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- Day 293.6 McMahon Silverscript
- Day 293.6 Meet Michael McMahon, FBI Special Agent and Vetting Whistleblower Aug 10 2017
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS_yJNQNH9o SilverScript
- Transcript
- 0:05
- good afternoon everyone you're at Bryant
- 0:08
- Park again here in beautiful New York
- 0:10
- City they have concerts looks like
- 0:13
- Thursday Friday and Saturday I think
- 0:15
- maybe Sunday even as well one of my
- 0:18
- favorite spots one of the favorite spots
- 0:20
- of Mark Twain of all people 42nd and
- 0:25
- sixth Avenue alright and Avenue of the
- 0:29
- Americas but if you want to say it of
- 0:30
- course when you come to New York always
- 0:32
- go visit the New York Public Library one
- 0:35
- of the things I asked about before I got
- 0:38
- in a train to go see my son I haven't
- 0:39
- seen him in such a long time and it's
- 0:42
- always funny to see your son in a
- 0:45
- doctor's outfit in your life another
- 0:47
- thing same kid that I diaper I'm sure up
- 0:50
- dying hates me but yeah just hearing
- 0:53
- about all the
- 0:56
- but he's quite a good doctor and anyway
- 1:01
- Michael McMahon Michael McMahon
- 1:04
- one of the great things about this job
- 1:06
- somebody fox business stopped me and
- 1:08
- then interviewed me in Times Square
- 1:10
- today and it was Fox famous Maria
- 1:14
- Bartiromo hears a sharp shout out
- 1:15
- different Maria Bartiromo I didn't she
- 1:19
- broke the law brothers story really that
- 1:21
- made the mainstream media Luke a rosy
- 1:24
- act of course had that story with with
- 1:27
- the print media with Daily Caller but
- 1:29
- Maria Bartiromo at Fox Business was
- 1:32
- really the first one who broke it
- 1:34
- and television anyway the person asked
- 1:37
- me to question what job do you think you
- 1:40
- would like the most and I said the job
- 1:42
- where you do exactly what you want to do
- 1:44
- and and what does that mean you well
- 1:48
- it's telling the truth this is what job
- 1:50
- you what would be the worst
- 1:52
- consideration and getting a job and I
- 1:54
- said well doing what other people think
- 1:56
- you want you want you to do and being
- 1:59
- true to yourself looking inside your
- 2:00
- heart and doing what you think you do
- 2:02
- best so a lot of all my decisions are
- 2:05
- made that way I would have said that as
- 2:06
- an answer if I didn't believe that so
- 2:09
- that one of those times was no
- 2:12
- conversation I just had right over here
- 2:14
- two minutes ago
- 2:16
- with Michael McMahon he's now he's in
- 2:18
- California but he was a special agent
- 2:21
- with the FBI in Virginia now it's an
- 2:25
- undisclosed location that he was in in
- 2:27
- charge of but he was in charge of OPM
- 2:31
- OPM is the Office of Personnel
- 2:33
- Management and he was in charge his unit
- 2:36
- his unit was in charge in the Virginia
- 2:39
- area same place he Awan czar this is
- 2:41
- before he left since then because of
- 2:44
- being a whistleblower
- 2:46
- but the reason why he left was because
- 2:50
- he said there was six hundred sixty
- 2:52
- thousand checks that had been just
- 2:55
- processed through because they were paid
- 2:57
- on volume not on quality they were paid
- 3:00
- on quantity not on quality so I had to
- 3:04
- know more about this story I had to talk
- 3:06
- to him more about that and explain and
- 3:09
- find out how are you only at the AIB at
- 3:12
- the FBI a year how did you get so high
- 3:15
- up gs-15 you got promoted seven months
- 3:18
- in but I said I started as a gs-13 I had
- 3:21
- a stellar record in Iraq in excuse me at
- 3:27
- CENTCOM I believe was a Rob he's a Navy
- 3:30
- officer I had an outstanding career as a
- 3:33
- navy officer serving our country and he
- 3:36
- came in and he said hey you've got a
- 3:38
- problem here there's two parts to
- 3:40
- betting one service is called name check
- 3:43
- this is the type of thing that I tweeted
- 3:45
- out right before I got on the train up
- 3:47
- to to the Bronx this is the the easy
- 3:51
- step where that someone has multiple
- 3:54
- Social Security numbers multiple if they
- 3:57
- were committed crimes multiple offender
- 3:59
- IDs where they're trying to keep their
- 4:00
- their ID secret and so forth that's one
- 4:06
- part of the service here an name check
- 4:08
- so just name check is what it is a name
