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  3. <i> ( Whirring )</i>
  4.  
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  7. Don't be filming
  8. my passwords.
  9.  
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  12. <i> I used to have</i>
  13. <i> a shirt in high school</i>
  14.  
  15. 4
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  17. <i> that said</i>
  18. <i> "technology must be used</i>
  19. <i> to liberate the individual."</i>
  20.  
  21. 5
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  23. <i> And I didn't really know</i>
  24. <i> what it meant for years,</i>
  25.  
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  28. <i> 'cause I didn't</i>
  29. <i> really think about it.</i>
  30.  
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  33. <i> But today I look back</i>
  34. <i> and I'm like, "oh man,</i>
  35. <i> hell yeah, I like that shirt."</i>
  36.  
  37. 8
  38. 00:00:38,672 --> 00:00:41,774
  39. <i> I'm glad I wore that shirt,</i>
  40. <i> 'cause it's how I really</i>
  41. <i> feel today.</i>
  42.  
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  45. My name is Daniel mross.
  46.  
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  49. Today is may 3rd, 2012.
  50.  
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  53. <i> I go through college</i>
  54. <i> and watch the Internet come</i>
  55.  
  56. 12
  57. 00:00:51,986 --> 00:00:54,286
  58. <i> and all these</i>
  59. <i> different things.</i>
  60. <i> And now, like, bitcoin,</i>
  61.  
  62. 13
  63. 00:00:54,288 --> 00:00:57,489
  64. <i> it's just a single</i>
  65. <i> technology built on top</i>
  66. <i> of the Internet,</i>
  67.  
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  69. 00:00:57,491 --> 00:00:59,124
  70. <i> but it's so fascinating</i>
  71. <i> because there's so many</i>
  72.  
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  74. 00:00:59,126 --> 00:01:01,660
  75. <i> freaking things</i>
  76. <i> you can do with it.</i>
  77.  
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  79. 00:01:01,662 --> 00:01:03,162
  80. <i> It's also just</i>
  81. <i> a big experiment.</i>
  82.  
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  84. 00:01:03,164 --> 00:01:04,663
  85. <i> There's no guarantees</i>
  86. <i> with it.</i>
  87.  
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  89. 00:01:06,299 --> 00:01:08,434
  90. <i> We might just all be</i>
  91. <i> wasting our time...</i>
  92.  
  93. 19
  94. 00:01:09,903 --> 00:01:11,437
  95. <i> Exploring concepts</i>
  96. <i> and ideas.</i>
  97.  
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  99. 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:13,739
  100. <i> It's at this crossroads</i>
  101. <i> of technology</i>
  102.  
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  104. 00:01:13,741 --> 00:01:16,341
  105. <i> and philosophy</i>
  106. <i> and politics and everything.</i>
  107.  
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  110. <i> Just be a part of it.</i>
  111. <i> It's fun.</i>
  112.  
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  115. <i> It's crazy though,</i>
  116. <i> but it's fun.</i>
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  120. Nick mross:
  121. <i> Um, first question is</i>
  122.  
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  125. <i> what is bitcoin?</i>
  126.  
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  128. 00:01:28,589 --> 00:01:30,722
  129. - ( Chuckles )
  130. -<i> ( Dramatic music playing )</i>
  131.  
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  134. Daniel:
  135. <i> I can't tell you</i>
  136. <i> what bitcoin is</i>
  137.  
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  140. <i> in just a few sentences.</i>
  141.  
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  143. 00:01:36,430 --> 00:01:39,431
  144. <i> It takes time</i>
  145. <i> to understand it,</i>
  146.  
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  149. <i> the same way it took</i>
  150. <i> people time to understand</i>
  151.  
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  153. 00:01:41,669 --> 00:01:43,135
  154. <i> what the Internet was</i>
  155.  
  156. 32
  157. 00:01:43,137 --> 00:01:45,003
  158. <i> back in 1994.</i>
  159.  
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  162. That little mark with the "a"
  163. and then the ring around it.
  164.  
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  167. - "At"?
  168. - See, that's what I said.
  169.  
  170. 35
  171. 00:01:50,111 --> 00:01:52,811
  172. - Mm-hmm.
  173. - Katie said she thought
  174. it was "about."
  175.  
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  178. - Katie:<i> Yeah. </i>
  179. - Elizabeth vargas:
  180. <i> Oh, Internet is...</i>
  181.  
  182. 37
  183. 00:01:56,183 --> 00:01:58,283
  184. -<i> That massive</i>
  185. <i> computer network... </i>
  186. - Katie:<i> Right.</i>
  187.  
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  190. <i> ...the one that's becoming</i>
  191. <i> really big now.</i>
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  195. Allison, can you explain
  196. what Internet is?
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  200. Daniel:
  201. <i> When the Internet</i>
  202. <i> was taking off,</i>
  203.  
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  206. <i> I was in college</i>
  207. <i> at Virginia tech</i>
  208.  
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  210. 00:02:08,329 --> 00:02:10,229
  211. <i> studying computer science.</i>
  212.  
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  215. <i> Looking back,</i>
  216. <i> it's amazing to think about</i>
  217.  
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  219. 00:02:13,167 --> 00:02:15,167
  220. <i> how much the world</i>
  221. <i> was changing.</i>
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  225. <i> Hey, Dan,</i>
  226. <i> ready for the game?</i>
  227.  
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  230. I'm just finishing up here
  231. with my new kayaking friends.
  232.  
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  235. Kayaking friends
  236. on your computer?
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  240. Yeah, I just got
  241. America online.
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  245. Daniel:
  246. <i> That same type of innovation</i>
  247. <i> is happening again</i>
  248.  
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  251. <i> with bitcoin.</i>
  252.  
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  255. It's the smartest people
  256. in the room
  257.  
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  260. that are
  261. the most excited about this.
  262. So what are they seeing?
  263.  
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  266. Daniel:
  267. <i> The Internet changed</i>
  268. <i> the way the world communicates</i>
  269.  
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  272. <i> bitcoin changes</i>
  273. <i> the way money works.</i>
  274.  
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  277. You can basically put
  278. a bank in your pocket.
  279.  
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  282. Psst!
  283.  
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  285. 00:02:42,796 --> 00:02:44,463
  286. Wanna buy some
  287. secret stuff?
  288.  
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  290. 00:02:44,465 --> 00:02:46,131
  291. There is now a new note
  292.  
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  295. that people are starting
  296. to talk about--
  297.  
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  300. the bitcoin.
  301.  
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  304. The money of the future.
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  308. Daniel:
  309. <i> Bitcoin was created to provide</i>
  310.  
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  313. <i> an alternative</i>
  314. <i> to the banking system.</i>
  315.  
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  317. 00:02:58,012 --> 00:02:59,011
  318. George w. Bush:
  319. <i> We're in the midst</i>
  320.  
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  323. <i> of a serious financial crisis</i>
  324.  
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  326. 00:03:01,148 --> 00:03:02,681
  327. and the federal government
  328. is responding
  329.  
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  332. with decisive action.
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  336. Daniel:
  337. <i> Unlike most currencies,</i>
  338.  
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  341. <i> bitcoins are issued according</i>
  342. <i> to a set of fixed rules.</i>
  343.  
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  345. 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,761
  346. <i> The idea was to create</i>
  347. <i> money whose value</i>
  348.  
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  350. 00:03:15,763 --> 00:03:19,298
  351. <i> couldn't be manipulated</i>
  352. <i> by a central authority.</i>
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  356. The government, no matter
  357. how many guns they draw,
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  361. cannot change
  362. a mathematical problem.
  363.  
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  365. 00:03:24,338 --> 00:03:26,939
  366. <i> They can point their guns</i>
  367. <i> at "two plus two,"</i>
  368.  
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  370. 00:03:26,941 --> 00:03:28,006
  371. <i> but it's always</i>
  372. <i> gonna equal four.</i>
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  376. Daniel:
  377. <i> It's fascinating to imagine</i>
  378.  
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  380. 00:03:34,381 --> 00:03:37,115
  381. <i> what it means to have</i>
  382. <i> global decentralized money.</i>
  383.  
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  385. 00:03:38,785 --> 00:03:40,018
  386. <i> And that's what's happening.</i>
  387.  
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  389. 00:03:48,795 --> 00:03:50,529
  390. <i> ( Instrumental music playing )</i>
  391.  
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  394. ( Babbles )
  395.  
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  397. 00:04:12,820 --> 00:04:15,454
  398. My five-year-old's birthday.
  399.  
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  402. First round
  403. of burgers is ready.
  404.  
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  406. 00:04:17,091 --> 00:04:19,091
  407. Second round is
  408. going on in a second.
  409.  
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  412. First round
  413. of burgers is ready!
  414.  
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  416. 00:04:22,263 --> 00:04:23,729
  417. ( People chattering )
  418.  
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  421. First round.
