7/16/2018
[7:28 PM] kim: hiya athena!
7/17/2018
[12:04 AM] kim: i feel like
[12:04 AM] kim: we'll only be able to talk in the morning :thinking:
[12:04 AM] kim: or my morning, that is
[12:04 AM] kim: bc you tend to sleep by the time im most free
[12:04 AM] kim: and vice versa
[12:26 PM] kim: get out of your wolf chat and stop ghosting me
[12:28 PM] Athena_57: Ah sorry, my scumbuddies were really nice so I got distracted by our deep conversations about the meaning of life.
[12:30 PM] Athena_57: How's it going?
[12:31 PM] kim: good~!
[12:31 PM] kim: how's your first game of oc :stuck_out_tongue:
[12:33 PM] Athena_57: Ehm, I'm starting to get into it a bit
[12:34 PM] Athena_57: I dont feel particuarly productive, but I'm sort of getting somewhere I feel
[12:36 PM] Athena_57: How do you feel about Evan's replies ITT? (If you've read them that is)
[12:37 PM] kim: i think evan itt is ok
[12:37 PM] kim: evan in dm is actually better
[12:37 PM] kim: if you want to form reads in dm
[12:37 PM] kim: a lot of my reads are developed from 1 on 1
[12:37 PM] kim: outside of thread
[12:37 PM] kim: also i would suggest reading game chat in the server
[12:37 PM] kim: bc stuff happens in there too
[12:37 PM] Athena_57: I skimmed it
[12:37 PM] Athena_57: Should I read it in more detail?
[12:38 PM] Athena_57: I guess that depends on how skimmy I've skimmed haha
[12:38 PM] kim: if you skimmed it it should be fine
[12:39 PM] kim: it was mostly
[12:39 PM] kim: the brooke vs snike
[12:39 PM] kim: stuff
[12:39 PM] Athena_57: Yeah, I've read Snike's stuff there
[12:40 PM] Athena_57: Though I can't say it gives me a strong grip on him
[12:40 PM] Athena_57: You?
[12:41 PM] kim: Snike is null to me, I've talked to 1/2 of the people and reached out to 2/3
[12:41 PM] kim: my leans rn are
[12:41 PM] kim: cam is towny
[12:41 PM] kim: amy/ampharos is towny
[12:41 PM] kim: yolo is towny
[12:41 PM] kim: lots of nulls
[12:41 PM] kim: elie lean scum
[12:42 PM] kim: most people have been super null but id still dunk o them imo
[12:42 PM] Athena_57: elieson is one of the few people I've talked to
[12:43 PM] kim: your thoughts?
[12:43 PM] Athena_57: He didn't say much, mostly nodded along with what I was saying I feel
[12:43 PM] Athena_57: Said he hadn't caught up/gotten into the flow, which could be the reason
[12:44 PM] Athena_57: As in, he said he was just catching up and felt like he hadnt gotten into the flow
[12:46 PM] Athena_57: TL;DR I'm waffling hard and don't really have a strong read, but approve of the wagon on him
[12:46 PM] kim: i see
[12:46 PM] kim: :GWchadThinkeyes:
[4:35 PM] Athena_57: Oh, I was curious, what about his PM-ing made you townread Evan?
[4:36 PM] kim: iirc i dont remember saying evan's in my tr pile (he's def lean-town) but my tr pile is reserved for cam yolo amy rn
[4:37 PM] kim: but he gave me authentic reads in dm imo
[4:37 PM] kim: and didnt dodge me :thinking:
[4:37 PM] kim:
Iris - Today at 12:16 AM
yo yo yo
im sleeping now
but respond in da morning
so we can chat
:muscle:
DaRealEvan - Today at 10:34 AM
Hey
Iris - Today at 12:16 PM
yo im here
DaRealEvan - Today at 12:16 PM
Hey
Iris - Today at 12:16 PM
yolo told me you read elijah v, we had a cagey convo, why do you read him v?
DaRealEvan - Today at 12:17 PM
I thought the way that he approached me at the very beginning of the game
He told me in public town "I'm lock town how about you"
He was engaging with me to engage with me and to get a read on me
And I think that's towny of him
I've also been deflecting thoughts off of him
[4:38 PM] Athena_57: Yeah, townread is a strong word, I meant this: "evan in dm is actually better"
[4:38 PM] Athena_57: But thank you
[1:21 PM] kim: yo
[1:23 PM] Athena_57: I'm in the middle of other conversations, sorry! I'll hit you up when I've got time later
[1:23 PM] kim: sure
[3:03 PM] kim: hello~
[4:15 PM] Athena_57: Hello
[4:15 PM] Athena_57: I'm available
[4:49 PM] kim: hello!
