Rosalinda

[00:17:45] Desiree: *pokes*
[00:17:56] Nessie: Hello Desiree.
[00:18:24] Desiree: hia nessie (I would say your actual name buuuut I don't know that xD )
[00:18:33] Nessie: (Sophya) x3
[00:18:44] Nessie: What's up?^^
[00:18:50] Desiree: hia Sophya :D
[00:18:57] Nessie: Hia :D
[00:19:49] Desiree: not much just working on some summer stuff. Random but my family may be visiting Denmark soonish (not sure if we're also going to Denmark or just Norway, Sweden and Finland)
[00:20:10] Nessie: :o
[00:20:12] Nessie: Cool. ^^
[00:20:26] Desiree: anything new with you? :>
[00:21:03] Nessie: Not really, no.
[00:21:15] Nessie: Except I'm going for boarding school the next entire year. e_e
[00:21:29] Desiree: o-o how come?
[00:22:05] Nessie: Because I decided so? :D
[00:23:33] Desiree: XD that would be a good reason. Just wondering if it was because of something (although that doesn't make sense, almost sounds like I'm disreagarding your reasoning as not "something". Arg, just ignore me)
[00:24:19] Desiree: this is what I get like when doing actual thinking work. I start over-thinking everything ._.
[00:27:47] Nessie: >_>
[00:28:02] Nessie: Soeh, did you have an actual reason to start a conversation? :P
[00:28:11] Nessie: (that totally didn't sound mean)
[00:29:12] Desiree: xD ish fine, in all honesty, no. I got boared and decided to poke the first person on my friends list... and you were the first victum I spotted! :D
[00:29:17] Desiree: sorry xD
[00:29:33] Nessie: Ok? D:
[00:30:31] Desiree: I'm random to a degree that drives most of the people I know irl somewhat crazy xD
[00:30:49] Nessie: You are driving me crazy.
[00:30:53] Nessie: Though I think we both know why.
[00:31:26 | Redigerede 00:31:31] Desiree: xD again sorry (although I am giggling quite a bit from our convo)
[00:31:37] Nessie: ...
[00:32:31] Desiree: Desiree grins and flees
[00:36:47] Nessie: ffs Desi.
[00:36:53] Desiree: wah? xD
[00:40:34] Nessie: You seem to want to tell me something, though you're not sure how to tell it to me as you're not prepared for my reaction.
[00:41:46] Nessie: So..
[00:41:48] Nessie: Do tell me.
[00:41:56] Nessie: What do you want to tell me?
[00:42:58] Desiree: honestly though, I did not have anything besides that random comment about Denmark. Right now I'm just kinda hyper/habby/bored out of my mind so I get like this.
[00:43:01] Desiree: ^^;
[00:44:21] Nessie: Ok.
[00:44:25] Nessie: Why did you stop being on IRC?
[00:48:58] Desiree: sorry just got back from grabbing the mail. Not sure if this is an acceptable reason, but I felt almost as if it didn't quite feel right for me to stay on irc since I alienated myself from the community
[00:49:23] Nessie: That's bullshit and you know it.
[00:50:23] Nessie: There is no fucking reason for you to not be welcome at QubeTubers.
[00:50:37] Nessie: The problem here is Patric, which has nothing to do with you.
[00:50:46] Nessie: At least not in this sense.
[00:52:03] Desiree: it might be bullshit but that's what my brain kept telling me (neverming what heart/logic/any other emotion says) And I know the orriginal problem was with Patric... just (ack, this it when logic and the ability to put words to what the hell I'm thinking generally flies out the window)
[00:52:38] Nessie: So essentially he's dragging you away from QT?
[00:52:41] Nessie: Because that's how I see it.
[00:53:03] Nessie: Whether you like it or not.
[00:53:36] Desiree: no he's not, he's like you, still not understanding why the hell I decided to do all this
[00:53:51] Nessie: "Do all this"?
[00:54:04 | Redigerede 00:54:08] Desiree: pull myself away from QT
[00:55:03] Nessie: Do you understand why you're pulling yourself away from QT?
[00:58:17] Desiree: My own reasoning is stupid sounding to myself but it is the feeling of being almost an outsider. Like I'm just watching and even if you guys all are perfectly ok with me coming back I just draw back
[00:58:48 | Redigerede 00:58:53] Nessie: The only outsiders in this are the Mumble derps trying to figure out why Patric was site-banned.
