JaysonSunshine

Enlightenment, cliques, moral duties, xsnlx, disinformation

Feb 25th, 2020
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  2. EonEcho
  3. xsnlx: I encourage you to ban AutoPirate.
  4. EonEcho
  5. Spreading disinformation is a crime against humanity.
  6. 15:14 Raven`X has kicked clearCut (I think that you should take a moment to think about things.)
  7. xsnlx
  8. Please discuss the topic, not the discussers. Thank you.
  9. EonEcho
  10. xsnlx: What?
  11. 15:15 EonEcho
  12. That appears to be a non sequitur.
  13. EonEcho
  14. xsnlx: I found your comment so terrible that I put you on ignore for two days as a result.
  15. EonEcho
  16. <Person 1> *posts that are disinformation*
  17. HRPufnstuf has joined ([email protected])
  18. Raven`X has changed mode: +v HRPufnstuf
  19. EonEcho
  20. <Person 2> The evidence indicates your posts are dis-information, Person 1.
  21. EonEcho
  22. <Person 2> There is a clear value that spreading disinformation has this moral quality.
  23. EonEcho
  24. <Person 2> Given Person 1 spread disinformation, and disinformation has that moral quality, this action is justified.
  25. EonEcho
  26. <Person 3> Please discuss the disinformation and value systems being discussed without noting applying any of it to the things being said in this channel. Thank you.
  27. EonEcho
  28. It's just a wildly incoherent position.
  29. EonEcho increases xsnlx ignore period to one week
  30. EonEcho increases xsnlx ignore period to two weeks
  31. EonEcho
  32. My evaluation of what just happened keeps getting worse the more I think about it.
  33. EonEcho
  34. It's a violation of essentially the entire Enlightenment project.
  35. EonEcho
  36. I consider it a crime against humanity.
  37. EonEcho
  38. The Enlightenment project specifically is interested in accurately understanding the nature of reality.
  39. EonEcho
  40. The Enlightenment says that it is morally good to understanding reality accurately.
  41. EonEcho
  42. The Enlightenment says that if you understand reality accurately you'll avoid harm/suffering, as well as experience harm/suffering at higher rates of your understanding of reality is distorted.
  43. EonEcho
  44. So, failure to understand truth, according to the Enlightenment, hurts people.
  45. EonEcho
  46. Therefore, willful thoughts and behaviors which block you from understanding truth, given this knowledge of the Enlightenment and its track record of success, is willfully hurting people.
  47. EonEcho
  48. It's on that basis that it is a crime against humanity.
  49. BS_Lewis has changed mode: +b *!*@71.193.10.61
  50. EonEcho
  51. So, if you organize your community in such a way that you disallow people from contributing to truth perception because of some ideas or classification or ranking or hierarchy or in-grouping, then you are failing to understand reality as well as you otherwise might be able.
  52. EonEcho
  53. Once you have knowledge of this, you're ethically bound to the consequences.
  54. EonEcho
  55. That is why xsnlx's speech was a crime against humanity.
  56. EonEcho increases xsnlx ignore to one month
  57. EonEcho
  58. Alright, I'll lock that in.
  59. Hedrin has left IRC (Client closed connection)
  60. EonEcho
  61. Summary: Deep values from religious practices or philosophical systems that have withstood scrutiny over centuries are more important than the rules of whatever clique you've created in your 75-year lifespan.
  62. EonEcho
  63. It is morally desirable to violate such trivial rules to uphold the deep values of such scrutinized systems.
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