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- ♪ intermittent
- percussive beats ♪
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- [whirring]
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- [click]
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- [whirring]
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- [click]
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- ♪ brooding instrumental music ♪
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- [Chelsea] I don't know. I just
- like coming-of-age stories.
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- There's something about them.
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- Not...
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- ...hero versus villain.
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- Maybe it's the trans
- part of me that feels like
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- life is a coming-of-age story.
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- I'm not the person
- that people think I am.
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- I just know that.
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- [bleeping]
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- [muffled radio chatter]
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- [muffled radio chatter]
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- [bleep]
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- [keyboard clacking]
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- [faint hum of vehicle engine]
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- [phone rings]
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- [woman] Hold on.
- I've got to take this call.
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- I've got to take this call.
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- Hello.
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- Hello?
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- Hello?
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- Yes, it is.
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- I do.
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- [pen writing]
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- Oh, my God.
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- - [she laughs] Oh, my God!
- - [device chimes]
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- What did he commute it to?
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- Oh.
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- Oh, I can't tell you...
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- I can't tell you how happy I am.
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- Thank you so much. How do I...
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- He's gonna announce it
- in a couple of minutes?
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- And how do we tell her?
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- Vince!
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- I'm sorry to interrupt you.
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- I just got a call
- from the President's counsel.
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- It's commuted plus 120 days.
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- - Are you serious?
- - Yeah, the...
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- Let's do it out here.
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- The President's counsel
- just called me.
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- He's gonna announce it
- in a couple of minutes.
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- I'm pretty speechless.
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- [laughs] I'm gonna start crying.
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- Holy shit!
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- Fucking shit.
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- [phone bleeps]
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- [she laughs]
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- It's just...
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- I just... I just...
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- I can't even fucking...
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- It's crazy.
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- Jesus fucking Christ.
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- [indistinct speech
- over computer]
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- [Barack Obama]
- First of all...let's be clear,
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- Chelsea Manning has served
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- a tough prison sentence.
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- [cameras clicking]
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- The sentence that she received
- was disproportionate
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- relative to what other leakers
- had received.
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- She took responsibility
- for her crime.
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- It made sense to commute,
- and not pardon, her sentence.
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- - Nancy just got the order...
- - I just got it.
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- ...with the Barack Obama
- signature.
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- - Oh, my God!
- - So that is in possession.
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- [Chelsea] Oh, God.
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- - This is a lot to process.
- - Yeah, it is.
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- - These types of huge changes.
- - Yeah, yeah.
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- So...
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- You know, we're here, Chelsea.
- We're thrilled for you.
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- But it doesn't mean
- it's all just simple.
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- - [beep over phone]
- - An inmate
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- at a military
- correctional complex...
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- - [beep over phone]
- - ...Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
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- This call is from
- a correction facility
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- and is subject to monitoring
- and recording.
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- This is a prepaid call from...
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- - Manning.
- - [beep over phone]
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- [keyboard clacking]
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- Hey. So, you're on today's
- New York Times.
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- And your story is
- upper right-hand corner, baby.
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- [Chelsea] Yay!
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- He had to be a human being
- for this to work.
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- We didn't know
- if he was or not, right?
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- I didn't know.
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- Yeah?
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- I got the Elle magazine.
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- Hold on.
- I'm running off to get it.
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- Where did that thing go?
- Oh, here it is.
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- I got the Elle.
- They didn't have Marie Claire.
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- But it's gonna
- come in tomorrow.
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- Yes. And bow...
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- And a bow.
- Bows on the shoulders.
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- Yes?
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- Six women.
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- - Far left. A little suit.
- - Yeah.
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- Yeah. That's cute.
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- - Vincent?
- - Yes, ma'am.
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- Commander, sir. I'm gonna be
- there to make sure she's safe.
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- - That's great.
- - You know, we did her clemency.
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- We're her clemency lawyers.
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- We're gonna make sure
- this clemency happens.
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- She's really worried
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- that she's gonna
- do something stupid.
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- What does that mean?
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- Well,
- what she kept saying was,
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- "I might run away. You guys
- should be aware of that."
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- And I said, "You're not...
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- Once you're with us,
- you won't be able to run away."
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- I don't think people realize
- how traumatic
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- getting out of jail is.
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- Imagine going from
- being in the military
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- - to being incarcerated.
- - I know.
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- Because people who are
- in the military and get out
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- - have difficulty transitioning.
- - That's right.
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- She needs to go figure out
- her life.
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- [Vince]
- Having been in the military,
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- I can't imagine
- making a decision like that.
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- I just can't.
- No chance I would've done that.
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- It takes a rare
- historical person
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- who is willing to sacrifice
- personal freedom
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- and all the privileges of life,
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- doing what he or she thinks
- is the right thing to do.
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- You have to have a little bit
- of a sense of self-importance
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- about yourself...
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- ...a bit of ignorance...
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- ...a little bit of
- a sense of optimism.
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- Mostly, they're just people
- who, deep down,
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- feel as though
- there's some problem
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- or something's really wrong.
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- [rain pattering]
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- [thunder rumbles]
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- Yeah.
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- [radio channels being scanned]
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- [man] I'm particularly bitter
- that a Commander in Chief,
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- in a time of war,
- would pardon a traitor.
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- [woman] Republican
- House Speaker Paul Ryan
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- released a statement saying,
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- "Chelsea Manning's treachery
- put American lives at risk."
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- [man 2] This young man
- or woman, or whatever,
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- should have been hung.
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- [man 3]
- I don't think it's right.
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- She should serve her time.
- 35 years.
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- [man 4] 100 years ago,
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- they'd have just taken him out
- and shot him.
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- [woman 2] The debate about
- how much harm was caused,
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- or wasn't,
- by her actions, is ongoing.
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- National security officials
- will tell you
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- Manning gravely harmed
- national security.
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- [man 5] So far as
- actually killing someone,
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- there's absolutely no credible
- allegation of that happening.
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- [man 6] And another factor,
- as you alluded to,
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- seems to be the stress for
- Manning's gender transition.
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- [woman 3] Chelsea Manning
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- attempted to commit suicide
- twice last year.
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- [man 7] Is it clear that
- the gender transition concern
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- was part of this, that she'd
- been going through...?
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- [man 8] It seems to be.
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- [jet engine whining]
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- ♪ brooding instrumental music ♪
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- ♪ ♪ ♪
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- ♪ brooding piano music ♪
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- ♪ ♪ ♪
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- ♪ tone of music brightening ♪
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- ♪ ♪ ♪
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- - Another day.
- - Hey.
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- Another day in the woods.
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- [Nancy laughs]
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- [birdsong]
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- [bird squawking]
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- [Chelsea] God,
- it's such a beautiful sight.
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- I wasn't handling it
- very well initially.
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- - You...
- - Aargh.
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- We were in an actually
- incredibly stressful situation
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- where I thought
- I was gonna vomit.
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- - Um, so...
- - You wanted to vomit, too?
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- Yeah. I really did.
- I was, like, "Oh,
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- I'm gonna be super embarrassed
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- if I throw up in front of
- these security guys."
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- - We're still trying to adjust.
- - Yeah.
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- To find a soft landing.
- So, I think, today,
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- just kind of...
- vegging out a little bit
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- and, like, you know,
- like, learning.
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- Learning how to...
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- I mean, for me,
- learning how to...
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- Yeah.
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- 00:15:00,625 --> 00:15:02,875
- ...be again.
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- Yeah, fuck,
- I mean, you're, like...
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- - Fuck.
- - [laughs]
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- - It's still sort of amazing.
- - Yeah.
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- And unimaginable,
- like, this is...
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- ...this is where you are
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- on May 17, 2017.
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- 00:15:17,834 --> 00:15:20,250
- - Yeah.
- - And not 2045.
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- - How the fuck did I get here?
- - Yeah.
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- You ever find yourself
- asking yourself that?
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- - Yeah. Yeah, I do.
- - "How did I get here?"
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- Yeah.
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- It just feels so natural
- for me to do whatever I want...
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- - Yeah. Yeah.
- - ...in nature.
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- [Chelsea]
- You get past this idea
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- of, like,
- "Oh, a miracle might happen."
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- I mean, I was in prison
- for the rest of my life.
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- There was a lot of
- people that...
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- didn't think
- it was worth the effort,
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- didn't think Obama
- would consider it,
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- it was never gonna happen.
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- It was a shot in the dark.
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- [water running from tap]
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- [water off]
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- I am not a make-up artist,
- by any means.
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- I had to learn in prison,
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- making shit up
- as I went along.
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- I'm sure there's a bazillion
- tutorials on YouTube.
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- There's a disproportionate
- number
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- of trans women in the military.
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- You know? Like something...
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- Something about, like,
- our twenties,
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- and I was, like, running away
- from, you know...
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- 00:16:46,834 --> 00:16:49,500
- ...this... this weird problem
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- that, like, we're cross-dressing
- and stuff.
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- Like, I was trying to,
- like, man up and...
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- I... I think
- I'm not alone in that.
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- There's a lot of
- social pressure,
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- especially for people
- in, like, the South
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- and people in the Southwest,
- and the West.
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- Um...
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- Yeah, I think there's
- a pressure to...conform,
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- 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,667
- and what better
- conformity environment
- 234
- 00:17:13,667 --> 00:17:14,917
- than the military?
- 235
- 00:17:14,917 --> 00:17:16,542
- So...
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- 00:17:19,583 --> 00:17:23,875
- I saw it as kind of like
- going cold turkey from, like...
- 237
- 00:17:23,875 --> 00:17:25,333
- a drug addiction or something,
- 238
- 00:17:25,333 --> 00:17:27,750
- or, like, trying to quit
- cigarettes or something.
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- 00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:30,250
- But, obviously, you can't stop
- being who you are.
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- 00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:33,917
- So, that was always...
- never gonna happen.
- 241
- 00:17:35,875 --> 00:17:38,250
- And this is a fantastic
- shade of lipstick.
- 242
- 00:17:39,542 --> 00:17:41,709
- [birdsong]
- 243
- 00:17:41,709 --> 00:17:43,500
- [stream babbling]
- 244
- 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:45,083
- [birdsong]
- 245
- 00:17:57,959 --> 00:18:00,750
- [Chelsea]
- I could hear the river from...
- 246
- 00:18:00,750 --> 00:18:02,834
- prison, on a non-windy day.
- 247
- 00:18:02,834 --> 00:18:05,125
- Because there was
- the Missouri River...
- 248
- 00:18:06,750 --> 00:18:08,125
- ...right outside the uh...
- 249
- 00:18:08,125 --> 00:18:10,083
- right outside
- the prison itself.
- 250
- 00:18:10,083 --> 00:18:11,333
- Through the tree...
- 251
- 00:18:11,333 --> 00:18:13,250
- If you go beyond
- the treeline of the prison,
- 252
- 00:18:13,250 --> 00:18:15,208
- there's the river...um...
- 253
- 00:18:16,750 --> 00:18:18,792
- And...so, but...
- 254
- 00:18:18,792 --> 00:18:20,834
- I haven't heard
- a stream like this.
- 255
- 00:18:20,834 --> 00:18:22,792
- This is just... It's nice.
- 256
- 00:18:23,625 --> 00:18:25,834
- It's nice to have a stream.
- 257
- 00:18:25,834 --> 00:18:28,792
- It's nice to have leaves,
- you know?
- 258
- 00:18:28,792 --> 00:18:29,875
- [leaves crunching]
- 259
- 00:18:31,125 --> 00:18:33,125
- [man]
- 260
- 00:18:33,625 --> 00:18:35,875
- What story?
- 261
- 00:18:35,875 --> 00:18:38,458
- Uh... That's a good question.
- 262
- 00:18:49,792 --> 00:18:51,709
- ♪ brooding instrumental music ♪
- 263
- 00:19:01,667 --> 00:19:05,166
- [Chelsea] I grew up in a small
- town: Crescent, Oklahoma.
- 264
- 00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:09,917
- I had a...complicated
- relationship with my father.
- 265
- 00:19:11,208 --> 00:19:12,750
- You know, like, he would
- just...
- 266
- 00:19:12,750 --> 00:19:14,667
- take his anger out,
- from being...
- 267
- 00:19:15,583 --> 00:19:18,041
- ...angry at work, and just...
- 268
- 00:19:18,041 --> 00:19:20,041
- [Chelsea sighs]
- 269
- 00:19:23,667 --> 00:19:26,750
- My mother,
- she would drink pretty heavily.
- 270
- 00:19:28,166 --> 00:19:30,041
- My father drank very heavily.
- 271
- 00:19:31,375 --> 00:19:35,375
- And they finally split up
- when I was 13.
- 272
- 00:19:40,041 --> 00:19:42,542
- My father had a new wife.
- 273
- 00:19:42,542 --> 00:19:45,291
- She didn't like the fact
- that I even existed.
- 274
- 00:19:47,166 --> 00:19:51,375
- She saw that, you know,
- I was dating boys and...
- 275
- 00:19:51,375 --> 00:19:54,125
- ...eventually she had me
- removed from the house...
- 276
- 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,208
- ...and I was homeless.