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  425. Eliza mross:
  426. <i> Dan has always been</i>
  427. <i> an idea guy.</i>
  428.  
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  431. <i> Bitcoin is the perfect</i>
  432. <i> combination</i>
  433.  
  434. 89
  435. 00:04:31,438 --> 00:04:33,905
  436. of how can
  437. I change the world
  438. and make it better,
  439.  
  440. 90
  441. 00:04:33,907 --> 00:04:36,141
  442. but how can
  443. I also be a nerd?
  444.  
  445. 91
  446. 00:04:36,143 --> 00:04:38,510
  447. <i> So mostly I've just been</i>
  448. <i> supporting him</i>
  449.  
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  451. 00:04:38,512 --> 00:04:41,013
  452. <i> in this craziness.</i>
  453.  
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  456. Daniel:
  457. <i> Eliza and I met in college,</i>
  458.  
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  460. 00:04:45,853 --> 00:04:48,086
  461. <i> and we've been married</i>
  462. <i> for seven years.</i>
  463.  
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  465. 00:04:48,088 --> 00:04:50,355
  466. <i> We live in Pittsburgh,</i>
  467. <i> where I'm from,</i>
  468.  
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  470. 00:04:50,357 --> 00:04:52,324
  471. <i> and we have three boys,</i>
  472.  
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  474. 00:04:52,326 --> 00:04:53,925
  475. <i> I've spent most of my career</i>
  476.  
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  478. 00:04:53,927 --> 00:04:56,628
  479. <i> as a database administrator.</i>
  480.  
  481. 99
  482. 00:04:56,630 --> 00:04:59,831
  483. <i> But for the past</i>
  484. <i> two years, I've been</i>
  485. <i> consumed with bitcoin.</i>
  486.  
  487. 100
  488. 00:05:01,768 --> 00:05:05,671
  489. <i> Bitcoins come</i>
  490. <i> into existence through</i>
  491. <i> a process called mining.</i>
  492.  
  493. 101
  494. 00:05:05,673 --> 00:05:08,507
  495. <i> I build computers</i>
  496. <i> to mine for bitcoins.</i>
  497.  
  498. 102
  499. 00:05:10,643 --> 00:05:13,011
  500. I'm glad that
  501. it's finally getting
  502. a little bit cooler out.
  503.  
  504. 103
  505. 00:05:13,013 --> 00:05:15,781
  506. My wife won't be as angry
  507. that the basement is so hot.
  508.  
  509. 104
  510. 00:05:17,483 --> 00:05:20,952
  511. I've still got a bunch of mining
  512. rigs running right now.
  513.  
  514. 105
  515. 00:05:20,954 --> 00:05:23,121
  516. Actually they're
  517. right down here, if you
  518. wanna go take a look.
  519.  
  520. 106
  521. 00:05:32,532 --> 00:05:34,232
  522. Here they are.
  523.  
  524. 107
  525. 00:05:36,703 --> 00:05:38,937
  526. <i> So what is bitcoin?</i>
  527.  
  528. 108
  529. 00:05:38,939 --> 00:05:41,773
  530. <i> Bitcoin is</i>
  531. <i> a revolutionary technology</i>
  532.  
  533. 109
  534. 00:05:41,775 --> 00:05:44,609
  535. <i> that enables</i>
  536. <i> a new way to send payments</i>
  537. <i> over the Internet.</i>
  538.  
  539. 110
  540. 00:05:44,611 --> 00:05:47,679
  541. - ( Beeps )
  542. -<i> You can think of it as</i>
  543. <i> an open accounting system</i>
  544.  
  545. 111
  546. 00:05:47,681 --> 00:05:50,182
  547. <i> where thousands of computers</i>
  548. <i> all over the world</i>
  549.  
  550. 112
  551. 00:05:50,184 --> 00:05:54,119
  552. <i> work together to track</i>
  553. <i> ownership of digital tokens</i>
  554. <i> called bitcoins.</i>
  555.  
  556. 113
  557. 00:05:54,121 --> 00:05:56,355
  558. <i> When you send</i>
  559. <i> someone bitcoins,</i>
  560.  
  561. 114
  562. 00:05:56,357 --> 00:05:59,424
  563. <i> the transaction is broadcast</i>
  564. <i> to the entire network.</i>
  565.  
  566. 115
  567. 00:05:59,426 --> 00:06:01,626
  568. <i> After it's verified,</i>
  569.  
  570. 116
  571. 00:06:01,628 --> 00:06:03,161
  572. <i> it's recorded</i>
  573. <i> in a public ledger</i>
  574.  
  575. 117
  576. 00:06:03,163 --> 00:06:04,863
  577. <i> called the blockchain.</i>
  578.  
  579. 118
  580. 00:06:04,865 --> 00:06:06,431
  581. <i> The blockchain</i>
  582. <i> contains a record</i>
  583.  
  584. 119
  585. 00:06:06,433 --> 00:06:08,600
  586. <i> of every bitcoin</i>
  587. <i> transaction that has occurred</i>
  588.  
  589. 120
  590. 00:06:08,602 --> 00:06:10,202
  591. <i> since the system began,</i>
  592.  
  593. 121
  594. 00:06:10,204 --> 00:06:12,170
  595. <i> and it's shared</i>
  596. <i> and maintained on the network,</i>
  597.  
  598. 122
  599. 00:06:12,172 --> 00:06:14,172
  600. <i> so everyone keeps the books,</i>
  601. <i> so to speak.</i>
  602.  
  603. 123
  604. 00:06:15,675 --> 00:06:17,943
  605. <i> Most currencies are issued</i>
  606. <i> by a central authority</i>
  607.  
  608. 124
  609. 00:06:17,945 --> 00:06:20,278
  610. <i> that controls</i>
  611. <i> the money supply.</i>
  612.  
  613. 125
  614. 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:22,280
  615. <i> Bitcoin is</i>
  616. <i> a peer-to-peer system,</i>
  617.  
  618. 126
  619. 00:06:22,282 --> 00:06:24,282
  620. <i> so there is</i>
  621. <i> no central authority.</i>
  622.  
  623. 127
  624. 00:06:24,284 --> 00:06:27,352
  625. <i> Instead bitcoins are</i>
  626. <i> issued to users</i>
  627.  
  628. 128
  629. 00:06:27,354 --> 00:06:29,855
  630. <i> who help process transactions</i>
  631. <i> in the network.</i>
  632.  
  633. 129
  634. 00:06:29,857 --> 00:06:33,125
  635. <i> This is known</i>
  636. <i> as bitcoin mining.</i>
  637.  
  638. 130
  639. 00:06:33,127 --> 00:06:35,627
  640. <i> Bitcoin miners are</i>
  641. <i> specialized computers</i>
  642.  
  643. 131
  644. 00:06:35,629 --> 00:06:37,295
  645. <i> that do the work</i>
  646. <i> required to verify</i>
  647.  
  648. 132
  649. 00:06:37,297 --> 00:06:39,765
  650. <i> and record transactions</i>
  651. <i> in the blockchain.</i>
  652.  
  653. 133
  654. 00:06:39,767 --> 00:06:41,533
  655. <i> As a reward for their work,</i>
  656.  
  657. 134
  658. 00:06:41,535 --> 00:06:43,502
  659. <i> the miners earn bitcoins,</i>
  660.  
  661. 135
  662. 00:06:43,504 --> 00:06:46,805
  663. <i> and this is how new bitcoins</i>
  664. <i> are released into circulation.</i>
  665.  
  666. 136
  667. 00:06:46,807 --> 00:06:48,373
  668. <i> The system is programmed</i>
  669.  
  670. 137
  671. 00:06:48,375 --> 00:06:51,209
  672. <i> so that only</i>
  673. <i> 21 million bitcoins</i>
  674. <i> will ever exist.</i>
  675.  
  676. 138
  677. 00:06:51,211 --> 00:06:52,778
  678. <i> And as time goes by,</i>
  679.  
  680. 139
  681. 00:06:52,780 --> 00:06:54,446
  682. <i> the mining reward decreases.</i>
  683.  
  684. 140
  685. 00:06:54,448 --> 00:06:56,915
  686. <i> The result is</i>
  687. <i> a predictable supply</i>
  688.  
  689. 141
  690. 00:06:56,917 --> 00:06:58,617
  691. <i> that's governed</i>
  692. <i> by scarcity,</i>
  693.  
  694. 142
  695. 00:06:58,619 --> 00:07:02,087
  696. <i> making bitcoins</i>
  697. <i> somewhat like a digital gold.</i>
  698.  
  699. 143
  700. 00:07:02,089 --> 00:07:04,756
  701. <i> It's the first currency</i>
  702. <i> of the Internet.</i>
  703.  
  704. 144
  705. 00:07:04,758 --> 00:07:06,591
  706. <i> And everyone</i>
  707. <i> is free to use it.</i>
  708.  
