[6/18/2015 6:50:58 AM] Gorski: potential min warp distance -> 250km change

[6/18/2015 6:51:09 AM] S: really good

[6/18/2015 6:51:30 AM] S: makes on-grid seperation so much better for small gang

[6/18/2015 6:51:33 AM] Gorski: also bc changes nowhere near done

[6/18/2015 6:51:35 AM] S: makes snipers better too

[6/18/2015 6:51:37 AM] Gorski: dont expect them in july

[6/18/2015 6:51:43 AM] S: but they will be before tournament?

[6/18/2015 6:51:49 AM] S: otherwise why change point costs

[6/18/2015 6:52:45 AM] Gorski: they will

[6/18/2015 7:02:44 AM] Gorski: endie is apparently angry at me

[6/18/2015 7:02:51 AM] Gorski: because I hijacked his reddit thread about logis

[6/18/2015 7:13:45 AM] KP: fucking ccp lol

[6/18/2015 7:13:53 AM] KP: @bc changes and timings before AT

[6/18/2015 7:14:02 AM] Gorski: they don't give a fuck about at when doing changes

[6/18/2015 7:14:09 AM] KP: yeah i understand

[6/18/2015 7:14:14 AM] KP: they used to do that though

[6/18/2015 7:14:16 AM] Gorski: the company doesn't care much like ccp are forced to do it in their spare time

[6/18/2015 7:14:33 AM] KP: well now i assume they dont give a fuck about AT overall

[6/18/2015 7:14:44 AM] KP: not just when rolling out balance changes

[6/18/2015 7:15:02 AM] Gorski: well its a couple of ccp employes doing it in their spare time

[6/18/2015 7:15:10 AM] KP: who?

[6/18/2015 7:15:27 AM] Gorski: logibro guard fozzie rise I think are helping

[6/18/2015 7:15:38 AM] KP: nice

[6/18/2015 7:15:46 AM] KP: i kind of like all of these guys for some reason :D

[6/18/2015 7:15:53 AM] Gorski: I don't like fozzie

[6/18/2015 7:15:55 AM] Gorski: rest are good

[6/18/2015 7:15:57 AM] KP: even tho ppl call rise a douchebag

[6/18/2015 7:15:59 AM] KP: wow why

[6/18/2015 7:16:06 AM] Gorski: because he doesn't listen to people at all

[6/18/2015 7:16:15 AM] Gorski: talking to fozzie on the csm was talking to a brick wall

[6/18/2015 7:16:17 AM] Gorski: NOPE WE ARE DOING THIS

[6/18/2015 7:16:19 AM] KP: i think fozzie is a smart guy

[6/18/2015 7:16:21 AM] KP: well

[6/18/2015 7:16:25 AM] Gorski: rise on the otherhand is easy to get stuff done with

[6/18/2015 7:16:31 AM] KP: if i were him i'd probably do the same

[6/18/2015 7:16:50 AM] KP: as in, if you have your arguments for some ideas and concerns voiced do not outweigh it

[6/18/2015 7:17:00 AM] KP: u just 'fuk u guys' and do your own thing

[6/18/2015 7:17:46 AM] Gorski: larrikin the new guy is pretty good as well

[6/18/2015 7:17:48 AM] Gorski: he listens

[6/18/2015 7:18:06 AM] KP: i mean, csm can help with voicing some claims which may show idea as bad, but just CSM voices w/o any good arguments backing them are shit

[6/18/2015 7:18:16 AM] KP: i dont know that dude

[6/18/2015 7:18:18 AM] Gorski: even if you post arguments

[6/18/2015 7:18:21 AM] Gorski: fozzie ignores them

[6/18/2015 7:18:38 AM] KP: i think he reads then and considers, just doesn't reply

[6/18/2015 7:18:44 AM] Gorski: thats actually true

[6/18/2015 7:18:48 AM] KP: because it's easier than wasting time on arguements

[6/18/2015 7:19:04 AM] Gorski: because he did change bc warp speeds and bs lock stuff when I asked him

[6/18/2015 7:19:06 AM] Gorski: but he never replied

[6/18/2015 7:19:40 AM] KP: well just imagine you were him, with amount of work you have to do - you have to communicate so much with so many ppl, so you have to do sacrifices somewhere

[6/18/2015 7:20:01 AM] Gorski: communicating with the 12 players who are closest to ccp should be something you do tho

[6/18/2015 7:20:12 AM] Gorski: he released the confessor and svipul without even asking anyone

[6/18/2015 7:20:24 AM] KP: yeah it's bad i agree

[6/18/2015 7:20:25 AM] KP: but then

[6/18/2015 7:20:43 AM] KP: i dont believe that these 12 ppl are not retarded and are not telling retarded arguments

[6/18/2015 7:20:52 AM] KP: after reading through several meeting minutes of CSM

[6/18/2015 7:21:03 AM] Gorski: haha yeah

[6/18/2015 7:21:33 AM] S: Because CSM is not rationale/critical argument platform

[6/18/2015 7:21:36 AM] KP: so you just engage into talk with few ppl which you consider good + with the rest if they post valid proposals backed by some serious analysis/arguments

[6/18/2015 7:21:39 AM] S: its a popularity contest

[6/18/2015 7:21:52 AM] KP: and ignore anything u dont like to not waste time

[6/18/2015 7:21:58 AM] KP: so i understand fozzie easily

[6/18/2015 7:22:00 AM] Gorski: well if you are elected you gotta talk to ppl and ask what they think

[6/18/2015 7:22:04 AM] S: many of the CSM members from 0.0 are just mouth pieces

[6/18/2015 7:22:06 AM] Gorski: you cant just get elected and then stop talking

[6/18/2015 7:22:08 AM] KP: (he doesn't often reply me too :( )

[6/18/2015 7:22:10 AM] S: who say what their alliance tells them

[6/18/2015 7:22:17 AM] S: much like goverment IRL

[6/18/2015 7:22:23 AM] KP: "[7:22:15 PM] S: many of the CSM members from 0.0 are just mouth pieces" exactly

[6/18/2015 7:22:34 AM] Gorski: I don't even know why people call Rise a douchebag or what he did to desrve that but he is a douchebag sometimes

[6/18/2015 7:22:54 AM] S: from tournament

[6/18/2015 7:22:55 AM] KP: neither do i

[6/18/2015 7:23:13 AM] S: its just retards from BSB mostly

[6/18/2015 7:23:23 AM] Gorski: http://puu.sh/itre0/cc7785b4a5.jpg

[6/18/2015 7:23:27 AM] S: there are people in BSB who still think RLMLs are underpowered

[6/18/2015 7:23:33 AM] S: and rise killed them

[6/18/2015 7:23:41 AM] KP: lol

[6/18/2015 7:23:44 AM] S: they just spew shit

[6/18/2015 7:23:45 AM] KP: wait for link nerf

[6/18/2015 7:23:52 AM] Gorski: link removal

[6/18/2015 7:23:55 AM] KP: you'll see how better they'll become

[6/18/2015 7:23:57 AM] Gorski: its leaning towards that btw

[6/18/2015 7:24:09 AM] KP: u mean removal, not rework?

[6/18/2015 7:24:12 AM] Gorski: remove

[6/18/2015 7:24:17 AM] KP: i think it will be so much overlapping

[6/18/2015 7:24:19 AM] Gorski: then rework when dogma works