jobst atkinheim

[21:41]Jobst Atkinheim >> look everyone
[21:41]Jobst Atkinheim >> they like karl marx
[21:41]Jobst Atkinheim >> laugh at their poor political taste
[21:42]>> Jobst Atkinheim: :(
[21:42]>> Jobst Atkinheim: now i wont tell you a thing to be angry about
[21:42]Jobst Atkinheim >> jokes on you
[21:42]Jobst Atkinheim >> im already angry
[21:42]Jobst Atkinheim >> im always angry
[21:42]>> Jobst Atkinheim: im angry too
[21:42]Jobst Atkinheim >> if you are unironically a gommunist i will make fun of you though
[21:43]>> Jobst Atkinheim: he's my husband
[21:43]Jobst Atkinheim >> >marriage
[21:43]Jobst Atkinheim >> >in communism
[21:43]Jobst Atkinheim >> HUE
[21:43]>> Jobst Atkinheim: who are you quoting
[21:44]Jobst Atkinheim >> im just commencing the mockery
[21:44]>> Jobst Atkinheim: what is your political ideology
[21:45]Jobst Atkinheim >> theres a lot of answers i could give to you
[21:45]Jobst Atkinheim >> and all of them would be equally amusing
[21:45]>> Jobst Atkinheim: i mean, im not gonna ridicule you or anything
[21:45]Jobst Atkinheim >> well if you seriously wanted to know id need to explain everything about it before i told you what it was
[21:46]>> Jobst Atkinheim: that's fine
[21:46]>> Jobst Atkinheim: i don't mind you explaining
[21:47]Jobst Atkinheim >> well the general core belief of mine is, you might find this ironic, that the needs of the people are the highest priority
[21:47]Jobst Atkinheim >> this is primarily themed around long term order and stability at all costs
[21:48]>> Jobst Atkinheim: does this in any way lead to italian fascism
[21:48]Jobst Atkinheim >> youre a lot more well read than most to of picked up quickly that its basically fascism
[21:48]Jobst Atkinheim >> top marks my man
[21:48]>> Jobst Atkinheim: its because i've seen this before
[21:49]Jobst Atkinheim >> if you say caesar's legion
[21:49]Jobst Atkinheim >> ill be amused
[21:49]>> Jobst Atkinheim: nope, just other internet people
[21:49]Jobst Atkinheim >> oh boy
[21:49]Jobst Atkinheim >> am i speaking to /leftypol/?
[21:50]>> Jobst Atkinheim: i lurk
[21:50]Jobst Atkinheim >> i bet you crosspost too
[21:50]>> Jobst Atkinheim: nope
[21:50]>> Jobst Atkinheim: i'm not that involved
[21:51]>> Jobst Atkinheim: i used to be sympathetic to fascism myself a while back
[21:51]>> Jobst Atkinheim: decided i didn't agree with it
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[21:51]Jobst Atkinheim >> i say fascism primarily because im not well read enough to fully understand national socialism to feel like i could label myself as it aptly
[21:52]>> Jobst Atkinheim: do you believe that people should be organized along racial lines
[21:52]Jobst Atkinheim >> define racial, because there's a difference between skin color and genetics
[21:53]>> Jobst Atkinheim: let's assume i'm talking about the latter
[21:53]Jobst Atkinheim >> absolutely
[21:53]>> Jobst Atkinheim: why do you believe this to be a good idea? sticking with the tribe etc. or something else?
[21:53]Jobst Atkinheim >> every person is built in their nature towards tribalism and to stick with their own
[21:54]>> Jobst Atkinheim: okay so it's a tribalism thing
[21:54]Jobst Atkinheim >> not entirely, but it plays a large part
[21:54]>> Jobst Atkinheim: what else is there in that "not entirely"?
