April 4th Logs

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12:13 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/xXL0L1L0V3RXx, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63bx3e/ft_jpn_redeems_regular_rng_lf_codes_shinies_event/dfsww1g )
12:14 AM <@Kirzi> a
12:30 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on submission by /u/Moag14, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63brqo/lf_specific_events_ft_stuff/ )
12:31 AM <@Kirzi> .tell Raia Weird code thing happened. Want to check my math? https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/634yvk/daily_discussion_question_thread_for_03_april_2017/dfsvx69/?context=3
12:31 AM <+Porygon-Bot> Saved message for Raia. Beep boop.
12:32 AM <@Kirzi> a
12:40 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/Killer_Whale_Penguin, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/61mb6y/lf_offers_need_to_complete_pokedex_ft_some/dfsxxmr )
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1:04 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Inactive hatching thread" (on submission by /u/VermilionV, https://www.reddit.com/r/SVExchange/comments/5hw6hh/3760/ )
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1:24 AM <@Kirzi> Closed
1:26 AM <@Kirzi> Also, I propose a minor tweak to rule 2 to improve the likelihood of this part actually being read (change in \\s): http://i.imgur.com/R7EqdTl.png
1:52 AM <@Kirzi> Paging amab
1:52 AM <@norman250> I am not opposed to that proposal.
1:52 AM <@amab> yes?
1:52 AM <@amab> let me read
1:53 AM <@norman250> Bracketing it out does make it more visible to the average reader
1:53 AM <@Kirzi> Nah I don't mean the above
1:53 AM <@Kirzi> (but feel free to give info on that too)
1:53 AM <@Kirzi> I just remembered
1:53 AM <@amab> looks good
1:53 AM <@Kirzi> Can you TLDR me on XD/Colo shiny locks?
1:53 AM <@Kirzi> I forget
1:53 AM <@Kirzi> Going to add it to the legality thingy
1:53 AM <@amab> it just advances 2 frames
1:53 AM <@amab> for PID
1:53 AM <@Kirzi> No I mean
1:53 AM <@amab> but ivs stay the same
1:53 AM <@Kirzi> What's shiny locked
1:53 AM <@amab> every shiny pokemon
1:53 AM <@amab> ... shadow
1:54 AM <@amab> what is NOT shiny locked
1:54 AM <@amab> eevee
1:54 AM <@amab> Duking trades
1:54 AM <@amab> mt. battle gifts
1:54 AM <@amab> (not ho-oh)
1:54 AM <@Kirzi> So Ho-oh is shiny locked
1:54 AM <@amab> yes iirc
1:54 AM <@amab> it just advances one more
1:54 AM <@amab> it has a set TID SID
1:54 AM <@amab> advances 2 more
1:55 AM <@amab> the game always advances 2
1:55 AM <@amab> at a tme
1:55 AM <@amab> elekid may.... not be shiny locked
1:55 AM <@amab> i would have to check
1:55 AM <@amab> its a trade pokemon
1:56 AM <@amab> duking's plusle IS shiny locked though
1:56 AM <@amab> so just put the mt. battle gifts, duking trades, pokespot
1:56 AM <@amab> xd eevee
1:57 AM <@amab> colo starters can not be shiny though
1:57 AM <@Kirzi> What's pokespot?
1:57 AM <@Kirzi> And what are Mt Battle gifts
1:57 AM <@amab> the "wild" pokemon
1:57 AM <@Kirzi> I haven't played those games in forever
1:57 AM <@amab> where you leave food out
1:57 AM <@Kirzi> Duking I assume is everything with the DUKING OT
1:57 AM <@amab> yes
1:57 AM <@amab> its a like a shuckle
1:57 AM <@amab> a meditite
1:57 AM <@amab> and something else
1:57 AM <@amab> mt. battle gifts are the gen 2 starters
1:58 AM <@Kirzi> Is there another Eevee in the games or is there only the one Eevee?
1:59 AM <@amab> one eevee starter in XD
2:00 AM <@Kirzi> So the only Eevee can be shiny
2:00 AM <@Kirzi> Everything with DUKING can be shiny
2:00 AM <@amab> not his plusle
2:00 AM <@Kirzi> DUKING OT*
2:00 AM <@amab> his trades
2:00 AM <@Kirzi> Except Plusle
2:00 AM <@Kirzi> Is there a list somewhere?
2:00 AM <@Kirzi> Of the wild Pokemon
2:01 AM <@amab> Plusle is in colo btw
2:01 AM <@amab> the trades are in XD
2:01 AM <@amab> shuckle, meditite, larvitar
2:01 AM <@Kirzi> Ah
2:01 AM <@amab> Sand pokespot; Gilgar, trapinch, phanphy?
