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She's very smart and they don't Really have like. High school there LOL

He'll be OK. Juniper decided to comfort him by..... Bringing home a snow leopard and Moss is like "    "

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Right theyre in like skyrim world
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Yeah


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Juni no...
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Once Upon A Tale


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Yee
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HOW DOES A PHONE WORK? SHHHHHHhhhhhhhhh


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Magic
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Yea

I have a sfw server for Moss' timeline but it's very quiet since I don't have him doing a lot and snaps takes up most of my attention
But he's started training cb recently which I'm very excited for

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Oh please... CB needs to feel powerful again
Resets very worried about him even though he doesn't. Show it. Or tell him
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BIG MOOD


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I'm probably not ready to join that server but I'll let u know haha
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My heart always breaks for CB


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Same
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NO I KNOW I WOULDN'T PUSH IT


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🙏
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I'm also not quite ready for that either hddbjsbj


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OH WHEW okay
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I just talk a lot cause I get excited.............


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That's okay... I wasn't sure so I wanted to see!
But we're just talking about our son's that's okay :>
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If reset and moss were to interact at any point, I'd rather it be on tumbly or a neutral server or private dm or something.


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Depending on the point probably one of the second options
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Ye

Again no rush. Moss has a lot of guilt and pain regarding the past that I'm confident I'd be able to play better than when I was a huge mess before.

unheardanduncaring
That's good!
There's some parts that were kind of... weird. I wasn't ever sure if I should retcon them away or take it or what so I've just kind of ignored some past stuff for reset
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That makes sense. I rewrote a few things to not cause awkwardness?


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Yeah. That's kind of why we did that Fang thing cause we were like "okay we can't really talk to Hebby about this anymore" and there were things we wanted to change for comfort and it was a super complicated situation
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I haven't played anyone else's character, I pretty much only renamed sleazy and sunny to dusk and dawn and said that moss and them stopped dating (on good terms!) a while ago. I figured that would be like.... Respectful if we never spoke again because I didn't want Anyone to feel guilted or obligated


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Yeah same hat
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I admit I'm still a bit sore about the Fang thing, even if I understand the necessity, it just hurts for reasons I can't really put into words


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Being replaced or feeling like your character is stolen? Those are my guesses
If it makes you feel any better we never wrote beyond that really... A blog was made but it's empty lol
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Yes, I guess that's some of the reasons. I avoided ever playing dusk or dawn or even designing them because I didn't want to cause that same pain


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That's good... I'm glad
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If I may be very honest, and I know none of you could have known so I'm not blaming you now,

Last year when I left bleakfalls, it was a cry for help, but I was very set in this Idea that nobody wanted me. It was a very bad mind set and I couldn't break free of it.

When I found out about Fang, it unfortunately solidified many of my beliefs, and I spiraled even further.

Again, I know you guys couldn't have known, and I was a huge asshole.


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I had planned to make like super rough comics of stuff on things I had wanted to explore but ultimately decided against it cause it felt like pushing the boundary too much
Oh yeah... I didn't guess it would be a cry for help, I thought you just genuinly wanted to leave.
Which is a bit bad on my part because one of my friends leaves servers when she's in a bad headspace and it's for that reason and some others
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Nah I'd been struggling with it since January of 2017, and it was a very thick, toxic cloud i couldn't fight. I'm glad to be out of it now, but back then I was barely functioning. I had Fiend leave, which was a start. I did have plans to bring him back! I had this whole thing planned out, but when depression comes a calling, it doesn't do rain checks

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I really appreciate you not making those comics. I know it's silly of me to get so emotional over that, but it just. Sucked I guess. I don't really know how else to put it


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I can't really remember what I thought you were doing when you had him leave and then left the server. I think I was mostly confused, but thought you were either retiring the character or trying to get away from us
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There was a lot of panic and depression. In a very stupid move, I had convinced myself that if I left, someone would run after me to tell me not to go.

Slick turned out to be the one person and I definitely hadn't expected it at all. But trust me I know that's wrong to do. I will never ever do that kinda thing again. It's self damning.

As for fiend, his muse was like. Dead. I couldn't shake him out of my own depression, or his, I couldn't keep up and I couldn't do anything plot wise. I thought if I had him run away in cowardice, I could have him face some demons in a cathartic manner that didn't involve hurting anyone.

BUUUT I KNOW I MESSED THAT UP,,,


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And it's not silly to have emotions because of mental illness or otherwise. Checking how you bring it out on people is the difference between toxicity and not, I think

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I just wanted to reassure you that I'm not upset Fang upset you
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I appreciate knowing that

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(if I stop responding its cause I'm sleep)


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Tucks u in
I just had breakfast
It's nice to understand what exactly happened with both you and Fiend back then
It was a confusing time
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Very much so. There were things that happened outside of me that unfortunately had a negative impact on me, but I'd rather not bring it all back up because it would just look like people bashing aaaand nope... That wouldn't do much good for any of us.