[21:54]Jobst Atkinheim >> understanding that people are naturally biased towards their own people and always will be, thus meaning a mixed culture will be inherently less stable than a monoethnic one
[21:55]Jobst Atkinheim >> i shouldnt say mixed culture, its not accurate, mixed group is more accurate
[21:55]Jobst Atkinheim >> not entirely goes to the other parts of cultural lines that distinguish people from eachother in their ideas and beliefs
[21:55]Jobst Atkinheim >> i shouldnt say mixed culture, its not accurate, mixed group is more accurate
[21:55]Jobst Atkinheim >> not entirely goes to the other parts of cultural lines that distinguish people from eachother in their ideas and beliefs
[21:56]>> Jobst Atkinheim: that's still its own kind of tribalism, no?
[21:56]>> Jobst Atkinheim: we have a few islamic states, for example
[21:57]>> Jobst Atkinheim: indonesia, malaysia
[21:57]Jobst Atkinheim >> before you use like
[21:57]Jobst Atkinheim >> chechnya or something-stan as an example
[21:57]Jobst Atkinheim >> have you personally visited them or been immersed in the culture
[21:57]>> Jobst Atkinheim: have you?
[21:57]Jobst Atkinheim >> i have, yes
[21:57]>> Jobst Atkinheim: which one?
[21:58]Jobst Atkinheim >> primarily saudi arabia and afganistan
[21:58]Jobst Atkinheim >> both are very easy
[21:58]Jobst Atkinheim >> the general core of this isnt to slap around knowledge of the other culture but its more specifically in regards to the fact that arabs are
[21:59]Jobst Atkinheim >> by and large, insanely tribalistic
[21:59]>> Jobst Atkinheim: neither of the countries i mentioned are arabs though
[22:00]Jobst Atkinheim >> would it honestly surprise you to say i dont care at all about middle eastern countries?
[22:00]>> Jobst Atkinheim: they're not even in the middle east
[22:01]Jobst Atkinheim >> the fact is, theyre countries that have adopted a decidedly middle eastern religion that combines social, theological, and governmental practices
[22:02]>> Jobst Atkinheim: no i'm not, i'm pointing out that islam is in itself pretty diverse and spans way more than just the middle east
[22:02]>> Jobst Atkinheim: i should mention also that i don't believe organizing a government around it is ever a good thing
[22:03]Jobst Atkinheim >> so your core point is that islam is diverse so that means that tribalism surely isnt in play
[22:03]>> Jobst Atkinheim: nope, i've never argued tribalism wasn't in play there at any point in this conversation
[22:03]Jobst Atkinheim >> then please tell me your core point
[22:04]>> Jobst Atkinheim: i'm not trying to push one, i'm just trying to figure out what you believe
[22:04]>> Jobst Atkinheim: if it seems like i'm arguing against your position, it's purely to clarify things
[22:05]Jobst Atkinheim >> alright, so you brought up a few islamic states that were "diverse" as a counter-argument to me saying that an ethnically diverse nation will be unstable
[22:05]>> Jobst Atkinheim: ...no? i brought them up as islamic states because they are islamic states and they're the first which came to mind
[22:05]Jobst Atkinheim >> then why did you bring up islamic states at all then
[22:06]>> Jobst Atkinheim: could you look at what i said right before that?
[22:06]Jobst Atkinheim >> please just say what your point with bringing up islamic states was
[22:07]>> Jobst Atkinheim: tribalism???
[22:07]Jobst Atkinheim >> okay and what does that have to do with islamic states
[22:07]>> Jobst Atkinheim: they're tribalistic???