2:02 AM <@amab> http://www.serebii.net/xd/pokespot.shtml
2:03 AM <@Kirzi> Those sprites look funny
2:03 AM <@amab> look up the shinies sometime
2:03 AM <@amab> also all the "sprites" in the party
2:03 AM <@amab> have a shiny and a normal
2:04 AM <@amab> that are diffenelty animated
2:04 AM <@amab> its wierd.
2:07 AM <@amab> also the trade pokemon are their own method
2:08 AM <@amab> ill say that in the rng thing
2:08 AM <@amab> they are pid reversed
2:08 AM <@amab> iirc
2:08 AM <@amab> or their ivs are reversed
2:09 AM <@Kirzi> For starters, I'm guessing it's accurate to say that most XD/Colo can't be shiny?
2:09 AM <@amab> yes
2:09 AM <@amab> literally only the trades, gifts, and evee
2:09 AM <@amab> and spot
2:09 AM <@amab> the other 83 shadow pokemon can not be shiny
2:11 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on submission by /u/tomlang245, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63cf0h/ive_got_a_shiny_phantump_and_i_was_wondering_if/ )
2:12 AM <@norman250> r
2:13 AM <@amab> r
2:13 AM <@amab> delet
2:13 AM <@Kirzi> Gifts = only Chikorita, Cyndaquil, and Totodile?
2:13 AM <@norman250> oh, you can take it, amab, if you want
2:13 AM <@amab> nah you got it
2:13 AM <@amab> and potentially elekid
2:13 AM <@norman250> I know, I was just calling your bluff
2:13 AM <@amab> no i delet
2:13 AM <@amab> togepi is a gift
2:13 AM <@amab> but its a shadow
2:13 AM <@amab> so it cant be shiny
2:14 AM <@Kirzi> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/lgxXwf1q/
2:14 AM <@Kirzi> Is that accurate?
2:15 AM <@amab> yes
2:15 AM <@Kirzi> Sweet
2:16 AM <@amab> put maybe hordels elekid
2:16 AM <@amab> ... no one usually does it
2:16 AM <@amab> because it doesnt get good moves
2:16 AM <@amab> and you give up togepi for it.
2:16 AM <@Kirzi> Is that the same Elekid as the gift one?
2:17 AM <@amab> as the gift one?
2:17 AM <@Kirzi> So like
2:17 AM <@amab> its a trade
2:17 AM <@Kirzi> * Mt. Battle gifts: Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Totodile, Elekid (maybe)
2:17 AM <@amab> guy gives you a shadow togepi
2:17 AM <@Kirzi> Is that better
2:17 AM <@amab> no its a trade
2:17 AM <@amab> well sure
2:17 AM <@amab> put it in gift
2:17 AM <@Kirzi> What should I put
2:18 AM <@amab> * Hordel Elekid (potentially, needs to be checked)
2:19 AM <@amab> It should... be shiny its a ingame trade
2:19 AM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/pkmntrades4mods/wiki/legality#wiki_colosseum.2Fxd_shiny_locks
2:19 AM <@Kirzi> Feel free to edit
2:19 AM <@amab> lmao
2:20 AM <@amab> ... thats xd only
2:20 AM <@amab> the shadow pokemon in colo can be shiny
2:20 AM <@Kirzi> Dammit amab
2:20 AM <@Kirzi> You're confusing me
2:21 AM <@amab> saved
2:21 AM <@amab> read now
2:23 AM <@amab> its like
2:23 AM <@amab> what can be shinyin XD
2:23 AM <@amab> what cant be in colo
2:23 AM <@amab> 10 in xd
2:23 AM <@amab> like 58 things can be shiny in colo
2:25 AM <@amab> does that make it more clear
2:26 AM <@amab> Kirzi:
2:27 AM <@amab> dont get me started on party shuffling pokemon
2:28 AM <@Kirzi> Ja
2:28 AM <@Kirzi> Recheck
2:28 AM <@Kirzi> I made minor edits
2:29 AM <@amab> yes.
2:29 AM <@Kirzi> Woo
2:29 AM <@amab> togetic and shuckle are party shuffling pokemon
2:29 AM <@amab> meaning some spreads are locked out
2:29 AM <@amab> but...
2:29 AM <@amab> the only way to check is to savestate and hack in to cjeck
2:29 AM <@amab> utnil someone looks into it
2:31 AM <@Kirzi> Go do research
2:31 AM <@Kirzi> For science
2:31 AM <@amab> lazu
2:31 AM <@Kirzi> But don't you want to make a big pokebreakthrough?
