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Subject: Fwd: B.Tech Project's irregularities in Electrical Department
From: "Dr. K.Shanti Swarup" <swarup@ee.iitm.ac.in>
To: robin <robingarg388@gmail.com>
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Robin,

Please see this mail. It is about you, A very serious accusation.

swarup


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dr. V.Jagadeesh Kumar <vjkumar@ee.iitm.ac.in>
Date: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: B.Tech Project's irregularities in Electrical Department
To: IITMstudent1 Student <iitmstudent1@gmail.com>, "Dr. Mahesh Kumar" <
mahesh@ee.iitm.ac.in>, "Dr. Shanthi Swarup" <swarup@ee.iitm.ac.in>
Cc: director@iitm.ac.in, dydirector@iitm.ac.in, dacoffice@iitm.ac.in,
dos@iitm.ac.in, ananth@iitm.ac.in, sriram@iitm.ac.in, rsreddy@iitm.ac.in,
kbram@iitm.ac.in, spush@iitm.ac.in, damo@iitm.ac.in, gopalkr@iitm.ac.in,
murthy@iitm.ac.in, vkj@iitm.ac.in, rkkumar@iitm.ac.in, spv@iitm.ac.in,
pkn@iitm.ac.in, skbh@iitm.ac.in


Dear anonymous student.

Please give me the details of the student who you say is privileged. As far
as as I am aware, a student has been transferred from Dr. Nagendra to
Professor Swarup and he still had not submitted the project thesis and hence
this accusation of showing favour is unfounded. I am copying this mail to
the the Project coordinator and the guide to take note of

HoD, EED IITM

On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 2:45 PM, IITMstudent1 Student <iitmstudent1@gmail.com
> wrote:

>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: IITMstudent1 Student <iitmstudent1@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 2:40 PM
> Subject: B.Tech Project's irregularities in Electrical Department
> To: director@iitm.ac.in, dydirector@iitm.ac.in, dacoffice@iitm.ac.in,
> dos@iitm.ac.in, ananth@iitm.ac.in, sriram@iitm.ac.in, rsreddy@iitm.ac.in,
> kbram@iitm.ac.in, spush@iitm.ac.in, damo@iitm.ac.in, gopalkr@iitm.ac.in,
> murthy@iitm.ac.in, vkj@iitm.ac.in, rkkumar@iitm.ac.in, spv@iitm.ac.in,
> pkn@iitm.ac.in, skbh@iitm.ac.in
>
>
> Respected Sir,
>                       I am a student of Electrical Department at our
> institute. I want to mention about irregularities in conduction of B.tech
> projects in Electrical Department and how are they discriminating between
> students.
>
> 1)  Sir, in our department some students are getting 6 months extension, if
> they have not done any work on their project. While some *special students
> * are given special offers to *finish their whole new BTP in 1 month.*
>
> 2) In February, when i went to one of the prof of our department to change
> my BTP, he said i am not allowed to do it now because its too late. He said
> even *if i want to change my BTP i will have to stay back here for one
> more semester*. And i am staying back now.
>
> 3) Now just after crossing the date of viva reviews, one of electrical
> department student changed his BTP prof and went to that another prof and
> *he is allowed him to finish his newly taken BTP in month. BTP was not
> even in same field. It was totally different then previous one. But still he
> got favor of prof. I think there was something special in him which we don't
> have.*
>
> 4) On one hand our institute is said to be very strict on academics
> regulations (for student like us) and for others, (like him) it is very
> lenient. What ever may be situation, a student has to work on his BTP/DDP
> for at least one year. And in such type of case he will have to stay back
> for one more semester at least. How can you people ask some of students to
> work for whole year on BTP and on failing, giving them extension, whlie
> allowing others to finish it in few days. It is totally unacceptable.
>
> 5) Changing a new BTP should be considered as taking it totally new and one
> should be asked to work for at least one semester on it.
>
> 6) I think you know rules enough in this regard.
>
> 7) He is also left with one more course to finish.
>
>                  *It is not a case of failure. He changed his BTP after
> end of final semester. And still he is allowed to finish his BTP in only one
> month.*
>
> 5) This is not only one case of this department. Some student also changed
> their BTP only 1 month before semester ending under same prof. But why is
> this discrimination between students? If student is allowed to change his
> BTP after semester end, then why other students are forced to work for one
> year.
>
> I just want proper justice on this incident. Either all student, who got
> one semester extension, should be allowed to finish their project in 1 one
> month or all (who didn't do anything till semester end and even changed
> their BTP) should stay back here for one more semester. *Or else this
> student to stay back for one more semester, like us.*
>
> We also got job, we also want to join there. But why is that discrimination
> between students? There are several students who don't know about this
> incident, neither outsiders. I think this kind of irregularities don't show
> good image of us. If you people will do such indiscrimination then where
> shall we go?
>
>            Dept. HOD also knows about that, but still he did not take any
> action. But i have hope from you, head of student body. Don't let us to
> disclose this issue to go to others and spoil our image. And don't let
> student and outsiders to raise this issue.
>
> Hopefully you would intervene in this matter and will do justice with us.
>
> Thanking you in anticipation,
> Yours faithfully,
> IIT Madras student.
>
>

