Jack - 05/10/2018
so i'm still a teenager
and i just realized this year that i'd been doing a lot of absolutely horrible disgusting shit
i've stopped now. had a minor relapse last month
but i'm just wondering
how many of you in here relate to that?
if your current friends now knew about all the shit you did as a teenager, would they remain your friend?
Tall Haru - 05/10/2018
my shit wasnt super bad but my friends knew about it and we are still friends to this day
sleep☑ - 05/10/2018
@Jack define absolutely horrible disgusting shit
Pat - 05/10/2018
I drank meal replacement shakes as a core part of my diet for six months and I came tantalizingly close to getting a pair of man titties
I'd call that gross because I didn't even like the shakes
faebae - 05/10/2018
when i was in high school i was super rapey and even thinking about it now disgusts me. makes me feel like i'm still a bad person even though i obviously have grown past that and am not like that anymore
i think that's more what jack was talking about
i think some of my friends would honestly block me if they knew this about me but also they're.... kinda the ppl that think that if someone sexually assaults someone then they deserve to be torn apart by dogs and starved to death and no matter how much they've grown and gotten better they can never be forgiven so. yeah.
Pat - 05/10/2018
It does not matter if you think ill thought, only if you act on the impulse
You're not a rapist
Your moral compass went through the motions
of could, should, and would
you could rape them
should you?
No
Doesn't sound that promiscuous unless you actually did do it
faebae - 05/10/2018
i was the kinda person that would pressure guys into sex when they didn't want to and force myself on them and grope them in public
yeah i was like 15 but honestly i was just... disgusting. truly.
i don't have thoughts like that anymore despite still being hypersexual
Pat - 05/10/2018
Then I wouldn't use the word rapey
faebae - 05/10/2018
huh? but i was? like. that's kinda. rape.
Pat - 05/10/2018
It's more licentious
faebae - 05/10/2018
um no it's rape
there's a difference between being promiscuous and forcing yourself on someone who repeatedly tells you they don't want to have sex
i'm promiscuous now. i was rapey back then.
Pat - 05/10/2018
I was talking about the groping
faebae - 05/10/2018
they didn't ask for me to grope them in public in front of people, they didn't condone it
it's sexual assault
Pat - 05/10/2018
It is
but it's not rape
faebae - 05/10/2018
it kinda is dude
don't try to make my actions out to be less then they were
Pat - 05/10/2018
It's molestation
I'm not, they were immoral and reproachable(edited)
faebae - 05/10/2018
i'm a nice person now with good morals but who i was doesn't deserve to be brushed under the table with semantics
Pat - 05/10/2018
It doesn't
You just used the word to describe what wasn't rape, coercing someone into sex is still awful, but it's not rape
If it were rape, you'd be in deep
faebae - 05/10/2018
dude that's
literally the definition of rape
making someone have sex when they don't give concent
consent*
Pat - 05/10/2018
You convinced them otherwise, as you said, didn't you?(edited)
faebae - 05/10/2018
dude it doesn't fucking matter if they said no 10 times before saying yes. it just means i should have stopped ten times ago but i didn't and kept forcing myself on them. this isn't some sexy "oh~ i don't really want it~ or do i~ ;)" shit, this is me begging and guilt tripping and pushing and prodding and doing what i could to get them to say yes
it's rape
i get the feeling you have this idea in your head of what rape should be - a big burly man cornering a poor woman in an alley, fucking her and beating her
9.9999 times out of 10 that isn't what rape is
Pat - 05/10/2018
No
That's not what my idea of rape is
faebae - 05/10/2018
"Rape is a type of sexual assault initiated by one or more persons against another person without that person's consent. The act may be carried out by physical force, or where the person is under threat or manipulation, or with a person who is incapable of valid consent."
a 2 second google search and manipulation is right there in the legal definition
groping someone in public without their consent is rape
not taking no for an answer to sex is rape
forcing yourself on someone when they tell you no is rape
i was a rapist
i don't know why you're arguing so hard
Pat - 05/10/2018
I was thrown off by your use of the word convince; until you told me you repeatedly pressured them did I have the full scope
faebae - 05/10/2018
i mean usually "convince them to have sex" isn't a good line to say to begin with
usually implies something disgusting
Pat - 05/10/2018
I wouldn't say it's implicit, but sex like that isn't my propagative anyway
It's just a perceptive thing
I'm not trying to challenge you on everything you say
You were very vague in the first message
Then you elaborated
faebae - 05/10/2018
i said "i was rapey" and u said "ur not a rapist just cause u thought about raping ppl" and then when i said i'd "pressure guys into sex when they didn't want to and force myself on them and grope them in public" you said that wasn't rape when i literally just described three ways you could rape someone
i'm just lost lmao nm
it wasn't vague at all
anyway
Pat - 05/10/2018
I only knew what you were telling me
You didn't outright say "I raped someone"(edited)
you said "rapey"
Ain't even a word
Sounds like you're making light of it
faebae - 05/10/2018
buddy
pal
i don't know how to tell you i literally did say i raped someone to which you replied no i didn't(edited)
please scroll up
Pat - 05/10/2018
I did, I just reread everything because I thought I missed something
rapey
faebae - 05/10/2018
"#27 mcdonalds hand tomatoes - Today at 12:08 PM
i was the kinda person that would pressure guys into sex when they didn't want to and force myself on them and grope them in public
yeah i was like 15 but honestly i was just... disgusting. truly.
i don't have thoughts like that anymore despite still being hypersexual
Pat - Today at 12:08 PM
Then I wouldn't use the word rapey
#27 mcdonalds hand tomatoes - Today at 12:08 PM
huh? but i was? like. that's kinda. rape.