- 277
- 00:19:57,166 --> 00:19:59,250
- [wind whistling]
- 278
- 00:20:01,250 --> 00:20:03,208
- [jet engine roaring]
- 279
- 00:20:03,208 --> 00:20:06,375
- All Americans know that
- the stakes in Iraq are enormous.
- 280
- 00:20:06,375 --> 00:20:08,250
- [Chelsea]
- On television every night,
- 281
- 00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:11,000
- you'd see images
- of the Iraq surge.
- 282
- 00:20:11,875 --> 00:20:13,041
- It was chaos.
- 283
- 00:20:13,041 --> 00:20:16,041
- I am saying we must
- significantly increase...
- 284
- 00:20:16,041 --> 00:20:18,208
- [Chelsea] That realization
- that I was on thin ice
- 285
- 00:20:18,208 --> 00:20:20,166
- and that I didn't know
- who I was,
- 286
- 00:20:20,166 --> 00:20:21,583
- and that I needed meaning.
- 287
- 00:20:21,583 --> 00:20:25,333
- I understand the consequence
- of committing people into war.
- 288
- 00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:30,166
- [Chelsea]
- So, I enlisted in the Army.
- 289
- 00:20:35,083 --> 00:20:37,166
- I did it kind of on a whim.
- 290
- 00:20:39,291 --> 00:20:42,583
- They needed people,
- I signed the paperwork.
- 291
- 00:20:42,583 --> 00:20:45,166
- And a few days later,
- I was in basic training.
- 292
- 00:20:52,959 --> 00:20:54,959
- [engine revving]
- 293
- 00:20:57,291 --> 00:20:59,667
- Oh, shit!
- 294
- 00:20:59,667 --> 00:21:01,542
- Where the fuck
- did you come from?
- 295
- 00:21:05,125 --> 00:21:06,333
- Shit.
- 296
- 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,959
- [game sound effects continue]
- 297
- 00:21:12,542 --> 00:21:14,458
- [wind chimes tinkling]
- 298
- 00:21:22,792 --> 00:21:24,000
- Yep.
- 299
- 00:21:26,834 --> 00:21:28,333
- What's up?
- 300
- 00:21:32,875 --> 00:21:34,834
- [corn chips crunching]
- 301
- 00:21:35,542 --> 00:21:36,875
- [chuckles]
- 302
- 00:21:36,875 --> 00:21:39,542
- Lisa just says, "Great photo."
- 303
- 00:21:41,333 --> 00:21:44,000
- You know,
- I'm just making sure...
- 304
- 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,750
- Disconcerting amount
- of boobage there.
- 305
- 00:21:46,750 --> 00:21:50,542
- Like, my eye is drawn to it,
- so I'm just, like...
- 306
- 00:21:51,333 --> 00:21:53,250
- ...super aware of the fact
- 307
- 00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:55,542
- that dresses expose
- a lot more skin
- 308
- 00:21:55,542 --> 00:21:57,417
- and it's uh...
- 309
- 00:22:00,583 --> 00:22:03,166
- I don't know if my body
- movements are trained yet
- 310
- 00:22:03,166 --> 00:22:06,041
- for this kind of thing.
- 311
- 00:22:06,041 --> 00:22:08,500
- You're moving around a lot
- and you're not used to it.
- 312
- 00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:11,166
- There's always the possibility
- of, "Oop, there you go."
- 313
- 00:22:11,166 --> 00:22:12,583
- The whole world could see.
- 314
- 00:22:14,041 --> 00:22:16,542
- And I had that in prison, too.
- 315
- 00:22:16,542 --> 00:22:19,375
- You know, I was definitely
- scrutinized by...
- 316
- 00:22:19,375 --> 00:22:21,792
- prison staff, you know...
- 317
- 00:22:21,792 --> 00:22:25,208
- inmates, visitors, you know?
- 318
- 00:22:25,208 --> 00:22:28,625
- Because even though I wore
- a loose-fitting uniform,
- 319
- 00:22:28,625 --> 00:22:31,208
- you could tell...
- you know, they could tell.
- 320
- 00:22:31,208 --> 00:22:33,667
- And they...
- I could sense the judgment.
- 321
- 00:22:33,667 --> 00:22:36,041
- Guards would walk in
- on me sometimes
- 322
- 00:22:36,041 --> 00:22:39,458
- while I'm doing... You know,
- while I was changing my shirt
- 323
- 00:22:39,458 --> 00:22:43,375
- or, like, taking my bra off
- or putting it on, or whatever.
- 324
- 00:22:43,375 --> 00:22:46,375
- So, you know, stuff happened
- and people would go...
- 325
- 00:22:46,375 --> 00:22:50,417
- And then there are
- strip searches, so...
- 326
- 00:22:50,417 --> 00:22:53,542
- Their reactions
- could sometimes be...
- 327
- 00:22:54,125 --> 00:22:56,041
- ...you know...
- 328
- 00:22:56,875 --> 00:22:58,750
- ...complicated.
- 329
- 00:22:58,750 --> 00:23:00,417
- Human.
- 330
- 00:23:01,208 --> 00:23:03,291
- [crunching]
- 331
- 00:23:04,041 --> 00:23:06,083
- [muffled music from headphones]
- 332
- 00:23:13,834 --> 00:23:17,417
- [Chelsea] I remember it was
- a really hot and muggy day.
- 333
- 00:23:21,792 --> 00:23:25,041
- The lawyers advised
- against coming out
- 334
- 00:23:25,041 --> 00:23:26,875
- in the middle of
- a court martial.
- 335
- 00:23:26,875 --> 00:23:29,542
- They thought it would be
- misinterpreted
- 336
- 00:23:29,542 --> 00:23:32,250
- as some kind of stunt
- or something.
- 337
- 00:23:36,166 --> 00:23:39,125
- But I came to the conclusion
- that I needed to just
- 338
- 00:23:39,125 --> 00:23:40,792
- come out publicly.
- 339
- 00:23:48,125 --> 00:23:51,041
- [recording] As I transition into
- this next phase of my life,
- 340
- 00:23:51,041 --> 00:23:53,291
- I want everyone
- to know the real me.
- 341
- 00:23:53,291 --> 00:23:55,375
- I am Chelsea Manning.
- I am a female.
- 342
- 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,583
- [man] I'm confused, Bill.
- 343
- 00:23:58,583 --> 00:24:00,875
- I don't care if you call him
- a he or a she.
- 344
- 00:24:00,875 --> 00:24:03,458
- He's a traitor.
- She's a traitor.
- 345
- 00:24:04,291 --> 00:24:06,709
- [Chelsea] You had these rumors.
- 346
- 00:24:06,709 --> 00:24:10,166
- "What does it mean
- that Manning is really a woman
- 347
- 00:24:10,166 --> 00:24:11,709
- or is claiming to be a woman?"
- 348
- 00:24:11,709 --> 00:24:14,959
- "Did she leak the documents
- because she's transgender?"
- 349
- 00:24:28,041 --> 00:24:30,166
- [bleeping]
- 350
- 00:24:31,333 --> 00:24:33,417
- [keyboard clacking]
- 351
- 00:25:07,875 --> 00:25:09,875
- [shower running]
- 352
- 00:25:14,709 --> 00:25:17,208
- [Chelsea]
- This is late January, 2010.
- 353
- 00:25:17,208 --> 00:25:21,208
- I came back from Iraq,
- on leave.
- 354
- 00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:24,417
- And I came to an empty house.
- 355
- 00:25:25,333 --> 00:25:27,709
- It was...surreal.
- 356
- 00:25:36,208 --> 00:25:39,792
- I had this sense
- of disconnect.
- 357
- 00:25:41,375 --> 00:25:43,166
- People were living
- normal lives
- 358
- 00:25:43,166 --> 00:25:45,375
- while we were killing
- or being killed.
- 359
- 00:25:45,375 --> 00:25:47,500
- [man] Thank you
- for calling the New York Times.
- 360
- 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:49,375
- [woman] ..for calling
- the Washington Post.
- 361
- 00:25:49,375 --> 00:25:51,250
- [Chelsea] News outlets,
- they didn't care.
- 362
- 00:25:51,250 --> 00:25:53,959
- - It wasn't newsworthy to them.
- - [mixed voices]
- 363
- 00:25:56,625 --> 00:25:58,333
- [Chelsea]
- The notion of the Iraq War
- 364
- 00:25:58,333 --> 00:26:00,000
- has left the consciousness.
- 365
- 00:26:04,125 --> 00:26:07,583
- I'm trying to do
- something different.
- 366
- 00:26:10,750 --> 00:26:12,625
- [keyboard clacking]
- 367
- 00:26:17,917 --> 00:26:21,083
- I have all these documents
- and I have the data
- 368
- 00:26:21,083 --> 00:26:23,458
- and I need to do
- something with it.
- 369
- 00:26:31,750 --> 00:26:34,000
- [bleeping]
- 370
- 00:26:47,458 --> 00:26:49,625
- [rapid gunfire]
- 371
- 00:26:54,458 --> 00:26:56,291
- [Assange]
- We have no reason to doubt
- 372
- 00:26:56,291 --> 00:26:58,709
- the reliability
- of these documents.
- 373
- 00:26:58,709 --> 00:27:02,041
- It is up to a court to decide...
- 374
- 00:27:02,041 --> 00:27:05,792
- ...clearly, whether something
- is, in the end, a crime.
- 375
- 00:27:05,792 --> 00:27:08,125
- That said, prima facie,
- 376
- 00:27:08,125 --> 00:27:10,125
- there does appear to be
- 377
- 00:27:10,125 --> 00:27:12,333
- evidence of war crimes
- in this material.
- 378
- 00:27:12,333 --> 00:27:14,583
- [radio signal crackling]
- 379
- 00:27:25,583 --> 00:27:28,000
- [Military radio]
- We also have one individual,
- 380
- 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,917
- uh...appears to be wounded,
- trying to crawl away.
- 381
- 00:27:40,166 --> 00:27:41,667
- Come on, buddy.
- 382
- 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,000
- All you gotta do
- is pick up a weapon.
- 383
- 00:27:53,542 --> 00:27:55,208
- They're taking him!
- 384
- 00:27:56,291 --> 00:27:58,458
- Bushmaster, Crazy Horse 1-8.
- 385
- 00:27:59,208 --> 00:28:01,208
- Come on, let us shoot.
- 386
- 00:28:01,208 --> 00:28:03,333
- This is Bushmaster 7.
- Go ahead.
- 387
- 00:28:03,333 --> 00:28:06,375
- Roger, we have a black SUV,
- uh, Bongo truck
- 388
- 00:28:06,375 --> 00:28:07,750
- picking up the bodies.
- 389
- 00:28:07,750 --> 00:28:09,875
- Request permission
- to engage.
- 390
- 00:28:11,417 --> 00:28:13,375
- Bushmaster 7. Roger.
- 391
- 00:28:13,375 --> 00:28:15,709
- This is Bushmaster 7.
- Roger. Engage.
- 392
- 00:28:15,709 --> 00:28:18,208
- 1-8. Okay. Clear.
- 393
- 00:28:18,208 --> 00:28:20,542
- - Come on.
- - [rapid gunfire]
- 394
- 00:28:21,625 --> 00:28:23,959
- - Clear.
- - [rapid gunfire]
- 395
- 00:28:25,291 --> 00:28:27,458
- - Clear.
- - We're engaging.
- 396
- 00:28:27,458 --> 00:28:29,583
- [rapid gunfire]
- 397
- 00:28:30,458 --> 00:28:32,417
- - Come around. Clear.
- - Roger.
- 398
- 00:28:58,083 --> 00:29:00,083
- [bleeping]
- 399
- 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,750
- [woman] Hacker Adrian Lamo,
- who turned him in,
- 400
- 00:29:11,750 --> 00:29:14,291
- says that he contacted
- the Army
- 401
- 00:29:14,291 --> 00:29:17,625
- after a series of very intense
- email exchanges
- 402
- 00:29:17,625 --> 00:29:19,959
- with the Army specialist
- in late May.
- 403
- 00:29:21,375 --> 00:29:25,250
- Adrian Lamo claims
- that Manning was unhappy
- 404
- 00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:27,375
- with some policies
- in the military.
- 405
- 00:29:27,375 --> 00:29:29,875
- He said that there was
- an ideology problem,
- 406
- 00:29:29,875 --> 00:29:31,333
- that he had leaked
- other information
- 407
- 00:29:31,333 --> 00:29:33,375
- to the website WikiLeaks.
- 408
- 00:29:35,125 --> 00:29:36,959
- [troops chanting]
- 409
- 00:29:41,333 --> 00:29:44,291
- Now, among the charges,
- of course, the most serious one
- 410
- 00:29:44,291 --> 00:29:47,667
- for Private Bradley Manning,
- that of aiding the enemy.
- 411
- 00:29:47,667 --> 00:29:49,625
- In a way,
- it's the sheer scale of it
- 412
- 00:29:49,625 --> 00:29:50,792
- that's hurt America's image.
- 413
- 00:29:50,792 --> 00:29:53,792
- That a vast volume
- of sensitive documents
- 414
- 00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:56,625
- was so easily available
- to a private soldier
- 415
- 00:29:56,625 --> 00:29:58,000
- with some hacking skills.
- 416
- 00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:03,500
- The United States Of America
- is on trial today.