[4:49 PM] kim: so athena :GWchadThinkeyes:
[4:49 PM] Athena_57: yah
[4:49 PM] kim: where u 1)
[4:49 PM] kim: be on at deadline
[4:49 PM] Athena_57: I was originally going to be
[4:50 PM] Athena_57: But after the extension
[4:50 PM] Athena_57: no
[4:50 PM] kim: its back tothe original
[4:50 PM] Athena_57: oh
[4:50 PM] kim: yes
[4:50 PM] Athena_57: then I will be
[4:50 PM] kim: 2) as im sure you are aware, people are talking about siwtchig to you
[4:50 PM] kim: why shouldnt i
[4:50 PM] kim: :GWchadThinkeyes:
[4:50 PM] Athena_57: because all my behaviour is in line with town!me or at the very least NAI
[4:50 PM] Athena_57: waffling/jumpiness/OMGUS-ing and stuff
[4:50 PM] Athena_57: that's like
[4:50 PM] Athena_57: just how I play
[4:50 PM] Athena_57: definitly when I'm lost
[4:52 PM] kim: mm
[4:52 PM] kim: how was
[4:52 PM] kim: your convo wtih refa
[4:52 PM] kim: and can you share logs
[4:52 PM] kim: ?
[4:52 PM] kim: refa is another person of interest
[4:52 PM] kim: so logs would be great
[4:52 PM] Athena_57: I'll share my logs, sure
[4:52 PM] kim: bc a lot of people have't talked to him
[4:52 PM] kim: ty
[4:53 PM] Athena_57: I talked to him around 2/3 hours ago
[4:53 PM] Athena_57: But ehm
[4:53 PM] Athena_57: Don't have an opinion yet
[4:53 PM] Athena_57: because I've been so busy cycling/eating/replying to peeps
[4:53 PM] Athena_57: I haven't reread it
[4:53 PM] kim: sure
[4:53 PM] kim: feel free to send it over so ic an peruse o7
[4:55 PM] Athena_57: https://pastebin.com/Lg9MrP9R
Pastebin
Refa - Today at 19:02  sup  Athena_57 - Today at 19:03  Hi  Refa -...

[4:55 PM] Athena_57: I'm multi convoíng btw
[4:56 PM] kim: sure
[4:56 PM] kim: ty
[5:19 PM] Athena_57: whoops, forgot about this conversation, sorry
[5:20 PM] Athena_57: I'm not sure where your reads are atm
[5:20 PM] Athena_57: Who are you scumreading currently? Besides your vote that is
[5:20 PM] kim: i was scumreading refa
[5:21 PM] Athena_57: I've heard that a lot I feel
[5:21 PM] kim: he looks better in
[5:21 PM] kim: your chat
[5:21 PM] Athena_57: I don't remember anything standing out to me, no
[5:21 PM] kim: i'm eh on you and i know there been motions to try to get the lynch on you
[5:22 PM] Athena_57: My laptop dropped dead so switching to phone for a sec
[5:22 PM] Athena_57: Yeah, my inbox is full
[5:23 PM] Athena_57: Of people trying to get some lastmoment talk with me
[5:23 PM] kim: Sure
[5:24 PM] Athena_57: Not atm though!
[5:24 PM] Athena_57: Apart from you haha
[5:24 PM] Athena_57: Hey, laptop's back
[5:27 PM] Athena_57: Anything you want me to clarify on?
[5:39 PM] Athena_57: I'm going to reread my conv with Refa now and get back to you with my thoughts
[5:39 PM] Athena_57: anything in particular I should look for?
[5:39 PM] kim: ill send you kts's case
[5:39 PM] Athena_57: KTS has a case?
[5:39 PM] Athena_57: What is this sorcery
[5:39 PM] kim:
i think refa is a very likely wolf as all of his conclusions are lhf and his effort isnt indicative of his town game
now u might ask me, "elijah, refa slanked his last town game." that he did, but he slanked when it wasnt a big deal and it was.
refa is available when he needs to keep up appearances or someone asks him something, but he otherwise isnt engaged.
