Mik vs Corv, Embrace's Judgement

Mik Response 1
Quickdraw
	Shooter draws in 12ms – calc
	Shooter outdraws a bullet timer
	Shooter shoots at multiple targets simultaneously
	Siryn quickdraws with mouth movement
	Sonic scream strong – clears street, deafens people, incaps
	Unavoidable AoE
	Faster than bullets
	Siryn is a bullet timer
Strong Ranged Offense
	Shooter bullets strong
		Destroy a rifle
		Tear Luther's bullet proof muscles
	Corv has weak piercing resist
		Shisio has negative durability
		Lizard is at best bulletproof- insufficient
		Lizard has piercing limits
	Sonic screams strong
		Busts up cars
		Wall busting (close range)
		Castle corner busting (close range)
		Shatters metal (point blank)
	Sonic screams deafen
		Opposing combatant grip their ears
		Large AoE
		Lizard has sensitive hearing, and is more vulernable
	Sonic Screams hypnotize
		Mind control through audio
		Lizard not Shisio have applicable resistance
Shooter's fast
	Shoots bullet mid air – bullet timing
	Delilah, Strode, and Shooter are bullet timing from sniper feat
	Delilah scaling- out draws her and jumps onto her
	Strode scaling – tags him with bullets, and moves faster than him
	Strode scales to an objective bullet timer
	Objectivity Objectivity Objectivity
Siryn's shield
	Stops bullets mid flight
	Switch between offense and defense easily
Conclusion
	Shisio and Lizard are melee fighters- they suck vs my ranger
Corv Response 1
Lizard strong
	He fracture Concrete
	He lift bulldozers and such
	Grapplefuck
	Tail
Shisio strong
	Projectile dude to fracture stone
	Grip breaks swords
	Blocks concrete busting sword move with his sword
	Sword punctures concrete
	Fire projection
	Gunpowder in his gloves
Lizard durable
	Bullet proof
	Blunt concrete durability from stegron
	Blunt – takes being striked through steel lockdown barrier
	Heat – resists human torch blast that makes granite soup
	Explosions
	Hypodermic harpoons- only the sonics effected him
	Piercing doesn't affect Lizard fighting capacity
Shisio durable
	Takes a concrete busting strike from Kenshin
	Sanosuke boulder busting scaling
	Head protected by metal band that scales to a metal door busting piercing
Lizard fast
	Favorable spidey scaling, who bullet times
	Catches up to a motorcycle
Shisio fast
	Saito bullet like sword dodging- feat is 2ms with calc
Siryn offense sucks
	Can only choose one option at a time
	Barrier sucks
		Barrier blocks shooter's shots
		Can't simultaneously attack and defend
		Only relevant at close distance but by then she's screwed
	Sonic scream
		My characters are resistant
		Large AoE would hurt Shooter
	Hypnotism
		Doesn't work on the agitated
		Lizard and Shisio are agitated
Shooter slow
	Quickdraw feat bad
		It's dark, people who r drawing are surprised, shooters have to move a lot, also aim time
	Sniper feat bad
		Reacts to sound of rifle, so add lock time
		Long distance
	Prediction doesn't matter because he's much slower
Siryn slow
	The barrier to bullets feat isn't bullet timing
		Has to initiate sound before bullets fire
		Only blocked some of the bullets
	Cannot react to Shisio's sword the moves at FTE speeds
Range Schmange
	Bullets don't matter
		It misses
		Lizard is tanky
		Shooter gets screwed in melee
		Or run out of bullets
	Sonics blasts don't matter
		It misses
		It's weak
Mik Response 2
Shooter bullets good
	Lizard resists bullets, but not super bullets
	Lizard leaves his mouth open so hide doesn't matter
	Shooter is super accurate- bullet in the mouth
	Shishio's metal band doesn't matter- Shooter targets lots of areas
	Lizard in character doesn't dodge, will take bullets
Siryn sonics good
	Her initial burst prevents Lizard and Shisio from dodging future bullets
	If necessary, uses shield defense or attacks
	If necessary, uses sonic hypnosis
	Doesn't need to be simultaneous, the initial deafing renders Shisio and Lizard useless
	AoE doesn't affect Shooter- good control
	Lizard vulernable to sonics, so concussive durability not enough
	More Siryn sonics good
	Agitation weakness is fake
	Shisio being agitated is fake
Quickdraw and speed stuff
	Shooter quickdraws
		Aim time makes feat better, because shooters don't get to aim
	Regardless, they can't cross the distance while Siryn is screaming at them
	Shooter fast - Sniper feat, scaling shit
	Lizard is unfavorably scaled to Spidey in speed
	Plus Lizard never bullet times
	Shishio has a bullet timing feat sure
		Doesn't deal with multiple bullets
		Doesn't deal with ricochets
		Shooter Objectivity Objectivity Objectivity
		Shooter hits bullet timers using predictive motions (Strode and Delilah)
	Siryn speed good
		Barrier is farther from her than the agents- means she's faster than bullets
		She didn't act before bullets were shot- logic implies agents were inaccurate- they aren't
		Different number of bullets pertains to rictor- Corv's logic is incorrect
		Other bullet timing feats
Corv Response 2
Shooter bad
	No timeframe in Shooter quickdraw feat, vague AF because of various factors
	Delilah not bullet timing- doesn't react to gun shot out of her hand
	Sniper feat scaling for Delilah is meh
	Strode's movement is based off of prediction
	Unnamed bullet timer isn't someone Strode scales to – extenuating circumstances
	Shooter gets punch by Strode, strode may be slower cause stuff
	My characters can't die from headshots
	Lizard fast- spidey scaling
	Shisio fast -  bullet timing feat
	Black Cat anti-feats aren't bad- she cuts through metal
	Shooter shooting through Strode's muscles has favorable angles
	Piercing doesn't mean anything because Lizard fights though piercing damage
Siryn Bad
	Supersonic sound is fake
	Timeframe of shield wall is unclear
	Confident that she can't be shot is bluster
	Kinetic element of Siryn can't hurt my characters
	Lizard sonic anti-feat is strong
	Shisio has fought through pain greater than sonics
	Hypnosis won't matter if they're deafened- wasted offensive option
	Again, not simultaneous
	No time frame for switching between attack and defense- Spider Woman has no defined speed
	Super inertia , regardless they're fast
	Stats
Judgement

>!Mik wins!< I think the combination of Siryn's deafening scream and the Shooter's bullets is sufficient to incap Lizard and Shisio before they enter melee range, especially in the context of sonics weakness from Lizard, and Shisio not being piercing resistant from places besides his forehead.

Some comments for Corv
* I think a lot of you speed work on Shooter was good, I think you mainly fell short on the quickdraw feat due to Mik turning your points against you
* You need to have a clearer vision of how the round goes such that it ends in your favor, to counter Mik's arguments of range

Some comments for Mik
* The Shooter speed scaling is a lot cleaner. Don't have much to add