  709. 145
  710. 00:07:06,593 --> 00:07:09,694
  711. <i> With bitcoin, you can send</i>
  712. <i> any amount of money</i>
  713.  
  714. 146
  715. 00:07:09,696 --> 00:07:11,963
  716. <i> to anyone anywhere</i>
  717. <i> in the world</i>
  718.  
  719. 147
  720. 00:07:11,965 --> 00:07:13,865
  721. <i> as easily</i>
  722. <i> as sending an email.</i>
  723.  
  724. 148
  725. 00:07:18,004 --> 00:07:20,472
  726. <i> My brother Nick</i>
  727. <i> is a filmmaker.</i>
  728.  
  729. 149
  730. 00:07:20,474 --> 00:07:23,608
  731. <i> After hearing me</i>
  732. <i> talk about bitcoin</i>
  733. <i> incessantly for months,</i>
  734.  
  735. 150
  736. 00:07:23,610 --> 00:07:26,111
  737. <i> we decided to start</i>
  738. <i> documenting things.</i>
  739.  
  740. 151
  741. 00:07:26,113 --> 00:07:28,980
  742. Nick:
  743. <i> Hey, I don't think</i>
  744. <i> we'll need the small camera.</i>
  745.  
  746. 152
  747. 00:07:28,982 --> 00:07:31,750
  748. - It can't hurt.
  749. - Nick:<i> No, I'd rather</i>
  750. <i> just leave it behind.</i>
  751.  
  752. 153
  753. 00:07:31,752 --> 00:07:33,819
  754. I have so much equipment.
  755. Do you mind?
  756.  
  757. 154
  758. 00:07:33,821 --> 00:07:35,654
  759. Damn, you really
  760. cramped it up, huh?
  761.  
  762. 155
  763. 00:07:35,656 --> 00:07:36,955
  764. Not that bad.
  765. What do you mean?
  766.  
  767. 156
  768. 00:07:36,957 --> 00:07:39,491
  769. - Jeez.
  770. - Dude, they're right there.
  771.  
  772. 157
  773. 00:07:39,493 --> 00:07:41,293
  774. Right in the back.
  775. Right there.
  776.  
  777. 158
  778. 00:07:41,295 --> 00:07:43,962
  779. Daniel:
  780. <i> I was convinced that bitcoin</i>
  781. <i> was going to be huge,</i>
  782.  
  783. 159
  784. 00:07:43,964 --> 00:07:46,598
  785. <i> and I knew there were a lot</i>
  786. <i> of others like me out there.</i>
  787.  
  788. 160
  789. 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,167
  790. Zipped my keys in my pocket,
  791. so I don't forget 'em later.
  792.  
  793. 161
  794. 00:07:54,073 --> 00:07:58,243
  795. Bitcoin was created
  796. by what's believed
  797. to be a pseudonym,
  798.  
  799. 162
  800. 00:07:58,245 --> 00:08:00,779
  801. a guy named
  802. satoshi nakamoto.
  803.  
  804. 163
  805. 00:08:00,781 --> 00:08:03,648
  806. Invented in '09
  807. by a fictitious person
  808.  
  809. 164
  810. 00:08:03,650 --> 00:08:05,784
  811. named satoshi nakamoto...
  812.  
  813. 165
  814. 00:08:05,786 --> 00:08:07,786
  815. Daniel:
  816. <i> On Halloween 2008,</i>
  817.  
  818. 166
  819. 00:08:07,788 --> 00:08:10,255
  820. <i> someone using the name</i>
  821. <i> satoshi nakamoto.</i>
  822.  
  823. 167
  824. 00:08:10,257 --> 00:08:12,090
  825. <i> Posted on a cryptography</i>
  826. <i> mailing list...</i>
  827.  
  828. 168
  829. 00:08:17,797 --> 00:08:20,265
  830. <i> The post contained</i>
  831. <i> a link to a white paper</i>
  832.  
  833. 169
  834. 00:08:20,267 --> 00:08:23,702
  835. <i> in which satoshi proposed</i>
  836. <i> a new type of payment system</i>
  837. <i> for the Internet.</i>
  838.  
  839. 170
  840. 00:08:23,704 --> 00:08:26,638
  841. <i> It described a protocol that</i>
  842. <i> used peer-to-peer networking,</i>
  843.  
  844. 171
  845. 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,241
  846. <i> proof of work</i>
  847. <i> and public key cryptography.</i>
  848.  
  849. 172
  850. 00:08:31,344 --> 00:08:34,346
  851. <i> For years, computer scientists</i>
  852. <i> had been experimenting</i>
  853.  
  854. 173
  855. 00:08:34,348 --> 00:08:37,349
  856. <i> with these technologies</i>
  857. <i> to create digital money.</i>
  858.  
  859. 174
  860. 00:08:37,351 --> 00:08:39,718
  861. <i> But satoshi discovered</i>
  862. <i> a way to combine them</i>
  863.  
  864. 175
  865. 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,353
  866. <i> that had never</i>
  867. <i> been done before.</i>
  868.  
  869. 176
  870. 00:08:41,355 --> 00:08:44,789
  871. <i> In doing so,</i>
  872. <i> he invented bitcoin.</i>
  873.  
  874. 177
  875. 00:08:44,791 --> 00:08:47,726
  876. <i> There are no records</i>
  877. <i> of nakamoto's existence</i>
  878.  
  879. 178
  880. 00:08:47,728 --> 00:08:49,427
  881. <i> prior to the creation</i>
  882. <i> of bitcoin.</i>
  883.  
  884. 179
  885. 00:08:49,429 --> 00:08:51,029
  886. <i> On his profile page,</i>
  887.  
  888. 180
  889. 00:08:51,031 --> 00:08:52,964
  890. <i> he claimed to be</i>
  891. <i> a 34-year-old man</i>
  892.  
  893. 181
  894. 00:08:52,966 --> 00:08:54,699
  895. <i> living in Japan.</i>
  896.  
  897. 182
  898. 00:08:54,701 --> 00:08:57,536
  899. <i> Although satoshi nakamoto</i>
  900. <i> is a Japanese name,</i>
  901.  
  902. 183
  903. 00:08:57,538 --> 00:09:00,405
  904. <i> he wrote in perfect English</i>
  905. <i> when communicating online</i>
  906.  
  907. 184
  908. 00:09:00,407 --> 00:09:02,841
  909. <i> and went through great lengths</i>
  910. <i> to keep his identity unknown.</i>
  911.  
  912. 185
  913. 00:09:04,143 --> 00:09:06,611
  914. <i> Nonetheless,</i>
  915. <i> programmers and cryptographers</i>
  916.  
  917. 186
  918. 00:09:06,613 --> 00:09:09,948
  919. <i> all across the world</i>
  920. <i> recognized the brilliance</i>
  921. <i> of satoshi's design.</i>
  922.  
  923. 187
  924. 00:09:09,950 --> 00:09:13,585
  925. <i> And began collaborating</i>
  926. <i> with him to further</i>
  927. <i> develop bitcoin.</i>
  928.  
  929. 188
  930. 00:09:13,587 --> 00:09:15,820
  931. <i> In October of 2009,</i>
  932.  
  933. 189
  934. 00:09:15,822 --> 00:09:17,589
  935. <i> the first exchange rate</i>
  936. <i> was published.</i>
  937.  
  938. 190
  939. 00:09:17,591 --> 00:09:22,294
  940. <i> Listing the value</i>
  941. <i> of 1,309 bitcoins at $1.</i>
  942.  
  943. 191
  944. 00:09:22,296 --> 00:09:24,863
  945. <i> Bitcoins were cheap,</i>
  946. <i>and through the following year,</i>
  947.  
  948. 192
  949. 00:09:24,865 --> 00:09:27,032
  950. <i> they continued to trade</i>
  951. <i> for fractions of a cent.</i>
  952.  
  953. 193
  954. 00:09:28,301 --> 00:09:29,734
  955. <i> In the spring of 2010,</i>
  956.  
  957. 194
  958. 00:09:29,736 --> 00:09:31,503
  959. <i> a Florida man named laszlo</i>
  960.  
  961. 195
  962. 00:09:31,505 --> 00:09:33,939
  963. <i> decided to try</i>
  964. <i> using his bitcoins</i>
  965. <i> to purchase something.</i>
  966.  
  967. 196
  968. 00:09:33,941 --> 00:09:36,241
  969. <i> He offered 10,000 bitcoins</i>
  970.  
  971. 197
  972. 00:09:36,243 --> 00:09:38,276
  973. <i> to anyone who would</i>
  974. <i> buy him pizza.</i>
  975.  
  976. 198
  977. 00:09:38,278 --> 00:09:40,011
  978. <i> A man in London accepted</i>
  979.  
  980. 199
  981. 00:09:40,013 --> 00:09:41,680
  982. <i> and placed</i>
  983. <i> a long-distance phone call,</i>
  984.  