2:31 AM <@amab> the big breakthrough is
2:31 AM <@amab> "dont waste your time on these spreads"
2:32 AM <@amab> the next big break woudl be pokemonbox
2:33 AM <@amab> apparently people have info on ageto
2:33 AM <@amab> then the next big break is gen 6 ntr
2:34 AM <@Kirzi> I'm guessing Ageto is still going to be not really doable on retail
2:34 AM <@amab> which i messaged someone for help on pokemon box
2:34 AM <@amab> no reply
2:34 AM <@amab> uh
2:34 AM <@amab> apparently it is
2:35 AM <@amab> japanese peopel are doing it
2:35 AM <@amab> and not talking to "us"
2:35 AM <@amab> us being i think admiral fish or togami
2:35 AM <@amab> reach dout
2:35 AM <@Kirzi> "Damn Americans with their hacking NTR tools"
2:35 AM <@amab> probably
2:36 AM <@amab> except its game cube.
2:37 AM <@amab> ageto is annoying.
2:37 AM <@Kirzi> You're a game cube
2:42 AM <@amab> NO
2:42 AM — @amab looks down
2:42 AM — @amab is a gamecube
2:42 AM — @amab wonders how he looked down he has no eyes
2:51 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/NiftyBlueLock, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63c161/but_i_would_throw_500_balls_and_i_would_throw_500/dft1j7e )
2:53 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/WooperIsGod, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63c161/but_i_would_throw_500_balls_and_i_would_throw_500/dft1mfx )
3:11 AM <@Kirzi> Volcano: As stupid as that kid is, let's not tell people to kill themselves
3:19 AM <@Kirzi> Got reports
3:21 AM <&Raia> .
3:21 AM <+Porygon-Bot> Raia: Weird code thing happened. Want to check my math? https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/634yvk/daily_discussion_question_thread_for_03_april_2017/dfsvx69/?context=3 (from Kirzi, 2017-04-03 20:31:32 UTC-0800)
3:22 AM <@Kirzi> No idea what happened there, unless code errors are all fucked again and aren't just reworded messages
3:31 AM <&Raia> yeah I dunno, it looks like you had the right message
3:31 AM <&Raia> maybe the user screwed up somehow
3:32 AM <@Kirzi> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MmdxMKyFRVHpu_Tx7a8Wq-NFZRqMyUmqw9KK9dZeGbc/edit#gid=0
3:32 AM <@Kirzi> That's where I'm at so far
3:32 AM <@Kirzi> It's editable
3:32 AM <@Kirzi> Also, ban incoming
3:32 AM <@Kirzi> 99% sure
3:33 AM <&Raia> for soulwyvern?
3:33 AM <@Kirzi> No
3:33 AM <@Kirzi> Wooperisgod
3:33 AM <&Raia> oh
3:33 AM <&Raia> I like that there is actually an error message for codes being used in another game
3:33 AM <&Raia> that's useful
3:33 AM <&Raia> too bad we still have "the gift was not there"
3:34 AM <@Kirzi> Yea, I'm just assuming that corresponds to that
3:34 AM <@Kirzi> Since it's the same thing
3:34 AM <&Raia> yeah that'd make sense
3:34 AM <&Raia> but who knows, GF often doesn't make sense
3:35 AM <@Kirzi> To be fair, if we get that error, we can safely assume it means "code no work"
3:35 AM <@Kirzi> Gen 6 or 7
3:36 AM <&Raia> basically
3:36 AM <&Raia> I wonder why there are two variations of "Your game cannot receive the gift provided by this code or password."
3:37 AM <@Kirzi> Check the Spanish column
3:38 AM <@Kirzi> One seems to be "game", one seems to be "software"
3:38 AM <@Kirzi> So maybe they split off region and Sun vs Moon
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3:42 AM <&Raia> interesting
3:42 AM <&Raia> in japanese one is title and the other is software
3:43 AM <&Raia> that's annoying that they didn't differentiate it in every language
3:44 AM <@Kirzi> Welcome to GF logic
3:45 AM <&Raia> okay wait
3:45 AM <&Raia> it's differentiated
3:45 AM <&Raia> but by the spacing.
3:45 AM <&Raia> Your game cannot receive the gift provided by\nthis code or password.\c
3:45 AM <&Raia> Your game cannot receive the gift provided\nby this code or password.\c
3:45 AM <&Raia> just look for the newline either before or after the "by" to know which one it is
3:45 AM <&Raia> that's terrible but it's better than nothing
3:46 AM <@Kirzi> Ha
3:46 AM <@Kirzi> Fucking GF
3:50 AM <@Kirzi> By the way, the numbers on the left are priority
3:50 AM <@Kirzi> I figured we could try killing two birds with one stone
3:50 AM <@amab> NO BIRDS
3:50 AM <@amab> KILLING
3:50 AM <@amab> I HAVE NEVER BEEN SO OFFENDED
3:51 AM <&Raia> ah, cool
3:52 AM <&Raia> we can use some of iama's bottle cap codes for science
3:53 AM <&Raia> and see if we can confirm the regional messages using some pika/koko codes
3:54 AM <@Kirzi> I still have the unused one from earlier if you need it
3:54 AM <@Kirzi> Bottle cap I mean (but I also have Pika/Koko)
3:56 AM <&Raia> I can try it on my jpn 3ds and see if I get the expected spacing
3:58 AM <@Kirzi> Bottle cap, you mean?