Pat - Today at 12:09 PM
It's more licentious
#27 mcdonalds hand tomatoes - Today at 12:09 PM
um no it's rape
there's a difference between being promiscuous and forcing yourself on someone who repeatedly tells you they don't want to have sex
i'm promiscuous now. i was rapey back then.
Pat - Today at 12:10 PM
I was talking about the groping
#27 mcdonalds hand tomatoes - Today at 12:10 PM
they didn't ask for me to grope them in public in front of people, they didn't condone it
it's sexual assault
Pat - Today at 12:10 PM
It is
but it's not rape
#27 mcdonalds hand tomatoes - Today at 12:11 PM
it kinda is dude
don't try to make my actions out to be less then they were
Pat - Today at 12:11 PM
It's molestation
I'm not, they were immoral and irreproachable
#27 mcdonalds hand tomatoes - Today at 12:12 PM
i'm a nice person now with good morals but who i was doesn't deserve to be brushed under the table with semantics
Pat - Today at 12:12 PM
It doesn't
You just used the word to describe what wasn't rape, coercing someone into sex is still awful, but it's not rape
If it were rape, you'd be in deep"
i said i was "kinda rapey" cause i didn't think i'd be having a whole conversation were i had to explicitly tell everyone in the chat that yes, in high school i raped my peers
it wasn't something i was keen on focusing on
Pat - 05/10/2018
Fold that hand in the future
Molestation and rape are different charges, I said it was a semantic thing from the beginning, but you went off
faebae - 05/10/2018
dude it./ doesn't fucking matter jesus
i said i raped ppl and you said it wasn't rape and that's why no body takes ppl seriously when they try to say they were raped
because people like you who say "well technically..." like no! it was rape! end of!
can we PLEASE fucking drop it
Pat - 05/10/2018
I think it's just the opposite and I took it too seriously
sleep☑ - 05/10/2018
What
faebae - 05/10/2018
:shrug:
jab50yen - 05/10/2018
give pat some slack odin, he's a good guy. He was just trying to make light off of a vague description you gave. Until you went into detail it just sounded like hardcore flirting, which he said multiple times that he didn't grasp until you described it fully
don't lash out on my friend just because he was trying to make you feel better, that's not cool
Pat - 05/10/2018
Thanks, I just honestly thought she was exaggerating at first, since I don't know her personally.
faebae - 05/10/2018
i'm a man
jab50yen - 05/10/2018
yeah he/him just for future reference
Pat - 05/10/2018
sorry
Honest mistake
jab50yen - 05/10/2018
but yeah, it's to be expected, after all most people vent to have people help them feel better, not the other way around, pat meant no harm
faebae - 05/10/2018
can we drop it
jab50yen - 05/10/2018
you were the one that brought it up, were you expecting people to respond 'wow, you're sick, go fuck yourself'? This server is full of a lot of good people and when you gave off a vague description they just wanted to be supportive
that's what this channel is for
faebae - 05/10/2018
there's being supportive and there's just straight up denying that i didn't do what i did by trying to make it out like less than it was
and i wasn't asking for support anyway, i already know i'm a better person and what i did was fucked up
Pat - 05/10/2018
Wait, wait
faebae - 05/10/2018
good people don't look at literally accounts of rape and say "sounds fine idk why ur so worried about it"
so sorry if i'm wary of someone who says that
it was literally fuckin
jab50yen - 05/10/2018
Then. Why. Bring. It. Up.
No one in here knows you odin
faebae - 05/10/2018
because it was a part of a different fucking discussion jesus
jack was talking abt being fucked up teens and i said yeah i did fucked up things
i wasn't fucking asking to be patted on the back or anything
Pat - 05/10/2018
I was in that discussion
I didn't come out of nowhere
you responded to me in the first place
To which I responded to you
faebae - 05/10/2018
not everyone who admits they did something wrong is asking for a knight in shining armor to tell them they didn't
Pat - 05/10/2018
I told you time and time again, what you did was wrong, when I got the details
Don't say anything for a minute
let me give my case
faebae - 05/10/2018
i described literal rape in the second message i sent to you which you responded saying doesn't sound like rape
scroll. up.
the whole issue is that i described rape and you said it wasn't rape which is, guess what, being a rape apologist
i'm not even gonna fucking sugar coat it
just admit you fucked up and move the fuck on
Pat - 05/10/2018
Man, Yas Queen
You really turned this drag on me
faebae - 05/10/2018
wow cool misgender me it's lit
i'm done jab ur server sucks
Pat - 05/10/2018
I just called you a man
that's the masculine pronoun
jab50yen - 05/10/2018
I've wanted him gone for a while honestly