- 417
- 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:04,750
- [all] Let him go!
- 418
- 00:30:04,750 --> 00:30:06,750
- Manning stood up
- as an American soldier,
- 419
- 00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:08,709
- put himself in harm's way,
- 420
- 00:30:08,709 --> 00:30:10,750
- and he should be free.
- 421
- 00:30:10,750 --> 00:30:12,500
- [cheering and applause]
- 422
- 00:30:24,667 --> 00:30:26,583
- [keyboard clacking softly]
- 423
- 00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:32,583
- [woman]
- 424
- 00:30:35,333 --> 00:30:36,709
- [man] No, ma'am.
- 425
- 00:30:42,959 --> 00:30:45,083
- [woman]
- 426
- 00:31:01,583 --> 00:31:03,709
- [Manning]
- 427
- 00:31:49,125 --> 00:31:51,625
- [interviewer] You've been
- invisible for so long...
- 428
- 00:31:51,625 --> 00:31:54,291
- [Chelsea] Yeah.
- - ...people have already...
- 429
- 00:31:54,291 --> 00:31:56,709
- formed their own opinions
- of who you are.
- 430
- 00:31:57,834 --> 00:32:01,583
- [Chelsea] I feel pressure
- to correct that and to, like,
- 431
- 00:32:01,583 --> 00:32:03,458
- clear that up.
- 432
- 00:32:06,792 --> 00:32:09,000
- I was an unknown before.
- 433
- 00:32:12,166 --> 00:32:13,458
- [birdsong]
- 434
- 00:32:19,375 --> 00:32:21,375
- It's a little bit
- nerve-racking.
- 435
- 00:32:25,834 --> 00:32:27,959
- I'm not... I'm not ashamed
- of anything.
- 436
- 00:32:27,959 --> 00:32:29,500
- I'm not ashamed
- of being trans.
- 437
- 00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:30,959
- I'm not ashamed
- of what happened.
- 438
- 00:32:30,959 --> 00:32:33,709
- Everything happened
- and, like...
- 439
- 00:32:33,709 --> 00:32:35,333
- I'm okay with that.
- 440
- 00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,333
- Yeah? And...
- 441
- 00:32:41,417 --> 00:32:44,417
- The main thing that I had
- to do was just let go...
- 442
- 00:32:44,417 --> 00:32:46,834
- of other people's expectations.
- 443
- 00:32:47,750 --> 00:32:50,333
- And that was tough.
- 444
- 00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:53,000
- It was one of the hardest things
- I've ever had to do
- 445
- 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,917
- because I had built my life
- 446
- 00:32:54,917 --> 00:32:57,500
- around other people's
- expectations.
- 447
- 00:32:58,792 --> 00:33:01,542
- And I'm not gonna
- fucking do that any more.
- 448
- 00:33:05,834 --> 00:33:08,000
- [muffled speech]
- 449
- 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,583
- [Nancy] It does feel a little
- bit like a calm before a storm.
- 450
- 00:33:15,667 --> 00:33:18,166
- We know how fragile she is.
- 451
- 00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:25,083
- What I worry about
- is that she'll be a big name
- 452
- 00:33:25,083 --> 00:33:28,875
- and there'll be all this press
- that'll happen,
- 453
- 00:33:28,875 --> 00:33:31,542
- and then all of a sudden,
- it'll be over
- 454
- 00:33:31,542 --> 00:33:35,291
- and she'll just be
- out there on her own.
- 455
- 00:33:37,583 --> 00:33:39,667
- [Chelsea] We make these
- in the wood shop,
- 456
- 00:33:39,667 --> 00:33:41,792
- but we don't paint ours.
- 457
- 00:33:41,792 --> 00:33:43,083
- We put oil on ours.
- 458
- 00:33:45,375 --> 00:33:47,792
- We made Adirondack chairs
- at the prison.
- 459
- 00:33:50,750 --> 00:33:52,458
- Yeah.
- 460
- 00:33:54,583 --> 00:33:57,291
- Oh, it'll be like that
- for a few weeks, I'm sure.
- 461
- 00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:07,667
- God, I missed
- trying to do this.
- 462
- 00:34:20,166 --> 00:34:22,250
- ♪ ♪ ♪
- 463
- 00:34:45,125 --> 00:34:47,583
- - [horn tooting]
- - I feel old.
- 464
- 00:34:47,583 --> 00:34:49,792
- - Feel old?
- - Yeah.
- 465
- 00:34:49,792 --> 00:34:52,125
- I lost...
- 466
- 00:34:52,125 --> 00:34:54,375
- I've lost seven years
- of my life already.
- 467
- 00:34:55,166 --> 00:34:56,375
- That's unfair.
- 468
- 00:34:56,375 --> 00:34:59,625
- [Chelsea] Last time
- I walked down these streets,
- 469
- 00:34:59,625 --> 00:35:01,875
- down the streets of this city,
- 470
- 00:35:01,875 --> 00:35:03,959
- Lady Gaga had just become big
- 471
- 00:35:03,959 --> 00:35:06,500
- and the Iraq War
- was still going on.
- 472
- 00:35:10,291 --> 00:35:13,542
- It just feels like I've been
- through a time machine.
- 473
- 00:35:13,542 --> 00:35:14,875
- Time warp.
- 474
- 00:35:23,458 --> 00:35:26,583
- An inmate at a military
- correctional complex...
- 475
- 00:35:26,583 --> 00:35:29,000
- - [beep over phone]
- - ...Fort Leavenworth, Kansas.
- 476
- 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,166
- [raised voices]
- 477
- 00:35:43,250 --> 00:35:45,500
- [Chelsea over computer]
- 478
- 00:35:52,625 --> 00:35:54,333
- Where do you think
- he got that idea?
- 479
- 00:36:09,250 --> 00:36:11,291
- All I was trying to get at
- 480
- 00:36:11,291 --> 00:36:14,625
- was this whole idea
- of personal responsibility
- 481
- 00:36:14,625 --> 00:36:18,208
- that you seem to feel,
- even though, of course,
- 482
- 00:36:18,208 --> 00:36:20,792
- you...didn't have any...
- 483
- 00:36:22,041 --> 00:36:23,750
- ...direct... Absolutely.
- 484
- 00:36:23,750 --> 00:36:25,625
- You didn't pull the trigger.
- 485
- 00:36:49,667 --> 00:36:51,583
- ♪ suspenseful music ♪
- 486
- 00:37:05,625 --> 00:37:07,250
- [fan whirring]
- 487
- 00:37:14,959 --> 00:37:16,750
- [helicopter whirring]
- 488
- 00:37:56,208 --> 00:37:57,375
- [Lisa] It's hard for me now,
- 489
- 00:37:57,375 --> 00:37:59,291
- just because I know you
- and love you
- 490
- 00:37:59,291 --> 00:38:01,375
- and I hate the idea
- of you being in prison.
- 491
- 00:38:01,375 --> 00:38:03,333
- And so, for me,
- it's easy to wonder
- 492
- 00:38:03,333 --> 00:38:04,959
- if it was worth it.
- 493
- 00:38:18,917 --> 00:38:22,417
- [Chelsea] It was just me
- and Lisa against the world.
- 494
- 00:38:23,792 --> 00:38:27,083
- We actually hadn't met
- before I went to prison.
- 495
- 00:38:28,333 --> 00:38:30,625
- But she wrote to me, you know,
- 496
- 00:38:30,625 --> 00:38:33,500
- this really sweet, kind,
- thoughtful letter.
- 497
- 00:38:37,458 --> 00:38:40,834
- [Lisa] It'll be the first time
- I've ever seen her in person.
- 498
- 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,667
- You know,
- helping her get released,
- 499
- 00:38:53,667 --> 00:38:56,166
- it really was
- sort of like my life's work.
- 500
- 00:38:56,166 --> 00:38:57,667
- It's really been...
- 501
- 00:38:58,834 --> 00:39:01,917
- There was a point when we were
- just trying to keep her alive.
- 502
- 00:39:01,917 --> 00:39:03,375
- [laughs]
- 503
- 00:39:10,875 --> 00:39:12,709
- [Lisa] Oh, shit.
- 504
- 00:39:17,041 --> 00:39:19,208
- [lock clunking]
- 505
- 00:39:20,166 --> 00:39:22,041
- Alright?
- 506
- 00:39:28,250 --> 00:39:30,500
- You look fantastic.
- 507
- 00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:32,625
- Thanks. [laughs]
- 508
- 00:39:34,333 --> 00:39:36,875
- - It's one thing that...
- - Your pictures...
- 509
- 00:39:36,875 --> 00:39:39,417
- Your pictures do you justice
- but, I mean, like,
- 510
- 00:39:39,417 --> 00:39:40,834
- in real life, wow.
- 511
- 00:39:43,291 --> 00:39:45,417
- - Look at you.
- - Look at you.
- 512
- 00:39:45,417 --> 00:39:46,583
- [Lisa laughs]
- 513
- 00:39:46,583 --> 00:39:49,291
- - How different do I look?
- - [Lisa laughs]
- 514
- 00:39:49,291 --> 00:39:52,166
- If you do a side-by-side
- comparison,
- 515
- 00:39:52,166 --> 00:39:53,750
- you can tell, right?
- 516
- 00:39:55,041 --> 00:39:57,208
- I don't know
- if I would say that.
- 517
- 00:39:57,208 --> 00:39:58,417
- Okay.
- 518
- 00:39:58,417 --> 00:40:00,458
- You don't look anything
- like your old picture.
- 519
- 00:40:00,458 --> 00:40:01,917
- - No.
- - Not even a little.
- 520
- 00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:05,000
- And your cheekbones and stuff.
- 521
- 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,083
- I mean, it's really...
- It's amazing to me.
- 522
- 00:40:07,083 --> 00:40:09,417
- I didn't realize that...
- 523
- 00:40:09,417 --> 00:40:13,208
- that hormones
- changed that much
- 524
- 00:40:13,208 --> 00:40:16,458
- of, like...bone structure?
- 525
- 00:40:16,458 --> 00:40:19,542
- No, it doesn't change
- the bone structure.
- 526
- 00:40:19,542 --> 00:40:22,125
- Well, it changed...
- It changed something.
- 527
- 00:40:22,125 --> 00:40:24,291
- It changes how the skin, like...
- 528
- 00:40:24,291 --> 00:40:27,917
- how the skin wraps around
- the bones a little bit.
- 529
- 00:40:27,917 --> 00:40:30,166
- Okay.
- It's just so much different.
- 530
- 00:40:30,917 --> 00:40:32,792
- - It's really different.
- - Yeah.
- 531
- 00:40:32,792 --> 00:40:34,333
- Yeah.
- 532
- 00:40:46,166 --> 00:40:48,125
- [Chelsea] Lisa was everything.
- 533
- 00:40:51,959 --> 00:40:53,500
- She's family.
- 534
- 00:41:05,291 --> 00:41:07,333
- [crickets chirping]
- 535
- 00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:12,375
- [clicking and whirring]
- 536
- 00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:16,542
- [Lisa] Chelsea?
- 537
- 00:41:16,542 --> 00:41:18,333
- Hello?
- 538
- 00:41:20,333 --> 00:41:22,417
- [Chelsea]
- 539
- 00:41:29,125 --> 00:41:30,917
- Um...
- 540
- 00:41:42,208 --> 00:41:44,542
- [Chelsea sobs]
- 541
- 00:41:45,375 --> 00:41:47,542
- [Lisa takes a deep breath]
- Shit.
- 542
- 00:41:51,291 --> 00:41:54,291
- Even I didn't realize how much
- you were hurting, Chelsea.
- 543
- 00:41:54,291 --> 00:41:56,291
- Even I didn't know.
- 544
- 00:41:56,291 --> 00:41:58,750
- You... You...
- You weren't really telling me.
- 545
- 00:41:59,709 --> 00:42:02,208
- And... And... I want you to...
- 546
- 00:42:07,542 --> 00:42:09,709
- Very good at...?
- 547
- 00:42:17,625 --> 00:42:19,750
- [muffled explosions]
- 548
- 00:42:22,208 --> 00:42:25,250
- [Vince] You know, she watched
- the firework celebration
- 549
- 00:42:25,250 --> 00:42:27,583
- from her window...
- 550
- 00:42:27,583 --> 00:42:30,083
- and then she took
- the shoestrings
- 551
- 00:42:30,083 --> 00:42:32,625
- that were, you know,
- on her boots,
- 552
- 00:42:32,625 --> 00:42:35,250
- attached them to a vent
- hanging from the ceiling,
- 553
- 00:42:35,250 --> 00:42:39,625
- put a pillowcase
- over her head...
- 554
- 00:42:39,625 --> 00:42:43,250
- bound her hands
- and her legs,
- 555
- 00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:46,417
- and then the next thing
- that she remembers, actually,
- 556
- 00:42:46,417 --> 00:42:48,667
- is being on the floor.
- 557
- 00:42:52,792 --> 00:42:55,000
- She was unconscious...
- 558
- 00:42:56,125 --> 00:42:58,500
- ...and it could have
- very well worked.
- 559
- 00:43:07,542 --> 00:43:10,500
- I wouldn't say
- that I've ever seen Chelsea...