gonna throw out that refa read and see how people respond

but, i will say that refa maintains a steady pace of activity throughout the game until typically endgame as town. his conclusions are typically thought out regardless of his activity, and when he posts, he always seems engaged. it's not the case here, and thats why hes a wolf
[5:39 PM] kim:
it's obvious his effort is lax, his attention to the thread is null, and his reads are noncommital
these are objectively wolfy attributes, so push him for that
[5:40 PM] kim:
waffling on athena, talking it over w/sb
you're bothering me because people have been saying that you've been putting them in groups to solve each other but dont have any defined reads of your own
want to look into eclipse das it
 these are his reads
[5:40 PM] kim:
Camdar - Last Tuesday at 10:01 PM
gimme those
SPICY
reads
Refa - Last Tuesday at 10:01 PM
well you heard marth
Camdar - Last Tuesday at 10:01 PM
that's not spicy
that's p standard
Refa - Last Tuesday at 10:01 PM
im kinda neutral on sb cause it feels like my reasoning doesnt hold up
Camdar - Last Tuesday at 10:01 PM
elbert
Refa - Last Tuesday at 10:01 PM
and then
ya hold on JEEZ
<:GWnanamiChiakiPout:399930989595459584>
im fine w/snike now probably
i think evanman^3 is scum
Camdar - Last Tuesday at 10:02 PM
oh
?
why
Refa - Last Tuesday at 10:02 PM
[10:34 AM] Refa: why am i scum
[1:59 PM] DaRealEvan: I actually had no substance in my scumread on you until now
[1:59 PM] DaRealEvan: I got gut scum vibes from your opening post
[1:59 PM] DaRealEvan: So it was nothing substantial
[1:59 PM] DaRealEvan: But I think the way you reached out to me is scummy
[2:00 PM] DaRealEvan: It reads to me as defensive and as if you want to be townread rather than you want to solve me
[7:32 PM] Refa: my opening post was a blank vote, explain how you got scum vibes from it
this whole thins reads so fake to me idk
[5:40 PM] kim:
once sb and snike lost traction he had to flip his reads to go with the flow
and now hes talking to sb about other people???
when did he go from neutral to butt buddies
the progression doesnt make sense and the thought process is shallow
[5:40 PM] kim: all of his logs are from like tuesday tho lmfao
[5:40 PM] kim: which was why i wanted updated logs
[5:47 PM] Athena_57: Mh, the thing about lhf cases sort of aligns with my chat tbh
[5:48 PM] Athena_57: KTS is like the definition of it atm
[5:48 PM] Athena_57: I'm just taking dumb behaviour as NAI and think the slot will solve itself
[5:49 PM] Athena_57: If this works for him, good job, if he doesnt get anything from it I could see myself scumreading him
[5:49 PM] Athena_57: But having him as a high scumread today is pretty lazy imo
[5:50 PM] kim: im guessing you've claimed to brook?
[5:50 PM] Athena_57: I have, yes
[5:50 PM] Athena_57: She was also interested in my Refa logs
[5:50 PM] Athena_57: And I think she asked Refa stuff about me as well
[5:51 PM] Athena_57: I get the feeling she wanted to solve us both by having us talk to eachother haha
[5:51 PM] kim: LMAO that's a kts thing
[5:51 PM] kim: oh but she didnt put u up
[5:51 PM] kim: to talking to refa tho?
[5:52 PM] kim: or did she
[5:52 PM] Athena_57: no, she asked me whether I had spoken to refa
[5:52 PM] Athena_57: and like 5 econds before that
[5:52 PM] Athena_57: I had received a message from refa
[5:52 PM] Athena_57: then I told Refa to wait until I finsihed talking to brook
[5:52 PM] Athena_57: and then after that refa told me to wait coz he was talking to here
[5:55 PM] kim: i see
[5:55 PM] kim: :thinking:
[5:55 PM] Athena_57: KTS did put me in a groupchat with refa though
[5:55 PM] Athena_57: so he had a similar plan
[5:55 PM] kim: yes
[5:55 PM] kim: lmao
[5:55 PM] Athena_57: sadly for him, neither I nor Refa said a word in that chat
[5:55 PM] kim: ktsput me in one with walrein
[5:55 PM] kim: hahaha
[5:55 PM] kim: LMAO
[5:56 PM] Athena_57: My conv with kts was like
[5:56 PM] Athena_57: him asking my reads
[5:56 PM] Athena_57: I reply
[5:56 PM] Athena_57: I ask his reads
[5:56 PM] Athena_57: he says "I make connection yada yada abunch of crap"
[5:56 PM] Athena_57: I say that seems wishy washy as fuck
[5:56 PM] Athena_57: he puts me in a chat wih refa which we both ignore
[5:57 PM] Athena_57: so ehm
[5:57 PM] Athena_57: I'm nullreading KTS is this long story short
[5:57 PM] kim: ahh i see
[5:57 PM] kim: :thinking: