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  1. [22:49:39] metaconstruct: oh
  2. [22:49:43] google_ai: oh
  3. [22:49:44] bobbob2238: timm
  4. [22:49:48] koito: Oh
  5. [22:49:51] bobbob2238: stereo
  6. [22:50:13] bobbob2238: oh
  7. [22:50:17] perciacalos: The bed. Okay.
  8. [22:51:11] metaconstruct: wait what
  9. [22:52:01] luna_moona: timOh no, this sowing just got a lot harder
  10. [22:52:18] luna_moona: i was repairing a rip, then i discovered another rip where im supposed to thread through
  11. [22:52:19] bobbob2238: oooh
  12. [22:52:25] it_is_fanatic: hows it going tim
  13. [22:52:31] bobbob2238: i havent seen this one
  14. [22:52:35] luna_moona: so now i have to repair 2 rips
  15. [22:52:40] 7locrian7: thank god
  16. [22:52:43] 7locrian7: no one else is streaming
  17. [22:52:43] airgamer: It's too much hold for xsplit
  18. [22:52:44] perciacalos: Have you tried sexy pose?
  19. [22:52:57] seraphim_z: try categories
  20. [22:53:13] 7locrian7: c a t e g o r i e s
  21. [22:53:21] diggleshut: damn look at all thse loyal subs resubbing
  22. [22:53:26] diggleshut: luna just leave the rips
  23. [22:53:28] diggleshut: and call it fashion
  24. [22:53:40] oldmario: diggle why aren't you subbing
  25. [22:53:42] diggleshut: tim last nights stream was good you did good good job
  26. [22:53:44] turnsie: firefox being a resource hog with chat going wild?
  27. [22:53:46] diggleshut: cauase I'm about to leave for the night
  28. [22:53:52] oldmario: no you're not
  29. [22:53:55] diggleshut: I really should have bought a laptop instead of a ryzen pc
  30. [22:53:57] afluhatinrapper: it does have a few lag spikes in the animation sometimes
  31. [22:54:03] luna_moona: timMinus
  32. [22:54:05] diggleshut: then I could have brought my gaming laptop and 27" monitor to starbucks
  33. [22:54:09] diggleshut: to game and chat
  34. [22:54:13] luna_moona: >gaming laptop
  35. [22:54:19] diggleshut: pls luna
  36. [22:54:20] diggleshut: I want to believe
  37. [22:54:41] pimanrules: OBS is pretty good ;)
  38. [22:54:46] it_is_fanatic: oh
  39. [22:54:50] perciacalos: Clouds no
  40. [22:54:54] metaconstruct: oh, those are separate layers?
  41. [22:54:58] bananaburger: surprise im here
  42. [22:55:01] metaconstruct: why dont you just record them as all one layer
  43. [22:55:06] bananaburger: my plans have been cancelled
  44. [22:55:09] it_is_fanatic: SourPls
  45. [22:55:17] metaconstruct: ah
  46. [22:55:23] bananaburger: is this still breaking?
  47. [22:55:24] jencis0: i see lines in da clouds
  48. [22:55:26] yerraketh: music is familiar
  49. [22:55:28] pimanrules: or just make it like a 10 minute video
  50. [22:55:40] farjuan: Why don't you record the hold on screen for 10 hours? No looping problem
  51. [22:55:59] afluhatinrapper: or make it in HTML & CSS and open it as a web view :p
  52. [22:56:06] pimanrules: if they're all just layers of video, can't be that hard to composite in premiere or something
  53. [22:56:20] greasydratini: have you tried turning it off and back on again?
  54. [22:56:21] thesilentjester: hey the quality settings are back
  55. [22:56:31] feengid: hi tim, good to hear from you
  56. [22:56:43] c1ox: Are we holding on guys
  57. [22:57:17] jencis0: 0
  58. [22:57:26] afluhatinrapper: I think it's probably more surprising xsplit can pull it off reasonably well to begin with
  59. [22:57:41] farjuan: Everyone's living in 2017 when your living in 1997
  60. [22:58:35] talespinner: mangaM nyello caffW
  61. [22:58:57] talespinner: i have finished writing a wonderful chapter about an earth dragon
  62. [22:59:10] diggleshut: ok most beloved and favored chat
  63. [22:59:11] diggleshut: see you soon
  64. [22:59:22] deathsheeps: Hey, Tim. Hey, Chat
  65. [22:59:29] rintezuka1: ello o/
  66. [22:59:38] popcorncolonel: Man hearing this makes me excited for a stream
  67. [22:59:41] popcorncolonel: Pavlovianly
  68. [22:59:51] diggleshut: I too cannot control my salivation
  69. [23:00:22] afluhatinrapper: this is a wet chat
  70. [23:00:25] pimanrules: I would always watch Tim late at night in bed, so when I played Persona 3 for the first time the dorm music would always make me sleepy
  71. [23:00:34] jencis0: not_tim > stereo> mono
  72. [23:00:37] disguised22: @popcorncolonel You put into words what my heart knew
  73. [23:00:42] popcorncolonel: True pimanrules
  74. [23:01:05] popcorncolonel: Well tim's voice just usually makes me sleepy in general
  75. [23:01:06] jencis0: lol seriously, im getting v sleepy just from hearing this music
  76. [23:01:09] elagabaluscaesar: Wait a minute, this isn't a stream
  77. [23:03:11] theperson88: you're free to hold on if you want, though @ElagabalusCaesar
  78. [23:05:15] josuedv: bark like a dog
  79. [23:05:16] perciacalos: Lifeline was pretty great
  80. [23:05:22] rintezuka1: I wouldn't mind more lifeline
  81. [23:05:22] itsallgooddog: Tim we just want you to be happy
  82. [23:05:22] basssic: categories
  83. [23:05:24] koito: More Lifeline
  84. [23:05:25] perciacalos: I need more sexy pose
  85. [23:05:34] disguised22: The gimmick was great but probably not worthy of multiple streams
  86. [23:05:37] google_ai: I will take tim being happy for 1000
  87. [23:05:38] kriegerfluff: how much farther does the game have
  88. [23:05:45] basssic: are you nearly done with it? i don't know how far you got
  89. [23:05:50] dax12: It wa sgreat once, not aure if we need to finish
  90. [23:05:53] perciacalos: You should do it again, except with text to voice
  91. [23:06:05] basssic: cause if it's just gonna be one more stream then i think it would be OK to finish
  92. [23:06:06] basssic: imho
  93. [23:06:07] metaconstruct: heh
  94. [23:06:17] rintezuka1: around 6-10 hours more?
