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  1. (17:26:41) Mysterious M: So
  2. (17:26:47) Mysterious M: are you ready to start
  3. (17:26:49) [TR]Hassin627: I am
  4. (17:26:52) [TR]Hassin627: sensei
  5. (17:26:55) Mysterious M: alright :)
  6. (17:27:06) Mysterious M: before we start tell what is your experience in ubers
  7. (17:27:26) [TR]Hassin627: It was actually the tier i started off when I joined po like 5-6 years ago
  8. (17:27:32) [TR]Hassin627: I was pretty bad tho
  9. (17:27:40) [TR]Hassin627: used shit like ludicolo and magnezone
  10. (17:27:54) [TR]Hassin627: I got better over the time but
  11. (17:27:54) Mysterious M: oh lol
  12. (17:27:58) [TR]Hassin627: never really that good
  13. (17:28:06) Mysterious M: i am here to make you good tho
  14. (17:28:08) [TR]Hassin627: then, like 1 year ago, i really got bored of it
  15. (17:28:12) [TR]Hassin627: And picked up ou
  16. (17:28:16) [TR]Hassin627: and since then ou is my main
  17. (17:28:21) Mysterious M: ah i see
  18. (17:28:30) Mysterious M: what about the Oras meta?
  19. (17:28:39) [TR]Hassin627: Yeah im not too unfamiliar with it
  20. (17:28:55) [TR]Hassin627: Actually
  21. (17:29:06) Mysterious M: basicly it is nothing special or hard
  22. (17:29:16) [TR]Hassin627: the main reason why I applied as tutee was to get the teambuilding stuff sickered in
  23. (17:29:29) [TR]Hassin627: as you may already know,
  24. (17:29:33) [TR]Hassin627: i suck at teambuilding
  25. (17:29:37) Mysterious M: haha
  26. (17:29:43) Mysterious M: i will help you get good in that
  27. (17:29:53) [TR]Hassin627: glad to hear
  28. (17:29:56) Mysterious M: but what i teach my tutees
  29. (17:30:02) Mysterious M: and what i do in ubers
  30. (17:30:09) Mysterious M: is having a strategy in each game
  31. (17:30:18) Mysterious M: i mean
  32. (17:30:33) Mysterious M: my goal, apart from teaching you teambuilding
  33. (17:30:58) Mysterious M: is that when you get to play someone, from team preview you will have in mind, what steps you need to take or the general plan, so you can win
  34. (17:31:12) [TR]Hassin627: I do have that mindset tho
  35. (17:31:20) [TR]Hassin627: like, in every game i take seriously
  36. (17:31:24) Mysterious M: Thats is great to hear
  37. (17:32:03) Mysterious M: so uhm before we step into teambuilding you need to know a bit about this scene
  38. (17:32:22) Mysterious M: there are some standard staff that a team must have, so it can be competitive
  39. (17:33:01) Mysterious M: as you can imagine, a team without an answer/check for Xerneas, cant be viable.
  40. (17:33:14) [TR]Hassin627: yeah totally
  41. (17:33:22) Mysterious M: So, even when building ho or offense
  42. (17:33:38) Mysterious M: you must always have a backbone to be able to deal with a xern setting up
  43. (17:33:44) Mysterious M: What playstyle do you prefer?
  44. (17:34:01) [TR]Hassin627: i mostly prefer offense, ho or balance
  45. (17:34:11) Mysterious M: Great.
  46. (17:34:15) [TR]Hassin627: I cant play with stall, as my playstyle is mostly aggressive
  47. (17:34:24) Mysterious M: I used to be a staller, but now i am more into balance
  48. (17:34:26) [TR]Hassin627: so i do unnecessary switches and shit
  49. (17:34:34) [TR]Hassin627: To get momentum
  50. (17:34:39) Mysterious M: Yeah i understand
  51. (17:34:40) [TR]Hassin627: yeah lol i actually remember
  52. (17:34:44) [TR]Hassin627: you always had
  53. (17:34:47) [TR]Hassin627: those stall teams
  54. (17:34:48) [TR]Hassin627: sigh
  55. (17:34:51) [TR]Hassin627: made me cry
  56. (17:34:51) Mysterious M: haha
  57. (17:34:59) Mysterious M: have you tried
  58. (17:35:08) Mysterious M: building any oras ubers on your own?
