you have a smoking gun, use it.

https://medium.com/@mousetick/lies-damn-lies-and-gamergate-statistics-ed322dfc992f
http://www.cinemablend.com/m/games/EA-Admits-40-000-Users-Were-Hacked-Whistleblower-Steps-Forward-67256.html
http://blogjob.com/oneangrygamer/2014/10/gamergate-you-have-a-smoking-gun-use-it/
http://techraptor.net/content/gamergate-journos-lying-to-the-people
https://tidy.cc/pVxQlC5D
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=UUq7o8QHT25KqU6brpfqRrRA&v=Ai8JxK2609g
https://mobile.twitter.com/FartToContinue/status/526471091955703808/photo/1

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<+mattheww_> also, judges do a lot of work over thanksgiving break, that kind of thing
<Nippi> I didn't care much for a lot of Whedon's stuff but I didn't expect him to jump on that bandwagon
<morc> ranix: Certainly, but the jury changes every year, does it not? That alone sort of absolves IGF of systemic corruption in the selection of winners.
<voodoochild> and now I have to see that nasty fat fuck on twitter where he's desperately trying to stay relevant?
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<voodoochild> Nippi: If you didn't expect him to jump on the bandwagon then you don't know how much of a pussywhipped cuckhold he really is.
<+mattheww_> yeah, jury cycles pretty heavily for diversity reasons
<Nippi> That's what it seems like. All these old guys are jumping on the SJW train to stay relevant. I can't see any other reason why they would do that.
<ranix> morc: that depends on who was on the jury at the time Fez won awards.
<+mattheww_> I think they shoot for two years max?  I’m honestly not sure there
<Nippi> I don't pay much attention to him besides maybe looking into what Soon To Be Cancelled TV Show he is doing next.
<Nippi> But I would believe it.
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<TheBaconFromHell> Lol
<voodoochild> http://www.salon.com/2014/08/27/joss_whedon_blasts_misogynistic_video_games_tweets_support_for_feminist_frequency_founder/
<voodoochild> oh wait.
<voodoochild> sorry, don't click on that.
<TheBaconFromHell> TV is still a thing?
<morc> Fez being allowed in twice is bullshit. I'll give you that. But I don't think the entire thing is rigged from the get-go.
<ranix> judging by the way journalists have been self-incriminating I wouldn't be surprised if someone randomly spews some information
<voodoochild> https://twitter.com/josswhedon/status/504505877286895616
<&BenedictArnold> @josswhedon: "Watch the @femfreq #TropesvsWomen vids. Even if u think u get it, the sheer tonnage makes misogyny seem newly appalling." (https://archive.today/sq80V)
<TheBaconFromHell> Wooo! No point in posting that tweet!
<+mattheww_> yeah, an official rule was put up disallowing finalists year-over-year (but multiple entries is okay if you don’t hit finalist)
<Zero_1343> the thunderfoot video on joss was good
<Nippi> Somehow TV still is.
<+mattheww_> it’s happened a few times before fez, actually, and was always kind of iffy
<voodoochild> TheBaconFromHell: I was showing how much of a feminist shill Wheadon is.
<ShariVegas> joss whedon, that mother fucker.
<io-> Just ignore the nobodies like Joss Whedon anyway, just wannabe's trying to get attention
<io-> If people focus on them it just let's em cry harrassment
<TheBaconFromHell> Shill wheadon is still a thing? Lulz
<NotCanadian> so I assume mattheww_ here is a former IGF judge blowing the whistle?
<ShariVegas> it sucks because of past support io-
<TheBaconFromHell> I dont watch him anymore
<voodoochild> TheBaconFromHell: nobody does.
<ShariVegas> to think i supported this guy's work only to find he hates the people who made him
<+mattheww_> I wrote the backend!  not blowing the whistle, was here out of morbid curiosity and then just engaging to answer any questions on how it works
<+mattheww_> (also I’m part of indie fund, although not a lot of questions there really)
<io-> I know ShariVegas, I've lost respect for a lot of writers @ PCGamer etc I thought were alright before this
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<ranix> NotCanadian: no, mattheww_ is a software engineer who wrote the judging backend shedding light on how the software works because the most recent shortfatotaku guy asked questions about it
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<smeebored> fuk 8 am
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<Supersized> 0.
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<smeebored> time to get to work
<smeebored> if i wad one
<NotCanadian> i see
<Supersized> whoops, mistype
<Problematic> mattheww_: have you let all the attention go to your head yet
<voodoochild> mattheww_: Oh, have you come to join our Cathedral of Mysoginy?
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<ranix> mattheww_: tits or gtfo
<+mattheww_> I don’t people care at all about me!