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<div>Robin,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Please see this mail. It is about you, A very serious accusation.</div=
>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>swarup</div>
<div><br><br>=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From:=
 <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Dr. V.Jagadeesh Kumar</b> <span dir=3D"ltr">=
<<a href=3D"mailto:vjkumar@ee.iitm.ac.in">vjkumar@ee.iitm.ac.in</a>><=
/span><br>
Date: Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:51 AM<br>Subject: Re: B.Tech Project&#39;s irre=
gularities in Electrical Department<br>To: IITMstudent1 Student <<a href=
=3D"mailto:iitmstudent1@gmail.com">iitmstudent1@gmail.com</a>>, "Dr=
. Mahesh Kumar" <<a href=3D"mailto:mahesh@ee.iitm.ac.in">mahesh@ee.=
iitm.ac.in</a>>, "Dr. Shanthi Swarup" <<a href=3D"mailto:sw=
arup@ee.iitm.ac.in">swarup@ee.iitm.ac.in</a>><br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:director@iitm.ac.in">director@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=
=3D"mailto:dydirector@iitm.ac.in">dydirector@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"mai=
lto:dacoffice@iitm.ac.in">dacoffice@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:dos@i=
itm.ac.in">dos@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:ananth@iitm.ac.in">ananth@=
iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:sriram@iitm.ac.in">sriram@iitm.ac.in</a>,=
 <a href=3D"mailto:rsreddy@iitm.ac.in">rsreddy@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"m=
ailto:kbram@iitm.ac.in">kbram@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:spush@iitm.=
ac.in">spush@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:damo@iitm.ac.in">damo@iitm.a=
c.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:gopalkr@iitm.ac.in">gopalkr@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a =
href=3D"mailto:murthy@iitm.ac.in">murthy@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:=
vkj@iitm.ac.in">vkj@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:rkkumar@iitm.ac.in">r=
kkumar@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:spv@iitm.ac.in">spv@iitm.ac.in</a>=
, <a href=3D"mailto:pkn@iitm.ac.in">pkn@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:s=
kbh@iitm.ac.in">skbh@iitm.ac.in</a><br>
<br><br>
<div>Dear anonymous student. </div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Please give me the details of the student who you say is privileged. A=
s far as as I am aware, a student has been transferred from Dr. Nagendra to=
 Professor Swarup and he still had not=A0submitted=A0the project thesis and=
 hence this accusation of showing favour is unfounded. I am copying this ma=
il to the the Project coordinator and the guide to take note of</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>HoD, EED IITM<br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 2:45 PM, IITMstudent1 Stu=
dent <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:iitmstudent1@gmail.com" target=
=3D"_blank">iitmstudent1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0=
px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid"><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From:=
 <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">IITMstudent1 Student</b> <span dir=3D"ltr">&=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:iitmstudent1@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">iitmstudent1=
@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
Date: Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 2:40 PM<br>Subject: B.Tech Project&#39;s irregula=
rities in Electrical Department<br>To: <a href=3D"mailto:director@iitm.ac.i=
n" target=3D"_blank">director@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:dydirector@=
iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">dydirector@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:=
dacoffice@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">dacoffice@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=
=3D"mailto:dos@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">dos@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D=
"mailto:ananth@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">ananth@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a href=
=3D"mailto:sriram@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">sriram@iitm.ac.in</a>, <a h=
ref=3D"mailto:rsreddy@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">rsreddy@iitm.ac.in</a>,=
 <a href=3D"mailto:kbram@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">kbram@iitm.ac.in</a>=
, <a href=3D"mailto:spush@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">spush@iitm.ac.in</a=
>, <a href=3D"mailto:damo@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">damo@iitm.ac.in</a>=
, <a href=3D"mailto:gopalkr@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">gopalkr@iitm.ac.i=
n</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:murthy@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">murthy@iitm.a=
c.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:vkj@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">vkj@iitm.ac.i=
n</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:rkkumar@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">rkkumar@iitm=
.ac.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:spv@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">spv@iitm.ac=
.in</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:pkn@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">pkn@iitm.ac.in=
</a>, <a href=3D"mailto:skbh@iitm.ac.in" target=3D"_blank">skbh@iitm.ac.in<=
/a><br>
<br><br>Respected Sir,=20
<div>=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0I am a student of Electr=
ical Department at our institute. I want to mention about irregularities in=
 conduction of B.tech projects in Electrical Department and how are they=A0=
discriminating between students.</div>