- 560
- 00:43:11,250 --> 00:43:13,125
- ...be happy.
- 561
- 00:43:13,125 --> 00:43:16,583
- I've seen her smile,
- I've seen her laugh.
- 562
- 00:43:16,583 --> 00:43:19,917
- I've seen her crack jokes.
- 563
- 00:43:19,917 --> 00:43:22,291
- But, honestly, I don't know
- that I've ever seen her
- 564
- 00:43:22,291 --> 00:43:24,792
- be happy.
- 565
- 00:43:24,792 --> 00:43:26,667
- ♪ contemplative music ♪
- 566
- 00:43:35,667 --> 00:43:37,792
- [Chelsea]
- 567
- 00:44:00,709 --> 00:44:02,083
- [Chelsea sighs]
- 568
- 00:44:17,834 --> 00:44:19,875
- [Chelsea]
- 569
- 00:44:55,458 --> 00:44:57,750
- When I was a teenager...
- 570
- 00:44:58,750 --> 00:45:00,625
- ...I was completely helpless
- 571
- 00:45:00,625 --> 00:45:03,208
- and I didn't have anybody
- to protect me,
- 572
- 00:45:03,208 --> 00:45:06,458
- and I didn't have anybody
- to tell me that...
- 573
- 00:45:06,458 --> 00:45:08,709
- it's okay for me to be who I am.
- 574
- 00:45:11,792 --> 00:45:15,000
- I've built up
- these defense mechanisms.
- 575
- 00:45:16,583 --> 00:45:19,458
- I have these walls and...
- 576
- 00:45:21,917 --> 00:45:25,750
- ...I had to go through hell
- to get to that point.
- 577
- 00:45:31,583 --> 00:45:33,625
- [siren wailing in distance]
- 578
- 00:45:33,625 --> 00:45:35,250
- I can get through this.
- 579
- 00:45:35,250 --> 00:45:37,583
- This is just a few weeks
- of chaos.
- 580
- 00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:40,834
- [siren wailing]
- 581
- 00:45:43,709 --> 00:45:46,583
- Like I said,
- it'll be a one-hour interview.
- 582
- 00:45:46,583 --> 00:45:49,333
- They'll pick us up here
- at 10:30.
- 583
- 00:45:49,333 --> 00:45:51,375
- - Yeah. We'll bring the outfit.
- - Exactly.
- 584
- 00:45:51,375 --> 00:45:53,792
- Bring the outfit, and there'll
- be hair and make-up.
- 585
- 00:45:53,792 --> 00:45:55,917
- - Cool.
- - Yeah.
- 586
- 00:45:55,917 --> 00:45:58,625
- The main things is...
- 587
- 00:45:58,625 --> 00:46:01,458
- the decision-making process
- 588
- 00:46:01,458 --> 00:46:04,291
- in choosing to
- disclose the documents.
- 589
- 00:46:04,291 --> 00:46:08,250
- So, let's say that
- Juju asks you a question.
- 590
- 00:46:08,250 --> 00:46:10,917
- Um...
- 591
- 00:46:10,917 --> 00:46:12,709
- So, you'd looked at
- the documents,
- 592
- 00:46:12,709 --> 00:46:14,458
- and you made the judgment
- 593
- 00:46:14,458 --> 00:46:17,625
- that they wouldn't harm
- any individuals
- 594
- 00:46:17,625 --> 00:46:19,291
- before you disclosed them?
- 595
- 00:46:19,291 --> 00:46:21,500
- It's not possible to read
- every single line
- 596
- 00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:22,792
- of every single document.
- 597
- 00:46:22,792 --> 00:46:25,291
- But I knew exactly
- what was in these documents.
- 598
- 00:46:25,291 --> 00:46:27,333
- I knew the specific types
- of information
- 599
- 00:46:27,333 --> 00:46:28,667
- in these documents.
- 600
- 00:46:28,667 --> 00:46:32,583
- And I carefully considered it
- and, no, I don't believe...
- 601
- 00:46:32,583 --> 00:46:34,709
- I did not believe
- that any harm would come
- 602
- 00:46:34,709 --> 00:46:36,667
- from these documents.
- 603
- 00:46:38,959 --> 00:46:40,917
- Some of these questions
- are really hard,
- 604
- 00:46:40,917 --> 00:46:42,834
- so practice helps a little bit
- 605
- 00:46:42,834 --> 00:46:45,959
- in being able to navigate.
- 606
- 00:46:45,959 --> 00:46:47,834
- I'm not somebody
- who's going on TV
- 607
- 00:46:47,834 --> 00:46:49,583
- for the sake of being on TV.
- 608
- 00:46:49,583 --> 00:46:53,333
- I... I-I-I...
- There is an underlying...
- 609
- 00:46:55,125 --> 00:46:58,583
- We're in a moment of history,
- where this stuff is important
- 610
- 00:46:58,583 --> 00:47:01,333
- and I don't want to
- screw it up for somebody else.
- 611
- 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,542
- [man]
- One of the things that's nice
- 612
- 00:47:19,542 --> 00:47:22,458
- is, like, when you have
- a historical figure like this,
- 613
- 00:47:22,458 --> 00:47:24,291
- is there is
- something that's um...
- 614
- 00:47:25,542 --> 00:47:28,166
- ...that's quite powerful
- about being so up close.
- 615
- 00:47:28,166 --> 00:47:30,792
- But there's also something
- very powerful about seeing
- 616
- 00:47:30,792 --> 00:47:33,041
- her entire body,
- like, head to toe.
- 617
- 00:47:33,041 --> 00:47:36,875
- She's, like...the entire figure
- is present on this cover.
- 618
- 00:47:37,709 --> 00:47:41,375
- I love how she just totally...
- 619
- 00:47:41,375 --> 00:47:43,375
- uh...seems at ease.
- 620
- 00:47:43,375 --> 00:47:45,041
- I like this one
- because it has...
- 621
- 00:47:45,041 --> 00:47:47,250
- It feels to me enormous power,
- 622
- 00:47:47,250 --> 00:47:48,834
- the kind of power
- that she must have
- 623
- 00:47:48,834 --> 00:47:50,709
- to be the person she is.
- 624
- 00:47:52,542 --> 00:47:55,250
- There's something about
- the atmosphere of that picture,
- 625
- 00:47:55,250 --> 00:47:58,083
- like, there's a sense
- of narrative to this one...
- 626
- 00:47:58,083 --> 00:47:59,625
- Yeah.
- 627
- 00:47:59,625 --> 00:48:01,750
- There's also, like,
- some vague suggestion
- 628
- 00:48:01,750 --> 00:48:04,500
- of, like, an interrogation,
- or something like that,
- 629
- 00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:05,667
- sitting in the chair,
- 630
- 00:48:05,667 --> 00:48:07,500
- in a kind of, like,
- stripped-down room.
- 631
- 00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:09,583
- And for her first time,
- sort of, sitting down
- 632
- 00:48:09,583 --> 00:48:12,291
- and telling her story,
- I think that works.
- 633
- 00:48:13,542 --> 00:48:14,792
- [whirring]
- 634
- 00:48:16,166 --> 00:48:17,750
- [click]
- 635
- 00:48:17,750 --> 00:48:20,083
- Alright. You ready
- to go on the record?
- 636
- 00:48:20,083 --> 00:48:22,917
- About how many weeks
- into the second deployment
- 637
- 00:48:22,917 --> 00:48:25,917
- did you get in touch
- with WikiLeaks?
- 638
- 00:48:25,917 --> 00:48:28,458
- It was all one deployment,
- but after, it was...
- 639
- 00:48:28,458 --> 00:48:31,417
- It was uh...
- It was during leave...
- 640
- 00:48:31,417 --> 00:48:33,750
- It was during
- my leave that I...
- 641
- 00:48:33,750 --> 00:48:35,792
- that I started using the site.
- 642
- 00:48:38,875 --> 00:48:40,875
- It was never about
- being caught.
- 643
- 00:48:40,875 --> 00:48:44,166
- I...wanted
- the information out.
- 644
- 00:48:44,792 --> 00:48:46,792
- Uh...
- 645
- 00:48:46,792 --> 00:48:49,041
- I was eventually going
- to go public.
- 646
- 00:48:49,041 --> 00:48:50,959
- - You were?
- - Yes.
- 647
- 00:48:50,959 --> 00:48:53,125
- I just didn't know
- how to do that.
- 648
- 00:49:04,709 --> 00:49:09,625
- Yes, I was worried that
- being trans would be...
- 649
- 00:49:09,625 --> 00:49:11,542
- would take over
- everything else.
- 650
- 00:49:14,875 --> 00:49:16,625
- Right.
- I was worried it would...
- 651
- 00:49:16,625 --> 00:49:18,500
- It would be used against me.
- 652
- 00:49:21,041 --> 00:49:23,917
- I wanted people to know then
- the things I was seeing.
- 653
- 00:49:31,333 --> 00:49:34,000
- [gentle clatter of train]
- 654
- 00:49:35,959 --> 00:49:38,542
- [Chelsea]
- Life was cheap in Iraq.
- 655
- 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,709
- [military radio chatter]
- 656
- 00:49:44,583 --> 00:49:46,542
- [Chelsea]
- And it made me realize
- 657
- 00:49:46,542 --> 00:49:50,041
- that... how precious
- life actually is.
- 658
- 00:49:52,792 --> 00:49:55,166
- How precious
- everyone's life is.
- 659
- 00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:57,667
- ♪ tense music ♪
- 660
- 00:50:07,917 --> 00:50:10,041
- ♪ ♪ ♪
- 661
- 00:50:24,166 --> 00:50:26,291
- [keyboard clacking]
- 662
- 00:50:54,667 --> 00:50:56,917
- [soldier 1]
- 663
- 00:50:56,917 --> 00:50:58,125
- [soldier 2] That's right.
- 664
- 00:50:59,667 --> 00:51:00,917
- [soldier 1]
- 665
- 00:51:05,750 --> 00:51:08,000
- [low chatter]
- 666
- 00:51:15,417 --> 00:51:19,709
- [man] This is a war
- that resulted in the deaths
- 667
- 00:51:19,709 --> 00:51:22,959
- of hundreds of thousands
- of Iraqis,
- 668
- 00:51:22,959 --> 00:51:26,125
- four and a half thousand
- American soldiers...
- 669
- 00:51:34,542 --> 00:51:39,417
- It was also a war
- that we sped into
- 670
- 00:51:39,417 --> 00:51:43,166
- in no small part because of
- government secrecy.
- 671
- 00:51:44,125 --> 00:51:46,250
- How can a nation function
- 672
- 00:51:46,250 --> 00:51:48,208
- if we don't know
- what we've done?
- 673
- 00:51:59,750 --> 00:52:01,625
- [explosions]
- 674
- 00:52:19,458 --> 00:52:22,000
- [explosions]
- 675
- 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,667
- [man]
- And the finale of this war,
- 676
- 00:52:24,667 --> 00:52:28,375
- that started under cover
- of secrecy and lies,
- 677
- 00:52:28,375 --> 00:52:32,166
- ends with the prosecution
- and court martial
- 678
- 00:52:32,166 --> 00:52:34,875
- of someone
- who got the truth out.
- 679
- 00:52:36,166 --> 00:52:38,250
- [chatter in background]
- 680
- 00:52:43,667 --> 00:52:46,208
- [lively chatter
- and traffic noise]
- 681
- 00:52:51,125 --> 00:52:52,709
- [helicopter whirring]
- 682
- 00:52:54,125 --> 00:52:56,291
- [horns tooting and blaring]
- 683
- 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,083
- [siren wailing]
- 684
- 00:53:27,834 --> 00:53:29,709
- [waves splashing]
- 685
- 00:53:30,709 --> 00:53:32,667
- [gulls squawking]
- 686
- 00:53:33,917 --> 00:53:35,083
- [Chelsea]
- 687
- 00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:38,417
- [clock ticking]
- 688
- 00:53:59,750 --> 00:54:01,250
- Mm.
- 689
- 00:54:02,250 --> 00:54:04,333
- [she chuckles]
- 690
- 00:54:06,375 --> 00:54:08,500
- [she laughs]
- 691
- 00:54:12,709 --> 00:54:13,583
- He was good.
- 692
- 00:54:14,792 --> 00:54:16,375
- Oh...
- 693
- 00:54:16,375 --> 00:54:18,792
- [whispers]
- So sorry, sweetheart. Um...
- 694
- 00:54:18,792 --> 00:54:21,792
- Ch-Ch-Chelsea.
- I'm getting used to it now.
- 695
- 00:54:22,667 --> 00:54:24,291
- Slowly.
- 696
- 00:54:25,041 --> 00:54:26,792
- It's tough. Tough.
- 697
- 00:54:30,250 --> 00:54:32,000
- He was always my baby.
- 698
- 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,834
- He was always my...
- 699
- 00:54:36,667 --> 00:54:38,458
- ...Bradley. Hm.
- 700
- 00:54:44,083 --> 00:54:46,625
- He had the box room,
- where he slept in.
- 701
- 00:54:47,417 --> 00:54:49,792
- And he had
- how many computers?
- 702
- 00:54:50,750 --> 00:54:53,125
- I think it was...
