Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:14 PM
How long have you been using Catalyst?
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:14 PM
uhm
i used it for 2 days and then banned and on the other account like 5 hours and banned
but i found an exploit with the cheat :p
like very big one
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:15 PM
Public cheats man..
Oh what kinda exploit :open_mouth:
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:15 PM
i can make it so the cheat able to be shared lol
the cheats usually are set on HWID
and if u spoof the HWID to the same as the owners and try to access the hack
it should work as it will think thats the owners pc
You understand me?
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:16 PM
Yeah have you testet it though?
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:16 PM
works with any cheat :p
yeah kind of lol
i spoofed my hwid and tried to access the hack, it didn't let me cus it said that i am trying to access it from a different pc
so i spoofed back to my original and it worked fine
means if i spoof others it should work fine for them
so if 1 user buys the cheat he can give out to 9999999999999999999999 people :p
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:17 PM
I doubt with private cheats because its slot - and if you log in the same account in the same time with different IP-Adresses, but with public its to much to track I guess
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:17 PM
cheats dont work with ip
because ip's can be changed
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:17 PM
If the developers went in to track it they probably would have found it - you have to log in the loader right?
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:17 PM
so is with mac addresses
thats why they work only for HWID
HWID is better than both ip and mac
if you able to set a cheat with HWID security
then u can easily spoof and access on different pc
one reason they dont have it with ip cus they can change
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:18 PM
Yeah sure but you have to log in the loader right?
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:18 PM
changing the ip can fuck up the hack and customer services would be flooded
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:18 PM
They can easily track how many users is in the same account
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:18 PM
yes u have too
not rly
login is a server part
the hack is client part
client part can be exploited
while server side cannot cus its taking data from a server
and giving it out to the client
client is performing things while u can say the server is like the body of everything going on
its like the mind
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:20 PM
Many of the private cheats are actually serversided, atleast PerfectAim
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:20 PM
artificalaiming, catalyst, perfectaim invitius and almost all
but they still have it on HWID
cus thats the only thing they can do to make sure its not shareable
but spoofing HWID isn't hard as it seems but people dumb enough to not know what this is
its pretty much getting a hack free and u can even sell it lol
cracking the client while is obsufcated can be a bit tricky
but its very possible
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:21 PM
Interesting I do not have enough knowledge on this subject - but I logging in on the same users mulitple times at the same time in differeent frames will trigger
some kind of redflag at the developer
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:22 PM
Wont trigger anything unless if the HWID isnt same as the first pc that launched the hack
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:22 PM
That is why they have a loader - you cant sign in the loader if you do not have internet access
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:22 PM
AKA u can say the "master HWID"
the hacks only set on HWID
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:23 PM
Yeah I know about the HWID spoofing - but say this scenario
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:23 PM
HWID = Hardware id / serial id
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:23 PM
Reneable is logged in at the same time 2x times from two different IP
from the Loader
Dont you think that is suspisious?
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:23 PM
not really
because thats the part of a hack that uses a VPN
Hacks dont detect ips cus of VPNS
ip can be changed and access from 2 accounts can trick the server into 1 user accessing the VPN(edited)
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:24 PM
Hmm alright seems to good to be true
But I dont know man
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:25 PM
exploits are always good to be true :p
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:25 PM
Private cheats have slots - so if they are seeing more than 50 people active on the cheats
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:25 PM
in fact not many people know about this or didnt come to mind which is stupid
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:25 PM
It has to trigger
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:25 PM
people only think of "i want this cheat"
but there is one downside into this method
if the HWID is flagged
then rip
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:26 PM
Anyways I think private cheats should stay private
That is way the detection-rate is so low
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:26 PM
also u didnt seem to understand me, if many people log into one account its completely fine, try opening a forum and login into it
then ask a friend to open the same forum and login into it too
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:26 PM
Yeah now ask the developer to see your logs
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:26 PM
with the same name and password
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:27 PM
Two different IP adresses
different timezones
e.t.c
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:27 PM
correct, but WHAT IF its a vpn?
+ the hack dosnt work like a forum
most devs dont add a feature into the hack to log accounts logged in
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:27 PM
Its connected to the forum database somehow
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:27 PM
no'
its SQL
database sends info to SQL and the hack recieves the information
like for example i buy a hack
the database sends to SQL
to the server
the server takes the information and adds it to their priviledged list
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:29 PM
Although this is all an estimation of how the cheats works.
The developers may have thought of this exploit before anyways and done some security
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:29 PM
once its in there the hack should work fine in the purchased account
Philip Nguyen - Last Sunday at 2:29 PM
You dont know before you have reverse-enginereed the cheats
And that is the developers job - reverse engineer rust, csgo e.t.c
renewablezip - Last Sunday at 2:30 PM
if they done some security ask urself, why does catalyst allow such a thing + even the most famous website which was around for while AKA artificalaiming
hacks can only function on HWID, trust me on that
i have done plenty of research :p