- 4:10
- check and he said basically why do name
- 4:13
- check if you're not really checking why
- 4:15
- even use the verb check if you're not
- 4:18
- checking you're not checking obviously
- 4:20
- they were not checking because the
- 4:22
- Ilan's got through and they were not
- 4:23
- checking and you should be checking year
- 4:24
- after year okay
- 4:26
- and he said ninety-eight ninety-nine
- 4:27
- percent of the people that work for the
- 4:30
- government go through this OPM so there
- 4:33
- is some kind of checking and as you go
- 4:35
- higher and higher obviously there's more
- 4:36
- and more involved FBI checking so he has
- 4:40
- gone to Congress he wrote a letter to
- 4:42
- Grassley they brought him in front of
- 4:45
- the I believe it was a Judiciary
- 4:47
- Committee in the Senate had three hour
- 4:48
- testimony
- 4:50
- it was kind of a here he comes there he
- 4:52
- goes story you know well we wrote our
- 4:53
- letter we're signing off now betting is
- 4:57
- a problem this has to go out to the
- 5:00
- President of the United States because
- 5:02
- here is a man who also is a badge of
- 5:06
- honor who also had Mike Boyce said this
- 5:09
- cannot go on
- 5:10
- what's in these emails of these 50
- 5:12
- Chiefs that what they saw this cannot go
- 5:15
- on this is not the way we run things in
- 5:18
- the United States of America this is an
- 5:20
- FBI guy that said that now of course
- 5:22
- what do you think happened immediately
- 5:24
- everyone started treating him like dirt
- 5:26
- when he was a whistleblower even though
- 5:28
- we were supposed to put in a stronger
- 5:29
- whistle protect protection act we really
- 5:32
- didn't and he was basically drummed out
- 5:36
- of the service for standing up for what
- 5:39
- he believed in was a very serious
- 5:42
- national security risk so again I can't
- 5:46
- do what other people want me to do I
- 5:48
- can't I gotta be myself if I start
- 5:51
- trying to be somebody I'm not it's just
- 5:52
- not gonna work I have to be me
- 5:55
- if something bothers me whether you
- 5:57
- whether that's a good thing or a bad
- 5:58
- thing I have to say it I have to say it
- 6:00
- straight to the people to the American
- 6:02
- people straight to the to the world and
- 6:04
- let the chips fall where they may and
- 6:06
- that is exactly what Michael McMahon did
- 6:09
- he did not care about promotion or
- 6:12
- anything else other than security of the
- 6:15
- United States of America if Mike I can
- 6:17
- tell already 20 minutes of speaking
- 6:19
- would like a man if he would have been
- 6:21
- on at the switch and to help there wants
- 6:24
- would have never happened
- 6:26
- there's no doubt in my mind the Awan
- 6:29
- thing would be something that's
- 6:30
- completely the Unitas
- 6:31
- now I don't think p-tech would have
- 6:34
- happened either I don't think a
- 6:35
- Pakistani firm with given the exclusive
- 6:37
- rights to giving out these exclusive
- 6:39
- contracts
- 6:40
- with these blackberries you can take
- 6:42
- over and make a deal here's the secret
- 6:44
- secure blackberry that Anthony Weiner's
- 6:46
- trusted staff configured over there in
- 6:48
- the corner for most of our contracts are
- 6:51
- GSA contracts we'll do it above board
- 6:52
- we'll have open bidding everyone will
- 6:54
- compete they will stay up late at night
- 6:56
- doing proposals like I used to do as a
- 6:57
- sales guy but for our special group for
- 7:00
- our fate of Lakeland you know you may as
- 7:02
- well call it you know pay to blackberry
- 7:04
- will give you a blackberry you can if
- 7:07
- you get in on the bid as a token almost
- 7:10
- all senses that's a kind of a almost
- 7:13
- like a pay-to-play token these
- 7:15
- blackberries p-tech Lori found in two
- 7:18
- minutes boom
- 7:19
- I forget I'm away from my laptop Lori
- 7:21
- found it in two minutes
- 7:22
- P Tech is the company we're coming back
- 7:25
- to it because this is going to as I said
- 7:28
- before as these strings start coming
- 7:30
- apart and it just keeps bringing more
- 7:32
- and more
- 7:33
- Jack Lou ed p-tech coming at you pro you
- 7:37
- left too many footprints too many
- 7:39
- footprints we're gonna have expert
- 7:41
- witnesses coming forward I've had
- 7:43
- several calls on the lawsuit already
- 7:45
- today several attorneys already saying
- 7:48
- let's do this thing
- 7:49