- one, two, three...
- 703
- 00:54:56,250 --> 00:54:58,375
- Three computers set up.
- 704
- 00:54:59,166 --> 00:55:02,583
- And he had this desk chair,
- 705
- 00:55:02,583 --> 00:55:04,166
- on rollers.
- 706
- 00:55:04,166 --> 00:55:06,083
- [she mimics typing and rolling]
- 707
- 00:55:08,041 --> 00:55:09,417
- [interviewer chuckles]
- 708
- 00:55:09,417 --> 00:55:11,208
- Ah.
- 709
- 00:55:11,208 --> 00:55:14,000
- And... Oh! And it was locked.
- 710
- 00:55:14,792 --> 00:55:16,542
- There was a bolt.
- 711
- 00:55:16,542 --> 00:55:19,834
- I used to say, "That's one room
- I don't have to clean."
- 712
- 00:55:20,333 --> 00:55:22,000
- [laughs]
- 713
- 00:55:35,959 --> 00:55:37,291
- I can't remember.
- 714
- 00:55:37,291 --> 00:55:39,125
- Quant... Quant-something.
- 715
- 00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:43,375
- That's it.
- 716
- 00:55:43,375 --> 00:55:46,125
- It was a cinder block,
- cinder block,
- 717
- 00:55:46,125 --> 00:55:48,375
- and just two chairs.
- 718
- 00:55:52,875 --> 00:55:56,250
- I-I didn't say a lot because...
- 719
- 00:55:57,375 --> 00:55:59,166
- ...I don't know.
- 720
- 00:55:59,166 --> 00:56:01,125
- He's, like... [gasps]
- 721
- 00:56:04,417 --> 00:56:06,709
- I couldn't touch, couldn't hug.
- 722
- 00:56:08,041 --> 00:56:10,250
- He was, like...
- 723
- 00:56:13,041 --> 00:56:14,125
- Oh.
- 724
- 00:56:14,125 --> 00:56:17,625
- Sorry. But I do love you.
- 725
- 00:56:19,250 --> 00:56:21,208
- And if I could hug you,
- 726
- 00:56:21,208 --> 00:56:24,250
- I'd give you the biggest hug
- you ever had.
- 727
- 00:56:38,125 --> 00:56:39,917
- It's ten o'clock.
- 728
- 00:56:41,208 --> 00:56:43,291
- [water running]
- 729
- 00:56:48,125 --> 00:56:50,083
- [clicking of mouse]
- 730
- 00:56:50,083 --> 00:56:52,000
- Twitter's quite addictive.
- 731
- 00:56:55,792 --> 00:56:59,208
- They're seeing me
- push back from, you know...
- 732
- 00:56:59,208 --> 00:57:03,542
- In a reasonable way
- for the first time.
- 733
- 00:57:05,458 --> 00:57:07,709
- "I don't agree with
- what Chelsea Manning did.
- 734
- 00:57:07,709 --> 00:57:09,834
- There are appropriate channels
- to go through.
- 735
- 00:57:09,834 --> 00:57:11,959
- Our national security
- is important."
- 736
- 00:57:11,959 --> 00:57:15,458
- And I just...
- I responded to that
- 737
- 00:57:15,458 --> 00:57:19,000
- and said, "Ever actually
- try those channels?"
- 738
- 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,959
- And that's it.
- 739
- 00:57:20,959 --> 00:57:23,834
- And, like, people
- went nuts after that.
- 740
- 00:57:23,834 --> 00:57:25,041
- So...
- 741
- 00:57:26,375 --> 00:57:28,625
- [Savages] "She Will"
- 742
- 00:58:27,208 --> 00:58:28,542
- ♪ Oh... ♪
- 743
- 00:58:28,542 --> 00:58:31,542
- ♪ You've got to get used to it♪
- 744
- 00:58:31,542 --> 00:58:33,875
- ♪ And give your heart
- a little kick ♪
- 745
- 00:58:33,875 --> 00:58:36,959
- ♪ She will, she will,
- she will, she will ♪
- 746
- 00:58:36,959 --> 00:58:40,125
- ♪ She will, she will,
- she will, she will... ♪
- 747
- 00:58:44,375 --> 00:58:47,083
- [Chelsea] I was trans before
- I started taking hormones.
- 748
- 00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:52,500
- I'm the same person as I was.
- 749
- 00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:55,458
- I just am presenting
- myself differently.
- 750
- 00:59:03,458 --> 00:59:05,208
- [Vince] People don't understand
- 751
- 00:59:05,208 --> 00:59:08,291
- how young the people are
- who are in the military.
- 752
- 00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:12,917
- I'm uniquely situated
- to have been the person
- 753
- 00:59:12,917 --> 00:59:16,375
- that probably interacted with
- Chelsea face to face the most
- 754
- 00:59:16,375 --> 00:59:19,333
- over the last several years
- now.
- 755
- 00:59:19,333 --> 00:59:22,375
- However many years it's been.
- I don't even know.
- 756
- 00:59:22,375 --> 00:59:26,083
- And I have my own sense of
- who she is as a person, right?
- 757
- 00:59:26,083 --> 00:59:28,417
- It doesn't always
- line up and match
- 758
- 00:59:28,417 --> 00:59:30,750
- what the public perception
- of Chelsea is.
- 759
- 00:59:34,667 --> 00:59:38,041
- And I think that she's aware
- 760
- 00:59:38,041 --> 00:59:42,250
- of that journey ahead of her.
- 761
- 00:59:42,250 --> 00:59:46,333
- And I think she also
- recognizes that she can't...
- 762
- 00:59:46,333 --> 00:59:47,500
- You can't really dictate...
- 763
- 00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:49,291
- She can't dictate for herself
- 764
- 00:59:49,291 --> 00:59:52,375
- which path that's gonna go,
- right?
- 765
- 00:59:52,375 --> 00:59:55,000
- Because she's been prevented
- for the last ten years
- 766
- 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,375
- of having the kinds of
- experiences that we had
- 767
- 00:59:57,375 --> 00:59:59,583
- that helped shape us.
- 768
- 00:59:59,583 --> 01:00:03,000
- And then that becomes
- very overwhelming for people.
- 769
- 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,333
- But particularly
- for somebody like Chelsea,
- 770
- 01:00:05,333 --> 01:00:07,458
- who's still trying to be her.
- 771
- 01:00:07,458 --> 01:00:10,041
- You know, she's still
- trying to be who she is.
- 772
- 01:00:10,959 --> 01:00:14,375
- So as she's finally able
- to be who she is,
- 773
- 01:00:14,375 --> 01:00:17,542
- I just can't wait to see
- what she turns into.
- 774
- 01:00:19,375 --> 01:00:21,625
- [quavering] Ahh...
- 775
- 01:00:24,750 --> 01:00:26,625
- [quavering] Mm...
- 776
- 01:00:32,375 --> 01:00:34,583
- [growing applause]
- 777
- 01:00:37,083 --> 01:00:38,750
- [cheering and whistling]
- 778
- 01:00:42,333 --> 01:00:44,583
- You are now an icon
- to many people
- 779
- 01:00:44,583 --> 01:00:47,291
- who believe that the government
- needs to be more transparent,
- 780
- 01:00:47,291 --> 01:00:49,083
- not just in war but in general.
- 781
- 01:00:49,083 --> 01:00:50,625
- If someone,
- 782
- 01:00:50,625 --> 01:00:52,083
- let's say a young programmer,
- 783
- 01:00:52,083 --> 01:00:53,667
- comes to you
- 784
- 01:00:53,667 --> 01:00:56,750
- who wants to work for more
- government transparency,
- 785
- 01:00:56,750 --> 01:00:59,542
- what would you suggest?
- 786
- 01:00:59,542 --> 01:01:01,792
- Make your own decisions,
- make your own choices,
- 787
- 01:01:01,792 --> 01:01:03,834
- make your own judgment...
- 788
- 01:01:03,834 --> 01:01:06,500
- Are there specific things
- that they could do
- 789
- 01:01:06,500 --> 01:01:08,166
- to further
- that particular cause?
- 790
- 01:01:08,166 --> 01:01:10,834
- No. I mean,
- you have to pay attention.
- 791
- 01:01:10,834 --> 01:01:12,291
- You have to pay attention.
- 792
- 01:01:12,291 --> 01:01:16,542
- How did the turmoil
- that you were going through
- 793
- 01:01:16,542 --> 01:01:20,417
- in terms of thinking
- about transitioning...
- 794
- 01:01:20,417 --> 01:01:23,709
- How did that affect
- your disclosures later on...
- 795
- 01:01:23,709 --> 01:01:25,709
- - I don't...
- - ...as your attorney says?
- 796
- 01:01:25,709 --> 01:01:27,083
- I don't think it did. You know,
- 797
- 01:01:27,083 --> 01:01:30,375
- it was this endless, straight,
- like, you know, like...
- 798
- 01:01:30,375 --> 01:01:32,125
- They're not connected.
- 799
- 01:01:32,125 --> 01:01:33,583
- I don't think they're connected.
- 800
- 01:01:33,583 --> 01:01:35,792
- I see the, like, endless stream
- 801
- 01:01:35,792 --> 01:01:37,875
- of violence and death
- and destruction
- 802
- 01:01:37,875 --> 01:01:40,083
- as being the primary motivator.
- 803
- 01:01:40,083 --> 01:01:41,583
- Okay.
- 804
- 01:01:41,583 --> 01:01:45,291
- Now, WikiLeaks, it's gone
- a whole road since back then.
- 805
- 01:01:45,291 --> 01:01:47,542
- What did you know
- about WikiLeaks in 2010?
- 806
- 01:01:47,542 --> 01:01:49,750
- What did you...
- It was much more obscure.
- 807
- 01:01:49,750 --> 01:01:51,709
- Well, I mean...
- Yeah, it was, it was.
- 808
- 01:01:51,709 --> 01:01:53,750
- I wasn't really a part of,
- like, you know...
- 809
- 01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:55,792
- It was, like... I was, like...
- 810
- 01:01:55,792 --> 01:01:57,917
- I was running out of time
- and decisions
- 811
- 01:01:57,917 --> 01:01:59,625
- and they just had
- the tools available.
- 812
- 01:01:59,625 --> 01:02:01,458
- They knew how to use them.
- That was it.
- 813
- 01:02:01,458 --> 01:02:02,917
- That's all it boiled own to.
- 814
- 01:02:02,917 --> 01:02:04,667
- It's like, I...
- I was running out of time.
- 815
- 01:02:04,667 --> 01:02:07,250
- - Because you had to go to Iraq.
- - I had to go back to Iraq.
- 816
- 01:02:07,250 --> 01:02:08,625
- And, you know...
- 817
- 01:02:08,625 --> 01:02:12,375
- There was no way I was gonna
- be able to upload it from Iraq.
- 818
- 01:02:12,375 --> 01:02:15,500
- You know, it's a policy of
- newspapers to redact names
- 819
- 01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:18,625
- to protect the identities of
- people who might be in danger
- 820
- 01:02:18,625 --> 01:02:21,750
- and the head of WikiLeaks,
- Julian Assange,
- 821
- 01:02:21,750 --> 01:02:24,375
- believes in much more
- complete transparency
- 822
- 01:02:24,375 --> 01:02:27,333
- and he believes that it would
- contaminate the evidence,
- 823
- 01:02:27,333 --> 01:02:28,583
- to use his phrase,
- 824
- 01:02:28,583 --> 01:02:30,250
- if you did redact those names.
- 825
- 01:02:30,250 --> 01:02:33,083
- And so he did not,
- in some cases,
- 826
- 01:02:33,083 --> 01:02:37,500
- which potentially
- endangered informants,
- 827
- 01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:39,208
- particularly in Afghanistan.
- 828
- 01:02:39,208 --> 01:02:41,250
- We strongly dispute those facts.
- 829
- 01:02:41,250 --> 01:02:42,375
- Okay.
- 830
- 01:02:42,375 --> 01:02:44,083
- We strongly dispute those facts.
- 831
- 01:02:44,083 --> 01:02:47,583
- The government was not able
- to show any indication of that.
- 832
- 01:02:47,583 --> 01:02:49,625
- - Yes, yes.
- - Zero.
- 833
- 01:02:49,625 --> 01:02:52,959
- Did you not fear sending out
- these things
- 834
- 01:02:52,959 --> 01:02:54,750
- that you didn't know
- what was in them?
- 835
- 01:02:54,750 --> 01:02:57,166
- I did know. I worked
- with this information every day.
- 836
- 01:02:57,166 --> 01:02:59,208
- Did you not fear
- that it might hurt someone
- 837
- 01:02:59,208 --> 01:03:01,458
- - if you didn't know exactly...
- - Absolutely not.
- 838
- 01:03:01,458 --> 01:03:02,709
- It was historical data.
- 839
- 01:03:02,709 --> 01:03:04,500
- There's no sources.
- There's no methods.
- 840
- 01:03:04,500 --> 01:03:07,125
- There's no intelligence
- information in here.
- 841
- 01:03:07,125 --> 01:03:10,667
- It's not there. It's people
- dying and people getting killed
- 842
- 01:03:10,667 --> 01:03:12,500
- and people suffering
- 843
- 01:03:12,500 --> 01:03:14,875
- and on a massive,
- incredible scale.