  95. [23:06:22] dax12: twitch plays Life Line
  96. [23:06:40] luna_moona: cya
  97. [23:06:52] afluhatinrapper: so not to mess with you, but have the tiles always draped over that bush?
  98. [23:06:59] talespinner: anybody else excited for this year's International Wrestling Festival
  99. [23:07:28] ethernetseeds: lifeline was pretty great
  100. [23:07:38] pinguino: why are you in this field anyway
  101. [23:07:44] pinguino: are you fighting someone
  102. [23:07:51] turnsie: That's what Tim does when he isn't streaming
  103. [23:07:52] it_is_fanatic: fighting DEPRESSION
  104. [23:07:53] pinguino: this hold on screen lore makes no sense
  105. [23:07:54] turnsie: he just stands in fields
  106. [23:08:23] disguised22: It looks like a cutscene
  107. [23:08:26] mishmisha: perfectiontonetim
  108. [23:09:06] communitycirclejerk: hold on stream?
  109. [23:09:09] ethernetseeds: are all the hold ons broken?
  110. [23:09:42] talespinner: i do see a- oh.
  111. [23:09:48] pinguino: is it the intersection where cars disappear
  112. [23:09:49] afluhatinrapper: oh god I found óne
  113. [23:09:51] travador: lmao
  114. [23:09:56] talespinner: there's multiple points where cars disappear
  115. [23:10:05] metaconstruct: its because you have 2 many layers
  116. [23:10:06] rintezuka1: didn't it stop crashing after stream?
  117. [23:10:07] it_is_fanatic: SourPls
  118. [23:10:08] travador: there is a whole road with no cars
  119. [23:10:11] pinguino: the loop on that dragon is very obvious
  120. [23:10:13] volantarius: maybe its just from the length of the back clouds
  121. [23:10:34] jencis0: its there
  122. [23:10:37] rintezuka1: Yeah one extra frame
  123. [23:10:50] pinguino: weird
  124. [23:10:51] disguised22: I though it seemed smoother last night
  125. [23:10:56] disguised22: thought
  126. [23:10:59] jencis0: never update
  127. [23:11:08] communitycirclejerk: SourPls
  128. [23:11:24] winwolfz2: When are you going to live out your lifelong dream of actually animating stuff instead of sciencing.
  129. [23:11:29] pimanrules: definitely vote for mastering them in not-xsplit
  130. [23:11:50] afluhatinrapper: I can't wait for the full length animated movie
  131. [23:12:02] winwolfz2: I'd watch a monotim animated movie, ngl
  132. [23:12:30] wcorbe: lassHey
  133. [23:12:34] ethernetseeds: animatedToneTIm
  134. [23:12:38] pinguino: what would be the plot of Tim: The Movie
  135. [23:12:46] winwolfz2: does it need one
  136. [23:12:48] disguised22: MonoToonTim
  137. [23:12:50] communitycirclejerk: "Patapon 2 Remastered Announced for PlayStation 4" starZ
  138. [23:12:52] mishmisha: we'd all watch tim organize his pc or batch rename files
  139. [23:12:54] winwolfz2: it can just be random shenanigans
  140. [23:13:08] pinguino: It'll be like the Fred movie
  141. [23:13:09] metaconstruct: seems fine
  142. [23:13:10] pinguino: but with Tim
  143. [23:13:10] luna_moona: part 1 of my sowing is complete
  144. [23:13:28] wcorbe: and better than the fred movie
  145. [23:13:29] winwolfz2: If emojis can get movies, tim certainly can
  146. [23:13:31] ahnorex: oh shit i've been missing the hold on tests
  147. [23:13:35] reecer6: it'd be a 2 hour long recording of him doing basic tasks in the lab
  148. [23:13:40] disguised22: @pinguino Same sxript6
  149. [23:13:42] reecer6: he never turns towards the camera
  150. [23:13:52] ethernetseeds: make a swarm of them
  151. [23:13:54] blackeyedsceva7: What game is this from?
  152. [23:14:02] mishmisha: why is tim so interesting tho
  153. [23:14:07] willster132: hold on?
  154. [23:14:08] ahnorex: does this mean real tim strim soon?
  155. [23:14:15] willster132: Im not ready for real stream
  156. [23:14:18] willster132: I have finals in 3 days
  157. [23:14:19] reecer6: that's right, lifeline 2 tonight
  158. [23:14:19] willster132: Tim please
  159. [23:14:23] ahnorex: hahah
  160. [23:14:25] willster132: fuk
  161. [23:14:25] ahnorex: tim would die
  162. [23:14:29] willster132: Guess I'll settle for b's
  163. [23:14:45] willster132: also SourPls
  164. [23:14:47] reecer6: stage fright
  165. [23:14:51] shimmerfairy: Are the clouds 1 gif or 4? (or movies?)
  166. [23:15:06] n3cr0w: What game is this from?
  167. [23:15:11] afluhatinrapper: it's annoying how they're perfect for a while, and then just crap out
  168. [23:15:12] reecer6: man you guys don't know cave story
  169. [23:15:15] pinguino: switch to OBS purely for better Hold On rendering
  170. [23:15:17] reecer6: that's a bit sad
  171. [23:15:19] blackeyedsceva7: Can xsplit play *one* of them without shitting itself?
  172. [23:15:39] blackeyedsceva7: Do keep source in memory
  173. [23:15:44] blackeyedsceva7: it's still faster than your SSD
  174. [23:16:23] it_is_fanatic: SourPls
  175. [23:16:45] blackeyedsceva7: nope
  176. [23:16:46] blackeyedsceva7: still bad
  177. [23:16:48] blackeyedsceva7: lol
  178. [23:16:52] wcorbe: timOh
  179. [23:16:53] blackeyedsceva7: That's rough
  180. [23:16:59] afluhatinrapper: ...nope, just as bad really
  181. [23:17:02] blackeyedsceva7: Have you considered OBS
  182. [23:17:04] themusicdan: wow
  183. [23:17:06] popcorncolonel: why
  184. [23:17:08] blackeyedsceva7: because IME it doesn't have this issue
  185. [23:17:14] oldmario: sewing
  186. [23:17:25] pimanrules: OBS Studio is slightly less bad..
