Disclaimer: Don't overestimate gmaxwell's role in this, this chatlog was chosen because it paints pretty good picture of the whole situation, not because gmaxwell was some central subject of this. Thanks for your understanding. --lnovy

23:25 <@gmaxwell> kunwon1: I don't think that jzk1 was the flood bot operator.
                  Maybe you're jumping at ghosts.
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23:25 <@kunwon1> you're wrong.
23:25 <@kunwon1> he's been doing it for years
23:25 < aulhan> woodman talked a ton about litecoin
23:26 <@kunwon1> i am absolutely, 100% sure that jzk was the floodbot operator
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23:26 <@kunwon1> it sounds silly, but i'm an expert on this topic
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23:26 < zacm> lol
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23:26 < moli> emma: hi
23:26 <@gmaxwell> kunwon1: the logs show him as not at all disruptive here
                  (compared to the norm at least)
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23:26 < cokea_afk> gmaxwell
23:26 <@kunwon1> you're right. my bot banned him because he's a known flood bot
                 operator, he's done it to a dozen other channels that i know of
23:26 < cokea_afk> I got something for you
23:26 <@kunwon1> and after that, he sent in floodbots
23:27 <@kunwon1> between those two events, i would have considered unbanning him
23:27 <@gmaxwell> the floodbots came in hours and hours after that ban.
23:27 <@kunwon1> but not now
23:27 <@kunwon1> look, you can trust me or you can distrust me
23:27 <@gmaxwell> and I unbanned him immediately when I saw the inexplicable bot
                  ban.
23:27 < aulhan> so no news then i take it
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23:28 < aulhan> tally ho!
23:28 <@gmaxwell> I don't trust or distrust you, I'm saying the that particular
                  nick has not been disruptive in here— or IIRC in any bitcoin
                  related channels in recent memory. Until its disruptive why not
                  let sleeping dogs lie?
23:28 <@kunwon1> i assume it takes him a bit of time to compile a list of open
                 proxies to use for flooding
23:28 < cokea_afk> gmaxwell: got a moment? check my pm
23:28 <@kunwon1> gmaxwell: i don't disagree with you on that point.
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23:28 <@kunwon1> gmaxwell: but that ship sailed once he sent in the floodbots
23:29 < jbenedetto> oh lord
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23:29 <@kunwon1> goxbot9000 is based on a framework i developed for channel
                 protection, it's active in many channels on freenode
23:29 <@kunwon1> it has a shared list of problem users
23:29 <@kunwon1> that's what got him banned the first time
23:29 < jbenedetto> kunwon1: it sounds like you have some kinda grudge
23:29 <@kunwon1> this list of users has four people on it
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23:29 <@gmaxwell> I don't see any concrete evidence that he sent in the flood
                  bots, and the timing isn't consistent with him being banned
                  either. There have been many people flooding this channel.
23:29 <@kunwon1> four people who are known to repeatedly and maliciously attack
                 channels without cause
23:30 <@kunwon1> yes, and as i said, i'm 100% sure that it was him
23:30 <@lnovy> could you forgive him?
23:31 <@kunwon1> forgive? i have nothing against the guy personally
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23:31 <@kunwon1> but he will never be allowed back in this channel as long as i
                 have a say in it
23:31 <@kunwon1> i will not reward terrorism
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23:31 < Aeiri> that.. is the opposite of what you just said
23:32 <@kunwon1> how so?
23:32 <@lnovy> you know... that's not a terrorism... that's a sit-in
23:32 < Aeiri> you "have nothign against him" then say you'll never let a terroist
               in
23:32 < MasterMaA> kunwon1: Let it be man...let the guy return...If he does
                   something wrong, then you punish him! It is just an irc channel
23:32 <@gmaxwell> Okay. My participation here is over until kunwon1 is out of the
                  channel. Cheers.
23:32 < orisma> what happened i hear TERRORISM
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23:32  * lnovy clapping
23:32 <@kunwon1> MasterMaA: absolutely not
23:33 <@kunwon1> Aeiri: i have nothing personal against him, but i have nothing
                 personal against grizzly bears either
23:33 <@kunwon1> doesn't mean i will leave my cabin door open in the forest
23:33 < jbenedetto> *slow claps*
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23:35 < Aeiri> im just going to leave both channels and exclusively use #bitcoin
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23:35 < karthus> such terror from spamming on irc... terrorism, grizzlies...
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23:36 < grrrrr_g1rrr> 23:35 < ne0futur> fairness  is not saying "i m 100% sure he
                      killed someone :death penalty"
23:36 < Dr-G> deop all the ops
23:36 <@kunwon1> it's so fucking sad that one fucking troll is able to cause this
                 much disruption
23:36 <@kunwon1> ne0 is gullible. a good guy, but gullible