#documentation text dump Late May - Early June

Isotarge - 05/27/2016
More Japanese version differences:
- BBlast skip roof rim is now slippery
- Caves rocketbarrel oob patched, lower ceiling above bblast pad
- Dark room GB isn't spawned without completing the intended way
If they're not on the wiki soon someone please remind me to add them thanks
May 28, 2016
Adam Whitmore - 05/28/2016
if you get barrel storage in the hunky chunky barrel and c-up immediately you get the 2nd person mode
and you can see the kong in the idol animation in the 2nd person view(edited)
and you can throw oranges
May 29, 2016
theballaam96 - 05/29/2016
So, I managed to fall through the lava-water in Llama Temple like the lava-water didn't exist. Had my gun out, got whacked into the l-water by a kremling. It seems like I ledge clipped OoB, however, to my knowledge, the l-water extends out of bounds too, so I should've landed in water
Unfortunately no recording
For a very small amount of time (probably a second or less), I was able to walk on the floor whilst under the water plane, probably re-triggered the 'swimming' trigger when I walked in-bounds again(edited)
May 30, 2016
Connor75 - 05/30/2016
If you have a bad skew, Chunky can walk through walls easier than DK (useful for voiding in Fungi in NLE) - Credit goes to THE @Adam Whitmore
Kiwikiller67 - 05/30/2016
any kong besides DK is easier, diddy is the easiest as you also can chimpy charge if you are really stuck
Adam Whitmore - 05/30/2016
if you have a really bad skew?
Kiwikiller67 - 05/30/2016
yes, really bad skew + chimpy charge will still usually get yourself out
Adam Whitmore - 05/30/2016
chunky is easier
but yeah
Kiwikiller67 - 05/30/2016
disagree, you can have a much worse skew with diddy than any other kong
not going to argue though
Adam Whitmore - 05/30/2016
in the LOTAD it use chunky for a bad skew in caves to go to the chunkys igloo gb
Kiwikiller67 - 05/30/2016
that was because that section required chunky, not that chunky was the easiest
(if i'm remembering correctly)
GloriousLiar - 05/30/2016
yeah lotad definitely wouldnt choose another kong just for that
June 2, 2016
Mouse - 06/02/2016
likely known but there is a chimpy charge dive similar to PP or orange dive
June 3, 2016
Adam Whitmore - 06/03/2016
did you see that in the LOTAD?
Mouse - 06/03/2016
nope. if it was there i missed it
Adam Whitmore - 06/03/2016
its in the lotad
Mouse - 06/03/2016
okay. I don't have the entire 4 1/2+ hours memorized
RingRush - 06/03/2016
there should be a rescreening because I'm sure there are things people missed the first time
GloriousLiar - 06/03/2016
well i mean its on youtube/twitch already
everyone should just have a homework assignment to rewatch it
and take notes for a quiz
RingRush - 06/03/2016
alright I'll make a quiz, winner gets ...idk an opportunity to interview me on stream....or a short lotad of their choice or something
Mouse - 06/03/2016
the easy response would have "it's already known" and it would be no big deal. Asking roundabout questions that inherently imply the answer is just being rude about it
GloriousLiar - 06/03/2016
how short is short? 15 minutes?
cros107 - 06/03/2016
Wait does ringrush still stream dk?
June 4, 2016
EmoArbiter - 06/04/2016
I'll make a video later, but Chunky can get his ice shield GB under skew by backflipping on top of Snide's and doing either
1) OoB nav to a certain spot and long jump through the side, or
2) Primate punch on the known weak corner of the shield and fall through

I don't know if this is useful for NLE yet
markusman64ds 🐵 - 06/04/2016
BP turnins in caves hype
wait actually even if that were fast you would lose skew entering lol
can you get from the ice shield to the 5di skewed? you could maybe reach tiny's then
Tiffanyjane - 06/04/2016
no
EmoArbiter - 06/04/2016
not as chunky
Kiwikiller67 - 06/04/2016
when you make a video tag me please and I'll look into routing
GloriousLiar - 06/04/2016
nice find emo
EmoArbiter - 06/04/2016
Long Jump method - https://youtu.be/SOzXLiYlAxY
Primate Punch method - https://youtu.be/dPgTZVeWP2c
YouTube
EmoArbiter
Donkey Kong 64 Glitch - Skew to Chunky's Ice Shield Banana (Long...


YouTube
EmoArbiter
Donkey Kong 64 Glitch - Skew to Chunky's Ice Shield Banana (Prim...