[22:08]Jobst Atkinheim >> just ask another question
[22:08]Jobst Atkinheim >> its 5am and i have a headache and is hould take some ibuprofen
[22:08]>> Jobst Atkinheim: you know i'm not trying to pick a fight with you right
[22:08]Jobst Atkinheim >> ask a question
[22:08]Jobst Atkinheim >> that you want clarification on
[22:09]>> Jobst Atkinheim: alright, give me a tick first though as it's 10pm here and i've been drinking since 2
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[22:15]Jobst Atkinheim >> or we can talk about whatever, to be honest, im ambivalent about the topic
[22:15]Jobst Atkinheim >> i just fucking hate boredom
[22:16]>> Jobst Atkinheim: nah im kinda curious about the whole fascism thing
[22:16]>> Jobst Atkinheim: there's always a story there
[22:17]Jobst Atkinheim >> ill give a short summary then
[22:18]Jobst Atkinheim >> be aware of military industrial complex, copious corruption of government on multipe levels, and the themes of constant spying and observation that are becoming incredibly persistent, along with the attempts to control and manipulate social flow and public opinion
[22:18]Jobst Atkinheim >> not quite know whose responsible
[22:18]Jobst Atkinheim >> start looking into the backgrounds of the public figures pushing hard for liberal policies that include the disarming of the populace and the importation of destabilizing elements from foreign lands
[22:19]Jobst Atkinheim >> (((coincedences))) start arising in plenty with a lot of them having some very similar interests in foreign aid and being active in (((community)) groups
[22:19]Jobst Atkinheim >> decide to read into history and see theres a pretty strong precedent for this leading to the destruction of organized society
[22:20]Jobst Atkinheim >> its essentially after that point i stopped having a crisis of faith in being associated with fascism or natsoc and embraced it as i started to stop believing everything i was told at face value
[22:21]Jobst Atkinheim >> if you genuinely believe in communism then ill tell you this with sincerest purpose, you will be one of the first people that gets lined up and shot because you will be the first to see how quickly it will spiral into hell
[22:22]>> Jobst Atkinheim: what if im jewish
[22:22]Jobst Atkinheim >> then you should exactly what i think of you by now
[22:23]>> Jobst Atkinheim: oh no
[22:24]Jobst Atkinheim >> oh no what
[22:25]>> Jobst Atkinheim: what do you think of me
[22:25]Jobst Atkinheim >> well what are you
[22:25]Jobst Atkinheim >> thats the first question
[22:25]>> Jobst Atkinheim: in what terms? race?
[22:26]Jobst Atkinheim >> why not
[22:26]Jobst Atkinheim >> i want to know what you are
[22:26]Jobst Atkinheim >> how you define that is up to you
[22:26]>> Jobst Atkinheim: alright
[22:28]>> Jobst Atkinheim: i'm a vague kind of lefty who likes to read
[22:31]Jobst Atkinheim >> well
[22:31]Jobst Atkinheim >> have any other questions then
[22:31]Jobst Atkinheim >> or have i satisified your curiosity with muh origins story
[22:32]>> Jobst Atkinheim: a few, if you don't mind!
[22:32]Jobst Atkinheim >> go ahead
[22:32]Jobst Atkinheim >> im sure im already going to get blackbagged by the CIA one day so its all moot regardless, eh?
[22:32]>> Jobst Atkinheim: why do you believe the jews in particular are responsible for this sort of manipulation/influence
[22:32]Jobst Atkinheim >> now now
[22:32]Jobst Atkinheim >> youre naming (((them)))
[22:33]>> Jobst Atkinheim: i mean, that's who you're referring to, right? or do you mean a different group? TRS always used the brackets to mean jews
[22:33]>> Jobst Atkinheim: echoes etc.
[22:33]Jobst Atkinheim >> yeah well TRS is a shit
[22:34]Jobst Atkinheim >> anyone whose competent knows that
[22:34]>> Jobst Atkinheim: so i've heard from a fashy friend of mine, but that's where it comes from
[22:34]>> Jobst Atkinheim: do you mean something different with the brackets?
