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- You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
- You both like advice.
- You: i have a problem
- Stranger: what’s up
- You: i'm agonizingly bad at talking to girls
- Stranger: as a girl, i can say that most girls are the same way
- You: you don't get it
- You: my friends have seen tons of girls over the years. some of them just attract them like magnets.
- You: me, i've had 1 one night stand in 7 years
- You: i just
- You: can't do it
- You: and each time i fail i feel worse and worse about it
- You: i'm stuck in a loop
- Stranger: if you get stuck in a mental block, you won’t get out of it
- You: you're supposed to be confident, but failing kills my confidence. so does watching my friends succeed all the time.
- You: i don't know what to do
- Stranger: damn yeah i get that
- Stranger: i feel like all you can do is just keep putting yourself out there
- You: i'm not getting any younger either, and i already used up a lot of years. the same years my friends had to build up all this experience.
- Stranger: it’s really hard and can definitely hurt sometimes but the more you do it, the easier it gets
- You: some of them are a few years younger than me
- You: and it's even more painful because these same friends encourage me all the time
- You: over this past weekend, there was a three day long airbnb party being hosted at our friend's house
- You: and i was there friday
- Stranger: well the first thing i would say is don’t compare yourself. that feels awful and won’t help anything. you are different than your friends and that’s not a bad thing!! the fact that they encourage you is awesome bc they clearly care about you. focus on you and building your confidence
- You: nothing happened, but the next day, one of my friends had to cover another of our friend's shift on a complete whim
- You: and the girls from the party saw him and invited him to the second night
- You: guess what happened to him
- You: meanwhile, i was out all by myself that night because i didn't know where anyone was
- You: and ended up tapping out early
- You: i actually had a gut feeling the party was going on, because i saw a bunch of people from friday night while i was out
- You: but i thought it would be impolite if i just followed them
- You: so yesterday i had to hear my friend's story of what happened
- You: it's agonizing because he and i have the same birth sign, so our horoscope for that week came true for him.... but not me
- You: this particular friend is some sort of savant. he's somehow magically good at everything he tries. i love him but i'm almost afraid to be anywhere with him because i feel upstaged.
- You: but even without him, my other friends are all way more experienced at this than me
- You: it's so hard not to feel like the runt
- You: and i'm the second oldest
- Stranger: i don’t know what to tell you honestly but getting girls doesn’t define any guy it’s hard to explain but your self worth is more than this
- Stranger: it sounds super cheesy
- You: it's not even a matter of self worth. it's just that this is something i'd actually like to have. i'm just terrible at getting it.
- Stranger: but so why you’re the second oldest you still have so much time to meet girls and gain more experience
- You: i turn 28 in two weeks
- You: it doesn't feel like i have much time left
- You: i wasted far too much of my 20s
- Stranger: well you can’t go back so don’t worry about it
- Stranger: you’re still young
- Stranger: it really is a matter of confidence i think. especially if you’ve been put down so many times it gets harder and it feels like that’s all that will ever happen but there are so many people out there
- You: i know there are, and my neighborhood is a big summer hotspot
- You: but i don't exactly have the energy to go out every day of the week
- You: my cousin recently quit his job and he's in a union
- You: so he can just go out whenever he pleases for however long he pleases
- You: a lot of my friends have much better jobs than me
- You: but my boss refuses to give me a raise
- Stranger: don’t compare yourselfff that will get you nowhere
- Stranger: you don’t have to go out everyday, go out when you feel up for it and make the best of that
- Stranger: talk to girls, get the feel of things. don’t count yourself out before you even start
- You: i've been
- You: apparently i come on too strong
- You: but
- You: i can't help but be eager
- You: it's been so long
- You: i don't know how to hold back
- You: the best i was able to do was 1 one night stand last year, and i think that only happened because she was high as shit
- Stranger: have you tried any dating apps or are you interested in thag
- Stranger: finding people who probably feel the same way
- You: i went through three okcupid accounts in the last seven years
- You: i also tried tinder for like a month before giving up
- You: my friends insist i should hit tinder
- You: one of them even met his current gf on there
- Stranger: yeah why not
- Stranger: what made you give up?
- You: literally no matches
- You: and on okcupid i barely mustered a conversation
- You: no girls would respond
- You: i asked someone online about it and they said my pictures looked terrible and my profile was too negative
- You: but i was super depressed and cynical at the time
- You: i genuinely have difficulty selling myself without being completely dishonest
- You: i just don't know how to lie
- You: people tell me to be myself but
- You: i don't think there's much to me
- Stranger: and there’s the problem
- Stranger: you have so much to offer
- You: well, whenever i do talk to girls where i live, they're usually from out of town and assume i surf since i live at the beach. and i don't. because i was never interested in that.