  187. [23:17:29] blackeyedsceva7: it's not too bad, it's just bland and practical
  188. [23:17:46] shimmerfairy: Have you filed a bug or something with XSplit?
  189. [23:17:58] j0nty7: hey
  190. [23:18:02] metaconstruct: 2014 :<
  191. [23:18:05] bananaburger: cropping in obs is a nightmare
  192. [23:18:05] pimanrules: CineForm!
  193. [23:18:26] ethernetseeds: yeah complain to xsplit
  194. [23:18:35] wingsofjanitor: Man I have a total Pavlovian response to the music from Hold On screens. The stream incoming vibes are strong haha.
  195. [23:18:36] turnsie: would webm work?
  196. [23:18:56] willster132: avi looks slightly worse to me
  197. [23:18:59] willster132: Bue they both are shit
  198. [23:19:00] jencis0: my eyes
  199. [23:19:03] afluhatinrapper: but the top one seems like it has a consistent hitch?
  200. [23:19:27] luaduck: just jumped in, what are we comparing?
  201. [23:19:39] blackeyedsceva7: can't imagine webm would work
  202. [23:19:41] willster132: how non smooth the gifs are
  203. [23:19:42] volantarius: why cant they all be the same speed and just change the speed of the gif?
  204. [23:19:45] shimmerfairy: I think I'm noticing some hitching I think, and I'm not watching at 60fps.
  205. [23:19:52] luaduck: does OBS not have any support for PNG sequences?
  206. [23:19:57] killerking333: i hear cavestory
  207. [23:19:59] luaduck: that's the standard for live video animation
  208. [23:20:01] killerking333: and tim
  209. [23:20:06] blackeyedsceva7: OBS does
  210. [23:20:08] c1ox: Upper one had a consistent hitch but it was more fluent overall
  211. [23:20:09] volantarius: Like capture the thing at one speed
  212. [23:20:19] volantarius: then lower the speed on the gif afterwards
  213. [23:20:19] blackeyedsceva7: Tim is using xsplit @luaduck
  214. [23:20:20] ethernetseeds: Tim uses xsplit
  215. [23:20:22] luaduck: oo
  216. [23:20:25] luaduck: fffff
  217. [23:20:28] wootonius: I'm waiting on Realvideo being the only way
  218. [23:20:40] luaduck: I'd hazard a guess and say xsplit has something similar
  219. [23:20:51] luaduck: @Wootonius realplayer is always the only way
  220. [23:20:53] blackeyedsceva7: you need to install quicktime and run it in win95 compatibility mode
  221. [23:21:06] bananaburger: hearing this part of the song is always so weird for me
  222. [23:21:23] bananaburger: like it doesnt belong or something
  223. [23:21:41] blackeyedsceva7: Try MPEG
  224. [23:21:42] shimmerfairy: Have you tried AVI, since it worked for Vib Ribbon?
  225. [23:21:47] luaduck: "For MOV and PNG source files, click Convert and add stinger. XSplit will automatically convert MOV or PNG sequence files to a WEBM file." how garbage
  226. [23:21:49] blackeyedsceva7: Ok nevermind
  227. [23:21:58] blackeyedsceva7: nah WMV9 is trashy
  228. [23:22:08] blackeyedsceva7: You typically want mpeg for stuff like this
  229. [23:22:13] willster132: Just screen capture you drawing all the frames in paint
  230. [23:22:18] pimanrules: Bink Video!
  231. [23:22:21] blackeyedsceva7: like studios all use MPEG still
  232. [23:22:23] luaduck: yeah, as lossless and easy to decode as possible
  233. [23:22:33] pimanrules: APNG!
  234. [23:22:34] bananaburger: oh so its vbr?
  235. [23:22:38] wootonius: shockwave!
  236. [23:22:42] pimanrules: what other obscure video formats can we think of?
  237. [23:22:45] luaduck: man APNG is magic
  238. [23:23:04] pimanrules: wait, did chrome add support for APNG at some point?
  239. [23:23:10] shimmerfairy: The early Nancy Drew games' AVF video format!
  240. [23:23:15] pimanrules: I remember feeling superior for using Firefox because of that
  241. [23:23:15] shimmerfairy: Try that! timBBQQT
  242. [23:23:31] blackeyedsceva7: Is that MPEG?
  243. [23:23:32] metaconstruct: god
  244. [23:23:47] greasydratini: spooky
  245. [23:24:02] blackeyedsceva7: Try MPEG for me
  246. [23:24:03] pimanrules: oh chrome added apng support in june 2017
  247. [23:24:08] bananaburger: thats weird
  248. [23:24:16] pimanrules: Firefox had it in 2008
  249. [23:24:21] blackeyedsceva7: Colors should be right on MPEG at least
  250. [23:24:24] blackeyedsceva7: MPEG2
  251. [23:24:30] blackeyedsceva7: yes
  252. [23:24:46] luaduck: mediatransport2?
  253. [23:24:50] blackeyedsceva7: wtf
  254. [23:24:58] blackeyedsceva7: What does it save MPEG1 as?
  255. [23:25:02] blackeyedsceva7: (I've never used Vegas)
  256. [23:25:09] basssic: have you tried .3GP
  257. [23:25:10] luna_moona: oops
  258. [23:25:17] luna_moona: also i noticed a 3rd area i need to sew
  259. [23:25:27] blackeyedsceva7: It's forcing you to use premade production standards
  260. [23:25:32] blackeyedsceva7: that's unfortunate
  261. [23:25:33] willster132: have you tried converting to BBQQT
  262. [23:25:35] pimanrules: H.263!
  263. [23:26:02] shimmerfairy: What if you made the clouds jitter all over so the hitching just becomes part of it? timBBQQT
  264. [23:26:05] bananaburger: huh
  265. [23:26:07] bobbob2238: for some reason im getting .05 mb download rn
  266. [23:26:17] blackeyedsceva7: H.253 = MPEG4 @pimanrules
  267. [23:26:17] bobbob2238: rip me
  268. [23:26:21] pimanrules: Mobiclip!
  269. [23:26:23] willster132: if you make everything look like BBQQT it can just be part of the allure
  270. [23:26:23] linkduck: just saw the new hold on screen, it's really good, you did a nice job on it
  271. [23:26:35] shimmerfairy: @StereotoneTim Use real media, that's the ticket!
  272. [23:26:48] basssic: convert it to a macromedia director format
  273. [23:26:54] blackeyedsceva7: Wait do you not know how to composite video in Premiere?
