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  2. [6/18/2015 6:50:58 AM] Gorski: potential min warp distance -> 250km change
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  4. [6/18/2015 6:51:09 AM] S: really good
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  6. [6/18/2015 6:51:30 AM] S: makes on-grid seperation so much better for small gang
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  8. [6/18/2015 6:51:33 AM] Gorski: also bc changes nowhere near done
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  10. [6/18/2015 6:51:35 AM] S: makes snipers better too
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  12. [6/18/2015 6:51:37 AM] Gorski: dont expect them in july
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  14. [6/18/2015 6:51:43 AM] S: but they will be before tournament?
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  16. [6/18/2015 6:51:49 AM] S: otherwise why change point costs
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  18. [6/18/2015 6:52:45 AM] Gorski: they will
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  20. [6/18/2015 7:02:44 AM] Gorski: endie is apparently angry at me
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  22. [6/18/2015 7:02:51 AM] Gorski: because I hijacked his reddit thread about logis
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  24. [6/18/2015 7:13:45 AM] KP: fucking ccp lol
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  26. [6/18/2015 7:13:53 AM] KP: @bc changes and timings before AT
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  28. [6/18/2015 7:14:02 AM] Gorski: they don't give a fuck about at when doing changes
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  30. [6/18/2015 7:14:09 AM] KP: yeah i understand
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  32. [6/18/2015 7:14:14 AM] KP: they used to do that though
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  34. [6/18/2015 7:14:16 AM] Gorski: the company doesn't care much like ccp are forced to do it in their spare time
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  36. [6/18/2015 7:14:33 AM] KP: well now i assume they dont give a fuck about AT overall
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  38. [6/18/2015 7:14:44 AM] KP: not just when rolling out balance changes
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  40. [6/18/2015 7:15:02 AM] Gorski: well its a couple of ccp employes doing it in their spare time
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  42. [6/18/2015 7:15:10 AM] KP: who?
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  44. [6/18/2015 7:15:27 AM] Gorski: logibro guard fozzie rise I think are helping
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  46. [6/18/2015 7:15:38 AM] KP: nice
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  48. [6/18/2015 7:15:46 AM] KP: i kind of like all of these guys for some reason :D
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  50. [6/18/2015 7:15:53 AM] Gorski: I don't like fozzie
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  52. [6/18/2015 7:15:55 AM] Gorski: rest are good
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  54. [6/18/2015 7:15:57 AM] KP: even tho ppl call rise a douchebag
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  56. [6/18/2015 7:15:59 AM] KP: wow why
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  58. [6/18/2015 7:16:06 AM] Gorski: because he doesn't listen to people at all
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  60. [6/18/2015 7:16:15 AM] Gorski: talking to fozzie on the csm was talking to a brick wall
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  62. [6/18/2015 7:16:17 AM] Gorski: NOPE WE ARE DOING THIS
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  64. [6/18/2015 7:16:19 AM] KP: i think fozzie is a smart guy
  65.  
  66. [6/18/2015 7:16:21 AM] KP: well
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  68. [6/18/2015 7:16:25 AM] Gorski: rise on the otherhand is easy to get stuff done with
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  70. [6/18/2015 7:16:31 AM] KP: if i were him i'd probably do the same
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  72. [6/18/2015 7:16:50 AM] KP: as in, if you have your arguments for some ideas and concerns voiced do not outweigh it
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  74. [6/18/2015 7:17:00 AM] KP: u just 'fuk u guys' and do your own thing
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  76. [6/18/2015 7:17:46 AM] Gorski: larrikin the new guy is pretty good as well
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  78. [6/18/2015 7:17:48 AM] Gorski: he listens
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  80. [6/18/2015 7:18:06 AM] KP: i mean, csm can help with voicing some claims which may show idea as bad, but just CSM voices w/o any good arguments backing them are shit
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  82. [6/18/2015 7:18:16 AM] KP: i dont know that dude
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  84. [6/18/2015 7:18:18 AM] Gorski: even if you post arguments
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  86. [6/18/2015 7:18:21 AM] Gorski: fozzie ignores them
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  88. [6/18/2015 7:18:38 AM] KP: i think he reads then and considers, just doesn't reply
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  90. [6/18/2015 7:18:44 AM] Gorski: thats actually true
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  92. [6/18/2015 7:18:48 AM] KP: because it's easier than wasting time on arguements
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  94. [6/18/2015 7:19:04 AM] Gorski: because he did change bc warp speeds and bs lock stuff when I asked him
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  96. [6/18/2015 7:19:06 AM] Gorski: but he never replied
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  98. [6/18/2015 7:19:40 AM] KP: well just imagine you were him, with amount of work you have to do - you have to communicate so much with so many ppl, so you have to do sacrifices somewhere
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  100. [6/18/2015 7:20:01 AM] Gorski: communicating with the 12 players who are closest to ccp should be something you do tho
  101.  