3:58 AM <&Raia> yeah, sorry
3:59 AM <@Kirzi> Sent
3:59 AM <&Raia> thanks!
4:01 AM <&Raia> it's just telling me the code is incorrect
4:02 AM <&Raia> nvm I got it
4:02 AM <&Raia> it wasn't scratched very well so the 7 looked like a Z
4:03 AM <@Kirzi> Yep
4:03 AM <@Kirzi> That got me too haha
4:03 AM <@Kirzi> Forgot to mention it
4:04 AM <&Raia> I got the second row spacing
4:05 AM <&Raia> .shrug
4:05 AM <+Porygon-Bot> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
4:05 AM <&Raia> so it seems like the first row one might be version and the second row is region
4:05 AM <&Raia> first row in jpn = title
4:08 AM <&Raia> bedtime, see you later
4:14 AM <@Kirzi> Night
4:19 AM <@Kirzi> Go to bed norman
4:19 AM <@norman250> I
4:19 AM <@norman250> am tying to :(
4:20 AM <@norman250> As weird as this sounds, I had a cup of black tea after dinner and that's enough to keep me in a terrible, fatigued state for a few hours, desperately craving sleep.
4:21 AM <@Kirzi> Then don't do that, silly
4:21 AM <@norman250> I know, I know. But es so bueno...
4:27 AM <@Kirzi> Fuck it
4:27 AM <@Kirzi> I'm banning
4:27 AM <@Kirzi> .ban
4:27 AM <+Porygon-Bot> http://hq.porygon.co/mod/banuser
4:40 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on submission by /u/ikillthyself, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63cw4r/lf_shiny_6_iv_max_deino/ )
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4:56 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/Thatlightskindavid, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/62k7ef/youre_young_and_youre_hungry_perhaps_short_on/dfsi648 )
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5:49 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "." (on comment by /u/TillWaylor, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63cdzq/daily_discussion_question_thread_for_04_april_2017/dft52jy )
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6:55 AM <@DoubleFried> ralreadyhandledbyVolcanoalreadyhandledbyVolcano
7:07 AM <@Volcano> clever way to not mention me
7:07 AM <@Volcano> ty
7:14 AM <~TSAR> last modmail
7:14 AM <~TSAR> I'm losing faith in humanity
7:15 AM <@Volcano> I dont
7:15 AM <@Volcano> even
7:15 AM <@DoubleFried> LOL
7:15 AM <@Volcano> im gonna be simple and to the point
7:17 AM <~TSAR> I replied already
7:17 AM <~TSAR> oh well
7:17 AM <@DoubleFried> volcano replied already as well
7:17 AM <@DoubleFried> and they replied back
7:19 AM <@Volcano> Im of the assumption now that everything they've done in the past is possibly hacked now
7:20 AM <@Volcano> he's been cloning peoples stuff on SVExchange
7:21 AM <~TSAR> yeah, that's more than likely
7:24 AM <@DoubleFried> .modmail _Yuki_-_
7:24 AM <+Porygon-Bot> http://hq.porygon.co/search/modmail/_Yuki_-_
7:24 AM <@DoubleFried> he's been temp banned in the past as well
8:23 AM <@Volcano> some of those modmails are super sketchy too
8:23 AM <@Volcano> im honestly not opposed to just removing them
8:23 AM <@Volcano> from the community
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8:46 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/2210-2211, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63c161/but_i_would_throw_500_balls_and_i_would_throw_500/dft7div )
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9:13 AM <@DoubleFried> r
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11:01 AM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Do not trade Pokémon of uncertain legitimacy." (on submission by /u/i4nima, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63elrc/lf_ha_skill_swap_exeggcute_good_nature_ft_any_of/ )
11:02 AM <@DoubleFried> r
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12:37 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63f8im/ft_shiny_cutiefly/ by /u/TheAngryBisexual breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63e146/lf_kanto_meowth/ )
1:07 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63ffsm/need_help_evolving_my_haunter_phantump_and/ by /u/Ravinel breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63enma/can_someone_with_the_sun_game_help_me_evolve_my/ )
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2:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "<no reason>" (on comment by /u/bsuarez_18, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63cdzq/daily_discussion_question_thread_for_04_april_2017/dftq1wc )
2:16 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Annoyingly stupid. Removed.