- 844
- 01:03:16,208 --> 01:03:18,542
- [sighs]
- 845
- 01:03:18,542 --> 01:03:21,667
- As a result... I'm going to
- skip ahead a little bit...
- 846
- 01:03:21,667 --> 01:03:23,041
- It must be a difficult position
- 847
- 01:03:23,041 --> 01:03:26,458
- because you're an important
- public figure for many people
- 848
- 01:03:26,458 --> 01:03:28,083
- and yet I can understand
- 849
- 01:03:28,083 --> 01:03:30,917
- how you want to just get on
- with a new life as well
- 850
- 01:03:30,917 --> 01:03:32,667
- and these things
- keep coming back.
- 851
- 01:03:32,667 --> 01:03:34,667
- How do you deal with that?
- 852
- 01:03:38,417 --> 01:03:39,875
- I don't know.
- 853
- 01:03:41,417 --> 01:03:43,500
- I haven't figured that out yet.
- 854
- 01:03:50,542 --> 01:03:52,750
- [wind whistling]
- 855
- 01:03:56,834 --> 01:03:59,041
- [Chelsea]
- 856
- 01:04:40,542 --> 01:04:42,750
- [interviewer]
- 857
- 01:04:47,959 --> 01:04:50,125
- [Chelsea]
- 858
- 01:04:58,542 --> 01:05:00,500
- [interviewer]
- 859
- 01:05:00,500 --> 01:05:01,750
- [Chelsea]
- 860
- 01:05:29,625 --> 01:05:31,834
- [interviewer]
- 861
- 01:05:34,041 --> 01:05:36,208
- [Chelsea]
- 862
- 01:05:38,917 --> 01:05:41,125
- [interviewer]
- 863
- 01:05:41,792 --> 01:05:43,333
- [Chelsea]
- 864
- 01:05:58,291 --> 01:06:00,875
- How did you survive
- in solitary confinement?
- 865
- 01:06:05,834 --> 01:06:09,500
- I just remember, you know,
- whenever I was in Kuwait,
- 866
- 01:06:09,500 --> 01:06:11,667
- that I died.
- 867
- 01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:15,500
- I was alive but I was dead.
- 868
- 01:06:17,667 --> 01:06:20,583
- And I've been dead ever since.
- 869
- 01:06:20,583 --> 01:06:22,583
- Sort of...
- If that makes any sense.
- 870
- 01:06:25,417 --> 01:06:28,667
- Like, somehow I'm, like, in this
- visceral, like, purgatory
- 871
- 01:06:28,667 --> 01:06:32,709
- between...the two.
- 872
- 01:06:33,500 --> 01:06:35,875
- And that time.
- 873
- 01:06:35,875 --> 01:06:38,041
- And then I wake up for a while.
- 874
- 01:06:40,625 --> 01:06:42,834
- I just want to forget
- it ever happened.
- 875
- 01:06:49,458 --> 01:06:51,166
- I just want to not be reminded
- 876
- 01:06:51,166 --> 01:06:53,083
- that it ever
- happened to me ever.
- 877
- 01:06:55,959 --> 01:06:58,959
- I think that the moments
- that I've enjoyed,
- 878
- 01:06:59,917 --> 01:07:01,417
- you know, in the years since,
- 879
- 01:07:01,417 --> 01:07:04,208
- have been whenever
- I've completely forgotten.
- 880
- 01:07:10,542 --> 01:07:12,625
- ♪ ♪ ♪
- 881
- 01:07:19,125 --> 01:07:22,041
- People want me to relive it
- and I can't.
- 882
- 01:07:28,375 --> 01:07:31,834
- I'm just trying
- to find some closure
- 883
- 01:07:31,834 --> 01:07:33,583
- and some peace to all this.
- 884
- 01:07:36,125 --> 01:07:39,041
- I live in a state of,
- you know, uncertainty
- 885
- 01:07:39,041 --> 01:07:41,709
- and I feel like
- every step I take
- 886
- 01:07:41,709 --> 01:07:44,583
- is a step on thin ice.
- 887
- 01:07:44,583 --> 01:07:46,208
- I mean, I'm just, you know,
- 888
- 01:07:46,208 --> 01:07:49,250
- I'm just another one of us
- that's scared.
- 889
- 01:07:49,250 --> 01:07:52,083
- You know. I just...
- I find myself backed in a corner
- 890
- 01:07:52,083 --> 01:07:53,750
- and there's no other way to go
- 891
- 01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:55,583
- other than to fight back
- 892
- 01:07:55,583 --> 01:07:59,125
- and I'm certainly not going to
- wait for somebody to save me.
- 893
- 01:08:01,667 --> 01:08:03,750
- Or save any of us.
- 894
- 01:08:05,291 --> 01:08:08,250
- I'm certainly not going to wait
- for anybody to save any of us
- 895
- 01:08:08,250 --> 01:08:12,458
- because, chances are...
- nobody's coming.
- 896
- 01:08:14,792 --> 01:08:16,125
- [crowd noise]
- 897
- 01:08:16,125 --> 01:08:18,291
- [Donald Trump] Go ahead.
- 898
- 01:08:26,125 --> 01:08:30,166
- These are not the people
- that made our country great.
- 899
- 01:08:30,166 --> 01:08:32,208
- But we're gonna
- make it great again.
- 900
- 01:08:34,041 --> 01:08:37,291
- These are the people that
- are destroying our country.
- 901
- 01:08:39,792 --> 01:08:41,083
- [woman] The Trump
- administration's ban
- 902
- 01:08:41,083 --> 01:08:42,500
- on military service
- 903
- 01:08:42,500 --> 01:08:43,792
- by transgender people
- 904
- 01:08:43,792 --> 01:08:45,417
- was announced via Tweet.
- 905
- 01:08:45,417 --> 01:08:47,750
- What happens to transgender
- service members now?
- 906
- 01:08:47,750 --> 01:08:50,041
- Are they immediately
- thrown out of the military?
- 907
- 01:09:14,166 --> 01:09:16,333
- [ringing tone]
- 908
- 01:09:19,208 --> 01:09:21,417
- [phone ringing]
- 909
- 01:09:24,792 --> 01:09:27,000
- - Hey.
- - [Chelsea replies]
- 910
- 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:28,917
- - How are ya?
- - I'm doing okay.
- 911
- 01:09:28,917 --> 01:09:32,917
- I just wanted to check in 'cause
- I know I've been super busy.
- 912
- 01:09:32,917 --> 01:09:35,375
- Yeah.
- It's nice to hear your voice.
- 913
- 01:09:35,375 --> 01:09:37,208
- [Chelsea] It's like
- everything's just falling apart
- 914
- 01:09:37,208 --> 01:09:39,250
- and getting worse
- and becoming a disaster again.
- 915
- 01:09:39,250 --> 01:09:41,500
- - Mm-hm.
- - My safe is coming.
- 916
- 01:09:41,500 --> 01:09:45,041
- And my surveillance cameras
- are... I have them installed.
- 917
- 01:09:45,041 --> 01:09:46,709
- I just need to wire them.
- 918
- 01:09:46,709 --> 01:09:48,583
- Good.
- You do what needs to be done.
- 919
- 01:09:48,583 --> 01:09:49,709
- Yeah.
- 920
- 01:09:51,166 --> 01:09:52,875
- As soon as I started to see...
- 921
- 01:09:52,875 --> 01:09:54,250
- As soon as
- Charlottesville happened,
- 922
- 01:09:54,250 --> 01:09:56,542
- I was, like, I need security.
- 923
- 01:10:03,041 --> 01:10:06,125
- [Chelsea] For the last
- six months, the alt-right,
- 924
- 01:10:06,125 --> 01:10:08,291
- they've been, like, mobilized,
- 925
- 01:10:08,291 --> 01:10:13,333
- and emboldened by the fact that,
- 926
- 01:10:13,333 --> 01:10:15,250
- you know,
- they have an administration
- 927
- 01:10:15,250 --> 01:10:17,458
- that appears to be
- favorable to them.
- 928
- 01:10:25,333 --> 01:10:28,166
- Can you explain
- what we're doing?
- 929
- 01:10:31,875 --> 01:10:34,166
- [Chelsea] For somebody
- like me, like a trans person,
- 930
- 01:10:34,166 --> 01:10:36,875
- or somebody who's black
- or brown in this country,
- 931
- 01:10:36,875 --> 01:10:40,542
- or Jewish in this country...
- this is an existential threat.
- 932
- 01:10:40,542 --> 01:10:44,792
- You know, today it might not be
- an existential threat.
- 933
- 01:10:44,792 --> 01:10:47,917
- But five years from now, it's
- an absolute existential threat.
- 934
- 01:10:53,542 --> 01:10:56,333
- We can be afraid to say
- something sometimes.
- 935
- 01:10:56,333 --> 01:11:00,250
- And I'm not as afraid any more
- as I used to be
- 936
- 01:11:00,250 --> 01:11:02,625
- of saying the thing
- that needs to be said.
- 937
- 01:11:05,041 --> 01:11:06,917
- What are they gonna do?
- 938
- 01:11:06,917 --> 01:11:09,125
- Throw me in prison?
- 939
- 01:11:09,917 --> 01:11:11,959
- Or kill me?
- 940
- 01:11:11,959 --> 01:11:14,125
- They're gonna do that anyway.
- 941
- 01:11:14,125 --> 01:11:17,417
- If we let them, you know...
- 942
- 01:11:17,417 --> 01:11:21,542
- If we let them take
- the reins of our society.
- 943
- 01:11:21,542 --> 01:11:24,041
- You know, like,
- they're gonna do that anyway.
- 944
- 01:11:24,875 --> 01:11:28,125
- So I'd rather go down fighting.
- 945
- 01:11:30,291 --> 01:11:32,291
- ♪ dramatic instrumental music ♪
- 946
- 01:11:37,083 --> 01:11:39,041
- [cheering]
- 947
- 01:11:40,917 --> 01:11:42,166
- Here I am.
- 948
- 01:11:42,166 --> 01:11:44,333
- - Chelsea!
- - Whoo!
- 949
- 01:11:44,333 --> 01:11:46,792
- [cheering]
- 950
- 01:11:46,792 --> 01:11:49,041
- I was told not to come here
- by numerous people.
- 951
- 01:11:49,041 --> 01:11:50,500
- [man] Fuck 'em!
- - Yeah.
- 952
- 01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:53,000
- For so long,
- I wasn't able to even be seen
- 953
- 01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:54,333
- or be out on the streets.
- 954
- 01:11:54,333 --> 01:11:56,250
- I've been in prison
- for seven years.
- 955
- 01:11:56,250 --> 01:11:59,000
- It was being silenced that
- made me so afraid and so...
- 956
- 01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,125
- [man] You're a hero!
- 957
- 01:12:00,125 --> 01:12:02,166
- [whooping and cheering]
- 958
- 01:12:03,500 --> 01:12:06,959
- [Chelsea] When I first got out,
- I did not think I was gonna be
- 959
- 01:12:06,959 --> 01:12:09,166
- jumping straight back
- into activism.
- 960
- 01:12:10,375 --> 01:12:12,166
- I feel embattled.
- 961
- 01:12:14,250 --> 01:12:16,875
- I've seen
- what an occupied country is.
- 962
- 01:12:16,875 --> 01:12:19,917
- And I've seen what
- local suppression looks like.
- 963
- 01:12:20,959 --> 01:12:23,125
- And I'm seeing all of this
- right here
- 964
- 01:12:23,125 --> 01:12:26,875
- in a place
- that I want to call home.
- 965
- 01:12:40,291 --> 01:12:42,458
- - Good? Good?
- - Yes.
- 966
- 01:12:42,458 --> 01:12:44,208
- Good? Good?
- 967
- 01:12:44,208 --> 01:12:46,208
- - Consensus.
- - Consensus.
- 968
- 01:12:46,208 --> 01:12:47,834
- Tweet.
- 969
- 01:12:47,834 --> 01:12:49,041
- ♪ dramatic music ♪
- 970
- 01:12:49,041 --> 01:12:50,875
- [electrical zapping]
- 971
- 01:12:50,875 --> 01:12:52,959
- [shouting]
- 972
- 01:12:52,959 --> 01:12:54,917
- [Chelsea]
- We need to stop expecting
- 973
- 01:12:54,917 --> 01:12:58,125
- that our systems
- will somehow fix themselves.
- 974
- 01:12:58,125 --> 01:13:02,083
- We need to actually take
- the reins of power from them.
- 975
- 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,291
- We need to fix this.
- 976
- 01:13:05,291 --> 01:13:07,417
- [chanting] USA! USA!
- 977
- 01:13:07,417 --> 01:13:09,625
- Damn right we got this.
- 978
- 01:13:12,542 --> 01:13:13,750
- [woman] Whistle-blower
- Chelsea Manning
- 979
- 01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:15,750
- surprised the political world
- this week
- 980
- 01:13:15,750 --> 01:13:18,458
- by announcing she was
- running for the US Senate.
- 981
- 01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:23,208
- Manning is challenging
- Democratic incumbent Ben Cardin
- 982
- 01:13:23,208 --> 01:13:25,208
- in the upcoming June primaries.