  102. [6/18/2015 7:20:12 AM] Gorski: he released the confessor and svipul without even asking anyone
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  104. [6/18/2015 7:20:24 AM] KP: yeah it's bad i agree
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  106. [6/18/2015 7:20:25 AM] KP: but then
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  108. [6/18/2015 7:20:43 AM] KP: i dont believe that these 12 ppl are not retarded and are not telling retarded arguments
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  110. [6/18/2015 7:20:52 AM] KP: after reading through several meeting minutes of CSM
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  112. [6/18/2015 7:21:03 AM] Gorski: haha yeah
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  114. [6/18/2015 7:21:33 AM] S: Because CSM is not rationale/critical argument platform
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  116. [6/18/2015 7:21:36 AM] KP: so you just engage into talk with few ppl which you consider good + with the rest if they post valid proposals backed by some serious analysis/arguments
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  118. [6/18/2015 7:21:39 AM] S: its a popularity contest
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  120. [6/18/2015 7:21:52 AM] KP: and ignore anything u dont like to not waste time
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  122. [6/18/2015 7:21:58 AM] KP: so i understand fozzie easily
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  124. [6/18/2015 7:22:00 AM] Gorski: well if you are elected you gotta talk to ppl and ask what they think
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  126. [6/18/2015 7:22:04 AM] S: many of the CSM members from 0.0 are just mouth pieces
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  128. [6/18/2015 7:22:06 AM] Gorski: you cant just get elected and then stop talking
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  130. [6/18/2015 7:22:08 AM] KP: (he doesn't often reply me too :( )
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  132. [6/18/2015 7:22:10 AM] S: who say what their alliance tells them
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  134. [6/18/2015 7:22:17 AM] S: much like goverment IRL
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  136. [6/18/2015 7:22:23 AM] KP: "[7:22:15 PM] S: many of the CSM members from 0.0 are just mouth pieces" exactly
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  138. [6/18/2015 7:22:34 AM] Gorski: I don't even know why people call Rise a douchebag or what he did to desrve that but he is a douchebag sometimes
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  140. [6/18/2015 7:22:54 AM] S: from tournament
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  142. [6/18/2015 7:22:55 AM] KP: neither do i
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  144. [6/18/2015 7:23:13 AM] S: its just retards from BSB mostly
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  146. [6/18/2015 7:23:23 AM] Gorski: http://puu.sh/itre0/cc7785b4a5.jpg
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  148. [6/18/2015 7:23:27 AM] S: there are people in BSB who still think RLMLs are underpowered
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  150. [6/18/2015 7:23:33 AM] S: and rise killed them
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  152. [6/18/2015 7:23:41 AM] KP: lol
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  154. [6/18/2015 7:23:44 AM] S: they just spew shit
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  156. [6/18/2015 7:23:45 AM] KP: wait for link nerf
  157.  
  158. [6/18/2015 7:23:52 AM] Gorski: link removal
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  160. [6/18/2015 7:23:55 AM] KP: you'll see how better they'll become
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  162. [6/18/2015 7:23:57 AM] Gorski: its leaning towards that btw
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  164. [6/18/2015 7:24:09 AM] KP: u mean removal, not rework?
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  166. [6/18/2015 7:24:12 AM] Gorski: remove
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  168. [6/18/2015 7:24:17 AM] KP: i think it will be so much overlapping
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  170. [6/18/2015 7:24:19 AM] Gorski: then rework when dogma works
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