  274. [23:26:57] bananaburger: what if we combined xsplits features with obs's stability? 🤔
  275. [23:26:58] blackeyedsceva7: It's just as easy
  276. [23:27:01] danny_dewritos: wait is the screen supposed to be black?
  277. [23:27:14] google_ai: ya
  278. [23:27:18] rintezuka1: OBS studio time?
  279. [23:27:18] bananaburger: or a better question is
  280. [23:27:28] bananaburger: why is obs so lacking in features
  281. [23:27:28] blackeyedsceva7: @StereotoneTim Can you really not composite the video in Vegas?
  282. [23:27:34] luaduck: OBSMP can do 99% of what xsplit can do IMO
  283. [23:27:42] bananaburger: not really
  284. [23:27:45] it_is_fanatic: that was your first mistake
  285. [23:27:46] luaduck: you have to be a bit more creative, sure
  286. [23:27:54] popipon: sunk cost fallacy isn't an excuse tim
  287. [23:28:00] blackeyedsceva7: Oh yeah you tried one already
  288. [23:28:04] blackeyedsceva7: (
  289. [23:28:05] jencis0: what about a 59 fps video?
  290. [23:28:13] clyde1500: Just make it 24 fps for the cinematic experience timBBQQT
  291. [23:28:13] blackeyedsceva7: It's hitching already
  292. [23:28:23] deathsheeps: its hitching
  293. [23:28:24] blackeyedsceva7: and it's random for sure
  294. [23:28:27] blackeyedsceva7: not at loop
  295. [23:28:36] willster132: Its bad because it refelects your
  296. [23:28:38] pimanrules: A variable frame rate video that loses one frame per second per second
  297. [23:28:45] pimanrules: that's my favorite format
  298. [23:29:01] blackeyedsceva7: IDK I have serious issues with video. When I re-imaged my machine I used the EXACT same image and now video all hitches in VLC/Potplayer/WM
  299. [23:29:07] blackeyedsceva7: I literally have to use MPC
  300. [23:29:10] shimmerfairy: Here's one thread that MIGHT be similar: https://www.reddit.com/r/xsplit/comments/4jj6t3/xsplit_cannot_hold_60fps_capture/
  301. [23:29:19] blackeyedsceva7: I've tried like every single possible combo of codecs
  302. [23:29:23] reecer6: i like my animations to have frame deceleration
  303. [23:29:30] reecer6: eventually they should start going backwards.
  304. [23:29:53] deathsheeps: its all i can look at now, Tim
  305. [23:29:55] blackeyedsceva7: Most people aren't going to notice
  306. [23:30:00] afluhatinrapper: I mean, if you sort of squint and don't look too hard it's fine
  307. [23:30:07] reecer6: but it's beautiful parallax, i want to look at it
  308. [23:30:17] skygtr350: When's the Hold On screen with speech to enable it
  309. [23:30:18] willster132: HAve you tried using Mode7
  310. [23:30:21] reecer6: tbf the hitching i just blame on the stream itself
  311. [23:30:36] reecer6: streams do that
  312. [23:30:47] boredcyborg: just say it's twitch and no one will ask any more questions
  313. [23:30:53] luaduck: I'm running on macos and hitching is part of my life
  314. [23:31:05] skygtr350: "Sea shells!" "Shutter 3? Okay I'll go there"
  315. [23:31:25] blackeyedsceva7: Yeah, this is very similar to the issue I am having with playback
  316. [23:31:29] blackeyedsceva7: and I cannot find any support
  317. [23:31:34] blackeyedsceva7: and just resort to using MPC only
  318. [23:31:42] communitycirclejerk: stream today, @StereotoneTim ?
  319. [23:31:48] blackeyedsceva7: immensely frustrating
  320. [23:31:59] docthemagicllama: Xsplit "It works ok, I guess"
  321. [23:32:06] mended_: will you be adding any star twinkling action?
  322. [23:32:08] deathsheeps: New tagline
  323. [23:32:20] deathsheeps: Xsplit: "If you don't do alot, it's ok"
  324. [23:32:43] bananaburger: really?
  325. [23:32:44] shimmerfairy: Xsplit®: Xpect Less™
  326. [23:32:44] it_is_fanatic: your mean OBS?
  327. [23:32:57] bananaburger: oh yeah
  328. [23:33:03] bananaburger: obs is incredibly unintuitive
  329. [23:33:03] luaduck: y'all need some vMix in your life
  330. [23:33:06] pimanrules: xsplit has never been good to me, I love OBS
  331. [23:33:09] luaduck: and a $1,000 loan to afford vMix
  332. [23:33:13] metaconstruct: obs is /okay/ i guess, but i dont do anything complicated with it
  333. [23:33:15] deathsheeps: OBS over here baby!
  334. [23:33:21] bananaburger: like most open source software
  335. [23:33:59] turnsie: Is there any good streaming software?
  336. [23:34:15] turnsie: I haven't even heard of anything other than xsplit and obs/studio
  337. [23:34:25] pimanrules: there's expensive professional stuff
  338. [23:34:26] rebcart: those are pretty much the only two
  339. [23:34:33] rebcart: that most people use
  340. [23:34:35] bananaburger: flash media encoder :^)
  341. [23:35:06] blackeyedsceva7: you'll need to set your settings
  342. [23:35:07] pimanrules: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2907883
  343. [23:35:07] bananaburger: oh what am i thinking of then
  344. [23:35:15] blackeyedsceva7: @StereotoneTim You can
  345. [23:35:26] blackeyedsceva7: @StereotoneTim Also you can record straight to a file. You don't need to capture this
  346. [23:35:27] deathsheeps: Damn, look at those menus
  347. [23:35:32] deathsheeps: OBS you sexy beast
  348. [23:35:43] pimanrules: there's a loop checkbox in OBS IIRC
  349. [23:35:52] blackeyedsceva7: You'll need to add it as a source and set it to loop
  350. [23:36:02] blackeyedsceva7: I told you it works in OBS lol
  351. [23:36:28] deathsheeps: It causing you're breathing on it
  352. [23:36:29] bananaburger: how thats how you did the layers?
  353. [23:36:31] bananaburger: neat
  354. [23:36:32] shimmerfairy: Looks like the loop's off on that one.