- Stranger: but by telling yourself everyday that you can’t talk to girls and no girls like you and you’re too negative.. it makes those things come true
- You: what do i even do in a situation like that
- You: but how can i make the opposite come true if the opposite never happens?
- You: the most frustrating thing of all is, i didn't even used to be like this
- You: i've had girlfriends before
- You: and when i was at school, i was kind of _over_ confident
- You: after i graduated, nothing happened the way i wanted and i fell into a really deep depression
- Stranger: confidence and being able to appreciate yourself is genuinely the first step to getting involved
- You: i wonder if maybe that depression damaged me permanently
- Stranger: don’t keep looking back. things don’t have to be the same
- Stranger: no definitely not
- You: this is tough. i'm a very memory-driven person.
- You: a lot of my interests are rooted in nostalgia.
- Stranger: keep putting yourself out there. build new interests, make new friends. focus on you now and what makes you happy now. don’t keep wasting time thinking about things you may regret
- Stranger: if you believe or not, you are still young!! you have time to change
- Stranger: you’re not damaged, you’re still growing
- You: very few things really interest me
- You: it's the way i am.
- You: my asperger's could be the root of it
- You: my interests are all extremely few and niche, but i never skimp out
- You: answer me this:
- You: do you like or play video games?
- Stranger: yeah sometimes with my brother
- You: wait, how old are you anyway?
- Stranger: i’m 18 haha
- You: you're a baby compared to me
- You: how can i trust what you tell me
- Stranger: good question
- Stranger: well it sounds probably insane to you but i’ve felt the exact same things
- You: i did too at 18, but i hoped i'd be past it by now
- Stranger: i’ve literally never been in a relationship and i always wonder what’s wrong with me
- You: the expectation is different for girls
- Stranger: i feel like i wasted time in highschool not experimenting at all and stuff
- Stranger: in what way
- You: if a girl is single, nowadays that's seen as empowering
- You: i feel like i wasted my time not experimenting in college
- You: it was an art school in new york city
- Stranger: there’s never anything wrong with being single
- You: i've been told that people need sex, sometimes by women
- You: and to an extent it feels like they're right
- You: do you know what it feels like to go this long with this little physical contact?
- Stranger: i do hahha. i’ve been my whole life without any. that fucking sucks. i guess i agree for the most part. humans thrive on social connections bc we are social creatures but there’s still more to life than that
- You: you're only 18
- You: it's common to lose it between 18 and 20
- You: i didn't actually have sex until
- You: last year
- You: :\
- You: and i didn't fully penetrate
- Stranger: there’s nothing wrong with that either and if now you’re looking for more experience, the only way to do that is to get out there
- You: it's not like i haven't been trying
- You: but this brings me back to what i said in the beginning
- You: i'm agonizingly bad at talking to girls
- You: i don't know if it's because i ooze awkwardness or despair, or because i'm bad at social cues in general because of my asperger's, or because i'm simply too much of an aquired taste
- Stranger: don’t say that though. that’s not true. you can talk to girls. you may have had bad experiences in the past or faced rejection but you are a human like anyone else. i guarantee there’s people out there who will think you are the most interesting and attractive person
- Stranger: don’t count yourself out
- You: i know there are. the last person who thought that, i completely blew it with.
- You: the girl i went home with last year obviously did
- You: but
- You: i blew that too because i didn't understand you weren't supposed to hang around the next day
- You: in my defense, she made it sound like it was ok
- You: this is me being bad at reading social cues again
- Stranger: and if she can’t understand or accept that may be a part of you then she isn’t worth your time
- You: it sucks to be on bad terms with her. any time i've seen her since last year she's avoided me.
- You: my friend is right when he says i come on too strong
- You: i just don't know how to not be empassioned.
- You: i don't know how to not care
- Stranger: and that’s not bad at all
- Stranger: it’s an endearing quality
- You: i know it is
- You: but
- You: when you first talk to a girl
- You: you can't be empassioned
- You: do guys ever talk to you?
- Stranger: and that’s some mental game bullshit
- Stranger: not often honestly
- Stranger: and i’ve tried figuring myself out and i’m just super quiet and awkward and i don’t have an inviting personality. when i felt awful about never getting attention or approached i realized it was my fault
- Stranger: i started talking to guys first and that made so much difference in my confidence. genuinely everyone has their different struggles but none of them are permanent
- You: that is extremely uncommon and i wish more girls did it
- You: it would take a fuckton of pressure off me
- You: but
- You: any time girls do
- You: i'm never the guy they talk to
- You: i'm supposedly handsome
- You: but not inviting
- Stranger: and maybe that means you come off as intimidating and girls are just nervous to talk to you
- You: i considered that
- You: i dunno how i'm more intimidating than my friend. he's taller than me.