- let's really go after JTTF it's way
- 7:52
- worse than you think it is
- 7:53
- you know everybody coming back at me
- 7:54
- going it is the OD it's not like the OD
- 7:57
- it's not influenced by DoD it's maybe
- 8:01
- Michael's not a special agent I have not
- 8:03
- even had a chance to vent Michael right
- 8:04
- other than 20 different people better oh
- 8:07
- oh that was Michael say that he was way
- 8:10
- high up not a special agent okay not an
- 8:11
- SAIC I apologize she was not doing a
- 8:13
- little office he ran OPM I love this
- 8:19
- thanks Michael so online journalism I
- 8:23
- like correction that's not I don't need
- 8:24
- to issue a retraction I just need to
- 8:26
- blush and say
- 8:27
- yes he was way high up used a gs-15 so
- 8:30
- people in the government certainly with
- 8:31
- them so we're gonna get to know Michael
- 8:35
- over time and I also want in-depth way
- 8:40
- interview the kind of interviews that
- 8:41
- Jason Goodman does or he really asked
- 8:44
- those great questions I mean I saw just
- 8:46
- just a plug Jason for a little bit I saw
- 8:49
- some incredible interviewing techniques
- 8:51
- that Jason just never got a chance to
- 8:54
- show too much because of so much stuff
- 8:56
- going on and so much news has been so
- 8:58
- much running around and when you see
- 9:01
- this Lionel interview I've been watching
- 9:02
- it you know a day to day we've been you
- 9:04
- know 20 hours a day literally for the
- 9:08
- last whatever three months when you see
- 9:11
- this interview when it comes out I know
- 9:13
- he hates me to put pressure on it's it's
- 9:15
- gets a great interview and you're going
- 9:17
- to have other interviews like that
- 9:20
- coming out for Charles or tell and
- 9:23
- you're gonna have out of the interviews
- 9:24
- like that I hope it's gonna do my
- 9:26
- interview my second because I want that
- 9:28
- brave men out there
- 9:29
- so anyway Lori thank you you're just I
- 9:33
- mean I am dirt compared to Lori she's
- 9:39
- the brains she's just a sprain right
- 9:41
- it's right back here and she says it
- 9:43
- kind of reminds me of that broadcast
- 9:44
- news was way of heard and then somebody
- 9:47
- was saying
- 9:47
- the x-15 you know afterburners have been
- 9:50
- known to go out it's bad weather
- 9:51
- situations you know that he was getting
- 9:53
- the air pieces he say so that's all for
- 9:57
- right now I want you to get to know a
- 9:58
- Michael McMahon he tweeted back to me
- 10:01
- directly I didn't know whether to take
- 10:02
- this or flip it over to crowdsource the
- 10:04
- truth he got back meat to me directly so
- 10:07
- I felt the obligation of telling his
- 10:08
- story again
- 10:10
- I like crowd source of truth to continue
- 10:13
- to develop this I think Jason would just
- 10:15
- be a fantastic for camera interview
- 10:18
- likely get the line like we did for dr.
- 10:20
- Corsi you likely good for Charles or
- 10:23
- talent
- 10:25
- who knows so anyway oh gosh that was
- 10:28
- Michael sending me a thing about records
- 10:30
- man
- 10:30
- a lot of the questions I asked he said
- 10:34
- I'm sorry I can't answer that I'm sorry
- 10:36
- I can't answer it sorry that's
- 10:38
- classified so this is a person who still
- 10:41
- has a very high esteem for the secrecy
- 10:44
- of the people of our country that have
- 10:47
- worked for our government now you
- 10:49
- probably also remember the OPM hack the
- 10:52
- OPM hack where 22 million records were
- 10:54
- hacked we don't know who hacked them but
- 10:56
- it could be a hacking group I mean I'm
- 10:58
- just guessing
- 10:59
- cozy pairs it could be a hacking group
- 11:02
- on Capitol Hill maybe maybe I think I
- 11:06
- know where the records are Kevin I think
- 11:07
- it's yeah yes I think it's D is a and
- 11:10
- near near Springfield but
- 11:13
- I won't speak publicly for you Jason I
- 11:15
- apologize the I'm gonna sign off now I
- 11:18
- just wanted to say so long from Central
- 11:23
- Park that's at Park Bryant Park taught
- 11:25
- me
- 11:27
- look forward to getting to know Michael
- 11:30
- McMahon's better over time we're not
- 11:33
- gonna quit on learning who's Michael my
- 11:36
- fan is and the issues that we had with
- 11:38
- netting and name search
- 11:41
- and it's the nature excuse me until
- 11:43
- we're done
- 11:45
- you
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