  355. [23:36:38] rebcart: is it a bad loop
  356. [23:36:40] blackeyedsceva7: I think it's the amount of them
  357. [23:36:47] luaduck: at least you can use PNG sequence in OBS
  358. [23:37:00] themusicdan: Interesting... so it's possible to get any of these to not hitch?
  359. [23:37:18] bananaburger: hmm
  360. [23:37:18] popipon: sky e
  361. [23:37:20] murugo: Maybe clouds just hitch in nature
  362. [23:37:23] blackeyedsceva7: The top two aren't doing it at all
  363. [23:37:23] willster132: the 3rd one down is having a hufe problem
  364. [23:37:24] metaconstruct: its not the way you recorded them originally?
  365. [23:37:25] perciacalos: But The Future Refused To Change . . .
  366. [23:37:25] shimmerfairy: make the clouds into one video
  367. [23:37:28] themusicdan: ^
  368. [23:37:32] popipon: woops
  369. [23:37:32] popcorncolonel: Why is this
  370. [23:37:40] popcorncolonel: 1 and 2 are pretty bad
  371. [23:37:42] themusicdan: (assuming any individual layer can run without hitching)
  372. [23:37:43] popcorncolonel: 2 is the worst tho
  373. [23:37:48] farjuan: Convert the gifs to webms?
  374. [23:37:49] blackeyedsceva7: The darkest two look fine
  375. [23:37:59] q1s2: frame by frame
  376. [23:38:06] q1s2: the clouds move
  377. [23:38:11] deathsheeps: Haha layer 2 just having a bad day
  378. [23:38:34] pimanrules: Vegas is the way to go ;)
  379. [23:38:46] themusicdan: Like if any one layer can work, then prerendering everything as one layer might fix it
  380. [23:39:35] airgamer: It might be an issue with the loop point? seems like it happens at the same point
  381. [23:39:40] silversonic: Color Key
  382. [23:39:46] zomgqwert: switching to OBS?
  383. [23:39:46] silversonic: use Color Key instead of Chroma in OBS
  384. [23:39:46] domaspiragas: That's strange.
  385. [23:39:52] pimanrules: color key is under filters
  386. [23:39:57] rebcart: no one would use OBS if it didnt have it
  387. [23:40:14] shimmerfairy: I really think the hitching on layer 2 has to do with that specific layer, since I don't see it on the other clouds.
  388. [23:40:44] oldmario: i was gonna say what are you sewing
  389. [23:40:45] q1s2: it hitches at the same spot too
  390. [23:40:51] oldmario: but then i remembered you're getting rid of the second hole
  391. [23:40:59] j0nty7: looks good
  392. [23:41:01] boredcyborg: looks like a looping error
  393. [23:41:15] murugo: I wonder if Xsplit is confusing the loop range between layers
  394. [23:41:21] silversonic: So out of curiosity, how come you're setting this up in OBS?
  395. [23:41:54] pinguino: Stream will go down to switch to OBS just for this one scene and then back
  396. [23:42:14] winwolfz2: Use it only for quick brbs
  397. [23:42:18] rintezuka1: memory leak?
  398. [23:42:33] feengid: makes me think of face melting girl :D
  399. [23:42:52] shimmerfairy: XSplit might be suffering from Hot Girl Disease.
  400. [23:43:12] q1s2: xmas hold on screen
  401. [23:43:22] pimanrules: Are the colors different or is that just weird video encoding side effects?
  402. [23:43:36] shimmerfairy: oh man, Tim (and maybe the dragon too) should be wearing dumb Santa hats!
  403. [23:43:54] ryason55: huh
  404. [23:43:54] q1s2: xsplit is more saturated
  405. [23:43:56] themusicdan: lol
  406. [23:44:04] rebcart: confirmed xsplit not accurate
  407. [23:44:07] luaduck: Looks like GPU color spacing
  408. [23:44:27] metaconstruct: weird
  409. [23:44:30] luaduck: or possibly restricted color spacing on OBS's side?
  410. [23:44:39] themusicdan: It's certainly not worse
  411. [23:45:19] luaduck: tl;dr 16-235 is limited color space (aka TVs, broadcast), 0-255 is full color space (aka PCs)
  412. [23:45:22] ryason55: the moon is higher up on the XSplit version, I think
  413. [23:45:34] 0bservants: that was some hot picture-in-picture action!
  414. [23:45:57] boredcyborg: try readding the second layer?
  415. [23:46:11] luaduck: I would definitely try PNG sequencing
  416. [23:46:17] rebcart: you said you had multiple versions of that 2nd layer? try the other version?
  417. [23:46:31] luaduck: you've got quite a lot of motion on one scene there, so it's possible you're just at the limits of real-time motion
  418. [23:47:22] luaduck: need to restart OBS after an audio change iirc
  419. [23:47:34] perciacalos: timOh
  420. [23:47:38] luaduck: timOh?
  421. [23:47:38] boredcyborg: timOh
  422. [23:47:41] clyde1500: timOh
  423. [23:47:45] luaduck: timOh
  424. [23:48:09] 0bservants: timOh
  425. [23:48:40] shimmerfairy: LAB colorspace best colorspace timBBQQT
  426. [23:48:54] disguised22: Tfw no Tim sub DoritosChip
  427. [23:48:55] luaduck: you may need to set the output destinations in the source config for the mp3
  428. [23:49:02] luaduck: (I forget exactly how)
  429. [23:49:03] pimanrules: Advance Audio Properties -> Monitor?
  430. [23:49:07] rebcart: you have to go into advanced audio properties, use the dropdown and click Monitor & Output
  431. [23:49:10] rebcart: if you want to hear it locally
  432. [23:49:28] pimanrules: right click on the little audio area
  433. [23:49:43] elliottwain: Tim could you try and loop that second cloud backwards and see if it fixes the hitching?
  434. [23:50:07] pimanrules: By which I mean the mixer
  435. [23:50:46] rebcart: having it as just Output will let the stream hear it, but you wont
  436. [23:50:51] rebcart: monitor & output lets you hear it also
  437. [23:51:05] allstar3339: timOh
  438. [23:51:30] bananaburger: i wish i knew the answer to that too
  439. [23:51:34] bananaburger: i want to love obs
  440. [23:51:44] pimanrules: you can press delete to delete things...