<Nippi> Man, I've lost respect for a lot of people I know personally for continuing to support these idiots like Whedon and the writers at RPS, Kotaku, etc, etc.
<voodoochild> First you have to rape at least five women, and then you have to threaten Anita with more rape.
<+mattheww_> fuck if everyone was oogling aztez and asking questions there I’d love it
<Nippi> Fucking the apathy of most gamers knows no limit.
<ShariVegas> dude, why aren't the gamer youtuber's speaking up?
<ranix> all you have to do to sell aztez is put "From the makers of Offroad Velociraptor Safari" on it
<ranix> boom done
<sekat> mattheww_: you just need to have sex with the judges of the next festival you submit your game to
<voodoochild> Nippi: that's why we have to supplant them. This stuff isn't going to beat them, because so long as they exist they'll be a threat.
<sekat> then you'll have plenty of people oogling the game!
<TheBaconFromHell> I dont know who mattheww_ however I remain respectful.
<+mattheww_> ranix:  maybe!  I actually split the flashbang name for aztez just to avoid answering questions of what happened to flashbang/blurst while we worked on it
<voodoochild> We should be supporting or developing independant game critic sights.
<+mattheww_> which is probably terrible marketing or something (but it was a depressing topic)
<ranix> sux
<morc> I didn't notice you linking Aztez earlier in the day, but I'll read up on it in the morning. Bit late to start now.
<ranix> I will stick to hardware development
<TheBaconFromHell> I know mattheww is talking about stuff I care about.
<TheBaconFromHell> :V
<Taman_Shud> went on a fucking adventure.
<ranix> harder to cancel projects
<@EvilBob> http://puu.sh/bqqfI/d6d12f987a.jpg http://puu.sh/bqqho/218320a181.jpg
<maximumtacos> hey guys
<+mattheww_> morc:  pretty straightforward!  beat-em-up set in the aztec empire
<maximumtacos> here's a brief preview of my video
<maximumtacos> http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=n5o5dd%3E&s=8#.VA1U4vldX7E
<maximumtacos> i went ahead and did a fast chop job
<Nippi> Please, feel free to replace the people I know IRL with people who care.
<Taman_Shud> wait
<sekat> someone should make an aztec sacrifice simulator
<Taman_Shud> we are asking a game dev actual game dev questions and being civil?
<Taman_Shud> Fuck yeah
<morc> I like beat-em-ups, and I read about Aztecs in 3rd grade. Is it coming to Steam?
<maximumtacos> sekat
<maximumtacos> its called Spelunky
<+mattheww_> yup!  steam first (pc/mac/linux), then consoles laterish (xb1/ps4/vita)—we’re a two man team, so probably a bit later
<@EvilBob> Oh neat.
<voodoochild> maximumtacos: Awesome outfit fellow jihadi bro.
<morc> Linux? Sold. I've been needing more games on Linux.
<@yetsturdy> mattheww_: too bad you will be blackballed because of your being here
<Nippi> Someone should make a fucking Legends of the Hidden Temple game. You lose the game and you're sacrificed to Olmec.
<Taman_Shud> I wanted to make games, but right now I am working on a graphic novel.  Fucking expensive as fuck. fucking 10 grand for an artist because I suck
<@yetsturdy> your game will be kill
<sekat> maximumtacos: i mean like an economy simulator except based around keeping your bloodthirsty gods happy
<@yetsturdy> sekat: ha, that would be fun
<sekat> maximumtacos: SacrifiSim
<+mattheww_> that would be depressing!
<@yetsturdy> like a farming thing, but you have limited workers, and you have to sacrifice some of them to get the right weather control
<@yetsturdy> or else risk bad weather
<sekat> imagine if the aztecs weren't ignorant savages when it came to religion
<sekat> and their gods were real
<Taman_Shud> What Olmec or blood god economy simulator
<DarkHiero> Hahahahahaha
<@yetsturdy> so you have to balance using the gods vs letting nature take its course
<DarkHiero> My fucking sides
<voodoochild> Taman_Shud: give links to your work! Also why don't you just try making an actual novel? :P
<sekat> and even more horrible than the aztecs knew
<sekat> that would be a good premise for a game
<Taman_Shud> Because I fucking have written a novel as a ghost writer
<@yetsturdy> sekat: the gods ARE real
<Taman_Shud> and also I can publish stuff under my name because last job prohibits that
<Taman_Shud> well
<Zero_1343> i just looked into it, looks good so far. saw mentions of management stuff earlier in the chat which interests me
<io-> Does anyone know how the reddit thing panned out if at all?
<+mattheww_> there’s a strategy/empire layer in aztez, and you solve problems with a combat sequence (you win, good outcome with problem, you lose, bad outcome with problem, etc)
<Taman_Shud> makes it fucking complicated
<@yetsturdy> it's just that they don't directly interact with the world
<@yetsturdy> their will is enacted through the multitudes
<@yetsturdy> through their people
<TheBaconFromHell> I dont care about aztecs...