<div><br></div>
<div>1) =A0Sir, in our department some students are getting 6 months extens=
ion, if they have not done any work on their project. While some <b>special=
 students</b> are given special offers to <b>finish their whole new BTP in =
1 month.</b></div>

<div><br></div>
<div>2) In=A0February,=A0when i went to one of the prof of our department t=
o change my BTP, he said i am not allowed to do it now because its too late=
. He said even <b>if i want to change my BTP i will have to stay back here =
for one more semester</b>. And i am staying back now.</div>

<div><br></div>
<div>3) Now just after crossing the date of viva reviews,=A0one of electric=
al department student changed his BTP prof and went to that another prof an=
d <b>he is allowed him to finish his newly taken BTP in month. BTP was not =
even in same field. It was totally different then previous one. But still h=
e got=A0favor=A0of prof. I think there was something special in him which w=
e don&#39;t have.</b></div>

<div><br></div>
<div>4) On one hand our institute is said to be very strict on academics re=
gulations (for student like us) and for others, (like him) it is very lenie=
nt. What ever may be situation, a student has to work on his BTP/DDP for at=
 least one year. And in such type of case he will have to stay back for one=
 more semester at least. How can you people ask some of students to work fo=
r whole year on BTP and on failing, giving them extension, whlie allowing o=
thers to finish it in few days. It is totally unacceptable.=A0</div>

<div><br></div>
<div>5) Changing a new BTP should be considered as taking it totally new an=
d one should be asked to work for at least one semester on it.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>6) I think you know rules enough in this regard.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>7) He is also left with one more course to finish.</div>
<div>=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0</div>
<div>=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <b>It is not a case of failure. He =
changed his BTP after end of final semester. And still he is allowed to fin=
ish his BTP in only one month.</b></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>5) This is not only one case of this department. Some student also cha=
nged their BTP only 1 month before semester ending under same prof. But why=
 is this=A0discrimination between students? If student is allowed to change=
 his BTP after semester end, then why other students are forced to work for=
 one year.</div>

<div><br></div>
<div>I just want proper justice on this incident. Either all student, who g=
ot one semester=A0extension, should be allowed to finish their project in 1=
 one month or all (who didn&#39;t do anything till semester end and even ch=
anged their BTP) should stay back here for one more semester. <b>Or else th=
is student to stay back for one more semester, like us.</b></div>

<div><br></div>
<div>We also got job, we also want to join there. But why is that discrimin=
ation between students? There are several students who don&#39;t know about=
 this incident, neither outsiders. I think this kind of irregularities don&=
#39;t show good image of us. If you people will do such indiscrimination th=
en where shall we go?</div>

<div><br></div>
<div>=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Dept. HOD also knows about that, but still he d=
id not take any action. But i have hope from you, head of student body. Don=
&#39;t let us to disclose this issue to go to others and spoil our image. A=
nd don&#39;t let student and outsiders to raise this issue.</div>

<div><br></div>
<div>Hopefully you would intervene in this matter and will do justice with =
us.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Thanking you in anticipation,</div>
<div>Yours faithfully,</div>
<div>IIT Madras student.</div></div><br></blockquote></div><font color=3D"#=
888888"><br></font></div>

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