  59. (17:35:32) [TR]Hassin627: Yeah I did, but I think not on this phone
  60. (17:35:35) [TR]Hassin627: So I dont have it
  61. (17:35:52) Mysterious M: ah ok, in another session, we can rate it and explain weaknesses etc
  62. (17:36:03) [TR]Hassin627: alright
  63. (17:36:11) Mysterious M: so lemme throw in some info regarding what a solid team should have
  64. (17:36:16) [TR]Hassin627: go abead
  65. (17:36:17) [TR]Hassin627: ahead
  66. (17:36:22) Mysterious M: Lets say you want to build a balance
  67. (17:36:35) Mysterious M: You will need:
  68. (17:38:01) Mysterious M: Xerneas check/answer | E-killer check | Perhaps a good rocker so you can pressure the opponent | a defogger of your own, (specially if you have ho-oh, we will talk about this one)
  69. (17:38:36) Mysterious M: and for your offensive part. A physical and a special sweeper, which with some good support from the team, can open some holes and get you the win
  70. (17:38:57) Mysterious M: Also, your team HAS to have a sleep absorber or darkrai check.
  71. (17:39:30) Mysterious M: Are those points clear?
  72. (17:39:34) [TR]Hassin627: yes
  73. (17:39:55) Mysterious M: Once a team has those covered, it is decent. Therefore you search for any further weaknesses
  74. (17:40:29) Mysterious M: I also forgot to add that you should be prepared for a pdon too, with 99% of usage. But usually defogger + pdon check go together.
  75. (17:40:49) Mysterious M: are we ok with that?
  76. (17:40:58) [TR]Hassin627: we are
  77. (17:41:16) Mysterious M: from those points, you can understand why pdon is at 99%
  78. (17:41:23) Mysterious M: cover the rock setter / xern check
  79. (17:41:35) Mysterious M: and can also provide offensive pressure, so it is a must.
  80. (17:42:06) Mysterious M: The usual set for balance, is the T-wave variant pdon.
  81. (17:42:36) [TR]Hassin627: the blades/eq, rocks, twave and lava set?
  82. (17:43:03) Mysterious M: Yes, but stone edge/rock slide is kinda more effective
  83. (17:43:10) Mysterious M: since the lava set cant touch ho oh
  84. (17:43:16) [TR]Hassin627: i see
  85. (17:43:39) Mysterious M: do you have any questions
  86. (17:43:45) Mysterious M: regarding the use of any mons
  87. (17:43:47) Mysterious M: or sets
  88. (17:43:52) Mysterious M: or whetever
  89. (17:43:54) [TR]Hassin627: do you mean like
  90. (17:44:01) [TR]Hassin627: what a set is supposed to be good for?
  91. (17:44:19) Mysterious M: Yeah or perhaps how can a bronzong help
  92. (17:44:24) Mysterious M: or why do i use mega gengar a lot
  93. (17:44:25) Mysterious M: etc
  94. (17:44:46) [TR]Hassin627: Well i guess bronzong is a perfect xern check
  95. (17:44:49) Mysterious M: i want you to have cleared in mind, the role of each mon
  96. (17:44:52) [TR]Hassin627: but actually my question is
  97. (17:45:13) [TR]Hassin627: why do people run defensive xern with rest and sleep talk
  98. (17:45:21) [TR]Hassin627: i could see spdef xern for darkrais
  99. (17:45:23) [TR]Hassin627: but why def
  100. (17:45:53) Mysterious M: defense is because of the arceus going around
  101. (17:45:55) Mysterious M: mainly.
  102. (17:46:09) Mysterious M: an lo ekiller can do 40% without def evs
  103. (17:46:26) Mysterious M: and in rest you may have some blank turns, so you need to be able to tank hits
  104. (17:47:02) [TR]Hassin627: ah i see
  105. (17:47:05) [TR]Hassin627: thanks
  106. (17:47:08) Mysterious M: rest sleep talk, is not the best set imo. Rest with block can have a better result
  107. (17:47:26) Mysterious M: Have you tried it?