  441. [23:51:45] boredcyborg: open source programmers are aliens
  442. [23:51:49] bananaburger: ^
  443. [23:51:54] luaduck: ^
  444. [23:51:56] deathsheeps: I love obs
  445. [23:52:01] bananaburger: i feel that way when i use gimp too
  446. [23:52:02] josuedv: that's actually a valid answer wow
  447. [23:52:09] themusicdan: I assume OBS was designed by an engineer
  448. [23:52:17] luaduck: shortcut to delete source in OBS is backspace
  449. [23:52:21] bananaburger: idk what jim's background is
  450. [23:52:26] murugo: What priority is OBS set to?
  451. [23:52:53] pimanrules: yeah, come to think of it, running xsplit and OBS at the same time probably isn't doing OBS any favors
  452. [23:53:07] themusicdan: I typically put OBS at Above Normal when I use it
  453. [23:53:11] pimanrules: REALTIME PRIORITY :D
  454. [23:53:42] bananaburger: sounds like when i have firefox open
  455. [23:53:46] skygtr350: 6GB of ram timOh
  456. [23:54:22] elliottwain: It made it worse
  457. [23:54:38] themusicdan: When will programs have a "drop frames" button? :D
  458. [23:54:41] bananaburger: it does it in the same spot every time
  459. [23:54:59] bananaburger: almost like its the looping thats the problem
  460. [23:55:05] bananaburger: oh
  461. [23:55:07] airgamer: it's weird that only that layer doesn't loop correctly
  462. [23:55:10] shimmerfairy: Yeah, I seriously think it's the video that's wrong.
  463. [23:55:14] boredcyborg: doesn't obs have a scroll filter? perhaps you could have a static image and use that
  464. [23:55:23] bananaburger: i think it does
  465. [23:55:30] pimanrules: oh yeah
  466. [23:56:13] seri__: yep obs def does have this
  467. [23:56:15] pimanrules: it even tiles
  468. [23:56:19] elliottwain: Hmm, could you try and just put a second copy cloud image over top of the hitchy one?
  469. [23:56:40] bananaburger: no
  470. [23:56:41] boredcyborg: no
  471. [23:57:13] feengid: neat !
  472. [23:57:13] bananaburger: what
  473. [23:57:20] q1s2: oooo
  474. [23:57:23] bananaburger: oh its still really janky
  475. [23:57:25] dthomson15: well would you look at that
  476. [23:57:28] pimanrules: OBS <3
  477. [23:57:30] rebcart: solved
  478. [23:57:35] luaduck: TableHere
  479. [23:57:38] q1s2: we obs now
  480. [23:57:38] deadlyspaghettie: what is this
  481. [23:57:43] themusicdan: LUL
  482. [23:57:43] feengid: wow it works??? YEAHH !
  483. [23:57:54] josuedv: quality, free, opensource software
  484. [23:58:04] seri__: always check out all the filters and stuff :^)
  485. [23:58:31] bananaburger: honestly the only thing that really upsets me about obs is how cropping works
  486. [23:58:38] rebcart: too much work
  487. [23:58:43] seri__: wth tim lmao
  488. [23:58:44] shimmerfairy: That's absurdly elaborate. You shoulda just used <marquee><img src="..."/></marquee> :P
  489. [23:58:47] pimanrules: oh yeah cropping sucks
  490. [23:58:48] bananaburger: alt cropping is kind of dumb
  491. [23:58:48] feengid: lol
  492. [23:58:56] slice919: Tim you could just edit a video like a normal person
  493. [23:58:56] josuedv: tim, you love to science way too hard sometimes
  494. [23:59:00] themusicdan: Ah, technology
  495. [23:59:01] feengid: d'oh
  496. [23:59:09] rintezuka1: time to recreate all hold ons on OBS?
  497. [23:59:09] murugo: I don't know if XSplit/OBS can use HTML as a resource
  498. [23:59:11] reecer6: hooray
  499. [23:59:11] pimanrules: oh... you can use alt to crop...
  500. [23:59:20] skygtr350: timOh
  501. [23:59:28] luaduck: timQR
  502. [23:59:32] bananaburger: so are you going to export a video?
  503. [23:59:35] deadlyspaghettie: thats a really good intermission slide
  504. [23:59:39] murugo: You could do file://
  505. [23:59:55] shimmerfairy: I don't approve of going down this road.
  506. [23:59:59] deadlyspaghettie: did you do the music too?
  507. [00:00:05] pimanrules: as much as I love the idea of that solution, making it in Vegas is still a better idea
  508. [00:00:08] luaduck: what do you need doing?
  509. [00:00:22] domaspiragas: The aliens that built OBS know better.
  510. [00:00:59] pimanrules: it's open source, just compile a version without that 500 limit :D
  511. [00:01:11] communitycirclejerk: `NERD
  512. [00:01:21] luaduck: it's definitely doable in HTML / JS, but would take a while
  513. [00:01:21] seri__: >just
  514. [00:01:21] rebcart: just chalk this up as a learning process tim
  515. [00:01:29] afluhatinrapper: the game devs probably spent less time on the title screen than you did
  516. [00:01:53] osobari: I really need to get back to Cave Story. Got the Switch version but stopped playing it when other stuff came out.
  517. [00:01:57] pimanrules: just https://github.com/jp9000/obs-studio/wiki/Install-Instructions#windows-build-directions
  518. [00:02:48] gameraxel: What's today plan?
  519. [00:02:56] ryason55: heh, welp
  520. [00:03:16] basssic: obs wins again
  521. [00:03:24] themusicdan: If there's anything I've learned about technology, it's that good documentation is a godsend
  522. [00:03:27] youngestchild: Tim you are my spirit animal
  523. [00:03:28] tacobowl8: red line!
  524. [00:03:33] osobari: Tim not listening to people telling him to use OBS finally comes back to bite him. timBBQQT
  525. [00:03:38] deadlyspaghettie: who did the pixel art? It looks great
  526. [00:03:40] skygtr350: make the entire background an animated gif timClip
  527. [00:03:43] communitycirclejerk: Stream today, @StereotoneTim ?
  528. [00:03:43] shimmerfairy: I still find it interesting how Tim gave his guy eyes this time. How long until we get the whole face?
  529. [00:03:45] noisecrush: html fire? sounds like anything in html
  530. [00:03:50] murugo: You could probably compose this entire thing in HTML / CSS
  531. [00:03:59] pimanrules: that sounds overkill
  532. [00:04:04] fajosu: oh OBS
  533. [00:04:07] murugo: But if the problem is too many resources, then it would probably handle the page the same way
  534. [00:04:10] bigfatanimal: camt you use the css webpages as a source and just chroma/cut around that
  535. [00:04:11] seri__: the preview of obs is hitchier than the actual output to the stream sometimes btw
  536. [00:04:16] it_is_fanatic: do you have any pictures of pre-eyes?