<Taman_Shud> Join the army, serve you country see the world, then join intelligence agencies and lose your ability to publsish shit in your name
<Taman_Shud> woo
<Taman_Shud> smart fucking move on my part
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<voodoochild> sekat: I've always wanted to make a sidescrolling game about a russian goldfish that goes through all of the stages of the russian revolution and fights anthropomorphic representations of political ideologies. Like a leopard for nazi's, octopus for jews, cat for capitalists, bear for stalinists, a tiger for the czar, ect ect.
<@yetsturdy> Join the army! Travel the world! Meet exotic people! And kill them!
<+mattheww_> not a lot of people do care about the aztecs!  I couldn’t think of a single cultural peice of entertainment in the works now (movie/book/show/etc)
<sekat> so we found our resident FBI agent?
<voodoochild> Saddly I'm technologically illiterate.
<Taman_Shud> Fuck those assholes from quantico
<sekat> or is it CIA?
<Taman_Shud> I am a langley man
<temet> the aztecs were bad ass
<Nippi> Why an octopus for Jews?
<Taman_Shud> And my homeboy worked at meade, granted he is in turkey now which sucks
<sekat> Taman_Shud: why would you shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane?
<temet> there's a ton of potential for narrative
<voodoochild> Taman_Shud: what novel did you write?
<temet> alot of lore
<TheBaconFromHell> We cared about aztecs when we thought the world was ganna end. Matt!
<TheBaconFromHell> Thats about it.
<Taman_Shud> Sekat: For You
<Nippi> Is it because they can pick up more shekels with more limbs?
<+mattheww_> weren’t those the mayans?
<TheBaconFromHell> Oh! And indiana jones.
<temet> yeah the Mayans
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<morc> When I was young, the newspaper or some local company ran a phone line where you could call and play an Aztec-themed audio choose-your-own-adventure. I loved it.
<TheBaconFromHell> Aztecs were like part of the mayan thing
<voodoochild> TheBaconFromHell: not really. They where like, 700 years apart.
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<+mattheww_> farther north (mexico basically, tenochtitlan is underneath mexico city at this point)
<Taman_Shud> but the graphic novel is basically freaking rage zombies and biological eldritch horrors versus guys in robots the size of 40k dreadnaugts
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<temet> the legend of the Eagle grasping the snake
<Taman_Shud> Ah yes
<Taman_Shud> Also
<Taman_Shud> TEMET READ YOUR SHIT
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<temet> ?
<temet> oh right
<temet> i just woke up
<ayylmao1488> so are we aztez general now?
<Taman_Shud> No worries bruh
<voodoochild> temet: "the legend of the Eagle grasping the snake" sounds like me when I stroke my american flagpole.
<sekat> voodoochild: that reminds me of that game about being the Iran's prime minister's cat during the CIA coup
<sekat> http://store.steampowered.com/app/95700/
<NotCanadian> >that exists
<Taman_Shud> oh gawd
<Taman_Shud> I want to play hat so hard
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<NotCanadian> well it better be as good as that game /v/ made up about being a lightpole
<Taman_Shud> I am trying to finish papers please without help though and I only have 5 endings
<NotCanadian> is it bad that I want that game about being a lightpole
<ranix> I'd rather be a lightpost than depressed
<ranix> there are probably wizards right now posting "I wish I was a street lamp"
<temet> voodoochild, your into genital mutilation?
<Taman_Shud> Waot
<Taman_Shud> Waiot
<Taman_Shud> Matt dubs
<Taman_Shud> quick question
<Taman_Shud> how would I go about making a graphic novel type game
<TheBaconFromHell> Lol
<voodoochild> sekat: wow, that game looks cool. And yea the concept is similar, except there would be glorious russian music in the background, the goldfish would be smoking a cigar and firing a Kalashnikov.
<Taman_Shud> because that's wanted to do and every fucking artist I get is flakier than a box with tony the tiger on it
<voodoochild> temet: only 4 u bebe
<morc> Drop the graphic part, or shell out for a good artist.
<sekat> voodoochild: play as Trotsky's goldfish throughout the October Revolution and Trotsky's exile
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<temet> alright, start taking HRT and call me back in 3 years
<NotCanadian> >you play as a lightpole
<morc> Download Twine and get to work. :^)
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<NotCanadian> >you can go at full power to blind an oncoming drunk driver, making him crash and freeing his family from the yoke of his abuse
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<NotCanadian> wud u this lightpole game y/n
<Taman_Shud> Novel game good artist
<Taman_Shud> wait
<TheBaconFromHell> You play as sarah lightpole and she has to light her way into finishing levels. Dont forget to pick up lightbulbs on the way.