  108. (17:47:37) [TR]Hassin627: yeah i actually did once
  109. (17:47:44) [TR]Hassin627: trapped a klefki
  110. (17:47:52) [TR]Hassin627: proceeded to sweep after 3 geos
  111. (17:47:52) Mysterious M: Yeah thats how it works :)
  112. (17:48:39) Mysterious M: so any other questions before we can try and build something?
  113. (17:49:07) [TR]Hassin627: is there actually any check to double dance don
  114. (17:49:26) Mysterious M: hmm
  115. (17:49:53) Mysterious M: there is nothing that it can wall it completely
  116. (17:49:57) Mysterious M: there are two cases
  117. (17:50:27) Mysterious M: one where you check is an arceus support, in which you have the don toxiced, and then you play around the 50-50s with preciple and stone edge
  118. (17:51:07) Mysterious M: the other one, where you check is a latios /latias, where pdon will get hit by a draco, will kill your latios and then you revenge with extremespeed
  119. (17:51:21) Mysterious M: if it setups with full health, there is like 99% to say gg :P
  120. (17:51:31) [TR]Hassin627: what about zong?
  121. (17:51:52) Mysterious M: zong can take a hit or two
  122. (17:52:10) Mysterious M: but in the end it will die, and you will be xern weak.
  123. (17:52:22) [TR]Hassin627: alright thanks
  124. (17:52:29) [TR]Hassin627: i think thats all questions i have atm
  125. (17:52:35) Mysterious M: Alright
  126. (17:52:44) Mysterious M: also after we build a team or two
  127. (17:52:58) Mysterious M: i set you up to battle UPL players
  128. (17:53:03) Mysterious M: so we can see how you do ;)
  129. (17:53:25) Mysterious M: but we will work also on the strategy a bit before that
  130. (17:53:49) [TR]Hassin627: please give me the worst one so I dont get completely annihilated
  131. (17:54:07) Mysterious M: You will be in a good level by then, dont worry
  132. (17:54:25) Mysterious M: this will depend on you and how seriously or not you will take this
  133. (17:54:35) Mysterious M: i will give you my evrything tho :)
  134. (17:54:44) [TR]Hassin627: yeah me too bro :]
  135. (17:54:53) Mysterious M: So, wanna proceed with build a team?
  136. (17:54:59) [TR]Hassin627: sure
  137. (17:55:12) Mysterious M: Alright, tell me around which one would you like to
  138. (17:55:22) [TR]Hassin627: uh
  139. (17:55:25) [TR]Hassin627: eh
  140. (17:55:40) [TR]Hassin627: is blaziken any good in this meta
  141. (17:55:46) [TR]Hassin627: Ive never used it in ubers
  142. (17:55:48) [TR]Hassin627: ever
  143. (17:55:52) Mysterious M: hmm not really to be honest
  144. (17:55:56) [TR]Hassin627: rip
  145. (17:56:06) Mysterious M: it needs crazy support
  146. (17:56:18) Mysterious M: and still it wont be able to pull it through most of the time
  147. (17:56:31) [TR]Hassin627: LOL LETS RUN HAZARDSTACKING + DEFIANT THUNDURUS
  148. (17:56:38) [TR]Hassin627: im kidding dont kill me
  149. (17:57:00) Mysterious M: hahah
  150. (17:57:05) [TR]Hassin627: lets make a team around double dance don
  151. (17:57:37) Mysterious M: hmm alright
  152. (17:58:04) [TR]Hassin627: we dont have to if you think its not viable
  153. (17:58:17) Mysterious M: No it is not a viability thing
  154. (17:58:26) Mysterious M: it is that don is in most teams
  155. (17:58:35) Mysterious M: idk if you can actually build around it
  156. (17:58:37) Mysterious M: but we can try
  157. (17:58:59) [TR]Hassin627: wanna build around ray then?
  158. (17:59:04) [TR]Hassin627: all i want is a set up sweeper
  159. (17:59:11) [TR]Hassin627: i dont actually care if its not don
  160. (17:59:16) Mysterious M: ok
  161. (17:59:20) Mysterious M: a physical one?
  162. (17:59:32) [TR]Hassin627: i guess
  163. (17:59:42) [TR]Hassin627: ive never seen a special ray before
  164. (17:59:53) [TR]Hassin627: what does it even carry besides possibly surf?