[00:59:09] Desiree: how many derps are there? xD
[00:59:11] Nessie: Thus effectively turning it into a "Let's all hate Amaranthin" thing.
[01:00:02] Desiree: ._. hmmm that is a bit of an unfortunete side effect
[01:00:33] Nessie: What do you think of Amarathin; Is he "evil"?
[01:01:59] Nessie: What if I told you he looked at the overall picture?
[01:04:24 | Redigerede 01:04:26] Desiree: if he did, I would be surprised. Even more so because looking at the overall picture would be considering 3 years time. What I'd be even more curious to read/understand is his whole thought process during the entire thing
[01:07:07] Nessie: He did.
[01:07:34] Nessie: I have said this before and I will say it again: Pay close attention to Patric and what he does.
[01:09:23 | Redigerede 01:09:33] Desiree: then during the banning process could Amar not have touched on that rather than focusing his energy on ranting about the past?
[01:10:15 | Redigerede 01:10:46] Nessie: Forget about that fucking paste; It was nothing major.
[01:11:33] Desiree: I keep commenting on it because that seemed to be the main thing everyone else was focusing on (or at least it was the main point made)
[01:12:30] Nessie: You see.. often the things which have the largers publicity have the smallest impact.
[01:12:40] Nessie: TL;DR stop talking about the fucking paste
[01:12:56] Desiree: what is TL;DR?
[01:13:11] Nessie: Too Long; Didn't Read
[01:13:18] Desiree: ah
[01:13:38] Nessie: By now you should know about it.
[01:13:46] Nessie: I'm surprised you didn't.
[01:14:54] Desiree: Not the first time I've been left out of the loop and probably won't be the last XD
[01:15:23] Nessie: Maybe you should consider that Patric is exploiting you to keep you out of "the loop".
[01:16:35] Desiree: how would it be considered exploiting?
[01:16:57] Nessie: By keeping you out of the loop?
[01:17:19] Nessie: You obviously don't see what he's doing to you, thus he is exploiting your lack of knowledge.
[01:19:39] Desiree: That may be the case, although another thing to realize is he is not the same (or at least the Patric I've known for almsot a year now)
[01:20:07] Nessie: "That may be", no that *is* the case.
[01:20:39] Nessie: Even if he wasn't doing it to you, he still does it to everyone else, which is a serious problem.
[01:22:47] Desiree: so what now? since I am at a loss as to how to continue the conversation
[01:25:00] Nessie: So what now?
[01:26:52] Nessie: So now you either stay in your relationship with your abusive boyfriend, which (if it continues) is very likely to some day turn you into a wife being manipulated by your husband (Patric).
[01:26:57] Nessie: Let me give you an example.
[01:27:03] Nessie: > Patric hits you
[01:27:41] Nessie: > You make up excuses such as: "But he normally doesn't do this" "He just had a rough day at work" "he has always been nice to me".
[01:27:56] Nessie: I really hope you don't sink as low as that.
[01:28:00] Nessie: Oh wait, you're already doing that.
[01:28:01] Nessie: OR
[01:28:18] Nessie: You leave Patric and find someone not abusing you.
[01:28:29] Nessie: Either way I've had enough of you two.
[01:29:07] Desiree: at least you're honest
[01:29:16] Nessie: As I know you will be staying in this relationship and there is no fucking way I can change it.
[01:29:43] Nessie: "at least you're honest" .. you're effectively confirming me.
[01:30:05] Nessie: As I said before, I've had enough of this bullshit and if you ever change your mind, feel free to re-add me on Skype.
[01:30:07] Nessie: Goodbye.
[01:30:24] Desiree: bye, Sorry that a random hello turned into this

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01:59 - DeVelox: *throws a "random hello" in Rosa's general direction*
02:00 - Rosalinda is now Away.
02:00 - DeVelox: /facedesk
02:01 - Rosalinda: sooo you heard waht happened then? ^^;
02:01 - DeVelox: Nooo02:01 - Rosalinda: o-o
02:01 - Rosalinda: wow, that's what got nessie and I (eventually) into a large argument
02:02 - DeVelox: *smacks Rosa with a sarcasm stick*
02:02 - DeVelox: And no, it's not.
02:02 - DeVelox: It's you being naive as all hell.
02:02 - Rosalinda: ._.