DigitalVortex - 06/04/2016
that longjump method looks really close to falling 😮
theballaam96 - 06/04/2016
@Kiwikiller67
EmoArbiter - 06/04/2016
yeah the long jump is pretty sketchy but you get a feel for it after a while
Outlaw - 06/04/2016
nice emo
DigitalVortex - 06/04/2016
also, do you have to load the room the way you do?
EmoArbiter - 06/04/2016
I actually got it 1st try when recording these but ppunch took me like 6 tries 😛
DigitalVortex - 06/04/2016
or can i just keep walking for it to load and then c up once im facing the igloo(edited)
EmoArbiter - 06/04/2016
you have to load it the way I do
DigitalVortex - 06/04/2016
oh rip
EmoArbiter - 06/04/2016
there's OoB ground in the ice shield room that will make you fall
DigitalVortex - 06/04/2016
👍🏼
GloriousLiar - 06/04/2016
Who did you skew with
EmoArbiter - 06/04/2016
Diddy/Tiny
GloriousLiar - 06/04/2016
So gun skew
EmoArbiter - 06/04/2016
yeah
GloriousLiar - 06/04/2016
If you're curious
RingRush - 06/04/2016
why not chunky?
GloriousLiar - 06/04/2016
Try gun skew with chunky by the dk portal
And then oob to snide
EmoArbiter - 06/04/2016
you could probably do it with the others but I figured they were too fat since Chunky can't even reliably dive in this level
I also found this in the context of NLE so you would be either Diddy or Tiny depending on routing
RingRush - 06/04/2016
the oob to snide is dumb but you can probably learn the angle
GloriousLiar - 06/04/2016
So you can do it without voiding
I was just speculating
RingRush - 06/04/2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nIfy8LO054&t=2h38m50s
YouTube
RingRush
Donkey Kong 64 101% "LOTAD" in 4:42:08


EmoArbiter - 06/04/2016
hm that actually might make this viable
maybe I also need to study the lotad more
RingRush - 06/04/2016
as said before, there should be a rescreening, fast forwarding through dumb stuff like minigames, because there is no way anyone remembers all the tricks in a 5 hour run
DigitalVortex - 06/04/2016
I kinda agree tbh
GloriousLiar - 06/04/2016
oh i forgot chunky only needs a meh skew to clip
Connor75 - 06/04/2016
Thanks to Adam we know that now!
GloriousLiar - 06/04/2016
the more i get told to watch the lotad again the more i feel like it is #documentation: the movie
June 5, 2016
2dos - 06/05/2016
id be down for a re screening
Tiffanyjane - 06/05/2016
^
markusman64ds 🐵 - 06/05/2016
if there is an edited rescreening it should be on ringrush's channel this time
if he wants(edited)
theballaam96 - 06/05/2016
Or one on of these group youtube viewers where it autosyncs to a certain time
Adam Whitmore - 06/05/2016
if you cancel ultra lag without voiding out or hiting the loading zones if you warp to the orgin you will hear a loud noise of throwing oranges and it lags so much just like in the kut out if you go oob and load the area
Tiffanyjane - 06/05/2016
As in, enter the stored area then tree warp to origin?
Adam Whitmore - 06/05/2016
yes
like if you play around with oranges with ultra lag multiple times
you can do the same thing in aztec or fungi boss if you go oob farther and getting close in bounds and you get fireballs everywhere and it lags so much
June 7, 2016
Mouse - 06/07/2016
likely known again but you can activate the totem ring by not actually going through it by bumping against the top part of the ring. It's slightly faster since you don't have to turn all the way around
Connor75 - 06/07/2016
Speaking of the totem, you can shoot peanuts through it to hit the mouth on the other side like in diddy phase
Obiyo - 06/07/2016
most likely already known, but you can kiwi clip as diddy by doing a cart wheel at the torch and having O lag
Kiwikiller67 - 06/07/2016
You can do it without o lag but I've only ever gotten it once
Adam Whitmore - 06/07/2016
you can do ACM with diddy as well but its really percise
Mouse - 06/07/2016
don't have access to emu right now. we know that if you front skew you, you can backwards walk through walls. Can someone check if you force full side skew with a rotation, can you side hope through stuff?
hop*
GloriousLiar - 06/07/2016
how do you rotate on that axis without cheats though
DigitalVortex - 06/07/2016
I guess you could be swimming to the left or right when you take damage rather than up or down
But that would mean you'd have to be on the same plane as the damage rather than under it and there's no place to do that in japes especially
I guess if you pick up the dk's banana the right way maybe(edited)
markusman64ds 🐵 - 06/07/2016
When is GB skew getting in a route
If its even a thing idk
DigitalVortex - 06/07/2016
You can skew picking up GB's from water. Front-facing skew is quite common for dk's cage gb in japes
Mouse - 06/07/2016
well I was curious at the moment for on emu with cheats
but the extrapolation was to whether or not having a side sloped floor as you go OoB (giving you partial side skew) can be brought back in bounds to allow for clipping
DigitalVortex - 06/07/2016
ah gotcha
Mouse - 06/07/2016
so short answer of can you side ways skew through things: yes
my idea of getting partial sideways skew off of sloped floors doesn't seem possible, as soon as you get back inbounds and over normal ground, you reset to standing normally. We would need a way to set our default rotation to this partial skew before coming in
June 8, 2016
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
i found a faster strat for dogadonequick for LOTAD and mystery menu bosses, dodge 2 fire balls, quickly pick up the barrel and then dodge 3 more fire balls and get close to him an put the barrel down, when he lands hes starting to blow up the barrel when he lifts up his hands, if you time it just right if you touch his right hand you can do the quick kill 1 second faster than the current strats, and you can get the quick key grab too(edited)
and you can also do the same thing in fungi as well
GloriousLiar - 06/08/2016
No he can't
We've been over this
2dos - 06/08/2016
@RingRush or @Isotarge could probably take a look at it in bizhawk
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
i found Banana dance skip strats in japes for lanky and tiny in diddys cave
GloriousLiar - 06/08/2016
I get it from his explanation
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
When you get out of the bonus barrel turn up,c-up and then hold forward and jump and you get the dance skip
GloriousLiar - 06/08/2016
Just put the barrel down and the explosion lingers and you let him hit you with his finger
Outlaw - 06/08/2016
that's for both adam?
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
yes
oh and you can do the same thing at lankys blueprint cave
Connor75 - 06/08/2016
Thanks Adam, got Tiny's first try 😄
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
Good 😃(edited)
GloriousLiar - 06/08/2016
Nice
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
now can you do it with lanky?
Connor75 - 06/08/2016
just got Lanky's first try as well
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
Good Job connor 😃
Connor75 - 06/08/2016
and now finally got the speedy swing sortie one first try 😄
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
DKThumb
GloriousLiar - 06/08/2016
Can you do that with every bonus barrel?
Connor75 - 06/08/2016
probably just depends on how far away it is from the wall
Kiwikiller67 - 06/08/2016
^
Connor75 - 06/08/2016
all of these are about the same distance
so you can do the same thing
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
you can probably do the same thing in fungi for krazy kong klamour
Connor75 - 06/08/2016
do you mean speedy swing sortie with tiny?
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
no
Connor75 - 06/08/2016
krazy kong klamour is like in the middle of the room right?
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
yes
you just kinda have to wait a little bit to get the dance skip
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
you can also do the gb dance skip for Chunkys Beaver bother in castle
SecretHumorMan - 06/08/2016
how about lanky picture room?
in japes?
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
possibly?(edited)
hitokage220 - 06/08/2016
huh
GloriousLiar - 06/08/2016
Can you explain it again
Just turn to the wall c up and jump?
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
forward jump
markusman64ds 🐵 - 06/08/2016
lanky picture room isn't a bonus barrel
or is this for more than just bonus barrels?
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
it has a wall
markusman64ds 🐵 - 06/08/2016
so any GB near a wall?
Adam Whitmore - 06/08/2016
does it touch the wall?
June 9, 2016
Connor75 - 06/09/2016
https://youtu.be/aIXf8jWzjAk
YouTube
Connor75
Donkey Kong 64 - Various Golden Banana Dance Skips


