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  1. [08:36:11] rosetango -> Adminhelp: AI (CL) is impeding my work as an engineer and refusing to let me into Atmos despite me explaining CLEARLY to them that I'm trying to optimize it.
  2. [08:36:45] garnascus -> rosetango: he is allowed to deny you access due to you not being an atmos technician.
  3. [08:37:05] rosetango -> garnascus: Okay.
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  7. 09:00:45] drwago -> rosetango: Got a sec?
  8. [09:00:50] rosetango -> drwago: Yep.
  9. [09:01:16] drwago -> rosetango: Whats going on between you and the AI, (CL) something about you claiming its rouge?
  10. [09:01:41] rosetango -> drwago: The AI (CL) is refusing to let me optimize atmos, which is literally two pumps.
  11. [09:01:54] drwago -> rosetango: You are not a atmos tech
  12. [09:02:04] rosetango -> drwago: A CE literally taught me.
  13. [09:02:54] rosetango -> drwago: It is two pumps. The same kind we interact with in the engine room. Are you now telling me I can't set up the engine because I'm too stupid to use pumps?
  14. [09:03:04] drwago -> rosetango: But why are you calling the AI (CL) rouge and broken for it doing its job
  15. [09:03:59] rosetango -> drwago: It's not. It's refusing to let me in to do my job, which violates laws two and three, which is setting up two pumps so that one, roons fill faster, two, the PAPs fill faster.
  16. [09:05:06] drwago -> rosetango: I asked why you are telling people its rouge and lieing about it over comms
  17. [09:05:11] rosetango -> drwago: If a law is violating another law, then they are to do NOTHING. This is what I have been told by Prate.
  18. [09:05:18] rosetango -> drwago: I'm not lying about it.
  19. [09:05:30] rosetango -> drwago: And I just told you why.
  20. [09:06:16] drwago -> rosetango: But werent you told the AI (CL) can deny you access?
  21. [09:06:27] drwago -> rosetango: Why are you tampering with the apc
  22. [09:07:35] rosetango -> drwago: Yes. However, by not letting into atmos, she is impeding my work, which is NOT serving the crew, and she is actually ENDANGERING crew by hindering engineering work. I tampered with the APC so that the AI (CL) would stop preventing me from checking the pumps.
  23. [09:08:34] rosetango -> drwago: She wouldn't even unbolt the doors for the engineer WITH atmos access, as far as I'm aware.
  24. [09:09:28] rosetango -> drwago: In fact, what she's doing even violates law one, because it does indeed impair the engineer's capability to fix the station in a timely manner.
  25. [09:10:01] drwago -> rosetango: You are not a atmos tech first of all, the AI (CL) is allowed to deny yuo access, im saying this as the synth lore deputy, you are rule lawyering the laws, secondaly Garn told you they can deny you access
  26. [09:10:21] drwago -> rosetango: Then you tampered with a main station APC to prevent them from locking unauthorized personal out
  27. [09:11:40] rosetango -> drwago: Yes, so that I could GET to the pumps. Not being an atmos tech doesn't mean I can't touch TWO pumps in the atmos area. If you're going to prevent me from doing this, then you are going to have to warn every single engineer who is NOT an atmos tech of this too. Which includes engineers like Kaylee (?) Ling, Kylee Steele, Oliver Roadman, etcetera.
  28. [09:12:46] rosetango -> drwago: I will literally show you exactly what I did Drwago. (?)
  29. [09:13:04] drwago -> rosetango: the CE can do it as he has access, you do not have access and broke into a area you were not supposed to and tampered with things you shouldnt be. Garn stated they were allowed to do this but you essentialy tried to circumvent this
  30. [09:13:26] rosetango -> drwago: Garn did not say I couldn't do these things. What rules am I breaking?
  31. [09:14:34] drwago -> rosetango: The point is, this is essentialy self antagging. You are tamepring with station equipment aswell as the AI (CL) by extension of disabling there access as a non antag
  32. [09:14:52] drwago -> rosetango: Garn was clear that the AI (CL) was able to lock (?) you out as you are not a atmos tech
  33. [09:14:54] rosetango -> drwago: I wouldn't have to disable their access if they would let me check the points.
  34. [09:15:04] rosetango -> drwago: Sorry, pumps.
  35. [09:15:09] drwago -> rosetango: You arent a atmos tech
  36. [09:15:25] rosetango -> drwago: Okay. And how is that relevant, drwago? (?)
  37. [09:16:08] rosetango -> drwago: I'm not sabotaging the station because these systems are not set up by default.
  38. [09:16:08] drwago -> rosetango: So they can prevent your access as its there job,
  39. [09:16:27] rosetango -> drwago: And it's my job to ensure that I can do repairs in a timely manner.
  40. [09:16:41] drwago -> rosetango: Yes, but not for atmos
  41. [09:16:52] rosetango -> drwago: So I can't refill areas?
  42. [09:17:10] drwago -> rosetango: The area is restricted to the CE and atmos techs.
  43. [09:17:21] rosetango -> drwago: That's not what I'n asking, Drwago. (?)
  44. [09:17:33] rosetango -> drwago: Are you telling me that I can't refill areas?
  45. [09:18:41] drwago -> rosetango: You arent refilling a area, you are trying to access a area you do not have access to, then claiming the AI (CL) is rouge
  46. [09:20:09] rosetango -> drwago: Yes. So that the pumps will be filled. So that when something is breached, I can take the PAPs, which are now at full capacity bcause I set them up correctly, to said vented area.
  47. [09:20:27] drwago -> rosetango: The ends do not justify the means
  48. [09:21:05] rosetango -> drwago: Yes they do. Because if the pumps are set incorrectly, it will tank the atmos substation, and it could fuck up the rest of atmos, and the AI (CL) had set it up incorrectly.
  49. [09:21:06] drwago -> rosetango: You still self antagged by tampering with the AI, (CL) aswell as claiming they are rouge and malfunctioning
  50. [09:21:26] drwago -> rosetango: when garn clearly told you they were allowed to deny you access
  51. [09:21:32] rosetango -> drwago: I strongly disagree.
  52. [09:25:41] garnascus -> rosetango: hello
  53. [09:25:41] drwago -> rosetango: going to let garn take over this
  54. [09:25:47] rosetango -> garnascus: Hi.
  55. [09:26:22] rosetango -> garnascus: My responses may be delayed, as I'm now the only engineer, I think.
  56. [09:26:36] rosetango -> garnascus: The other two said they were cryo'ing.
  57. [09:27:15] garnascus -> rosetango: So, yeah i have reviewed the logs. you clearly stated over the radio that the AI (CL) was compromised. you welded yourself into a locker because the AI (?) was harassing you. All because you felt it was breaking laws for doing something that i explicitly told you the AI could legally do. this is insane self-antagging and i feel this is in line with aggressive and insane behavior displayed by willow in the complaint against you some months ago. I will be permabanning you.
  58. [09:28:21] rosetango -> garnascus: Will I be allowed to finish out the round, or is it instantly being applied?
  59. [09:28:38] garnascus -> rosetango: Instantly i am afraid :C. I am sorry.
  60. [09:28:55] rosetango -> garnascus: Please allow me a second to get the pm logs.
  61. [09:29:01] garnascus -> rosetango: go ahead
  62. [09:29:14] garnascus -> rosetango: though i can screenshot them easier if you want
  63. [09:30:01] rosetango -> garnascus: Yeah. That'd be easier. Could you send me the logs on discord?
  64. [09:30:21] garnascus -> rosetango: i can just send you the gyazo links. one sec.
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