2:28 PM <@iama> what is that guy's post history haha
2:28 PM <@iama> "G"
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2:51 PM <@sheldrob> r
2:51 PM <@sheldrob> Will comment in a few minutes
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3:17 PM <@sheldrob> kirzi you tagged the same guy above
3:39 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on submission by /u/Alvadelliq, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63gfne/lf_adamant_scizor_latios_ft_shiny_beldum_other/ )
3:40 PM <@sheldrob> r
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3:53 PM <@sheldrob> thanks Porygon-Bot :)
3:59 PM — @iama pets Porygon-Bot and feeds it RAM
3:59 PM <+Porygon-Bot> n_n
3:59 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (*･∀･) omnomnom RAM
3:59 PM <@sheldrob> magic!
3:59 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (づ｡◕‿‿◕｡)づ・。*。✧・゜゜・。✧。*・゜゜・✧。・­­­­­゜゜・。*。・゜*✧
4:04 PM <@iama> :o
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4:29 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/viewsft6, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63fvoo/ft_porybox_rngd_jirachis_june2015_dragonites_lf/dftx3tz )
4:32 PM <@SnowPhoenix> What a nice history there.
4:35 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/sparebrains, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63g2qi/lf_hoopa_or_deoxys/dftytyh )
4:37 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Let's see if he responds to Kirzi now or not.
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4:56 PM <@SnowPhoenix> sheldrob: Are you around to reply to that guy or shall I?
4:56 PM <@SnowPhoenix> (GTS 'mons are screenshotted and stuck into a Imgur link in usernotes.)
4:59 PM <@Kirzi> I can jump back in too if you want
5:03 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Kirzi: Whatever works. Nothing to investigate here unless you want to question the one shiny with his OT. Otherwise it's basically just yelling at him to actually read the rules this time.
5:03 PM <@Kirzi> Well, the other post mentions shiny legendaries
5:04 PM <@Kirzi> So he still hasn't actually answered either of us about that
5:04 PM <@Kirzi> I'll reply I guess
5:04 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Alright, feel free.
5:05 PM <@Kirzi> Done
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5:06 PM <@Kirzi> 01:26:07 <@Kirzi> Also, I propose a minor tweak to rule 2 to improve the likelihood of this part actually being read (change in \\s): http://i.imgur.com/R7EqdTl.png
5:07 PM <@Kirzi> Bump
5:07 PM <@sheldrob> sorry I was preparing for dinner.
5:07 PM <@Kirzi> Ah it's cool
5:07 PM <@sheldrob> Feel free to take it if you want sp or kirzi
5:07 PM <@Kirzi> I replied
5:08 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63h1gj/ft_heavy_ball_ha_rufflet_breedjects_lf_bankball/ by /u/Zaskarel breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63fs4i/lf_something_45_iv_to_swap_my_shiny_into_ft_5_iv/ )
5:16 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/TLPenn, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63gzjt/for_trade_timid_mewtwo_caught_in_pokemon_yellow/dfu0ty0 )
5:16 PM <@Kirzi> r
5:16 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Kirzi: "it also includes Pokémon obtained from" => "Pokémon from the following sources should not be traded here either"
5:17 PM <@SnowPhoenix> Mostly because if we're using the theory of people taking quick glances rather than reading thoroughly, it's not obvious what the second list applies to.
5:17 PM <@Kirzi> Sure, sounds better
5:17 PM <~TSAR> looks good with SP's suggestion
5:35 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63h7hl/lfkarrablas_fta_mon_with_pokerus/ by /u/CockemFockemRobots breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63grox/lfkarrablast_ft_togekiss_with_pokerus/ )
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5:58 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63gzjt/for_trade_timid_mewtwo_caught_in_pokemon_yellow/dfu0ty0/
5:58 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.porybox.com/#/pokemon/982fe5cb137e16c6a4cf17987430e919
5:58 PM <@Kirzi> Ban?
5:58 PM <@Kirzi> No classic ribbon
5:58 PM <@Kirzi> (Also it's a Euro inlife event and he's US)
6:01 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on comment by /u/cranefishy, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63h185/ft_various_legendaries_lf_offers_such_as/dfu31gf )
6:05 PM <@Kirzi> r
6:08 PM <@iama> Kirzi: change looks good. I'd add fully though, so it says "fully confident"
6:09 PM <@Kirzi> Sure
6:09 PM <@iama> also reading SP's corrections, I agree with him
6:09 PM <@Kirzi> What do you think about the ban? Anything else I should ask before swinging it?