- 983
- 01:13:26,083 --> 01:13:28,250
- You are on the air.
- Go ahead, please.
- 984
- 01:13:28,250 --> 01:13:29,417
- [man] My question is,
- so, Chelsea,
- 985
- 01:13:29,417 --> 01:13:31,458
- you had some suicide attempts
- in prison.
- 986
- 01:13:31,458 --> 01:13:33,458
- For someone who's had
- those kind of issues,
- 987
- 01:13:33,458 --> 01:13:35,417
- what makes you the candidate
- 988
- 01:13:35,417 --> 01:13:37,750
- to represent
- the people of Maryland?
- 989
- 01:13:37,750 --> 01:13:39,875
- Are you suggesting
- that someone
- 990
- 01:13:39,875 --> 01:13:41,917
- who has suffered
- from clinical depression
- 991
- 01:13:41,917 --> 01:13:43,792
- is not qualified
- to run for office?
- 992
- 01:13:43,792 --> 01:13:44,834
- No, that's not what
- I'm suggesting.
- 993
- 01:13:44,834 --> 01:13:45,917
- Okay.
- 994
- 01:13:45,917 --> 01:13:48,041
- He's asking, are you
- mentally stable now
- 995
- 01:13:48,041 --> 01:13:51,250
- given all the horrific...?
- I think that's what he's asking.
- 996
- 01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:53,166
- Given discussions
- about the President
- 997
- 01:13:53,166 --> 01:13:55,500
- and his mental stability,
- 998
- 01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:57,375
- I think that
- should be something
- 999
- 01:13:57,375 --> 01:13:59,333
- we ask about all candidates.
- 1000
- 01:13:59,333 --> 01:14:00,917
- I strongly disagree.
- 1001
- 01:14:00,917 --> 01:14:03,291
- You know, we shouldn't be
- stigmatizing anybody
- 1002
- 01:14:03,291 --> 01:14:04,917
- for any mental health issues.
- 1003
- 01:14:04,917 --> 01:14:06,458
- You know. But um...
- 1004
- 01:14:06,458 --> 01:14:10,125
- Like, I'm more than willing
- to admit I'm in therapy.
- 1005
- 01:14:10,125 --> 01:14:12,417
- As a senator, would you release
- confidential information
- 1006
- 01:14:12,417 --> 01:14:14,583
- that was being held
- by Senate panel?
- 1007
- 01:14:14,583 --> 01:14:18,250
- No, but I would certainly move
- to push for as much transparency
- 1008
- 01:14:18,250 --> 01:14:20,709
- in government as possible.
- 1009
- 01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:22,709
- [interviewer] You're challenging
- the Democratic incumbent
- 1010
- 01:14:22,709 --> 01:14:24,166
- in the primary.
- 1011
- 01:14:24,166 --> 01:14:26,542
- Your platform includes
- closing prisons,
- 1012
- 01:14:26,542 --> 01:14:28,917
- free college,
- universal healthcare...
- 1013
- 01:14:29,250 --> 01:14:31,417
- [knocking]
- 1014
- 01:14:33,834 --> 01:14:36,166
- Hi, I'm Chelsea Manning.
- I'm running for US Senate.
- 1015
- 01:14:36,166 --> 01:14:38,333
- And I get asked this a lot
- by reporters, you know.
- 1016
- 01:14:38,333 --> 01:14:40,417
- "Why are you running
- for Senate?"
- 1017
- 01:14:40,417 --> 01:14:43,583
- If you look around and you look
- at everything that's going on,
- 1018
- 01:14:43,583 --> 01:14:45,458
- whether it's
- the immigration debate,
- 1019
- 01:14:45,458 --> 01:14:48,792
- healthcare or police,
- police brutality,
- 1020
- 01:14:48,792 --> 01:14:50,166
- and mass surveillance...
- 1021
- 01:14:50,166 --> 01:14:52,417
- Like, why the hell
- wouldn't I be running?
- 1022
- 01:14:52,417 --> 01:14:54,041
- You know, in this environment,
- 1023
- 01:14:54,041 --> 01:14:57,000
- in this toxic environment
- that we live in,
- 1024
- 01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,709
- where's our say?
- 1025
- 01:15:06,083 --> 01:15:07,625
- We're just trying
- to excite people.
- 1026
- 01:15:07,625 --> 01:15:09,083
- And... And...
- 1027
- 01:15:09,083 --> 01:15:11,041
- Yeah, we know
- it's an uphill battle.
- 1028
- 01:15:11,041 --> 01:15:13,291
- We know...
- 1029
- 01:15:13,291 --> 01:15:16,458
- words like "Cinderella story",
- 1030
- 01:15:16,458 --> 01:15:18,959
- "long shot", "underdog",
- 1031
- 01:15:18,959 --> 01:15:20,917
- words like that
- are going to be applied.
- 1032
- 01:15:22,041 --> 01:15:23,417
- Is it stressful? Oh, yeah.
- 1033
- 01:15:23,417 --> 01:15:25,542
- This is very stressful.
- 1034
- 01:15:25,542 --> 01:15:29,542
- But we also know that
- 1035
- 01:15:29,542 --> 01:15:31,375
- at the end of it all
- 1036
- 01:15:31,375 --> 01:15:34,417
- we're going to be
- so happy that we tried.
- 1037
- 01:15:34,417 --> 01:15:36,625
- Changing the world isn't easy.
- 1038
- 01:15:36,625 --> 01:15:39,291
- It's not. I mean...
- 1039
- 01:15:39,291 --> 01:15:41,458
- Chelsea knows.
- 1040
- 01:15:42,458 --> 01:15:44,542
- ♪ ♪ ♪
- 1041
- 01:16:10,834 --> 01:16:12,917
- [Chelsea] If you're
- an intelligence analyst,
- 1042
- 01:16:12,917 --> 01:16:15,500
- you really have to
- understand your opponent.
- 1043
- 01:16:17,542 --> 01:16:19,750
- And you have to think
- like your opponent.
- 1044
- 01:16:21,417 --> 01:16:24,291
- A certain amount of empathy
- is a requirement
- 1045
- 01:16:24,291 --> 01:16:26,250
- to being effective.
- 1046
- 01:16:33,917 --> 01:16:35,917
- [camera clicking]
- 1047
- 01:16:35,917 --> 01:16:38,417
- Whenever I've protested
- 1048
- 01:16:38,417 --> 01:16:40,834
- against the alt-right,
- 1049
- 01:16:40,834 --> 01:16:43,625
- I realized
- that Cassandra Fairbanks
- 1050
- 01:16:43,625 --> 01:16:45,208
- was there.
- 1051
- 01:16:45,208 --> 01:16:48,125
- She was a supporter
- in my campaign
- 1052
- 01:16:48,125 --> 01:16:50,000
- to get me out of prison.
- 1053
- 01:16:55,291 --> 01:16:57,458
- I decided to use
- that connection
- 1054
- 01:16:57,458 --> 01:17:00,250
- to try to see what information
- we could glean
- 1055
- 01:17:00,250 --> 01:17:03,667
- from that particular
- flavor of the alt-right.
- 1056
- 01:17:06,083 --> 01:17:09,000
- It's called rapport-building
- in intelligence work.
- 1057
- 01:17:11,458 --> 01:17:14,500
- I didn't really know what the
- fuck I was getting myself into.
- 1058
- 01:17:17,417 --> 01:17:19,500
- I finally hit the jackpot.
- 1059
- 01:17:20,458 --> 01:17:23,417
- She invited me to an event.
- 1060
- 01:17:23,417 --> 01:17:27,417
- All of alt-right Twitter
- in the same fucking room.
- 1061
- 01:17:28,291 --> 01:17:31,208
- [chanting] USA! USA!
- 1062
- 01:17:32,166 --> 01:17:34,333
- Manning...
- 1063
- 01:17:34,333 --> 01:17:36,375
- We're never coming down.
- 1064
- 01:17:36,375 --> 01:17:38,291
- We took America back.
- 1065
- 01:17:38,291 --> 01:17:40,291
- America's ours now.
- 1066
- 01:17:40,291 --> 01:17:41,709
- We're never coming down.
- 1067
- 01:17:41,709 --> 01:17:43,458
- - Never!
- - Never!
- 1068
- 01:17:43,458 --> 01:17:45,166
- - Never coming down.
- - [shouting]
- 1069
- 01:17:45,166 --> 01:17:47,166
- - We're never coming down.
- - We're coming to get you
- 1070
- 01:17:47,166 --> 01:17:48,500
- if you try and take
- our firearms!
- 1071
- 01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:49,709
- America's back!
- 1072
- 01:17:49,709 --> 01:17:52,333
- - That's what's up!
- - You piece of filth!
- 1073
- 01:17:52,333 --> 01:17:54,417
- ♪ ♪ ♪
- 1074
- 01:18:54,125 --> 01:18:56,375
- [Chelsea] Everybody keeps
- getting mad at me.
- 1075
- 01:18:56,375 --> 01:18:58,542
- Every time I open my phone,
- people are mad at me.
- 1076
- 01:18:58,542 --> 01:19:01,250
- Every time they fucking talk
- to me, I have to break shit up.
- 1077
- 01:19:01,250 --> 01:19:02,542
- They're fucking...
- 1078
- 01:19:02,542 --> 01:19:05,583
- And guess what, they're gonna
- counter-attack for months, okay?
- 1079
- 01:19:05,583 --> 01:19:06,750
- Every time we do something,
- 1080
- 01:19:06,750 --> 01:19:08,250
- they're going to
- fucking respond.
- 1081
- 01:19:08,250 --> 01:19:09,417
- - Shh.
- - We're not going to.
- 1082
- 01:19:09,417 --> 01:19:10,834
- Chelsea, I'm not mad.
- 1083
- 01:19:10,834 --> 01:19:12,917
- - I'm not mad.
- - Yeah, you are.
- 1084
- 01:19:12,917 --> 01:19:15,208
- You might not think you're mad
- but you're mad.
- 1085
- 01:19:15,208 --> 01:19:17,458
- Do you realize, this is like
- a scene in the movie
- 1086
- 01:19:17,458 --> 01:19:19,000
- when all the good guys realize
- 1087
- 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,834
- that the enemies are
- manipulating them
- 1088
- 01:19:20,834 --> 01:19:22,375
- and dividing them
- against each other.
- 1089
- 01:19:22,375 --> 01:19:23,959
- We are a roomful of allies.
- 1090
- 01:19:23,959 --> 01:19:26,625
- We're all on the same team
- in here and we're fighting.
- 1091
- 01:19:34,166 --> 01:19:36,625
- - This is old fucking news.
- - Okay.
- 1092
- 01:19:37,875 --> 01:19:40,125
- Seven days old now.
- 1093
- 01:19:41,166 --> 01:19:42,875
- I'm tired of fucking
- hearing about this.
- 1094
- 01:19:42,875 --> 01:19:45,417
- I am too. We all are.
- 1095
- 01:19:45,417 --> 01:19:47,959
- This is driving us
- into the fucking ground.
- 1096
- 01:19:50,083 --> 01:19:51,625
- We've said so much
- to your supporters,
- 1097
- 01:19:51,625 --> 01:19:53,291
- so much to people
- who were upset.
- 1098
- 01:19:53,291 --> 01:19:55,125
- We can't say any more
- to smooth it over.
- 1099
- 01:19:55,125 --> 01:19:57,208
- Nothing we say
- will change anyone's minds.
- 1100
- 01:19:57,208 --> 01:19:59,834
- No matter what we do,
- people's minds are set.
- 1101
- 01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:09,875
- This week was fucking traumatic.
- 1102
- 01:20:09,875 --> 01:20:11,917
- And I am over it.
- I'm so over it.
- 1103
- 01:20:12,542 --> 01:20:13,667
- You don't fucking...
- 1104
- 01:20:13,667 --> 01:20:15,917
- You don't do that.
- You don't play their game.
- 1105
- 01:20:15,917 --> 01:20:17,875
- Yeah, don't play their game.
- Thank you.
- 1106
- 01:20:19,458 --> 01:20:21,667
- I messed this up.
- 1107
- 01:20:24,041 --> 01:20:26,000
- ♪ brooding violin music ♪
- 1108
- 01:21:01,583 --> 01:21:03,709
- [vehicle horn toots]
- 1109
- 01:21:04,542 --> 01:21:06,917
- [Chelsea] I knew I'd fucked up.
- 1110
- 01:21:06,917 --> 01:21:10,875
- I immediately knew
- that it was indefensible.
- 1111
- 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:14,458
- It was wrong.
- 1112
- 01:21:33,959 --> 01:21:35,917
- I don't know what people
- are expecting out of me.
- 1113
- 01:21:35,917 --> 01:21:38,542
- I mean, I don't know
- what the fuck I'm doing.
- 1114
- 01:21:38,542 --> 01:21:40,500
- I just got out of prison.
- 1115
- 01:21:44,709 --> 01:21:46,750
- You know. And here we are.
- 1116
- 01:21:46,750 --> 01:21:48,834
- We're right next to Quantico,
- by the way.
- 1117
- 01:21:48,834 --> 01:21:50,625
- Where we are.