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Yeah no, I understand.
Today at 8:37 AM
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Bluuuugh sooo tired, i hate morning teaching LOL

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Shoulda went to bed earlier but I'm a fool


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I feel that
I'm gonna try to go to bed at 7 tonight because I need to study but my brain is too spacey tonight so I gotta do it in the early hours
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Woooah! I have tried to go to sleep at 7 before and instead it just made me wake up before midnight, wide awake


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That happens occasionally but then I just go back to sleep
The goal is to wake up at 3am fresh awake but it's difficult
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Oooohh


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Cause that's 8 hours
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I can noooot focus in the morning, or at least after I've slept. But I do plan on trying to get a good night's sleep tonight....... Cause bluhhh I feel awful.


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I do better in the mornings... Brain fog happens later in the day so I can't focus when I get home most the time
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A fusion between us means we'd either be very powerful or very useless LOL


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With my luck it would be the former and the fusion would be the worst procrastinator
*latter
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GOD YEAH,


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Big Mood
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What time is it over there for you? :0


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6:40
I have the food in me and I'm doing the nightly rituals but activity just started in my servers so I might be slightly bad and be up a bit longer than 20 minutes
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Big mood

Okay so Texas time is -3 hours + am/pm swap from my time
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It's 9:40 am here


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So ur at almost 10
Noyce
Useful conversion
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Yea!

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Before conversation went Depressing™ I wanted to mention about Moss that like.

For a while I kept making diff versions of Fiend to desperately recapture that spark of what made him him. But it just wasn't doable.

Moss held out the longest, likely on being the actual not bootleg Fiend despite some retcons.

He's very core Fiend, cares deeply about his friends and people, (even though he's kind of a hermit) still laughs at dumb memes, still gets dokis over papyrii

His like... Idol rn is Ladybeard

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Whomst is ladybeard
Also that explains some of the blogs I kept seeing around! I was a bit confused
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OHHHHHHHH

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https://youtu.be/YvZ0W4YHXeg


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I'm impressed
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THAT'S MOSS LOL


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Beautiful.....
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He does have depression and many things are not the same, but he's still Fiend. Even slick was skeptical but then was like "OH THERE'S MY BOY" after interacting with him


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Reminds me of when fiend was in a magical girl dress

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Oh good...
Most my muses have fluctuating depression or something bc I can't do neurotypical I guess??
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Big mood

I don't think any of my muses are neurotypical, even if they do their best to hide that fact
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@ magical girl dress: YEAH

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He loves his moss beard and hair but, he's self conscious at the same time, but everyone keeps telling him he's cute so he's like
CONFIDENCE +1


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Let him be confident in himself...
Reset obviously was doing the worst once, but mental health wise he's doing the best I think. But he's also kind of ignored some of his issues so maybe he'll break down later... Shrug

snapsback sent a photo post You craved me You s...

He's not actually sad in this pic he's just like "oh heh hi" but I like drawing him soft
HOLDS RESET...

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Soft boy in hard armor
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http://sir-moss.tumblr.com/post/168355148617/i-bought-a-really-cute-kimono-i-think-i-look I don't think this counts as nsfw but, just in case, here's moss trying to look cute!


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One of the biggest problems with the way I've written reset is that I don't think I like. Ever made it clear that he's been abused a lot

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I actually saw this one I think...
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I GOT THAT IDEA, ACTUALLY... I HAD A FEELING...


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He is cute
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Regarding reset


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A FEELING but not the extent of it
YE

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He was partnered with another G named Oblivion who was also shattered and Reset let him do awful things in the name of feeling. Because pain > numbness, or something. But even if he wasn't emotionally bothered then it left things for him to deal with now
It was also kind of dubcon
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HOLDS HIM TIGHT

Poor guy....
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I remember that stuff about Reset

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A lot of my characters are familiar with the pain > numbness thing

Even dumbass snaps

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Yeah I think I remember that a lot about fiend mostly in blogstart
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Ayep

And then he did stuff that he Still regrets
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I didn't retcon it from his character because even as horrible as it was, I feel like it was important to his growth as a character, and showing his rock bottom

Though it's not like i run around telling people about it LOL
I definitely don't wanna make people uncomfortable

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Hedj kinda does the same with sleazy... Not going to erase it but no longer spread it around
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Ohh, I had heard that it had been retconned completely! I'm kind of relieved that's not the case.