- You: you sure i don't just look like a creep? :\
- Stranger: height has less to do with it than someone’s energy i would say. people who don’t smile a lot or talk a lot can send messages to people they may not want to
- Stranger: i get that a lot
- Stranger: and no you don’t
- You: i never have anything to say when i'm around
- You: more often than not my friends talk about things i wasn't involved in
- You: so i just sort of get left out
- Stranger: but i’m sure you still have other things to talk about
- Stranger: try hanging apart from your friends
- You: that's very tough
- You: i can't do much when i'm alone
- You: girls are attracted to comradery
- Stranger: i mean that’s not necessarily true, approaching a group of guys is definitely intimidating
- You: in my experience
- You: girls rarely come near me when i'm alone
- You: and trying to approach them by myself usually doesn't lead anywhere
- Stranger: and if they aren’t helping your confidence or make you feel left out then that’s not helpful either
- Stranger: but you can’t put them together and assume you’re the problem
- Stranger: meeting people is so situational
- You: but i don't know what to do
- You: whenever i'm out with my friends, they soak up all the attention
- You: it doesn't even matter how many
- You: when i'm with my cousin all the girls pay attention to him and ignore me
- You: same with my other friends
- You: i don't have a clear solution
- You: that's why i'm in such despair right now
- Stranger: don’t lose hope. i guess that’s my biggest advice, you will find somebody who appreciates you for you
- You: :\
- Stranger: who sees you first instead of your friends or cousins
- You: people like that are really hard to come by
- Stranger: it might seem impossible but it’s true
- Stranger: but they’re out there
- You: i didn't say they weren't
- Stranger: there isn’t really a clear solution honestly. you just have to keep moving forward and it will come
- You: but they're frustratingly rare
- Stranger: well then when you meet one imagine how that will feel
- Stranger: worth it and extra special
- You: ;-;
- Stranger: it’s out there for you i promise
- You: how can you possibly know that
- Stranger: because from talking to you i know you’re just a normal guy who seems really sweet but is just feeling stuck right now. and that happens to everyone. but there’s nothing that is stopping you from finding and being in a meaningful relationship
- Stranger: you just have to get through this low spot
- You: i didn't even say anything about meaninful relationships
- You: i do want one but
- You: i'd also like to be able to like
- You: have sex once in a while
- You: since that's apparently a normal thing
- Stranger: so that’s what you want or what you feel like is expected
- You: well if everybody in my age range is out having casual sex, why can't i
- Stranger: and honestly finding like minded people in that sense can be pretty hard but dating apps is where to go i’d say
- You: i had a feeling it was going to come to that
- Stranger: and there’s nothing saying you can’t
- Stranger: besides you i think, you’re limiting yourself by putting yourself doen
- You: if it would actually happen for once, maybe i'd stop
- You: :\
- Stranger: if you’re just looking for a physical connection, believe that a girl would be lucky to even get you into bed. build that worth and avoid the desperation that comes without it. it will happen
- You: is lying to myself really the way to go? i have so much trouble lying.
- You: can't girls immediately see through that?
- Stranger: no because it’s not a lie, you have value!! respect yourself enough to know that you have the ability to choose who you show yourself to
- Stranger: just because there aren’t girls waiting in line for someone doesn’t mean they aren’t as wanted as the next
- You: i still don't know what to actually do in practice, though
- Stranger: and that mainly just comes from experience which makes that a tough situation
- Stranger: you can always read online and watch realistic porn to get ideas
- You: realistic porn? o_O
- You: how will that help me talk to girls?
- Stranger: hahha aren’t we talking about in practice with having casual sex
- You: i meant the whole process
- You: because so far i can't even get a girl to go home with me
- Stranger: which also just needs practice and building experience
- You: i feel like enough is never enough
- You: i don't even know _what_ it is i'm supposed to be practicing
- You: all i've gathered is that it requires a ridiculous number of really tiny things that i can't seem to get together
- You: don't gawk, don't get too excited, but also don't get too muted
- You: be assertive but also be calm
- You: algebra is easier for me than this
- Stranger: it only requires you to say hey. start a conversation and then be yourself for the rest
- You: finding an opener isn't always so easy
- You: and sometimes attempting an opener is enough to scare them
- You: :\
- Stranger: a hey is all you need
- Stranger: it just starts with a conversation
- You: this isn't telling me anything new. -.-;
- Stranger: well that’s all i have
- You: i guess this is it, then
- Stranger: good luck
- You: bye
- You: and
- You: thank you
- Stranger: i hope it helped in some way i guess
- Stranger has disconnected.
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