  165. (17:59:53) Mysterious M: There are lo variations
  166. (17:59:59) Mysterious M: with draco meteor
  167. (18:00:12) Mysterious M: to catch physical walls off guard
  168. (18:00:32) [TR]Hassin627: yo thats actually heat
  169. (18:00:53) Mysterious M: haha
  170. (18:01:03) Mysterious M: but it is not a winning condition tho
  171. (18:01:10) Mysterious M: it is to apply pressure
  172. (18:01:14) [TR]Hassin627: damn
  173. (18:01:16) Mysterious M: wanna build around it?
  174. (18:01:19) [TR]Hassin627: yeah sure
  175. (18:01:21) [TR]Hassin627: lets do that
  176. (18:01:40) Mysterious M: so lo mixed ray
  177. (18:02:04) Mysterious M: or another heat set
  178. (18:02:07) Mysterious M: is the banded
  179. (18:02:08) Mysterious M: one
  180. (18:02:12) Mysterious M: lol so many options haha
  181. (18:02:17) [TR]Hassin627: AYE FAM
  182. (18:02:19) [TR]Hassin627: Lets run banded
  183. (18:02:24) Mysterious M: haha ok
  184. (18:02:41) [TR]Hassin627: it 2hkos dons right?
  185. (18:02:44) [TR]Hassin627: it should imo
  186. (18:02:46) Mysterious M: Also the most important aspect of team building is evs
  187. (18:02:51) Mysterious M: aqua tail 1hkos
  188. (18:02:57) [TR]Hassin627: o
  189. (18:02:59) [TR]Hassin627: true
  190. (18:03:01) [TR]Hassin627: it gets that
  191. (18:03:08) Mysterious M: dragon ascent does 60-65% to klefkis switching in
  192. (18:03:12) Mysterious M: it is real heat
  193. (18:03:16) [TR]Hassin627: dayum
  194. (18:03:25) [TR]Hassin627: what a god
  195. (18:03:27) Mysterious M: so lemme post here a set
  196. (18:03:40) Mysterious M: Rayquaza @ Choice Band
  197. (18:03:40) Mysterious M: Ability: Air Lock
  198. (18:03:40) Mysterious M: EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
  199. (18:03:40) Mysterious M: Jolly Nature
  200. (18:03:40) Mysterious M: - Dragon Ascent
  201. (18:03:40) Mysterious M: - Extreme Speed
  202. (18:03:40) Mysterious M: - Aqua Tail
  203. (18:03:40) Mysterious M: - V-create
  204. (18:04:30) [TR]Hassin627: v-create is for ferros and skarms
  205. (18:04:32) [TR]Hassin627: ?*
  206. (18:04:43) Tiers have been updated!
  207. (18:04:45) Mysterious M: Yeah
  208. (18:04:49) Mysterious M: or klefkis
  209. (18:05:01) Mysterious M: if you predict the switch in
  210. (18:05:17) Mysterious M: generaly, ray is there to pressure in early or mid game
  211. (18:05:35) [TR]Hassin627: Cant it work as a soft late game sweeper with espeed?
  212. (18:05:41) [TR]Hassin627: when opp team is weakened like shit
  213. (18:05:52) Mysterious M: hm yes if he is weakened it can work
  214. (18:05:58) [TR]Hassin627: this makes me think
  215. (18:06:03) Mysterious M: but dont overate it
  216. (18:06:04) [TR]Hassin627: wanna build it around spikestacking?
  217. (18:06:10) [TR]Hassin627: or is that not good in ubers
  218. (18:06:16) Mysterious M: rocks will be enough
  219. (18:06:29) Mysterious M: the point is to double switch it in to opps defoger
  220. (18:06:53) Mysterious M: all support arceus have 310 speed, while ray 317. dragon ascent 2hkos them
  221. (18:07:24) [TR]Hassin627: why do they run 310 when only like 32 more evs ensure them the outspeed
  222. (18:08:16) Mysterious M: because they dont prepare for rays
  223. (18:08:26) Mysterious M: they have 310 or 307, so they can outspeed the primals
  224. (18:08:41) [TR]Hassin627: got it
  225. (18:09:01) Mysterious M: so pairing Ray with Don is nice
  226. (18:09:20) Mysterious M: since it can be a cool switch in for xerneas, and at the same time set up some rocks
  227. (18:09:58) [TR]Hassin627: I see
  228. (18:10:34) [TR]Hassin627: are megas actually important in ubers?