- 1118
- 01:21:50,625 --> 01:21:52,709
- So... About a mile and a half
- 1119
- 01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:55,583
- from where I was held
- in solitary confinement.
- 1120
- 01:22:12,917 --> 01:22:16,458
- I was never gonna be a...
- a mouthpiece.
- 1121
- 01:22:19,959 --> 01:22:22,125
- I'm not a hero.
- 1122
- 01:22:27,792 --> 01:22:29,792
- I'm just somebody who...
- 1123
- 01:22:32,417 --> 01:22:34,792
- ...you know...
- 1124
- 01:22:34,792 --> 01:22:36,959
- I've always been somebody
- 1125
- 01:22:36,959 --> 01:22:39,291
- willing to, like, jump in
- and do something.
- 1126
- 01:22:45,125 --> 01:22:47,667
- I've spoken through
- other family members to her
- 1127
- 01:22:47,667 --> 01:22:49,709
- but it's very difficult
- to reach her.
- 1128
- 01:22:56,834 --> 01:22:59,083
- You know, and she's not well.
- 1129
- 01:23:00,792 --> 01:23:03,000
- She had a stroke. Yeah.
- 1130
- 01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:07,208
- I try to not get them involved
- 1131
- 01:23:07,208 --> 01:23:09,417
- in all the craziness
- that happens around me.
- 1132
- 01:23:13,625 --> 01:23:16,667
- I heard from my father but...
- we don't talk much.
- 1133
- 01:23:22,667 --> 01:23:24,583
- Our...
- 1134
- 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,083
- Our positions on life
- are so divergent
- 1135
- 01:23:30,083 --> 01:23:32,709
- that I don't know
- if we can reconcile.
- 1136
- 01:23:33,917 --> 01:23:35,959
- I don't know
- if we can reconcile.
- 1137
- 01:23:39,083 --> 01:23:41,917
- He cared less
- about me being gay.
- 1138
- 01:23:43,041 --> 01:23:47,291
- I think he's kind of in denial
- about my trans-ness.
- 1139
- 01:23:50,667 --> 01:23:52,125
- I think...
- 1140
- 01:23:54,792 --> 01:23:56,583
- I think...
- 1141
- 01:24:00,709 --> 01:24:02,709
- I think he doesn't know
- who I am.
- 1142
- 01:24:04,333 --> 01:24:06,208
- ♪ ♪ ♪
- 1143
- 01:25:11,041 --> 01:25:12,959
- [woman] Suspicions undoubtedly
- have been raised
- 1144
- 01:25:12,959 --> 01:25:15,792
- that this happened
- to Chelsea Manning.
- 1145
- 01:25:15,792 --> 01:25:17,542
- The police raid her home
- with guns drawn
- 1146
- 01:25:17,542 --> 01:25:19,500
- in this so-called
- "Wellness Check".
- 1147
- 01:25:20,792 --> 01:25:22,625
- She's a candidate
- for the US Senate
- 1148
- 01:25:22,625 --> 01:25:24,208
- who is known
- for participating
- 1149
- 01:25:24,208 --> 01:25:26,166
- in political protests.
- 1150
- 01:25:30,792 --> 01:25:32,333
- [clunk of car door]
- 1151
- 01:25:39,667 --> 01:25:41,500
- [ringing tone]
- 1152
- 01:25:45,834 --> 01:25:47,542
- [ringing tone continues]
- 1153
- 01:25:57,125 --> 01:25:59,000
- Come on, Janice.
- 1154
- 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,333
- [ringing tone continues]
- 1155
- 01:26:03,166 --> 01:26:05,166
- [Janice] Hey,
- I have the final statement
- 1156
- 01:26:05,166 --> 01:26:07,333
- if you want me to read it.
- 1157
- 01:26:07,333 --> 01:26:08,667
- Uh-huh.
- 1158
- 01:26:09,959 --> 01:26:12,417
- "Last year, when I was
- released from prison,
- 1159
- 01:26:12,417 --> 01:26:15,041
- I emerged into a world
- of hate and injustice.
- 1160
- 01:26:16,875 --> 01:26:18,291
- I wondered if I should spend
- 1161
- 01:26:18,291 --> 01:26:20,041
- my first year of freedom
- recovering.
- 1162
- 01:26:20,875 --> 01:26:23,875
- But I couldn't sit still.
- 1163
- 01:26:23,875 --> 01:26:26,250
- I tried to use my platform
- as a public figure
- 1164
- 01:26:26,250 --> 01:26:27,625
- to send a message.
- 1165
- 01:26:27,625 --> 01:26:29,625
- Every one of us has power.
- 1166
- 01:26:31,083 --> 01:26:33,542
- Over the past several months
- it has become clear
- 1167
- 01:26:33,542 --> 01:26:36,208
- that my experiences
- have taken an enormous toll
- 1168
- 01:26:36,208 --> 01:26:38,375
- on my physical
- and emotional health.
- 1169
- 01:26:40,083 --> 01:26:41,750
- I stepped back
- from campaigning
- 1170
- 01:26:41,750 --> 01:26:43,750
- to prioritize
- my own well-being.
- 1171
- 01:26:46,041 --> 01:26:48,875
- I found the space and
- the treatment I need to heal.
- 1172
- 01:26:49,917 --> 01:26:51,375
- I'm not giving up.
- 1173
- 01:26:51,375 --> 01:26:53,792
- I'm grateful for everyone
- who believes in me.
- 1174
- 01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:57,208
- Together we got this."
- 1175
- 01:26:57,208 --> 01:26:59,500
- - Does that sound good?
- - [sighs]
- 1176
- 01:27:01,792 --> 01:27:04,000
- Chelsea?
- 1177
- 01:27:07,125 --> 01:27:09,250
- ♪ ♪ ♪
- 1178
- 01:27:20,917 --> 01:27:23,667
- [Chelsea] It's harder
- to do the right thing
- 1179
- 01:27:23,667 --> 01:27:26,583
- than it is
- to go within the process.
- 1180
- 01:27:28,750 --> 01:27:31,792
- And so I think everybody
- has to make their own call
- 1181
- 01:27:31,792 --> 01:27:33,834
- as to what they're willing
- to do.
- 1182
- 01:27:38,750 --> 01:27:42,792
- Being trans,
- being queer as a kid...
- 1183
- 01:27:45,458 --> 01:27:47,041
- ...being unwanted
- 1184
- 01:27:47,041 --> 01:27:48,917
- and being unloved...
- 1185
- 01:27:48,917 --> 01:27:52,125
- being not cared about...
- 1186
- 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,542
- ...I've always felt
- a close connection
- 1187
- 01:27:56,542 --> 01:27:59,792
- with the people
- who are hurting the most.
- 1188
- 01:28:02,166 --> 01:28:03,750
- If I wasn't exposed to that,
- 1189
- 01:28:03,750 --> 01:28:05,959
- maybe I could ignore it
- or not see it.
- 1190
- 01:28:05,959 --> 01:28:07,542
- But I can't.
- 1191
- 01:28:07,542 --> 01:28:09,375
- ♪ ♪ ♪
- 1192
- 01:28:42,500 --> 01:28:44,542
- [Nancy] I think Chelsea
- will always be
- 1193
- 01:28:44,542 --> 01:28:46,417
- looking over her shoulder...
- 1194
- 01:28:46,417 --> 01:28:47,834
- ♪ foreboding music ♪
- 1195
- 01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:50,709
- ...for the rest of her life.
- 1196
- 01:28:54,542 --> 01:28:56,041
- In this country,
- once you've been marked
- 1197
- 01:28:56,041 --> 01:28:57,500
- as an enemy of the state,
- 1198
- 01:28:57,500 --> 01:29:00,291
- I think you'll always be
- an enemy of the state
- 1199
- 01:29:00,291 --> 01:29:02,375
- and you'll always have to worry
- 1200
- 01:29:02,375 --> 01:29:05,083
- that they'll find
- some other reason.
- 1201
- 01:29:10,041 --> 01:29:14,625
- [Chelsea] There is this sense
- of impending doom
- 1202
- 01:29:14,625 --> 01:29:17,917
- that just never dissipates
- and never goes away.
- 1203
- 01:29:17,917 --> 01:29:19,750
- ♪ ♪ ♪
- 1204
- 01:29:27,208 --> 01:29:29,250
- [woman] Chelsea Manning
- is back behind bars
- 1205
- 01:29:29,250 --> 01:29:31,041
- after refusing to testify
- 1206
- 01:29:31,041 --> 01:29:34,125
- in an investigation
- into WikiLeaks.
- 1207
- 01:29:34,125 --> 01:29:37,041
- Manning can be held
- for a maximum of 18 months
- 1208
- 01:29:37,041 --> 01:29:38,583
- for refusing to testify.
- 1209
- 01:29:38,583 --> 01:29:40,667
- Her attorney says
- they'll likely appeal.
- 1210
- 01:29:40,667 --> 01:29:44,667
- As everybody knows,
- Chelsea has tremendous courage.
- 1211
- 01:29:44,667 --> 01:29:47,750
- Our primary concern
- at this point is her health
- 1212
- 01:29:47,750 --> 01:29:49,583
- - while she is confined.
- - [siren]
- 1213
- 01:29:49,583 --> 01:29:52,959
- [man] Julian Assange's
- arrest in London on Thursday,
- 1214
- 01:29:52,959 --> 01:29:56,417
- inside Ecuador's embassy,
- was done by British police
- 1215
- 01:29:56,417 --> 01:29:59,750
- under a warrant from the
- United States for extradition.
- 1216
- 01:29:59,750 --> 01:30:02,750
- This is the charge
- that he faces. Conspiracy.
- 1217
- 01:30:02,750 --> 01:30:05,333
- Specifically related to hacking
- a government computer
- 1218
- 01:30:05,333 --> 01:30:07,917
- and his relationship
- to Chelsea Manning.
- 1219
- 01:30:07,917 --> 01:30:09,792
- [reporters calling out]
- 1220
- 01:30:10,750 --> 01:30:12,875
- [supporters call out]
- 1221
- 01:30:12,875 --> 01:30:14,750
- [Vince] It was a perjury trap.
- 1222
- 01:30:14,750 --> 01:30:16,333
- Oh, it is a perjury trap.
- 1223
- 01:30:16,333 --> 01:30:19,917
- How do you think she's holding
- up? Do you have any idea?
- 1224
- 01:30:19,917 --> 01:30:23,500
- I'm worried and I think other
- people are worried about her.
- 1225
- 01:30:24,458 --> 01:30:27,125
- I'm really concerned now
- about the...
- 1226
- 01:30:27,125 --> 01:30:30,333
- that they're holding her
- in solitary.
- 1227
- 01:30:30,333 --> 01:30:32,625
- The grand jury can go for what?
- About 18 months.
- 1228
- 01:30:32,625 --> 01:30:34,542
- And then they can start
- all over again.
- 1229
- 01:30:34,542 --> 01:30:37,125
- - They could.
- - They can go forever.
- 1230
- 01:30:37,125 --> 01:30:39,542
- She's gonna have to
- do something to...
- 1231
- 01:30:39,542 --> 01:30:43,125
- motivate herself
- to go through this.
- 1232
- 01:30:43,125 --> 01:30:44,750
- ♪ tense music ♪
- 1233
- 01:30:44,750 --> 01:30:46,625
- ♪ ♪ ♪
- 1234
- 01:30:57,709 --> 01:30:59,625
- [muffled military radio chatter]
- 1235
- 01:31:05,750 --> 01:31:07,834
- [Chelsea]
- It's never gonna stop.
- 1236
- 01:31:07,834 --> 01:31:09,750
- They're not gonna stop.
- 1237
- 01:31:11,667 --> 01:31:14,375
- It's not gonna stop
- until we stop them.
- 1238
- 01:31:16,500 --> 01:31:18,542
- [Pye Corner Audio]
- "Deep Space Probe"
- 1239
- 01:31:31,583 --> 01:31:35,542
- ♪ I used to be silent ♪
- 1240
- 01:31:35,542 --> 01:31:38,375
- ♪ Now I am ready ♪
- 1241
- 01:31:38,375 --> 01:31:41,166
- ♪ To let it all ♪
- 1242
- 01:31:42,542 --> 01:31:46,250
- ♪ Let it all out ♪
- 1243
- 01:31:48,125 --> 01:31:51,125
- ♪ There's a sadness in me ♪
- 1244
- 01:31:52,208 --> 01:31:55,083
- ♪ I cannot control ♪
- 1245
- 01:31:55,083 --> 01:31:57,375
- ♪ I let it all ♪
- 1246
- 01:31:59,375 --> 01:32:02,709
- ♪ Let it all out ♪
- 1247
- 01:32:05,166 --> 01:32:07,041
- ♪ Out on the streets ♪
- 1248
- 01:32:09,250 --> 01:32:12,542
- ♪ On the stupid and the weak ♪
- 1249
- 01:32:14,375 --> 01:32:16,375
- ♪ You can hold me now ♪
- 1250
- 01:32:18,291 --> 01:32:20,125
- ♪ You can hold me now ♪
- 1251
- 01:32:20,125 --> 01:32:24,083
- ♪ Let it all ♪
- 1252
- 01:32:28,083 --> 01:32:32,458
- ♪ Let it all ♪
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