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I don't think so? Hedj is worried that since Fin is good now that people will get weird about his past and think she's supporting it, so she doesn't make reference to what actually happened, just that Fin Did Some Bad Things.
Because someone did get upset about it though. It's not an unfounded worry

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The bit about Reset's history was part of the thing where I should have talked to you about Fiend. The time I told you about Fiend saying Master was a better move but before that, after our rp in the solitary confinement Fiend returned to Reset (and sleazy) and sucked Reset's dick as an apology I think? But bc of how Reset was treated in the past I think it would negatively affect him but also didn't want to make a deal out of inconsequential rp stuff. This is the situation I mentioned before that I didn't know if I should erase or ignore it or what...
Cause I don't want to make Fiend into a bad guy during the times when he wasn't trying to be? I'm rambling but
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Oh jeez I'm sorry

Most of that is a blur, I'm sorry if I don't remember it super well
We can absolutely retcon out the dick suck if you'd prefer!!! I have no hard feelings about it. Otherwise, they could talk it over if ever.
(I gobba go teach now but we could discuss later?)

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Yeah we can talk in a bit! I have more things to say (not bad stuff just more ziz rambling with character shit lol)
I should get myself to bed also
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Feel free to fill this messenger out with your thoughts. I prefer reading up than forcing people to do it live


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Aight!
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Sleep well when you do!


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Thank ya

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Okay so I'm gonna try and make this coherent but...

First thing is, like 10 months ago before the fallout I had been wanting to have Fiend and Reset do things more regularly. This was like days before shit though so I didn't even have enough in my brain to come to you with it...

But it stemmed from, I think Reset would put Oblivion and Fiend together in his head. Not because they necessarily have the same personality, but there are a few traits that do. Namely that they are both the one in control of a room. More dominant kinds of personalities. It would be more solidified when Fiend tortured him. I thought it would be an interesting issue for muses to tackle maybe? Someone who has been abused and someone who used to do it. I think at the time though you gave the vibes it would be a plot you couldn't mentally handle, so that's another reason I didn't say anything!

 Even right now, Reset doesn't really have sexual boundaries. You have to remember he was the same person as Wings, which means he got laid exactly 0 times while he was a living monster. Oblivion was the first and it wasn't a good time, and pretty much just got worse. So his perception is super skewed. That is an ic excuse for some things I guess? But I was actually excited when Fiend told Reset to "beg for your Master," because it would have sincerely triggered bad things in him that he couldn't brush off like he has been. Fiend would have had to deal with Reset freaking out, which would be bad, but Reset wouldn't be freaking out at HIM but other things in his head. So I thought it would go more like he freaks out>Fiend stops and tries to calm him down, and that's the only time someone has stopped for Reset and it comforts him a lot. It would ruin the good time but it would be a good opportunity for comfort. I could have explained that at the time though.
I lost track of my point but when we talk again I think it'll come to me
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OHHH

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That is a really good thing I think. We could absolutely add that in since it sounds like something that needed to happen before the fallout.

WE could try to do after, but it's been 12 years almost for Moss now, and I don't know if it would be emotionally satisfying?

( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zSw1OgD8Rc this isn't related but I've been quoting it nonstop )
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I'm sorry I wasn't easy to talk to back then. It's a regret of mine, but I've been working on being easier to approach.


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("you edgy bitch" I remember this video....)

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Yeah... Now it would just contribute to Reset being more angry if the things aren't retconned in some way. He's gotten a little further on his own, now. He got rid of Oblivion's body and has since stopped saying he loved him
I'm glad we can talk now though
Today at 1:44 PM
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Yeah me too!
If you're okay with the retcon, so am I.
And Reset can absolutely still be mad at Moss, I understand.

If not for that, but leaving, that's fine
Today at 8:26 PM

unheardanduncaring
We could either retcon
Woops
Retcon some of the stuff out or retcon some stuff in?
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I have no issue with retconing stuff in, though for Moss he may remember a few things differently?

As in, I wrote it that when things started improving for Sleazy and Fiend, they realized they were not good for each other in a way and kinda broke up but they remained like. Really good friends.
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A similar thing happened with Fiend and Sunny (or in this case it would be Dusk and Dawn shdfjkshdfsdf)

I can't remember my own shit sometimes

unheardanduncaring
Yeah that's okay, it's mostly so I know how to play Reset
I like retconning stuff in because I like Reset brokenhearted 🙏
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LOL

That is fair
Ur free to have him see a Moss selfie and go wall-eyed/catatonic or whatever you'd like to do!
Moss: Resetti
Gets a hole blown through his head part 2

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Nfkdidhdns
He kind of knows Moss is around bc Sleazy talked to him? But he just stays in his lane because he doesn't want to get a bad guy anymore
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I'm not sure how to go about the Sleazy talking to Moss thing because that was at June 2017 and it was suuuuch a mess that I'm just. Wondering. If...we should forget about it??? I think when I retconned Moss' stuff, absolutely just took that part out because. It like kinda totally fucked up my stuff.

I know that was my fault too, but a lot of guns were jumped and I'm like. UNCERTAIN how to look back at that.

It's fine if Fin still remembers it, but for the sake of keeping stuff organized for me, I'm gonna....say it didn't happen for Moss