  229. (18:11:05) Mysterious M: Hm
  230. (18:11:07) Mysterious M: depends
  231. (18:11:13) Mysterious M: mega sala + mega gar
  232. (18:11:23) Mysterious M: are good with offense
  233. (18:11:31) Mysterious M: gar is cool with balance too
  234. (18:11:43) Mysterious M: Groudon @ Red Orb
  235. (18:11:43) Mysterious M: Ability: Drought
  236. (18:11:43) Mysterious M: EVs: 240 HP / 32 Atk / 148 SpD / 88 Spe
  237. (18:11:43) Mysterious M: Adamant Nature
  238. (18:11:43) Mysterious M: - Stealth Rock
  239. (18:11:43) Mysterious M: - Precipice Blades
  240. (18:11:43) Mysterious M: - Thunder Wave
  241. (18:11:43) Mysterious M: - Stone Edge
  242. (18:11:53) Mysterious M: this is a set i like using for pdon
  243. (18:12:36) [TR]Hassin627: what foes hitting 238 speed accomplish?
  244. (18:12:51) [TR]Hassin627: does
  245. (18:12:55) Mysterious M: mainly outspeeding other pdons, i like having more speed
  246. (18:13:02) Mysterious M: all support pdon have a bit less
  247. (18:13:29) [TR]Hassin627: the spdefs are for taking 2 +2 moonblasts i assume?
  248. (18:13:34) Mysterious M: Yeah
  249. (18:13:55) Mysterious M: if you want we can try a heat set for pdon
  250. (18:14:02) Mysterious M: make it special attacker
  251. (18:14:15) Mysterious M: and have a rock setter lead
  252. (18:14:25) [TR]Hassin627: Remember the smashpass team lol?
  253. (18:14:29) Mysterious M: Yeah lol
  254. (18:14:41) Mysterious M: Exca + Ray works well
  255. (18:14:52) [TR]Hassin627: Ah another question
  256. (18:14:56) Mysterious M: Sure
  257. (18:15:02) [TR]Hassin627: i see sash excas quite a lot
  258. (18:15:05) [TR]Hassin627: why?
  259. (18:15:13) [TR]Hassin627: just rocks lead?
  260. (18:15:23) Mysterious M: ensure there are rocks
  261. (18:15:27) Mysterious M: even with mega sabs
  262. (18:15:30) Mysterious M: or diancies
  263. (18:15:36) Mysterious M: plus you spin
  264. (18:15:52) [TR]Hassin627: But you still have a defoger in the back, right?
  265. (18:16:05) Mysterious M: if we make the team more offensive, there is no need
  266. (18:16:12) Mysterious M: if you have a ho oh, perhaps yeah
  267. (18:16:25) Mysterious M: but it is not common, or good to have spin + defog
  268. (18:17:08) [TR]Hassin627: i se
  269. (18:17:09) [TR]Hassin627: e
  270. (18:17:51) Mysterious M: how do you wish to proceed
  271. (18:18:02) Mysterious M: we can go with defoger, if you like using Ho oH
  272. (18:18:39) [TR]Hassin627: i guess we already have a banded mon, and i guess any other ho oh set isnt good on offense/balance?
  273. (18:19:42) Mysterious M: Lo ho oh can be solid in balance but yeah banded is better
  274. (18:20:17) [TR]Hassin627: i want to suggest mega mence but then we are weak to ice, arent we
  275. (18:20:33) [TR]Hassin627: cant switch in pdon on dem beams all day
  276. (18:20:42) Mysterious M: Mega Mence is good partner for ray
  277. (18:20:48) [TR]Hassin627: oh really?