[22:35]Jobst Atkinheim >> no and im not going to ask if you (((are))) because "who would lie on the internet?" is always in effect
[22:35]>> Jobst Atkinheim: alright, so you do mean jews
[22:36]Jobst Atkinheim >> why are you so persistent on pushing that question
[22:36]>> Jobst Atkinheim: im just clarifying, you might mean something different
[22:37]Jobst Atkinheim >> i might and youll have to live with that until you know for sure on your own
[22:37]>> Jobst Atkinheim: okay? i'm trying not to misconstrue what you're telling me, there's no need to be confrontational about it
[22:38]>> Jobst Atkinheim: if you believe in a jewish conspiracy i'm not going to hold that against you
[22:38]Jobst Atkinheim >> its not intended to be confrontational
[22:40]>> Jobst Atkinheim: so, without being evasive, you do indeed believe the jews are behind major world problems
[22:41]Jobst Atkinheim >> why do you want an answer to this
[22:41]>> Jobst Atkinheim: because you're confusing me?
[22:42]Jobst Atkinheim >> ill put it like this
[22:42]Jobst Atkinheim >> im suspicious
[22:43]Jobst Atkinheim >> the last time i even indulged in political discussion i had someone desperately try to smear campaign me and fail
[22:43]Jobst Atkinheim >> its an absolutely fucking exhaustive thing
[22:43]>> Jobst Atkinheim: you mean like a callout type thing?
[22:43]Jobst Atkinheim >> not particularly as petty as that
[22:43]Jobst Atkinheim >> those are just funny
[22:46]Jobst Atkinheim >> do you have other questions to ask
[22:47]Jobst Atkinheim >> preferably nto related to politics as ive lost my steam for it
[22:47]>> Jobst Atkinheim: what was the nature of the smear campaign?
[22:47]>> Jobst Atkinheim: like, what did they do?
[22:47]Jobst Atkinheim >> well it was someone that id met and rped with for a bit and we had an ooc discussion
[22:47]Jobst Atkinheim >> the topic became slightly political and i said i wouldve voted for trump if i couldve
[22:47]Jobst Atkinheim >> as i became 18 after the campaign ended
[22:47]Jobst Atkinheim >> they became highly incensed and said i was a neo-nazi
[22:48]Jobst Atkinheim >> which i found ironically amusing
[22:48]>> Jobst Atkinheim: because you're a nazi?
[22:48]Jobst Atkinheim >> anyone who actually calls themself a nazi isnt actually natsoc
[22:48]Jobst Atkinheim >> theyre either just horribly stupid or blatantly malevolent
[22:49]>> Jobst Atkinheim: yeah but that's just another way to say natsoc isnt it
[22:49]Jobst Atkinheim >> considering its a term made in the 1930s by a journalist to disparage the national socialist party
[22:49]Jobst Atkinheim >> not really
[22:49]>> Jobst Atkinheim: alright so you have a problem with the term itself
[22:50]Jobst Atkinheim >> its like a socialist calling themself a thief because its just another way of saying socialist
[22:50]Jobst Atkinheim >> badumtish
[22:50]>> Jobst Atkinheim: do your views align with the nazis, or do you differ from them in some key areas?
[22:50]Jobst Atkinheim >> you know i asked if you had any questions that werent political
[22:50]Jobst Atkinheim >> this is pretty distinctively political
[22:50]>> Jobst Atkinheim: this is probably the most interesting part of you
[22:51]Jobst Atkinheim >> are you planning on dating me and having a romcom with me
[22:51]>> Jobst Atkinheim: what if i am?
[22:51]Jobst Atkinheim >> lewd
[22:52]>> Jobst Atkinheim: do your views align with the nazis?
[22:52]Jobst Atkinheim >> we cant have a discussion about, like, ceramics
[22:52]Jobst Atkinheim >> you gotta choose political
[22:54]>> Jobst Atkinheim: speaking of ceramics, what do you think about the art hitler stole?
