peak days
- 900 users online a day
- if we did offer we d made 350eur~
- like 50% discount
- all by daopay, when daopay still paid normal payout
- Sammy NSC says
- so you hanged on forums to learn all this stuff or what?
- Ryan says
- yea
- i was 8 hrs a day online
- Sammy NSC says
- hackforums? digital gangsters?
- Ryan says
- 12 yrs straight in weekends
- noooooo never those shit
- just got in touch with specific people
- some russian fellows
- dont do hackkiddie forums its a load of bs
- with only trojans on it
- Ryan says
- they first ddosed narozia
- asking kinda ransom or w.e. u call it
- to not ddos, and it was a big ddos
- Sammy NSC says
- and he started teaching you?
- Ryan says
- we started as a kinda enemy relation
- then i started using his services
- and get more involved etc
- still talk him occasianelly
- Sammy NSC says
- you used to play tyth right?
- Ryan says
- tyth?
- the 7.6 tythorzeth?
- Sammy NSC says
- yah
- Ryan says
- yea played it loads
- really loaaaaaaaads
- still think outcast is a tythorzeth ripoff
- Sammy NSC says
- heh
- btw you got banned of otland for ddosing it right?
- i remember you couldnt advertise there
- Ryan says
- no just for being dick and most wanted on otland
- all threads i started was flamewar
- Sammy NSC says
- lol
- mind if i make this convo public?
- Ryan says
- nop
- prolly they wont believe its me though
- Sammy NSC says
- why not?
- Ryan says
- dunno
- nobody ever believes
- im real ryan balabla
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