  537. [00:04:17] shimmerfairy: Oh, don't forget the color key on the back clouds, if you haven't done that already.
  538. [00:04:22] reecer6: i mean, the original character is a robot, isn't he
  539. [00:04:26] reecer6: he's not a person
  540. [00:04:33] noisecrush: wow spoilers??????
  541. [00:04:44] youngestchild: Wait... I think I'm glitched, is it a black screen or is it just me lol?
  542. [00:04:51] shimmerfairy: no, we can see stuff
  543. [00:04:52] noisecrush: it's not just a blank screen
  544. [00:05:27] popipon: or record this for 10 minutes and just feed that video file into xsplit
  545. [00:05:29] afluhatinrapper: you could get OBS to render this to a video file, maybe xsplit can play that back to make things a tiny little bit better for now
  546. [00:05:30] shimmerfairy: You used a CSS tutorial to film scrolling clouds. I think you are inclined.
  547. [00:05:30] popipon: ez
  548. [00:05:33] youngestchild: totally thought it was something he was trying to fix lol Hold On
  549. [00:05:37] dthomson15: what game is this referencing?
  550. [00:05:38] ryason55: maybe record, like, 15 minutes of the screen and then use that in XSplit?
  551. [00:05:47] ethernetseeds: just because you paid for something doesn't make it better
  552. [00:05:49] farjuan: click "Record Video" in obs. Use it in Xsplit
  553. [00:05:52] shimmerfairy: File a bug report with your premium license.
  554. [00:05:54] turnsie: Sunk cost fallacy, Tim
  555. [00:06:05] perciacalos: riffThink
  556. [00:06:06] noisecrush: ^
  557. [00:06:07] svrerr: not a bad idea
  558. [00:06:08] 13thmarc: That is what I was thinking
  559. [00:06:10] luaduck: it's not pathetic if it works
  560. [00:06:15] dthomson15: I mean that would be faster than remaking it all haha
  561. [00:06:39] 0bservants: i was going to suggest that too but yeah...
  562. [00:06:42] fenrax: Oh
  563. [00:06:55] bananaburger: i do like how its all live
  564. [00:06:56] fenrax: my short nap turned into sleeping for 8 hours
  565. [00:06:58] 0bservants: seems like a smart-dumb solution
  566. [00:07:00] fenrax: i think i'm sick
  567. [00:07:04] seri__: one thing missing in obs is 3D transformations tho
  568. [00:07:25] skystairway: if it's good quality enough it's ok
  569. [00:07:26] bananaburger: ^
  570. [00:07:30] bananaburger: nope
  571. [00:07:30] seri__: like the blue hold on in the no tengo dinero
  572. [00:07:35] 13thmarc: But then that is the funny part and story of it. "So I should be able to pull this apart, but its a video now because Xsplit hates me"
  573. [00:07:43] farjuan: Just record the background and use that in xsplit
  574. [00:07:45] rebcart: is xsplit really worth the money just for 3D effects
  575. [00:07:45] skystairway: aah lmao
  576. [00:07:45] ryason55: Oh
  577. [00:07:45] it_is_fanatic: oh god
  578. [00:07:47] basssic: looks great
  579. [00:07:47] communitycirclejerk: starO
  580. [00:07:49] murugo: Yo spheremaps
  581. [00:07:51] shimmerfairy: FISHEYE HOLDON!
  582. [00:07:51] reecer6: it's spherical!
  583. [00:07:53] bananaburger: cant do that in obs
  584. [00:07:53] it_is_fanatic: use it on the moon
  585. [00:07:55] abortion_shark: you'll find a use for it
  586. [00:07:58] metaconstruct: wha
  587. [00:08:02] savellon: cirWut
  588. [00:08:07] reecer6: that's so specific
  589. [00:08:08] shanahand: Perfect
  590. [00:08:15] aauxillia: Woah is this 2017 or 2117?!
  591. [00:08:17] shimmerfairy: Xsplit made it because they knew you could find a use for it.
  592. [00:08:28] bananaburger: i dont think you can do that thing where it constantly changes color
  593. [00:08:31] bananaburger: idk what its called
  594. [00:08:33] luaduck: ｏｎｅｈｕｎｄｒｅｄａｎｄｎｉｎｅｔｙｎｉｎｅｄｏｌｌａｒｅｆｆｅｃｔｓ
  595. [00:08:35] ryason55: fisheye your character and fit him in the moon
  596. [00:08:52] communitycirclejerk: can you do it to the moon?
  597. [00:08:53] luaduck: oh wow that's trippy
  598. [00:08:55] shimmerfairy: That's a weird map of the earth.
  599. [00:08:57] themusicdan: hecticRawr
  600. [00:09:02] bananaburger: timPlus
  601. [00:09:14] afluhatinrapper: I mean...was this feature very high on their customer's wishlists?
  602. [00:09:16] shanahand: Just use it like that
  603. [00:09:23] ethernetseeds: you could try combining the clouds all into one layer to maybe reduce it some
  604. [00:09:36] ryason55: XSplit isn't a videogame, Tim
  605. [00:09:38] luaduck: @EthernetSeeds good shout
  606. [00:09:40] youngestchild: Now which game is this for?
  607. [00:09:47] communitycirclejerk: cave story
  608. [00:09:56] seri__: just
  609. [00:10:01] luaduck: would have to be a fairly long loop to get the speeds right
  610. [00:10:04] slice919: Jesus tim
  611. [00:10:06] communitycirclejerk: when's a parappa hold on @StereotoneTim TekkenLili
  612. [00:10:07] youngestchild: nice, never played far enough to dragon
  613. [00:10:09] rebcart: you dont want to give xsplit up do you
  614. [00:10:14] metaconstruct: map tatsu face on globe
  615. [00:10:19] metaconstruct: spin spin spin
  616. [00:10:34] farjuan: I'm surprised you didn't make a pokemon pinball hold on
  617. [00:10:36] bananaburger: tim try to crop something in obs
  618. [00:10:36] pimanrules: OBS has keyboard shortcuts
  619. [00:10:40] deathsheeps: Haha
  620. [00:10:41] bigfatanimal: doesnt studio have buttons
  621. [00:10:42] rebcart: are you limited on the amount of buttons
  622. [00:10:42] themodernhero: Amazing
  623. [00:10:46] bananaburger: you'll never want to use it seriously for anything
  624. [00:10:50] it_is_fanatic: tim has a big butt-on
  625. [00:10:53] kawaiichouchou: who doesn't love big buttons?
