[7/20, 15:15] Junglemuffin: Xerxes
[7/20, 15:15] Junglemuffin: I'd like to have a chat with you/aga/whoever decided tour cancerous fuxking strategy for this round please
[7/20, 15:20] X: ?
[7/20, 15:20] X: What cancerous strategy was that?
[7/20, 15:22] Junglemuffin: Ok, so, im going to speak my mind and how i see it, and how i see the impacts your strategic choices made
[7/20, 15:23] X: Awesome, cant wait to hear it
[7/20, 15:31] Junglemuffin: That's fine. Some people respect my opinion with regards to the game and how it is optimally played, while others don't. I'm more than happy to let me my name speak for itself, with all the bitter, little man nature that this community is largely built upon, or, the reasonable, non emotionally driven logic that exceptionally rare player types are more likely to use.
[7/20, 15:32] X: Right, and what cancerous strategy did we use?
[7/20, 15:32] Junglemuffin: Which one?
[7/20, 15:34] X: Well, I am curious, what did we do that was cancerous?
[7/20, 15:36] Junglemuffin: Personally, I see the options as varying, and multiplicitupus.
[7/20, 15:36] Junglemuffin: I see your 'no fucks given' no defense approach as one.
[7/20, 15:37] Junglemuffin: I see effect that had on your members individually as another.
[7/20, 15:37] X: Well, if you actually say what you think was cancerous, I could actually  offer our point of view
[7/20, 15:38] Junglemuffin: I see it as problematic as a player individually, but also with regards to alliance play, and galaxy play.
[7/20, 15:38] Junglemuffin: Sure.
[7/20, 15:38] Junglemuffin: And if you give me a bit of time, I will.
[7/20, 15:39] X: Shoot
[7/20, 15:49] Junglemuffin: I also would like to critique your political approach, not just for the impacts it had on a macro level, but specifically on a micro level that reated in a cancerous, combative, non contributive, exclusionary and ultimately  uncooperative approach to the game.
[7/20, 15:54] Junglemuffin: One of the lessons I've learned as a player is: Regardless of how qualified/skilled you are as an individual/group, you cannot succeed regardless of the community.
[7/20, 16:06] Junglemuffin: I feel that relates to Ult insofar as: Your non cooperative approach resulted in alienating potential defensively supportive/minded players from your possible defense pool.
[7/20, 16:09] Junglemuffin: Because of this, Ult chose to effectively 'exorcise' themselves from the playerbase, forcing themselves into a politically futile position, much the same as alliances like CT/IB/et al. have taken previously.
[7/20, 16:17] Junglemuffin: As far as Ult's internal approach, I cannot speak with regards to their internal methodology.
[7/20, 16:25] Junglemuffin: What I can speak towards though is, what I percieve to ultimately be a constrictive approach towards a player base that should largely be afforded their individual freedom, due to the nature of their individual ability.
[7/20, 16:28] X: Erm, we had no DCs this round and the stats were pretty bad for defensive play anyway - so playing value was not an option, especially since we had apprime and carnage as hostiles pre-round. So we went xp.

Nothing cancerous about that.
[7/20, 16:28] Junglemuffin: I can't speak to your recruitment methods, but I cannot help but sincerely wonder why you recruit the most individually talented and creative players in the game, and then force them into a box that is built by players/politicians that have ultimately shown to be inferior as far as the game is concerned.
[7/20, 16:31] Junglemuffin: Personally, I cannot understand how you have B~ standard HC//leaders/players acting like fucking SS agents, restricting the creativity of arguably the best fucking players in the game.
[7/20, 16:32] X: If agar3s and me are so bad, why did we win 2 out of 3 previous rounds? The members carry us?
[7/20, 16:32] X: :p
[7/20, 16:32] Junglemuffin: IMO, you've got the best fucking players in the game. So why are shit tier, flog players controlling the playerbase?
[7/20, 16:32] Junglemuffin: Xerxes
[7/20, 16:33] Junglemuffin: I dont think ur bad at all.
[7/20, 16:35] Junglemuffin: I have minimal experience with you in this game so far, and i can see so far that ur not a mug, arguably, much better than a mug. Aga i've known a lot longer, and i know he's shit hot
[7/20, 16:36] Junglemuffin: What i do think is, u guys are pissing talent up against the fucking wall
[7/20, 16:36] Junglemuffin: Uve got the best players in the fucking game,  from what i have seen...
[7/20, 16:38] Junglemuffin: So, what i dont understand is,  why are you forcing a player base that consists of 12 inch fucking beast cocks, into a play style that is restricting like a pack of 4 inch frangers, with equivalent politics?
[7/20, 16:39] Junglemuffin: U have 60 monster cocks in tag....why are u playing a 3 inch cock game?
[7/20, 16:41] X: I already told you, we had no DCs this round and confirmed hostiles pre-round. There was no way for us to play value with these stats
[7/20, 16:41] X: So we went xp
[7/20, 16:42] Junglemuffin: Confirmed hostiles?
[7/20, 16:42] Junglemuffin: What does thst even mean
[7/20, 16:42] X: Apprime and carnage were hostile from pre-round
[7/20, 16:42] Junglemuffin: U mean ur pols HC failed pre ticks?
[7/20, 16:43] Junglemuffin: If they are 0-2 before the round starts, how are they even fucking HC?
[7/20, 16:43] X: Lol, no - some things are outside of our control. Stats and cardinals mood are two of those things, lol
[7/20, 16:44] Junglemuffin: Nothing is outside of your control.
[7/20, 16:44] Junglemuffin: If ur accepting defeat before u even begin, ehy bother
[7/20, 16:45] X: We didnt accept defeat, we adjusted to the stats and politics as they were
[7/20, 16:45] Junglemuffin: I understand u guys were concerned about ult pre round....
[7/20, 16:47] Junglemuffin: Ok...so...i can understand u expected to be on the wrong side politically
[7/20, 16:47] Junglemuffin: Especially after ladt round
[7/20, 16:47] X: Yeah, winning 2 rounds in a row will do that for you 🤗
[7/20, 16:47] Junglemuffin: Which leads me to thinking
[7/20, 16:47] Junglemuffin: Xan FI
[7/20, 16:47] Junglemuffin: Nah
[7/20, 16:48] Junglemuffin: Winning 2x isnt the prob...its the manner in which it haopened the round before...
[7/20, 16:48] Junglemuffin: U were always going to be on the recieving end this round after what happened last
[7/20, 16:49] Junglemuffin: But....
[7/20, 16:49] Junglemuffin: The xan FI
[7/20, 16:49] Junglemuffin: Whos fuxking idea was that
[7/20, 16:49] Junglemuffin: Did u guys not see ghosts?
[7/20, 16:50] Junglemuffin: If ur goinf to go 3x......how the fuxk do u chose phant over ghost?
[7/20, 16:50] Junglemuffin: Who chose FI over FR?
[7/20, 16:51] X: I was on honeymoon when strat was picked so who's idea I dont remember.

Regarding ghosts, all strats had holes - but we needed something that was hard to FC since we wouldnt defend this round
[7/20, 16:52] Junglemuffin: Honeymoon?!
[7/20, 16:52] Junglemuffin: U marry aga?
[7/20, 16:52] Junglemuffin: 😂😂😂😂😂
[7/20, 16:52] X: Hahaha