  985. 200
  986. 00:09:41,682 --> 00:09:44,015
  987. <i> ordering him two pizzas</i>
  988. <i> from papa John's.</i>
  989.  
  990. 201
  991. 00:09:44,017 --> 00:09:45,951
  992. <i> This is generally acknowledged</i>
  993.  
  994. 202
  995. 00:09:45,953 --> 00:09:49,020
  996. <i> as the first</i>
  997. <i> bitcoin transaction</i>
  998. <i> for a tangible good.</i>
  999.  
  1000. 203
  1001. 00:09:49,022 --> 00:09:50,989
  1002. <i> Bitcoin was</i>
  1003. <i> gaining momentum,</i>
  1004.  
  1005. 204
  1006. 00:09:50,991 --> 00:09:52,824
  1007. <i> but in order</i>
  1008. <i> for it to thrive</i>
  1009.  
  1010. 205
  1011. 00:09:52,826 --> 00:09:55,160
  1012. <i> the coins needed to be</i>
  1013. <i> more widely accessible.</i>
  1014.  
  1015. 206
  1016. 00:09:55,162 --> 00:09:58,430
  1017. <i> A Tokyo-based exchange</i>
  1018. <i> named mt. Gox was</i>
  1019.  
  1020. 207
  1021. 00:09:58,432 --> 00:10:00,832
  1022. <i> the first on the scene</i>
  1023. <i>to take hold of the marketplace</i>
  1024.  
  1025. 208
  1026. 00:10:00,834 --> 00:10:02,634
  1027. <i> and trading volume</i>
  1028. <i> started to pick up.</i>
  1029.  
  1030. 209
  1031. 00:10:02,636 --> 00:10:04,636
  1032. <i> By November 2010,</i>
  1033.  
  1034. 210
  1035. 00:10:04,638 --> 00:10:07,138
  1036. <i> already 4 million bitcoins</i>
  1037. <i> had been mined.</i>
  1038.  
  1039. 211
  1040. 00:10:07,140 --> 00:10:10,408
  1041. <i> And the exchange price</i>
  1042. <i>briefly spiked to 50¢ per coin.</i>
  1043.  
  1044. 212
  1045. 00:10:10,410 --> 00:10:13,812
  1046. <i> The market awoke and bitcoin</i>
  1047. <i> was starting to look like</i>
  1048.  
  1049. 213
  1050. 00:10:13,814 --> 00:10:16,815
  1051. <i> it might have real potential</i>
  1052. <i> as a currency.</i>
  1053.  
  1054. 214
  1055. 00:10:16,817 --> 00:10:19,651
  1056. His name is Julian Assange.
  1057.  
  1058. 215
  1059. 00:10:19,653 --> 00:10:21,586
  1060. <i> Assange and his colleagues</i>
  1061.  
  1062. 216
  1063. 00:10:21,588 --> 00:10:24,189
  1064. <i> collect confidential</i>
  1065. <i> information and then</i>
  1066. <i> make it public.</i>
  1067.  
  1068. 217
  1069. 00:10:24,191 --> 00:10:27,459
  1070. The release of 250,000
  1071. state department documents
  1072.  
  1073. 218
  1074. 00:10:27,461 --> 00:10:30,495
  1075. no doubt presents a serious
  1076. dilemma for this country.
  1077.  
  1078. 219
  1079. 00:10:30,497 --> 00:10:32,497
  1080. Daniel:
  1081. <i> Following a massive release</i>
  1082.  
  1083. 220
  1084. 00:10:32,499 --> 00:10:34,499
  1085. <i> of secret</i>
  1086. <i> U.S. diplomatic cables,</i>
  1087.  
  1088. 221
  1089. 00:10:34,501 --> 00:10:37,068
  1090. <i> donations to wikileaks</i>
  1091. <i> were blocked</i>
  1092.  
  1093. 222
  1094. 00:10:37,070 --> 00:10:39,671
  1095. <i> by bank of America,</i>
  1096. <i> visa, mastercard,</i>
  1097.  
  1098. 223
  1099. 00:10:39,673 --> 00:10:42,173
  1100. <i> PayPal and Western union.</i>
  1101.  
  1102. 224
  1103. 00:10:42,175 --> 00:10:45,043
  1104. <i> An article in "pc world"</i>
  1105. <i> suggested that bitcoin</i>
  1106.  
  1107. 225
  1108. 00:10:45,045 --> 00:10:46,611
  1109. <i> could be used</i>
  1110. <i> as a workaround</i>
  1111.  
  1112. 226
  1113. 00:10:46,613 --> 00:10:48,413
  1114. <i> to send donations</i>
  1115. <i> to wikileaks.</i>
  1116.  
  1117. 227
  1118. 00:10:48,415 --> 00:10:50,949
  1119. <i> One of satoshi's</i>
  1120. <i> last known posts</i>
  1121.  
  1122. 228
  1123. 00:10:50,951 --> 00:10:52,851
  1124. <i> was in response</i>
  1125. <i> to the article and stated...</i>
  1126.  
  1127. 229
  1128. 00:11:01,293 --> 00:11:02,994
  1129. <i> Shortly after that</i>
  1130.  
  1131. 230
  1132. 00:11:02,996 --> 00:11:04,829
  1133. <i> satoshi disappeared</i>
  1134. <i> from the forums</i>
  1135.  
  1136. 231
  1137. 00:11:04,831 --> 00:11:07,732
  1138. <i> and was never</i>
  1139. <i> heard from again.</i>
  1140.  
  1141. 232
  1142. 00:11:07,734 --> 00:11:11,569
  1143. <i> Two months later</i>
  1144. <i> the silk road anonymous</i>
  1145. <i> marketplace was launched.</i>
  1146.  
  1147. 233
  1148. 00:11:11,571 --> 00:11:13,938
  1149. <i> It functioned</i>
  1150. <i> as an online black market</i>
  1151.  
  1152. 234
  1153. 00:11:13,940 --> 00:11:15,840
  1154. <i> for drugs</i>
  1155. <i> and other illicit goods</i>
  1156.  
  1157. 235
  1158. 00:11:15,842 --> 00:11:17,742
  1159. <i> and used bitcoin</i>
  1160. <i> exclusively,</i>
  1161.  
  1162. 236
  1163. 00:11:17,744 --> 00:11:19,077
  1164. <i> because it made</i>
  1165. <i> the money trail</i>
  1166.  
  1167. 237
  1168. 00:11:19,079 --> 00:11:21,079
  1169. <i> nearly impossible</i>
  1170. <i> to trace.</i>
  1171.  
  1172. 238
  1173. 00:11:21,081 --> 00:11:23,148
  1174. <i> The silk road</i>
  1175. <i> caught the attention</i>
  1176.  
  1177. 239
  1178. 00:11:23,150 --> 00:11:25,150
  1179. <i> of New York senator</i>
  1180. <i> Charles schumer</i>
  1181.  
  1182. 240
  1183. 00:11:25,152 --> 00:11:26,985
  1184. <i> who was outraged</i>
  1185. <i> and publicly called</i>
  1186.  
  1187. 241
  1188. 00:11:26,987 --> 00:11:29,254
  1189. <i> for a crackdown</i>
  1190. <i> on the site.</i>
  1191.  
  1192. 242
  1193. 00:11:29,256 --> 00:11:32,190
  1194. Heroin, opium,
  1195. cannabis, ecstasy,
  1196.  
  1197. 243
  1198. 00:11:32,192 --> 00:11:33,825
  1199. - psychedelics, stimulants.
  1200. -<i> ( Camera clicks )</i>
  1201.  
  1202. 244
  1203. 00:11:33,827 --> 00:11:35,160
  1204. It's unbelievable.
  1205.  
  1206. 245
  1207. 00:11:35,162 --> 00:11:36,961
  1208. Daniel:
  1209. <i> Throughout all this,</i>
  1210.  
  1211. 246
  1212. 00:11:36,963 --> 00:11:38,797
  1213. <i> the exchange price</i>
  1214. <i> continued to climb.</i>
  1215.  
  1216. 247
  1217. 00:11:38,799 --> 00:11:41,099
  1218. <i> By February of 2011,</i>
  1219.  
  1220. 248
  1221. 00:11:41,101 --> 00:11:43,468
  1222. <i> bitcoin reached parity</i>
  1223. <i> with the U.S. dollar.</i>
  1224.  
  1225. 249
  1226. 00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:46,538
  1227. <i> Sparking an influx</i>
  1228. <i> of new users and speculators.</i>
  1229.  
  1230. 250
  1231. 00:11:46,540 --> 00:11:50,608
  1232. <i> By June the price had soared</i>
  1233. <i> to a peak of $31</i>
  1234.  
  1235. 251
  1236. 00:11:50,610 --> 00:11:52,811
  1237. <i> before it came</i>
  1238. <i> crashing down.</i>
  1239.  