6:10 PM <@iama> no ribbon is pretty bad, did it have a region history
6:10 PM <@Kirzi> Gen 7
6:10 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on submission by /u/Wisdom_12, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63haec/looking_for_56iv_ditto_from_a_noneng_game/ )
6:10 PM <@Kirzi> But presumably no, it had same origin region has the other shinies
6:10 PM <@Kirzi> I'm guessing he got it in gen 4-5 GTS or so
6:11 PM <@iama> yeah probably
6:11 PM <@Kirzi> I'll swing it then
6:11 PM <@Kirzi> .ban
6:11 PM <+Porygon-Bot> http://hq.porygon.co/mod/banuser
6:12 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63hfq4/lf_a_4iv_ditto_from_a_nonenglish_game_ft_various/ by /u/Wisdom_12 breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63haec/looking_for_56iv_ditto_from_a_noneng_game/ )
6:12 PM <@iama> I see all the contest stuff is maxed too
6:13 PM <@Kirzi> Yep
6:18 PM <@Kirzi> Edited R2
6:52 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "No trading of hacked, cloned, or illegal Pokémon." (on submission by /u/Obility, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63hnrp/lf_hidden_ability_venipede_offering_shiny_lugia/ )
6:53 PM <@iama> .tag add --n "shiny ditto no info" https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63haec/looking_for_56iv_ditto_from_a_noneng_game/
6:53 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Successfully added note on /u/Wisdom_12:
6:53 PM <+Porygon-Bot> "shiny ditto no info" (a few seconds ago, by iama, on link reddit.com/63haec , colored yellow)
6:54 PM <@DoubleFried> r
7:11 PM <@DoubleFried> btw
7:11 PM <@DoubleFried> one of xamarqand's events went beard -> ejb via exchange
7:11 PM <@DoubleFried> how do we wanna handle that
7:11 PM <@Kirzi> Block it, but we can't force it
7:11 PM <@DoubleFried> xamarqand has mentioned being okay with trading ejb stuff for it to compensate
7:13 PM <@iama> >While it may seem nepotistic, I do believe that I was unfairly banned
7:13 PM <@iama> >nepotistic
7:13 PM <@DoubleFried> yup
7:13 PM <@DoubleFried> some real nepotism over here
7:14 PM <@DoubleFried> it's cause he's his uncle's nephew yknow
7:22 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63hu5i/lf_ha_speed_boost_venipede_ill_offer_some_ultra/ by /u/Obility breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63hnrp/lf_hidden_ability_venipede_offering_shiny_lugia/ )
7:24 PM <@Kirzi> .tell norman250 Your dude came back and is still ignoring https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63hrc6/lf_timid_hp_ice_nihilego_ft_modest_hp_grass/
7:24 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Saved message for norman250. Beep boop.
7:28 PM <@norman250> Oh, that guy. Wow, that's been a while
7:28 PM <+Porygon-Bot> norman250: Your dude came back and is still ignoring https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63hrc6/lf_timid_hp_ice_nihilego_ft_modest_hp_grass/ (from Kirzi, 2017-04-04 16:24:19 UTC-0700)
7:34 PM <@DoubleFried> .tag /u/Obility
7:34 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Notes on /u/Obility on /r/pokemontrades:
7:34 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (0) "6 hour rule" (13 minutes ago, by Porygon-Bot, on link reddit.com/63hu5i , colored yellow)
7:34 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (1) "shiny lugia no info "might be cloned"" (37 minutes ago, by DoubleFried, on link reddit.com/63hnrp , colored yellow)
7:34 PM <@DoubleFried> .tag -rm 0 /u/Obility
7:34 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Notes on /u/Obility on /r/pokemontrades:
7:34 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (0) "6 hour rule" (13 minutes ago, by Porygon-Bot, on link reddit.com/63hu5i , colored yellow)
7:34 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (1) "shiny lugia no info "might be cloned"" (37 minutes ago, by DoubleFried, on link reddit.com/63hnrp , colored yellow)
7:34 PM <@DoubleFried> .tag /u/Obility -rm 0
7:34 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Notes on /u/Obility on /r/pokemontrades:
7:34 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (0) "6 hour rule" (13 minutes ago, by Porygon-Bot, on link reddit.com/63hu5i , colored yellow)
7:34 PM <+Porygon-Bot> (1) "shiny lugia no info "might be cloned"" (37 minutes ago, by DoubleFried, on link reddit.com/63hnrp , colored yellow)
7:35 PM <@DoubleFried> .tag remove 0 /u/Obility
7:35 PM <+Porygon-Bot> Successfully deleted the following note. To undo this action, use ".tag undo-delete".
7:35 PM <+Porygon-Bot> "6 hour rule" (14 minutes ago, by Porygon-Bot, on link reddit.com/63hu5i , colored yellow)
7:46 PM <@Kirzi> norman250: Got him to reply to you. Let me know when you've cleared it and I'll reapprove his latest post (looks like he's still not mentioning self-obtained explicitly in yours)
7:46 PM <@norman250> Yeah, I just saw that.