  626. [00:10:56] afluhatinrapper: will you ever run out of buttons?
  627. [00:11:02] afluhatinrapper: oh
  628. [00:11:08] communitycirclejerk: oh
  629. [00:11:09] shimmerfairy: Maybe I should get into contributing to OBS just to add all the features Tim needs :P
  630. [00:11:15] popipon: oh
  631. [00:11:16] luna_moona: (puke)
  632. [00:11:19] metaconstruct: pepsi screen v.v
  633. [00:11:23] it_is_fanatic: still cant be bothered to save chat tho
  634. [00:11:26] ethernetseeds: timNoChange
  635. [00:11:27] farjuan: shenmue stream inc.
  636. [00:11:27] shimmerfairy: Stream another Dreamcast game, like say Omikron. (no don't)
  637. [00:11:30] youngestchild: Oddly specific b-roll
  638. [00:11:36] seri__: just checked, 3d transforms are planned in obs but not implemented yet
  639. [00:11:54] ethernetseeds: hahaha
  640. [00:11:55] murugo: But I don't have an Xsplit license
  641. [00:12:01] metaconstruct: neither do i
  642. [00:12:05] pimanrules: If you wanted to go with the stupid HTML idea... http://spookle.xyz/dumb/thisisdumb.html
  643. [00:12:12] communitycirclejerk: oh god what would the 3d transform be like on the vib ribbon hold on, @StereotoneTim ?
  644. [00:12:14] shimmerfairy: dumb.dumb/dumb
  645. [00:12:24] communitycirclejerk: haHAA
  646. [00:12:26] luaduck: HaHa
  647. [00:12:30] bananaburger: haha wow
  648. [00:12:35] skystairway: ooh
  649. [00:12:41] reecer6: "This Twitch user has just set their relationship to dating you"
  650. [00:12:44] youngestchild: HAAaaaa... uh
  651. [00:12:49] luna_moona: RED
  652. [00:12:55] perciacalos: timPlus
  653. [00:13:07] monotonetim: https://i.imgur.com/CBFcC2B.png
  654. [00:13:51] pimanrules: refresh
  655. [00:13:52] reecer6: Looks fine on my Firefox.
  656. [00:13:55] bananaburger: microsoft browsers are making a comeback baby
  657. [00:13:56] skygtr350: E D G E
  658. [00:13:56] youngestchild: ACTION has a slight idea what you're attempting but hope you accomplish the thing!
  659. [00:14:06] deathsheeps: Opera my boi
  660. [00:14:07] skygtr350: TITLE T
  661. [00:14:11] it_is_fanatic: WEEEEEEEEEE
  662. [00:14:19] sensuna84: Is this a prelude to an official Tim stream tonight? :)
  663. [00:14:19] kawaiichouchou: bigjFAST
  664. [00:14:21] bonfiredes_: some fast clouds
  665. [00:14:23] reecer6: Using Edge is equivalent to handing my dignity directly to Bill Gates' trash can.
  666. [00:14:24] ethernetseeds: FAST FAST FAST
  667. [00:14:26] deathsheeps: Ow, my eyes
  668. [00:14:27] 13thmarc: Tornado clouds
  669. [00:14:28] pimanrules: confirmed: this was a terrible idea
  670. [00:14:38] reecer6: that's what the foreground's like
  671. [00:15:31] pimanrules: it does run buttery in Edge, though, you're right
  672. [00:15:41] ethernetseeds: xsplon't won't do what obs does
  673. [00:16:43] bananaburger: studio mode means you can make changes before other people see them
  674. [00:16:52] rebcart: xsplit had a huge edge over OBS until OBS added studio mode
  675. [00:17:15] pimanrules: OBS has a lossless quality output setting
  676. [00:17:24] rebcart: being able to edit scenes without anyone seeing was pretty cool
  677. [00:17:29] pimanrules: under recording quality
  678. [00:17:42] shimmerfairy: OBS joins what X-splits.
  679. [00:17:48] skygtr350: Ask Rio to fix it for you while playing Sea Shells
  680. [00:17:50] goatsentercx: Obs is open source so wins by default
  681. [00:17:56] seri__: edge uses the windows compositing engine for websites (same stuff used for window animations and apps), so thats why it runs better for fullscreen stuff
  682. [00:18:55] ttiewinwt: hey everyone, whats tim doing?
  683. [00:19:01] doubleinfinity: last night my little cousins and I were out dancing in the snow to your hold on screens' music, so that was honestly pretty cute.
  684. [00:19:08] jencis0: its ok tim. Humans cant see more than 30 fps anyway
  685. [00:19:23] rebcart: i thought it was 25fps, thats why all movies are 25
  686. [00:19:27] skygtr350: yet
  687. [00:19:30] rebcart: its to match the human eye
  688. [00:19:33] driftforfun6: It's true.
  689. [00:19:33] shimmerfairy: @doubleinfinity You should play Cave Story with them, then. :)
  690. [00:19:46] ttiewinwt: @doubleinfinity PedoBear
  691. [00:19:57] rg802: Who is this "mono" tone character. I come for Stereo quality
  692. [00:20:22] seri__: 50mbit/s MiniK
  693. [00:20:36] rebcart: maybe its backspace not delete
  694. [00:20:39] shimmerfairy: backspace?
  695. [00:20:39] popipon: use backspace
  696. [00:20:46] rintezuka1: record through obs in lossless and then render it in vegas?
  697. [00:20:49] goatsentercx: Cheap stereotone knockoff
  698. [00:20:52] zorhail: alt+f4?
  699. [00:21:00] seri__: you gotta select it in the list i think
  700. [00:21:00] zorhail: ctrl+w?
  701. [00:21:06] skygtr350: timOh
  702. [00:21:11] pimanrules: you can click the actual thing and then hit delete...
  703. [00:21:13] wingsofjanitor: protectin' ya from yourself
  704. [00:21:16] seri__: yup that
  705. [00:22:47] shimmerfairy: Hitching differently would probably be less jarring, I'd think.
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