  1240. 252
  1241. 00:11:52,813 --> 00:11:56,347
  1242. <i> As the market tanked,</i>
  1243. <i> the mt. Gox exchange</i>
  1244. <i> was hacked,</i>
  1245.  
  1246. 253
  1247. 00:11:56,349 --> 00:11:58,149
  1248. <i> further shaking</i>
  1249. <i> the confidence of investors</i>
  1250.  
  1251. 254
  1252. 00:11:58,151 --> 00:11:59,884
  1253. <i> and hammering the price</i>
  1254. <i> all the way down</i>
  1255.  
  1256. 255
  1257. 00:11:59,886 --> 00:12:01,986
  1258. <i> to the $2 range</i>
  1259. <i> by October.</i>
  1260.  
  1261. 256
  1262. 00:12:01,988 --> 00:12:04,923
  1263. <i> While bitcoin enthusiasts</i>
  1264. <i> kept hope,</i>
  1265.  
  1266. 257
  1267. 00:12:04,925 --> 00:12:07,092
  1268. <i> skeptics were quick</i>
  1269. <i> to share their hindsights</i>
  1270.  
  1271. 258
  1272. 00:12:07,094 --> 00:12:09,661
  1273. <i> and rants on blogs</i>
  1274. <i> and in news articles.</i>
  1275.  
  1276. 259
  1277. 00:12:09,663 --> 00:12:11,596
  1278. <i> Many thought that</i>
  1279. <i> the party was over</i>
  1280.  
  1281. 260
  1282. 00:12:11,598 --> 00:12:14,632
  1283. <i> and that bitcoin was</i>
  1284. <i> on its way out.</i>
  1285.  
  1286. 261
  1287. 00:12:14,634 --> 00:12:17,235
  1288. I went online and I bought
  1289. one bitcoin last night.
  1290.  
  1291. 262
  1292. 00:12:17,237 --> 00:12:20,171
  1293. Really? It's the future.
  1294.  
  1295. 263
  1296. 00:12:20,173 --> 00:12:21,172
  1297. I don't know.
  1298.  
  1299. 264
  1300. 00:12:21,174 --> 00:12:22,173
  1301. It didn't feel real.
  1302.  
  1303. 265
  1304. 00:12:22,175 --> 00:12:24,175
  1305. No. Real's gonna change.
  1306.  
  1307. 266
  1308. 00:12:25,177 --> 00:12:27,746
  1309. Just watch.
  1310.  
  1311. 267
  1312. 00:12:27,748 --> 00:12:30,081
  1313. Today I sent
  1314. a total of...
  1315.  
  1316. 268
  1317. 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:33,685
  1318. 2700 bitcoins
  1319.  
  1320. 269
  1321. 00:12:33,687 --> 00:12:35,120
  1322. to butterfly labs.
  1323.  
  1324. 270
  1325. 00:12:35,122 --> 00:12:38,590
  1326. <i> I purchased, basically,</i>
  1327. <i> a custom-designed</i>
  1328.  
  1329. 271
  1330. 00:12:38,592 --> 00:12:41,493
  1331. <i> bitcoin-mining</i>
  1332. <i> supercomputer.</i>
  1333.  
  1334. 272
  1335. 00:12:41,495 --> 00:12:43,228
  1336. If bitcoin fails...
  1337.  
  1338. 273
  1339. 00:12:44,497 --> 00:12:46,231
  1340. Everything I have
  1341. is worthless.
  1342.  
  1343. 274
  1344. 00:12:46,233 --> 00:12:48,800
  1345. ( Stammers )
  1346. The bitcoins I have,
  1347.  
  1348. 275
  1349. 00:12:48,802 --> 00:12:50,568
  1350. the computers,
  1351. the mining system
  1352.  
  1353. 276
  1354. 00:12:50,570 --> 00:12:52,170
  1355. was all a waste of money.
  1356.  
  1357. 277
  1358. 00:12:55,508 --> 00:12:57,575
  1359. But if it succeeds, then...
  1360.  
  1361. 278
  1362. 00:12:59,812 --> 00:13:02,313
  1363. It will have been worth it,
  1364. I think.
  1365.  
  1366. 279
  1367. 00:13:02,315 --> 00:13:05,650
  1368. - ( Beeps )
  1369. -<i> The bitcoin economy was</i>
  1370. <i> a wild west in cyberspace</i>
  1371.  
  1372. 280
  1373. 00:13:05,652 --> 00:13:08,853
  1374. <i> that was very attractive</i>
  1375. <i> to hackers and scammers.</i>
  1376.  
  1377. 281
  1378. 00:13:08,855 --> 00:13:12,323
  1379. <i> Over the years,</i>
  1380. <i> tens of thousands of coins</i>
  1381. <i> had been stolen</i>
  1382.  
  1383. 282
  1384. 00:13:12,325 --> 00:13:14,626
  1385. <i> and 2012 proved no different.</i>
  1386.  
  1387. 283
  1388. 00:13:14,628 --> 00:13:17,295
  1389. <i> Users had to be careful.</i>
  1390.  
  1391. 284
  1392. 00:13:17,297 --> 00:13:20,098
  1393. If somebody steals
  1394. your bitcoins, there are
  1395. no consumer protections.
  1396.  
  1397. 285
  1398. 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:22,300
  1399. Sorry, they're gone.
  1400. You lost your bitcoins?
  1401. They're gone
  1402.  
  1403. 286
  1404. 00:13:22,302 --> 00:13:24,102
  1405. and you're not going
  1406. to get them back.
  1407.  
  1408. 287
  1409. 00:13:24,104 --> 00:13:27,005
  1410. <i> But after months of stagnation</i>
  1411. <i> on the exchanges,</i>
  1412.  
  1413. 288
  1414. 00:13:27,007 --> 00:13:29,474
  1415. <i> the bitcoin price was</i>
  1416. <i> on the rise again.</i>
  1417.  
  1418. 289
  1419. 00:13:29,476 --> 00:13:32,844
  1420. The price of bitcoin today
  1421. is around $7 u.S.D.,
  1422.  
  1423. 290
  1424. 00:13:32,846 --> 00:13:36,347
  1425. which just had a nice
  1426. little bump this week.
  1427.  
  1428. 291
  1429. 00:13:36,349 --> 00:13:39,350
  1430. <i> By the end of the year,</i>
  1431. <i> the blogging site wordpress</i>
  1432.  
  1433. 292
  1434. 00:13:39,352 --> 00:13:42,320
  1435. <i> announced it would start</i>
  1436. <i> accepting bitcoin payments.</i>
  1437.  
  1438. 293
  1439. 00:13:42,322 --> 00:13:45,089
  1440. <i> And in early 2013,</i>
  1441. <i> the discussion forum reddit</i>
  1442.  
  1443. 294
  1444. 00:13:45,091 --> 00:13:46,925
  1445. <i> also announced</i>
  1446. <i> bitcoin support.</i>
  1447.  
  1448. 295
  1449. 00:13:46,927 --> 00:13:50,228
  1450. <i>They were the first major sites</i>
  1451. <i> to incorporate bitcoin,</i>
  1452.  
  1453. 296
  1454. 00:13:50,230 --> 00:13:52,463
  1455. <i> and these milestones</i>
  1456. <i> signaled the beginning</i>
  1457.  
  1458. 297
  1459. 00:13:52,465 --> 00:13:53,898
  1460. <i> of mainstream acceptance.</i>
  1461.  
  1462. 298
  1463. 00:14:01,540 --> 00:14:05,109
  1464. Bitcoin is the most subversive
  1465. technology on the planet.
  1466.  
  1467. 299
  1468. 00:14:05,111 --> 00:14:08,046
  1469. This is a system
  1470. that is growing around
  1471. the entire world.
  1472.  
  1473. 300
  1474. 00:14:08,048 --> 00:14:11,282
  1475. So if it works,
  1476. if this experiment
  1477. continues to grow,
  1478.  
  1479. 301
  1480. 00:14:11,284 --> 00:14:14,652
  1481. it doesn't just help
  1482. a few of us in this state
  1483. or in the country,
  1484.  
  1485. 302
  1486. 00:14:14,654 --> 00:14:16,621
  1487. but it actually helps
  1488. everyone around the world.
  1489.  
  1490. 303
  1491. 00:14:19,425 --> 00:14:20,825
  1492. ( People chattering )
  1493.  
  1494. 304
  1495. 00:14:20,827 --> 00:14:22,493
  1496. Daniel:
  1497. <i> As the bitcoin price</i>
  1498. <i> hovered around</i>
  1499.  
  1500. 305
  1501. 00:14:22,495 --> 00:14:25,396
  1502. <i> it's previous</i>
  1503. <i> all-time high of $31,</i>
  1504.  
  1505. 306
  1506. 00:14:25,398 --> 00:14:28,099
  1507. <i> I visited</i>
  1508. <i> a libertarian conference</i>
  1509. <i> in New Hampshire.</i>
  1510.  