<sekat> Taman_Shud: there are some robust python frameworks for making graphic novel games
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<Taman_Shud> And most python games are open source and I am learning it for class
<Taman_Shud> k seems reasonable
<temet> pygame
<sekat> like that framework Princess Trainer is made in
<temet> im gonna start on an HTML5 game soon
<Taman_Shud> game engines
<sekat> seems perfect for someone who can only draw and tell a story
<temet> and submit it to IGF
<temet> :3
<Taman_Shud> I cant draw for shit
<morc> git gud
<sekat> well then you need someone who can
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<voodoochild> sekat: I was thinking more like flashbacks. It would be a west german jewish fish that supported the failed revolution in 13, ran to russia and then faught nazis, afterwards faught the taliban and capitalists on the moon. But it would take place at the fall of the berlin wall.
<Taman_Shud> YEP
<sekat> otherwise you can't have much of a graphic novel game
<Intrus> Ask ZUN
<io-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%27Py Seems to be good if you just want to make a visual novel with no programming knowledge
<Taman_Shud> That's my whole issue
<Drybones> I'm looking at boogie talk on neogaf and they hate Sommers there, why?
<ranix> you don't need graphics if your words are good enough yo
<sekat> voodoochild: it would have to be a catfish then to live that long
<TheBaconFromHell> No programming knowledge... thats no fun...
<+mattheww_> really depends how much interactivity you need!  like, ask youself what the player is actually *doing* second-to-second
<sekat> voodoochild: i would play a game with a sapient catfish as the protagonist
<+mattheww_> and if it’s mostly “reading stuff” and “looking at rad art” you can get away with most any technology
<morc> Also, I would totally play that lightpole game. As long as it takes place at a slightly busy intersection so there aren't long stretches of nothing to interact with.
<voodoochild> sekat: a catfish with an epic beard.
<+mattheww_> even simple web page browser could tell a pretty sweet comic story
<RandomAxe> also, are you sure a screenplay or novella aren't better choices?
<sekat> voodoochild: catfishes already have whiskers that can pass for an asian moustache
<voodoochild> Sekat: I just love thinking about the opening screen: russian flag, lennin in the background, glorious russian anthem and the goldfish in the forefront. Goddamn.
<TheBaconFromHell> Ipad game.
<Intrus> Isn't Z-code also interesting for interactive novel?
<+mattheww_> solid option for any engine (unity / game maker / etc) is to join their forums and lurk for a bit, try to find another up-and-coming collaborator
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<Latmin> Woke up only recently and am seeing stuff about IGF and IndieCade. What happen?
<voodoochild> Sekat: the wiscers  would also make him smoking the cigar more cool. I was thinking there'd be silly extra minigames where he fights off phallic cigars in a freudian nightmare, and then has to fight freud and schrodinger's cat.
<+mattheww_> sleep for me, though, trying to wake up earlier these days :|
<TheBaconFromHell> Banishing people into the shadow realm, latmin.
<voodoochild> Sekat: all the while saying to himself "sometimes a cigar is only a cigar"
<TheBaconFromHell> Ukno... the usual
<Intrus> Among other available stuff http://www.ifarchive.org/indexes/if-archiveXgamesXzcode.html
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<morc> Thanks for coming by, mattheww_
<RandomAxe> mattheww_, much appreciated
<TheBaconFromHell> With the scary blacklist.
<io-> Latmin: infographic here https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bw-dYT_CIAActWR.jpg:large or video went up on ShortFatOtaku lastnight
<+mattheww_> it was a strange day!  hopefully was productive for everyone involved
<ranix> yeah good to see you, I will speak out at least if you get targeted
<Intrus> There's even a few one written in 2013
<ranix> and I will be checking out Aztez
<DarkHiero> Good night mattheww_.
<TheBaconFromHell> I wont
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<TheBaconFromHell> Mayans be damned!
<Taman_Shud> good night Mattdubs have fun  nice sleep, and Aztez is next on my purchase list
<maximumtacos> http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=n5o5dd%3E&s=8#.VA1U4vldX7E
<maximumtacos> INSURGENCY, SON
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<voodoochild> maximumtacos: you should do cutaways to infographics.
<io-> Wow, the only thing forgot is kids
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<Intrus> In a more general way: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-machine only interactive text
<voodoochild> maximumtacos: that's always a nice way to show info, with a voice overdubbed.
<maximumtacos> voodoochild
<maximumtacos> i'm going to do it
<maximumtacos> i just have a shitty videoeditor
<maximumtacos> i was going to get Vegas
<voodoochild> maximumtacos: sorry dude. I like giving unsolicited advice. :P
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