[22:55]Jobst Atkinheim >> jesus christ
[22:55]Jobst Atkinheim >> do you have a fetish for natsoc
[22:55]>> Jobst Atkinheim: yes
[22:55]Jobst Atkinheim >> are you one of those israeli women that flick the bean to revenge porn
[22:55]Jobst Atkinheim >> unironically
[22:56]>> Jobst Atkinheim: yeah
[22:56]Jobst Atkinheim >> im sure a screencap of this will end up interesting places
[22:56]Jobst Atkinheim >> are you jewish
[22:57]>> Jobst Atkinheim: no
[22:57]Jobst Atkinheim >> weird
[22:57]Jobst Atkinheim >> tahts an actual thing by the way, no shit
[22:57]>> Jobst Atkinheim: what is
[22:57]Jobst Atkinheim >> the israeli women with this fetish for vengeful natsoc
[22:58]Jobst Atkinheim >> do you have an actual fetish for natsoc tho tbh
[22:59]>> Jobst Atkinheim: could i ask about your fetishes first?
[22:59]Jobst Atkinheim >> sure
[22:59]>> Jobst Atkinheim: alright, what're you into?
[22:59]Jobst Atkinheim >> monogamy and loving relationships
[22:59]Jobst Atkinheim >> chicks with dicks
[23:00]Jobst Atkinheim >> ill admit, ive got some degenerative qualities, i just have the good god damn sense to be private about it
[23:00]>> Jobst Atkinheim: we are in private though
[23:00]Jobst Atkinheim >> exactly why im saying
[23:00]Jobst Atkinheim >> any of this
[23:00]Jobst Atkinheim >> this being fetish related stuff
[23:01]>> Jobst Atkinheim: it feels like you're afraid of talking politics
[23:01]Jobst Atkinheim >> tbh
[23:01]Jobst Atkinheim >> its 6am and i have a headache
[23:02]Jobst Atkinheim >> i dont want to discuss something that requires very specific wording and careful understanding when im not at like
[23:02]Jobst Atkinheim >> top stuff
[23:02]Jobst Atkinheim >> i also have to be in the mood too, tbh, because then i turn into the fucking apostle of charisma
[23:02]Jobst Atkinheim >> otherwise its just kinda "eh"
[23:03]>> Jobst Atkinheim: see, i can't think of many political ideologies which require very specific wording to be understood at a basic level
[23:04]Jobst Atkinheim >> it requires a lot of knowledge on the subject and a clearly thought out explanation to do that while clearly getting across the keypoints
[23:04]Jobst Atkinheim >> which, at the moment, id ont have
[23:04]Jobst Atkinheim >> ask me later and then maybe
[23:05]>> Jobst Atkinheim: what do you think about black people?
[23:06]Jobst Atkinheim >> depends, are we talking the bantu
[23:06]Jobst Atkinheim >> some of the african tribes are alright people like the khoisans
[23:06]Jobst Atkinheim >> the others i wouldnt even call them human fucking beings
[23:06]>> Jobst Atkinheim: oh no
[23:07]Jobst Atkinheim >> the basketball americans are all, by and large, bantu
[23:07]Jobst Atkinheim >> now
[23:07]Jobst Atkinheim >> understand that there are exceptions, thats how any bell curve works
[23:07]Jobst Atkinheim >> but a bell curve is judged by majority, not minority
[23:10]Jobst Atkinheim >> any other questions fraulein
[23:10]Jobst Atkinheim >> you didnt answer your fetishes
[23:11]>> Jobst Atkinheim: not really, you should probably sleep
[23:11]Jobst Atkinheim >> nah
[23:11]Jobst Atkinheim >> we can talk about fetishes and be vaguely lewd and cutesy
[23:11]>> Jobst Atkinheim: id really prefer not to
[23:11]Jobst Atkinheim >> man
[23:12]Jobst Atkinheim >> thats the real tragedy
[23:12]>> Jobst Atkinheim: um
[23:14]Jobst Atkinheim >> do you have any other questions though that are not political
[23:14]Jobst Atkinheim >> because im not gonna sleep soon
[23:15]>> Jobst Atkinheim: no
[23:15]Jobst Atkinheim >> so nothing else you want to talk about
[23:15]>> Jobst Atkinheim: not really
[23:16]Jobst Atkinheim >> well okay then