  1511. 307
  1512. 00:14:28,101 --> 00:14:30,602
  1513. It lost 20% and then it
  1514. gained 20%
  1515.  
  1516. 308
  1517. 00:14:30,604 --> 00:14:32,437
  1518. in 20 minutes.
  1519.  
  1520. 309
  1521. 00:14:32,439 --> 00:14:34,005
  1522. It is--
  1523. they're silly.
  1524.  
  1525. 310
  1526. 00:14:35,074 --> 00:14:36,674
  1527. Daniel:
  1528. <i> Libertarians are among</i>
  1529.  
  1530. 311
  1531. 00:14:36,676 --> 00:14:38,276
  1532. <i> the earliest adopters</i>
  1533. <i> of bitcoin.</i>
  1534.  
  1535. 312
  1536. 00:14:38,278 --> 00:14:40,845
  1537. <i> Its nature as a currency</i>
  1538. <i> that isn't controlled</i>
  1539.  
  1540. 313
  1541. 00:14:40,847 --> 00:14:43,815
  1542. <i> by central banks</i>
  1543. <i> makes it attractive</i>
  1544. <i> to this community.</i>
  1545.  
  1546. 314
  1547. 00:14:43,817 --> 00:14:46,150
  1548. Once I was able to kind
  1549. of grok the basic concept,
  1550.  
  1551. 315
  1552. 00:14:46,152 --> 00:14:48,853
  1553. it was like, "this is
  1554. the perfect money. "
  1555.  
  1556. 316
  1557. 00:14:48,855 --> 00:14:51,522
  1558. Daniel:
  1559. <i> This is what</i>
  1560. <i> a bitcoin address looks like.</i>
  1561.  
  1562. 317
  1563. 00:14:51,524 --> 00:14:53,825
  1564. <i> Think of this long string</i>
  1565. <i> of characters</i>
  1566.  
  1567. 318
  1568. 00:14:53,827 --> 00:14:56,294
  1569. <i> as an account number where</i>
  1570. <i> your bitcoins are stored.</i>
  1571.  
  1572. 319
  1573. 00:14:56,296 --> 00:14:58,329
  1574. <i> When you send</i>
  1575. <i> or receive bitcoins,</i>
  1576.  
  1577. 320
  1578. 00:14:58,331 --> 00:15:00,798
  1579. <i> they are sent</i>
  1580. <i> to these addresses.</i>
  1581.  
  1582. 321
  1583. 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:02,834
  1584. <i> The addresses are</i>
  1585. <i> long and hard to remember</i>
  1586.  
  1587. 322
  1588. 00:15:02,836 --> 00:15:05,637
  1589. <i> so using a phone</i>
  1590. <i> to scan a q.R. Code</i>
  1591.  
  1592. 323
  1593. 00:15:05,639 --> 00:15:07,805
  1594. <i> is a fast and easy way</i>
  1595. <i> to read them.</i>
  1596.  
  1597. 324
  1598. 00:15:07,807 --> 00:15:09,540
  1599. <i> Another good thing to know</i>
  1600.  
  1601. 325
  1602. 00:15:09,542 --> 00:15:10,975
  1603. <i> is that bitcoins</i>
  1604. <i> can be broken down</i>
  1605.  
  1606. 326
  1607. 00:15:10,977 --> 00:15:12,677
  1608. <i> to eight decimal places.</i>
  1609.  
  1610. 327
  1611. 00:15:12,679 --> 00:15:15,280
  1612. <i> This means that you can send</i>
  1613. <i> fractions of a bitcoin.</i>
  1614.  
  1615. 328
  1616. 00:15:15,282 --> 00:15:18,683
  1617. <i> So any amount of money</i>
  1618. <i> can be represented.</i>
  1619.  
  1620. 329
  1621. 00:15:18,685 --> 00:15:21,920
  1622. <i> With bitcoin,</i>
  1623. <i> every transaction is public.</i>
  1624.  
  1625. 330
  1626. 00:15:21,922 --> 00:15:24,422
  1627. <i> Everyone can see the amount</i>
  1628. <i> that is being sent</i>
  1629.  
  1630. 331
  1631. 00:15:24,424 --> 00:15:27,892
  1632. <i> without necessarily knowing</i>
  1633. <i> the identity of the sender.</i>
  1634.  
  1635. 332
  1636. 00:15:27,894 --> 00:15:30,929
  1637. <i> These guys even have one</i>
  1638. <i> of the first bitcoin a.T.M.S.</i>
  1639.  
  1640. 333
  1641. 00:15:30,931 --> 00:15:34,132
  1642. You just scan
  1643. your q.R. Code
  1644. on your phone,
  1645.  
  1646. 334
  1647. 00:15:34,134 --> 00:15:36,401
  1648. <i> put in the dollar bills</i>
  1649. <i> and press the button.</i>
  1650.  
  1651. 335
  1652. 00:15:36,403 --> 00:15:38,937
  1653. Bam. Done.
  1654. Perfect.
  1655.  
  1656. 336
  1657. 00:15:38,939 --> 00:15:41,306
  1658. <i> You now traded</i>
  1659. <i> your worthless piece</i>
  1660. <i> of paper</i>
  1661.  
  1662. 337
  1663. 00:15:41,308 --> 00:15:43,274
  1664. <i> for real currency.</i>
  1665.  
  1666. 338
  1667. 00:15:43,276 --> 00:15:45,310
  1668. It's like, "end the fed?"
  1669. It's like, seriously,
  1670. you think
  1671.  
  1672. 339
  1673. 00:15:45,312 --> 00:15:46,744
  1674. you're gonna end the fed?
  1675. You're not gonna end the fed.
  1676.  
  1677. 340
  1678. 00:15:46,746 --> 00:15:48,079
  1679. You're not gonna change
  1680. anything about the fed.
  1681.  
  1682. 341
  1683. 00:15:48,081 --> 00:15:50,114
  1684. - Transcend the fed.
  1685. - Bypass the fed.
  1686.  
  1687. 342
  1688. 00:15:50,116 --> 00:15:51,916
  1689. - Right, yeah. ( Chuckles )
  1690. - That's what you should do.
  1691.  
  1692. 343
  1693. 00:15:51,918 --> 00:15:54,919
  1694. My concern is how
  1695. the governments will react.
  1696.  
  1697. 344
  1698. 00:15:54,921 --> 00:15:57,255
  1699. They can't kill
  1700. or stop bitcoin,
  1701.  
  1702. 345
  1703. 00:15:57,257 --> 00:16:00,658
  1704. but they could impede it
  1705. and they could get in the way
  1706. of its development.
  1707.  
  1708. 346
  1709. 00:16:04,430 --> 00:16:06,931
  1710. Daniel:
  1711. <i> A few weeks later</i>
  1712. <i> across the ocean,</i>
  1713.  
  1714. 347
  1715. 00:16:06,933 --> 00:16:09,167
  1716. <i> a financial crisis was</i>
  1717. <i> reaching a breaking point</i>
  1718.  
  1719. 348
  1720. 00:16:09,169 --> 00:16:10,802
  1721. <i> on the island of Cyprus.</i>
  1722.  
  1723. 349
  1724. 00:16:10,804 --> 00:16:13,137
  1725. Cyprus is on the brink
  1726. of going bust.
  1727.  
  1728. 350
  1729. 00:16:13,139 --> 00:16:15,273
  1730. The rest of Europe
  1731. has agreed to a bailout,
  1732.  
  1733. 351
  1734. 00:16:15,275 --> 00:16:19,277
  1735. but only if Cyprus raids
  1736. people's bank accounts
  1737. for quick hard cash.
  1738.  
  1739. 352
  1740. 00:16:19,279 --> 00:16:21,779
  1741. Woman:
  1742. <i> People tried to get money</i>
  1743. <i> out of the cash machines</i>
  1744.  
  1745. 353
  1746. 00:16:21,781 --> 00:16:24,115
  1747. <i> but electronic transfers</i>
  1748. <i> have been stopped.</i>
  1749.  
  1750. 354
  1751. 00:16:24,117 --> 00:16:26,351
  1752. - Never did I think
  1753. that they would...
  1754. - ( People chanting )
  1755.  
  1756. 355
  1757. 00:16:26,353 --> 00:16:28,119
  1758. ...in a completely
  1759. unprecedented manner
  1760.  
  1761. 356
  1762. 00:16:28,121 --> 00:16:29,954
  1763. resort to stealing money
  1764.  
  1765. 357
  1766. 00:16:29,956 --> 00:16:32,323
  1767. from people's
  1768. bank accounts.
  1769.  
  1770. 358
  1771. 00:16:32,325 --> 00:16:34,225
  1772. Daniel:
  1773. <i> The Cypriots had</i>
  1774. <i> placed their trust</i>
  1775.  