  278. (18:20:52) Mysterious M: because it puts huge pressure
  279. (18:20:55) Mysterious M: on physical walls
  280. (18:21:12) Mysterious M: So we can go with Ray + Mega Mence + Pdon
  281. (18:21:17) [TR]Hassin627: Doesnt lugia actually destroy our team right now
  282. (18:21:20) Mysterious M: and then cover the weaknesses
  283. (18:21:20) [TR]Hassin627: with ice beam
  284. (18:21:28) [TR]Hassin627: and toxic roost
  285. (18:21:31) Mysterious M: Yeah it does up to now
  286. (18:22:02) Mysterious M: thats the nice part of teambuilding, you always find new threats, and change the team to become solid
  287. (18:22:14) Mysterious M: really happy to see you can identify weaknesses
  288. (18:22:25) [TR]Hassin627: I got traumatized by lugia
  289. (18:22:35) [TR]Hassin627: ill never lose to that shit again
  290. (18:22:40) Mysterious M: so look
  291. (18:22:47) Mysterious M: we can add a klefki
  292. (18:23:05) Mysterious M: which can help with spikes/xerneas/safe lugia switch in
  293. (18:23:09) Mysterious M: and also with darkrai
  294. (18:23:27) [TR]Hassin627: spikes, twave, toxic, play rough?
  295. (18:23:47) Mysterious M: Yeah
  296. (18:23:56) Mysterious M: with 252 hp sp def
  297. (18:24:01) [TR]Hassin627: alright cool, lets add that
  298. (18:24:16) Mysterious M: Now we will need a solid defogger
  299. (18:24:25) Mysterious M: which will help with handling pdon too
  300. (18:24:53) [TR]Hassin627: gira?
  301. (18:25:00) [TR]Hassin627: gira-o
  302. (18:25:11) [TR]Hassin627: Idk about defoger
  303. (18:25:18) [TR]Hassin627: gira is like the only one i know
  304. (18:25:24) Mysterious M: gira-o can be good, but usually arceus support formes
  305. (18:25:28) [TR]Hassin627: oh right
  306. (18:25:33) Mysterious M: are better, because they can recover
  307. (18:25:40) Mysterious M: which form do you think will help
  308. (18:25:47) [TR]Hassin627: probs water?
  309. (18:25:53) Mysterious M: Yeap
  310. (18:26:12) Mysterious M: also our ho oh switch in
  311. (18:27:16) [TR]Hassin627: do we run ice beam or judgement?
  312. (18:27:23) [TR]Hassin627: or neither
  313. (18:27:40) Mysterious M: ice beam so you can both get chip damage in pdon, as well as hit hard sala + ray
  314. (18:27:59) [TR]Hassin627: yeah thats what I was thinking
  315. (18:28:11) Mysterious M: Ray + Mega Sala + Klefki + Primal Don + Arceus Water
  316. (18:28:34) [TR]Hassin627: you mentioned a sleep absorbe
  317. (18:28:35) [TR]Hassin627: r
  318. (18:28:52) [TR]Hassin627: do we need that because we have klefki to cripple darkrai
  319. (18:28:59) [TR]Hassin627: i dont even know
  320. (18:29:14) Mysterious M: We do have it but it will be hard to switch into dark void
  321. (18:29:34) Mysterious M: And also, we dont have a really solid Arceus check
  322. (18:29:45) Mysterious M: sala can do the work by switching in with intimidate
  323. (18:30:14) Mysterious M: So we will need a bulky one
  324. (18:30:19) [TR]Hassin627: how about yveltal?
  325. (18:30:27) [TR]Hassin627: as ekiller check
  326. (18:30:33) Mysterious M: Yveltal can be a solid check
  327. (18:31:34) Mysterious M: it can be either charti or rocky helmet
  328. (18:32:40) [TR]Hassin627: honestly i prefer charti because stone edges crit chance at crucial times is like 120%
  329. (18:33:12) Mysterious M: Yeah usually it is prefered.
  330. (18:33:28) Mysterious M: So lets se the team overall and scout for weaknesses
  331. (18:33:45) [TR]Hassin627: alright
  332. (18:33:55) Mysterious M: Rayquaza | Primal Groudon | Mega Salamence | Yveltal | Klefki | Arceus-Water
  333. (18:34:18) [TR]Hassin627: Does yveltal have sucker?
  334. (18:34:23) Mysterious M: Yes
  335. (18:34:34) Mysterious M: but defensive set does not hit so hard
  336. (18:34:43) [TR]Hassin627: still kills mmy, tho?