hitokage220 - 06/09/2016
thank you connor
Kiwikiller67 - 06/09/2016
^
Bismuth - 06/09/2016
nice 69 GBs
markusman64ds 🐵 - 06/09/2016
oh how did I not read that you use an orange
lol
thought this was some magical height value trick
GloriousLiar - 06/09/2016
nobody mentioned an orange .....
hitokage220 - 06/09/2016
yeah
thats why i was so confused
Kiwikiller67 - 06/09/2016
^
Bismuth - 06/09/2016
yeah same
Connor75 - 06/09/2016
oh LOL
Outlaw - 06/09/2016
yea same
i thought it was some oddball orangeless skip, i tried without an orange and connor said he got it so i assumed i was braindead
and waited for the vid
hitokage220 - 06/09/2016
hehe
markusman64ds 🐵 - 06/09/2016
I thought it made the game think you were higher above ground than you actually were
Kiwikiller67 - 06/09/2016
same outlaw
Connor75 - 06/09/2016
how was i the only one that knew to use an orange lol
GloriousLiar - 06/09/2016
because usually when we bring up new dance skips they're orangeless
Outlaw - 06/09/2016
if it's not specified why would i use one?, there are dance skip w/o oranges m8
Kiwikiller67 - 06/09/2016
^
Connor75 - 06/09/2016
well regardless, these are 5 more dance skips that are free im adding into my runs
GloriousLiar - 06/09/2016
world record is free
Outlaw - 06/09/2016
cool
Adam Whitmore - 06/09/2016
why did you get a double sound in that video?
wait never mind
wait i forgot you can do the dance skip in diddys 5di
with an orange of course