02:02 - DeVelox: I'd like to pretend that I'm not annoyed with your behaviour at this point.
02:02 - DeVelox: But you're going way out of your way to prove a point that doesn't exist.
02:03 - DeVelox: I'm sorry but you keep talking about some "overall picture" and that sodding log.
02:03 - DeVelox: When in reality you're so biased that you (obviously) can't see it.
02:03 - DeVelox: I've said it before... I couldn't care less about whether or not you stay with Nahtan.
02:03 - DeVelox: But you're trying to argue the reasoning of a grown man trying to protect a community of mostly children from your beloved boyfriend.
02:03 - DeVelox: You're kinda outnumbered and outgunned here.
02:04 - DeVelox: What I'd like... well, heck I don't even care at this point...
02:04 - DeVelox: Is for you to at least try and see things the way they are.
02:04 - DeVelox: And as far as you leaving QT and such...
02:05 - DeVelox: Stop making up BS excuses like that... You were popular there and people liked you.
02:05 - DeVelox: This whole thing with Nahtan is what got you "alienated".
02:07 - Rosalinda: *sigh* I was leaving QT anyway, what's it matter if I decided not to come around again after weeks of not playing and instead make it public
02:07 - DeVelox: You really don't get it, do you?
02:07 - DeVelox: You weren't like this before...
02:07 - DeVelox: Used ot be friendly, chatty all the things you're not *now*.
02:08 - DeVelox: Since you got hooked up with Nahtan you broke up with Bom, strayed away from QT, deleted 90% of your contacts list...
02:08 - Rosalinda: I tried being chatty with Nessie today, see where that got me?
02:08 - DeVelox: I don't know what the hell is it you do with him that makes it worth it.
02:08 - DeVelox: What got you that is the past few months...
02:08 - DeVelox: Not this chat today.
02:08 - DeVelox: Stop twisting things.
02:10 - Rosalinda: The past few months I've been going into hiding, even before this whole mess. Does that help?
02:10 - DeVelox: No because it just proves my point.
02:10 - DeVelox: Nahtan in, Rosa out.
02:10 - DeVelox: I've talked to Bom about you and Nahtan way, way back.
02:10 - DeVelox: Like... WAY back.
02:10 - DeVelox: Before you two even got hooked up.
02:10 - DeVelox: He was worried that it might happen.
02:11 - DeVelox: Then when it did he was... well, confused I suppose.
02:11 - DeVelox: Or at least I was.
02:11 - DeVelox: But in all honesty, things with you just completely went downhill ever since those 24/7 calls with Nahtan started.
02:12 - DeVelox: Again, I don't give a flying fuck if you want ot be abused by him.
02:12 - DeVelox: But at least try to admit it to yourself. The possibility of it.
02:14 - Rosalinda: honestly the closest I can see to going downhill was much morerecently, right after I came back from my college trip. Father started drinking hevily, dog died, my own friends started ignoring me... yeah it was right about then that the shit hit the fan
02:15 - DeVelox: I doubt people started ignoring you unless they literally ignored your "pokes".
02:15 - DeVelox: If you just shut in, that's a different thing.
02:15 - DeVelox: I never ignored you, yet you never talked to me in any real sense.
02:16 - Rosalinda: somehow I think it's a little hard to misinterprite an ignore if I sent a few messages, tried calling them several times on different days and they still didn't talk to me (these are my friends irl)
02:16 - DeVelox: Well, maybe things went downhill before that and they noticed and weren't comfortable talking to you anymore?
02:17 - DeVelox: Because quite frankly your current attitude makes it rather difficult.
02:17 - DeVelox: Either way, I'm sure at least some of those people you deleted off Steam would have said hi in return.
02:18 - DeVelox: But whatever, if Nahtan is all you need... go for it.
02:18 - DeVelox: Just don't judge other people's opinions of him because they're far less biased.
02:19 - DeVelox: He doesn't belong on QT and can be glad he has people that put up with him.
02:19 - Rosalinda: or even simpler, avoid talking about it
02:19 - DeVelox: Save the energy you're wasting on defending him and use it elsewhere.
02:21 - DeVelox: I think we can both attest to how well "avoiding" things works...
02:21 - DeVelox: Feel free to do it but denial ain't a pretty place.
02:22 - DeVelox: You're fighting an uphill battle here and unless Nahtan is really such an angel as you're describing to back you up... I wouldn't want to be in your shoes.