  337. (18:34:46) Mysterious M: Yeah
  338. (18:35:05) Mysterious M: Some pains in the ass for this team
  339. (18:35:11) Mysterious M: Darkrai can be annoying
  340. (18:35:15) Mysterious M: Mega Diancie too
  341. (18:35:42) Mysterious M: You have the waterceus as the switch in for it
  342. (18:36:00) Mysterious M: but for darkrai, you will have to put something to sleep and then go to klefki
  343. (18:36:10) Mysterious M: which is annoying
  344. (18:36:57) [TR]Hassin627: actually, what do we do against waterceus
  345. (18:37:04) [TR]Hassin627: they just wisp everything
  346. (18:37:10) [TR]Hassin627: and our answer is toxicing it
  347. (18:37:20) [TR]Hassin627: and hope he doesnt have heal bell in the back
  348. (18:37:34) [TR]Hassin627: same with wisp normalceus
  349. (18:37:37) Mysterious M: waterceus doses not wisp
  350. (18:38:06) Mysterious M: waterceus has to have toxic, otherwise it can not touch the pdons
  351. (18:38:23) Mysterious M: normal arceus with wisp is like 0.001% usage
  352. (18:38:25) [TR]Hassin627: alright that is reassuring
  353. (18:38:38) Mysterious M: and if you want to cover every case, then use stall :P
  354. (18:38:50) [TR]Hassin627: ugh no thanks lol
  355. (18:39:04) Mysterious M: haha yea
  356. (18:39:45) [TR]Hassin627: we lose to smashpass lelelelelel
  357. (18:39:52) Mysterious M: well yeah fuck it
  358. (18:39:54) Mysterious M: lol
  359. (18:39:57) [TR]Hassin627: lmao
  360. (18:39:59) [TR]Hassin627: alright
  361. (18:40:05) [TR]Hassin627: any other major flaws you spot?
  362. (18:40:21) Mysterious M: no only darkrai can be annoying
  363. (18:40:29) Mysterious M: if you see you are too weak to it
  364. (18:40:44) Mysterious M: we can change a bit the team, or even add sleep talk on pdon
  365. (18:41:10) [TR]Hassin627: nah we will play around it somehow
  366. (18:41:21) Mysterious M: Yeah we sure will
  367. (18:41:38) [TR]Hassin627: do you remember
  368. (18:41:42) [TR]Hassin627: that one time
  369. (18:41:46) Mysterious M: give me some mins to build the team with proper evs etc
  370. (18:41:57) [TR]Hassin627: where i asked you for a team and then we faced each other
  371. (18:42:05) [TR]Hassin627: and you actually brought a team weak to the one you gave me
  372. (18:42:08) [TR]Hassin627: i died
  373. (18:42:36) Mysterious M: hahaha
  374. (18:42:39) Mysterious M: yeah
  375. (18:42:47) Mysterious M: i did not expect you to actually bring it
  376. (18:42:48) Mysterious M: :P
  377. (18:42:51) [TR]Hassin627: lmao
  378. (18:42:56) Mysterious M: brb making the team
  379. (18:43:01) [TR]Hassin627: lright
  380. (18:52:17) Mysterious M: Ok
  381. (18:52:30) Mysterious M: took me sometime, i wanted to find the best eved bulky sala
  382. (18:52:32) Mysterious M: http://pastebin.com/w7PFytxJ
  383. (18:52:50) Mysterious M: so you can setup on ho oh or arceus or primal
  384. (18:52:55) [TR]Hassin627: is it possible for you to give me an /importable
  385. (18:53:02) [TR]Hassin627: its the only way to import it on android
  386. (18:53:04) Mysterious M: if one of their checks is down on sleeps
  387. (18:53:06) Mysterious M: ok
  388. (18:54:24) ±Dratini: You team can be found here: http://server.pokemon-online.eu/team/1461600284-5010.txt Remember this will be deleted in 24 hours
  389. (18:54:32) Mysterious M: http://server.pokemon-online.eu/team/1461600284-5010.txt
  390. (18:54:34) Mysterious M: there you go
  391. (18:54:47) Mysterious M: i think that sums it up for our first session
  392. (18:55:43) [TR]Hassin627: thanks bro
  393. (18:55:48) [TR]Hassin627: this was a fun session
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