7:55 PM <@norman250> Kirzi: he's good
7:56 PM <@Kirzi> Danke
7:59 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "possible mod question" (on comment by /u/InsertSubparPunHere, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63hrc6/lf_timid_hp_ice_nihilego_ft_modest_hp_grass/dfu95gg )
7:59 PM <@Kirzi> a
8:10 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63i3n8/lf_timid_hp_ice_nihilego_ft_helen_volcanion/ by /u/InsertSubparPunHere breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63hrc6/lf_timid_hp_ice_nihilego_ft_modest_hp_grass/ )
8:12 PM <@iama> norman250: ^
8:13 PM <@norman250> Why'd he make a new post, didn't you approve his last one, Kirzi?
8:13 PM <@Kirzi> Fuck if I know
8:14 PM <@norman250> Oh, he deleted, I guess so people wouldn't see mod clutter, maybe?
8:14 PM <@Kirzi> I even told him I reapproved it
8:14 PM <@Kirzi> Maybe
8:14 PM <@norman250> Welp, he deleted the new one too, so can't help him even if I wanted to
8:15 PM <@Kirzi> So much for reading the rules
8:16 PM <@Kirzi> https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63f8eu/lf_silver_caps_and_3_lucky_eggs_ftbreedables/dfu9zbe/?context=3
8:16 PM <@Kirzi> How do you "forget" that something isn't 6IV?
8:18 PM <@norman250>  "I forgot" probably means "I was hoping no one would notice until after I got what I wanted."
8:18 PM <@Kirzi> Probably
8:18 PM <@iama> <_<
8:18 PM <@Kirzi> Which is why I tagged
8:18 PM <@iama> in other news, minior guy has yet to reply
8:19 PM <@Kirzi> I've been refreshing his profile
8:19 PM <@Kirzi> He posted on reddit since so it seems he's ignoring
8:19 PM <@iama> mhm I'm looking at it now as well
8:19 PM <@iama> one post though, none on ptrades
8:20 PM <@Kirzi> Yea
8:20 PM <@iama> so I'll wait til he posts again on ptrades to warn; if he doesnt he'll get watchlisted
8:20 PM <@Kirzi> Yep
8:20 PM <@iama> there's like 10 people on watchlist atm who I'm waiting on replies from >_>
8:21 PM <@iama> not much I can do though if they choose to leave the sub
8:21 PM <@Kirzi> For now, it'd probably be good to send a modmail with what we found so that when he comes back, it's ready
8:21 PM <@Kirzi> Whether that's in 2 days, 2 months, or 2 years
8:22 PM <@iama> it's in tags though?
8:22 PM <@iama> although I suppose for this case a screencap of the relevant posts would be good
8:22 PM <@Kirzi> Not everything's in tags
8:22 PM <@Kirzi> Screenshots, Plaza links, the other stuff we found
8:22 PM <@iama> yea
8:22 PM <@Kirzi> Basically the point of sending a modmail would be
8:23 PM <@Kirzi> If for whatever reason you vanish for a week because of some emergency
8:23 PM <@Kirzi> Somebody else can easily pick up where you left off
8:23 PM <@Kirzi> That probably won't happen (no dying allowed etc), but it'll wind up in modmail anyway when we ban so
8:23 PM <@iama> ye
8:24 PM <@iama> I'll send that tonight when I get a chance
8:24 PM <@Kirzi> Sounds good, thanks
8:24 PM <@iama> might summarize some of my other watchlist folks there too
8:24 PM <@Kirzi> I have some people I've watchlisted without a modmail, but in those cases, the info in the tags is all there is, so no point
8:50 PM <@norman250> Oh man, that latest modmail
8:58 PM <@iama> >The ban is permanent. Sorry, but it is your job to take care that what you are offering follows the rules, and you were told to read the rules by my fellow moderator; that would have been a good time to take in Rule 1 and rectify the error. Now, we find this sudden realization of a "mistake" to be difficult to believe.
8:58 PM <@iama> proposed reply
8:59 PM <@Kirzi> Fine with me
9:00 PM <@norman250> I think its laughable that even when he admits some fault, he still calls it a "small" mistake
9:00 PM <@norman250> Getting your totally legit event mixed up with a hacked one, even if he is telling the truth, is a *huge* mistake
9:19 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "No trading of hacked, cloned, or illegal Pokémon." (on comment by /u/Tenebtheorc, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63f8eu/lf_silver_caps_and_3_lucky_eggs_ftbreedables/dftqo6e )
9:20 PM <@iama> oh
9:20 PM <@iama> moon ha nidoran f
9:21 PM <@iama> we decided that was illegal right
9:21 PM <@Kirzi> Yep
9:26 PM <@Kirzi> I don't get why banned people try swearing up and down that they won't break our most basic of rules
9:26 PM <@Kirzi> And think that's impressive enough that we'll unban them
9:26 PM <@iama> or that they will only trade breedables from this point on
9:26 PM <@norman250> I know I got caught, and that I dishonestly reported the origins, but I promise it won't happen again!