  1776. 359
  1777. 00:16:34,227 --> 00:16:37,996
  1778. <i> in the banking system</i>
  1779. <i> and it had failed them.</i>
  1780.  
  1781. 360
  1782. 00:16:37,998 --> 00:16:41,332
  1783. <i> As news of the crisis</i>
  1784. <i> spread around the world,</i>
  1785.  
  1786. 361
  1787. 00:16:41,334 --> 00:16:43,468
  1788. <i> bitcoin believers</i>
  1789. <i> were quick to point it out</i>
  1790.  
  1791. 362
  1792. 00:16:43,470 --> 00:16:45,436
  1793. <i> as an example</i>
  1794. <i> of why a currency</i>
  1795.  
  1796. 363
  1797. 00:16:45,438 --> 00:16:47,505
  1798. <i> free from government control</i>
  1799. <i> was needed.</i>
  1800.  
  1801. 364
  1802. 00:16:47,507 --> 00:16:49,941
  1803. There's actually
  1804. bitcoin atms
  1805.  
  1806. 365
  1807. 00:16:49,943 --> 00:16:52,310
  1808. apparently being
  1809. set up in Cyprus.
  1810.  
  1811. 366
  1812. 00:16:52,312 --> 00:16:54,312
  1813. Man:
  1814. <i> All of a sudden,</i>
  1815. <i> bitcoin looks</i>
  1816.  
  1817. 367
  1818. 00:16:54,314 --> 00:16:56,014
  1819. <i> like an attractive prospect.</i>
  1820.  
  1821. 368
  1822. 00:16:57,983 --> 00:16:59,817
  1823. Daniel:
  1824. <i> While this was</i>
  1825. <i> happening in Cyprus,</i>
  1826.  
  1827. 369
  1828. 00:16:59,819 --> 00:17:01,586
  1829. <i> regulators</i>
  1830. <i> at the U.S. treasury</i>
  1831.  
  1832. 370
  1833. 00:17:01,588 --> 00:17:04,222
  1834. <i> weighed in on bitcoin.</i>
  1835.  
  1836. 371
  1837. 00:17:04,224 --> 00:17:07,692
  1838. <i> The financial crimes</i>
  1839. <i> enforcement network,</i>
  1840. <i> known as fincen,</i>
  1841.  
  1842. 372
  1843. 00:17:07,694 --> 00:17:10,762
  1844. <i> issued its first</i>
  1845. <i> regulatory guidance</i>
  1846. <i> on virtual currencies.</i>
  1847.  
  1848. 373
  1849. 00:17:11,964 --> 00:17:13,965
  1850. <i> The guidance implied</i>
  1851. <i> that bitcoin,</i>
  1852.  
  1853. 374
  1854. 00:17:13,967 --> 00:17:16,200
  1855. <i> in and of itself,</i>
  1856. <i> was not illegal.</i>
  1857.  
  1858. 375
  1859. 00:17:20,372 --> 00:17:22,573
  1860. <i> It was the perfect storm.</i>
  1861.  
  1862. 376
  1863. 00:17:22,575 --> 00:17:25,043
  1864. <i> The situation</i>
  1865. <i> in Cyprus suggested</i>
  1866.  
  1867. 377
  1868. 00:17:25,045 --> 00:17:27,912
  1869. <i> that bitcoin could function</i>
  1870. <i> as a financial safe haven.</i>
  1871.  
  1872. 378
  1873. 00:17:27,914 --> 00:17:30,481
  1874. <i> And the approving nod</i>
  1875. <i> of U.S. regulators</i>
  1876.  
  1877. 379
  1878. 00:17:30,483 --> 00:17:32,583
  1879. <i> was a green light</i>
  1880. <i> for investors.</i>
  1881.  
  1882. 380
  1883. 00:17:32,585 --> 00:17:34,252
  1884. <i> The market agreed</i>
  1885.  
  1886. 381
  1887. 00:17:34,254 --> 00:17:36,421
  1888. <i> and the exchange</i>
  1889. <i> price continued to climb.</i>
  1890.  
  1891. 382
  1892. 00:17:36,423 --> 00:17:38,656
  1893. ( Beeps )
  1894.  
  1895. 383
  1896. 00:17:38,658 --> 00:17:41,926
  1897. It's moving from the super
  1898. super-early-adopter phase
  1899.  
  1900. 384
  1901. 00:17:41,928 --> 00:17:43,661
  1902. to possibly
  1903. the early-adopter phase.
  1904.  
  1905. 385
  1906. 00:17:43,663 --> 00:17:44,962
  1907. Daniel:
  1908. <i> Bitcoin was getting </i>
  1909.  
  1910. 386
  1911. 00:17:44,964 --> 00:17:46,664
  1912. <i> international exposure</i>
  1913.  
  1914. 387
  1915. 00:17:46,666 --> 00:17:48,633
  1916. <i> and people were starting</i>
  1917. <i> to pay attention.</i>
  1918.  
  1919. 388
  1920. 00:17:51,303 --> 00:17:55,473
  1921. <i> This is actually a live,</i>
  1922. <i> updated map of the globe</i>
  1923.  
  1924. 389
  1925. 00:17:55,475 --> 00:17:59,343
  1926. <i> and the lines represent</i>
  1927. <i> bitcoin clients.</i>
  1928.  
  1929. 390
  1930. 00:17:59,345 --> 00:18:01,646
  1931. <i> Basically where the bitcoin</i>
  1932. <i> software is running.</i>
  1933.  
  1934. 391
  1935. 00:18:01,648 --> 00:18:05,483
  1936. And the length
  1937. of the line determines
  1938.  
  1939. 392
  1940. 00:18:05,485 --> 00:18:07,819
  1941. how long it's been online
  1942. or how active it's been.
  1943.  
  1944. 393
  1945. 00:18:07,821 --> 00:18:09,654
  1946. And every time
  1947. I look at this,
  1948.  
  1949. 394
  1950. 00:18:09,656 --> 00:18:11,923
  1951. I swear it gets more
  1952. and more saturated.
  1953.  
  1954. 395
  1955. 00:18:11,925 --> 00:18:14,258
  1956. You can almost see
  1957. an outline of the U.S. now.
  1958.  
  1959. 396
  1960. 00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:16,260
  1961. South America--
  1962. you're starting to get it.
  1963.  
  1964. 397
  1965. 00:18:16,262 --> 00:18:18,029
  1966. But the big news,
  1967. in my opinion,
  1968.  
  1969. 398
  1970. 00:18:18,031 --> 00:18:19,864
  1971. <i> is this-- China.</i>
  1972.  
  1973. 399
  1974. 00:18:19,866 --> 00:18:23,301
  1975. <i> You used to see one,</i>
  1976. <i> two, three, maybe.</i>
  1977.  
  1978. 400
  1979. 00:18:23,303 --> 00:18:27,638
  1980. <i> And this is all within</i>
  1981. <i> the last three weeks or so.</i>
  1982.  
  1983. 401
  1984. 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,007
  1985. <i> That's the most</i>
  1986. <i> I've ever seen in China.</i>
  1987.  
  1988. 402
  1989. 00:18:30,009 --> 00:18:32,176
  1990. Look down here.
  1991. Indonesia, Singapore,
  1992.  
  1993. 403
  1994. 00:18:32,178 --> 00:18:33,744
  1995. Australia, New Zealand.
  1996.  
  1997. 404
  1998. 00:18:41,286 --> 00:18:44,255
  1999. <i> The following week</i>
  2000. <i> it snowed in pittsburg.</i>
  2001.  
  2002. 405
  2003. 00:18:44,257 --> 00:18:47,725
  2004. <i> I was eagerly</i>
  2005. <i> awaiting the delivery</i>
  2006. <i> of two avalon asics,</i>
  2007.  
  2008. 406
  2009. 00:18:47,727 --> 00:18:49,494
  2010. <i> state of the art computers</i>
  2011.  
  2012. 407
  2013. 00:18:49,496 --> 00:18:52,597
  2014. <i> with chips</i>
  2015. <i> specifically designed</i>
  2016. <i> for mining bitcoins.</i>
  2017.  
  2018. 408
  2019. 00:18:52,599 --> 00:18:54,298
  2020. <i> Yifu guo is</i>
  2021. <i> at the forefront</i>
  2022.  
  2023. 409
  2024. 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:56,267
  2025. <i> of the new generation</i>
  2026. <i> of hardware,</i>
  2027.  
  2028. 410
  2029. 00:18:56,269 --> 00:18:57,735
  2030. <i> and is the first</i>
  2031. <i> to bring them to market.</i>
  2032.  
  2033. 411
  2034. 00:18:57,737 --> 00:18:59,670
  2035. Everybody,
  2036. including myself,
  2037.  
  2038. 412
  2039. 00:18:59,672 --> 00:19:00,972
  2040. had severely
  2041. underestimated
  2042.  
  2043. 413
  2044. 00:19:00,974 --> 00:19:02,907
  2045. the mining market
  2046. and how big it is.