9:27 PM <@Kirzi> I mean if I went to someone's house and said "I promise I won't kill your cat", that doesn't exactly inspire confidence
9:27 PM <@norman250> >I have no desire to trade illegitimate Pokemon, and will, in the future, ensure that any and all hacked Pokemon stay far away from post on the subreddit.
9:28 PM <@norman250> Us too, by keeping you banned
9:29 PM <@iama> I also notice that a lot of people offering sketchy shit like to say "its from my friend who hates hacks"
9:29 PM <@iama> that just makes me more sketched out
9:30 PM <@Kirzi> I'm less sketched out by that, mostly because that could have been me years ago
9:30 PM <@Kirzi> The RNG'd Keldeo I traded was literally from my friend who hates hacks
9:30 PM <@Kirzi> The important difference being, I'm not actually just lying about having a friend who hates hacks
9:31 PM <@iama> yeah ofc
9:31 PM <@iama> like for you it would be fine
9:31 PM <@iama> but some sketchy noob offering stuff that's probably too good to be true
9:32 PM <@Kirzi> Yea
9:32 PM <@Kirzi> I also wouldn't word it like that, and didn't
9:32 PM <@Kirzi> It's just as simple as, I trusted them, so I didn't bother explaining further
9:33 PM <@Kirzi> Not that I was ever questioned, to be fair, but I probably would have done something like
9:33 PM <@Kirzi> "I've known them for several months now and I know their stance on hacks and clones, so I'm comfortable offering this"
9:35 PM <@iama> 👍
9:37 PM <@Kirzi> TLDR noobs will be sketchy
10:04 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63ipkv/lf_ha_sentret_stantler_tauros_and_patrat/ by /u/C-2S breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63hzub/lf_lure_ball_corphish/ )
10:09 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on submission by /u/Jaypolson, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63iqih/lf_foreign_ditto/ )
10:10 PM <@iama> r
10:19 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [Spam notification]: The thread https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63isfd/looking_for_a_foreign_ditto/ by /u/Jaypolson breaks the spam rule, and has been removed. (Old thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63iqih/lf_foreign_ditto/ )
10:20 PM <@iama> thats me
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11:01 PM <@Kirzi> Actually I'll mention this here
11:02 PM <@Kirzi> Gen 7 Pokemon can officially legally have a region history
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11:04 PM <&Raia> how?
11:05 PM <@iama> 👀
11:07 PM <@iama> dont just leave us all hanging like that D:
11:07 PM <@Kirzi> 23:03:47 <Akashini> I redeem on my kor console, take the cart and put it in my pal console, open bank, transfer mon, put pal cart, transfer mon into the cart and trade
11:08 PM <@Kirzi> KOR origin region, then a single entry in geolocation for England
11:10 PM <@iama> I take it she only has bank on pal console
11:11 PM <@Kirzi> I'm guessing so
11:11 PM <@Kirzi> It doesn't matter though
11:11 PM <@Kirzi> The other time I saw it, it went from Japan/no subregion to Japan/Tokyo (or vice versa, I forget)
11:12 PM <@Kirzi> So my conclusion is that it'll have a region history if a Pokemon goes from any game > Bank > different game set to a different region and/or country
11:13 PM <@iama> interesting
11:18 PM <@Kirzi> I guess the question is
11:18 PM <@Kirzi> Does Bank set the location, or does the game set the location?
11:21 PM <@Kirzi> Does anyone have the ability to test? (and the time/willingness to)
11:22 PM <@Kirzi> Maybe NA game > JPN Bank > different NA game started on a new save with a different location than the first NA game
11:22 PM <@Kirzi> Or something
11:23 PM <@Kirzi> I think it's game, since NA game > JPN Bank > same NA game (my setup) doesn't seem to do anything
11:23 PM <@Kirzi> But I dunno
11:24 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Full details must be posted for valuable Pokémon." (on submission by /u/spectre_neuf, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63j3px/lf_shiny_koko_event_ft_events_competitive_mon/ )
11:31 PM <@Kirzi> r
11:49 PM <+Porygon-Bot> [New report]: "Content must be related to Pokémon trading." (on submission by /u/DeanWithAn_N, https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemontrades/comments/63j5j3/anyone_online_for_friend_safari_ice_slot_3/ )
11:50 PM <@norman250> r