  2047.  
  2048. 414
  2049. 00:19:02,909 --> 00:19:04,275
  2050. Daniel:
  2051. <i> When bitcoin began,</i>
  2052.  
  2053. 415
  2054. 00:19:04,277 --> 00:19:06,410
  2055. <i> a standard laptop</i>
  2056. <i> was powerful enough</i>
  2057.  
  2058. 416
  2059. 00:19:06,412 --> 00:19:09,113
  2060. <i> to mine hundreds of bitcoins</i>
  2061. <i> in a matter of days.</i>
  2062.  
  2063. 417
  2064. 00:19:09,115 --> 00:19:12,817
  2065. <i> The technology evolved rapidly</i>
  2066. <i> over the past couple of years.</i>
  2067.  
  2068. 418
  2069. 00:19:12,819 --> 00:19:14,652
  2070. A lot of people
  2071. are getting into it
  2072.  
  2073. 419
  2074. 00:19:14,654 --> 00:19:16,154
  2075. or still trying
  2076. to catch up.
  2077.  
  2078. 420
  2079. 00:19:18,957 --> 00:19:20,992
  2080. Daniel:
  2081. <i> I was on vacation</i>
  2082. <i> with my family</i>
  2083.  
  2084. 421
  2085. 00:19:20,994 --> 00:19:23,161
  2086. <i> when the new miners were</i>
  2087. <i> scheduled to arrive.</i>
  2088.  
  2089. 422
  2090. 00:19:23,163 --> 00:19:26,430
  2091. <i> The price of bitcoin</i>
  2092. <i> had rocketed to $77</i>
  2093.  
  2094. 423
  2095. 00:19:26,432 --> 00:19:28,966
  2096. <i> so I asked some friends</i>
  2097. <i> to wait at my house</i>
  2098.  
  2099. 424
  2100. 00:19:28,968 --> 00:19:30,501
  2101. <i> to get them running</i>
  2102. <i> as soon as possible.</i>
  2103.  
  2104. 425
  2105. 00:19:30,503 --> 00:19:34,138
  2106. Mancini:
  2107. <i> All right!</i>
  2108. <i> ( Laughs )</i>
  2109.  
  2110. 426
  2111. 00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:36,474
  2112. - I hope this is good.
  2113. I hope it's worthwhile.
  2114. - Oh, definitely.
  2115.  
  2116. 427
  2117. 00:19:37,943 --> 00:19:39,477
  2118. These are
  2119. new computer parts here...
  2120.  
  2121. 428
  2122. 00:19:39,479 --> 00:19:41,445
  2123. - Excellent, excellent.
  2124. - ...Fresh in from China.
  2125.  
  2126. 429
  2127. 00:19:41,447 --> 00:19:44,315
  2128. - ( Laughs )
  2129. - All right, it's not
  2130. official until you sign.
  2131.  
  2132. 430
  2133. 00:19:44,317 --> 00:19:46,017
  2134. There we go.
  2135.  
  2136. 431
  2137. 00:19:48,287 --> 00:19:50,421
  2138. Nick:
  2139. <i> Yeah, we'll see.</i>
  2140. <i> Maybe down the road</i>
  2141.  
  2142. 432
  2143. 00:19:50,423 --> 00:19:51,956
  2144. <i> you guys will start</i>
  2145. <i> accepting bitcoin</i>
  2146. <i> one day, I bet.</i>
  2147.  
  2148. 433
  2149. 00:19:51,958 --> 00:19:53,591
  2150. - That's cool.
  2151. -<i> Just a matter of time.</i>
  2152.  
  2153. 434
  2154. 00:19:53,593 --> 00:19:55,193
  2155. Driver:
  2156. <i> Good luck to you guys.</i>
  2157. <i> All right.</i>
  2158.  
  2159. 435
  2160. 00:19:56,728 --> 00:19:57,929
  2161. Mancini:
  2162. <i> I notified Dan</i>
  2163.  
  2164. 436
  2165. 00:19:57,931 --> 00:19:59,063
  2166. <i> and he has</i>
  2167. <i> a little response here.</i>
  2168.  
  2169. 437
  2170. 00:20:11,376 --> 00:20:13,511
  2171. Welcome to
  2172. the financial renaissance.
  2173.  
  2174. 438
  2175. 00:20:14,746 --> 00:20:16,781
  2176. 192.168.1.140.
  2177.  
  2178. 439
  2179. 00:20:16,783 --> 00:20:18,683
  2180. 255.255.255.0.
  2181.  
  2182. 440
  2183. 00:20:18,685 --> 00:20:20,685
  2184. 192.168.1.1.
  2185.  
  2186. 441
  2187. 00:20:20,687 --> 00:20:22,520
  2188. That's the default gateway.
  2189.  
  2190. 442
  2191. 00:20:22,522 --> 00:20:26,591
  2192. My first pull is gonna be
  2193. stratum.Ozc.In, port 3333.
  2194.  
  2195. 443
  2196. 00:20:26,593 --> 00:20:29,026
  2197. Port 80,
  2198. but I can do 3333.
  2199.  
  2200. 444
  2201. 00:20:29,028 --> 00:20:31,596
  2202. <i> And when everything's all</i>
  2203. <i> said and done, for at least</i>
  2204. <i> a little while,</i>
  2205.  
  2206. 445
  2207. 00:20:31,598 --> 00:20:34,932
  2208. it should be pulling in
  2209. 10 to 12 coins a day.
  2210.  
  2211. 446
  2212. 00:20:34,934 --> 00:20:37,368
  2213. That's gonna change though,
  2214. after another week.
  2215.  
  2216. 447
  2217. 00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:39,303
  2218. It's gonna get
  2219. dropped down to, like, eight,
  2220.  
  2221. 448
  2222. 00:20:39,305 --> 00:20:41,606
  2223. - just because the difficulty's
  2224. just going through the roof.
  2225. - Yeah.
  2226.  
  2227. 449
  2228. 00:20:41,608 --> 00:20:43,040
  2229. Everybody's firing
  2230. these things up,
  2231.  
  2232. 450
  2233. 00:20:43,042 --> 00:20:44,742
  2234. so it's always
  2235. a race to stay ahead
  2236.  
  2237. 451
  2238. 00:20:44,744 --> 00:20:48,112
  2239. <i> and try to be the first guy</i>
  2240. <i> with the hardware, you know?</i>
  2241.  
  2242. 452
  2243. 00:20:48,114 --> 00:20:50,214
  2244. Oh, I'm getting pings.
  2245. Whoo!
  2246.  
  2247. 453
  2248. 00:20:50,216 --> 00:20:51,916
  2249. Mancini:
  2250. <i> Yup, we're kicking.</i>
  2251.  
  2252. 454
  2253. 00:20:51,918 --> 00:20:53,317
  2254. We are accepting shares.
  2255.  
  2256. 455
  2257. 00:20:53,319 --> 00:20:54,418
  2258. It is live.
  2259.  
  2260. 456
  2261. 00:20:54,420 --> 00:20:56,754
  2262. <i> We've got the Merlot!</i>
  2263.  
  2264. 457
  2265. 00:20:56,756 --> 00:20:58,723
  2266. ( Both laugh )
  2267.  
  2268. 458
  2269. 00:20:58,725 --> 00:21:01,993
  2270. ( Mumbles )
  2271.  
  2272. 459
  2273. 00:21:03,829 --> 00:21:05,463
  2274. <i> Hey, that looks</i>
  2275. <i> like johan.</i>
  2276.  
  2277. 460
  2278. 00:21:05,465 --> 00:21:08,633
  2279. Say, "I'm going
  2280. to college 'cause
  2281. my dad mines bitcoins."
  2282.  
  2283. 461
  2284. 00:21:08,635 --> 00:21:11,435
  2285. Dad going bitcoins.
  2286.  
  2287. 462
  2288. 00:21:11,437 --> 00:21:13,037
  2289. ( Laughs )
  2290.  
  2291. 463
  2292. 00:21:17,676 --> 00:21:20,311
  2293. Nick:
  2294. <i> So, big day today, huh?</i>
  2295.  
  2296. 464
  2297. 00:21:20,313 --> 00:21:22,847
  2298. Big day.
  2299. Look at that. 104.
  2300.  
  2301. 465
  2302. 00:21:22,849 --> 00:21:25,182
  2303. Current bitcoin price.
  2304. Broke 100 today.
  2305.  
  2306. 466
  2307. 00:21:25,184 --> 00:21:28,819
  2308. It is April fool's day.
  2309.  
  2310. 467
  2311. 00:21:28,821 --> 00:21:32,089
  2312. The price rising
  2313. so insanely high
  2314.  
  2315. 468
  2316. 00:21:32,091 --> 00:21:34,425
  2317. is kind of
  2318. a little bit unprecedented,
  2319.  
  2320. 469
  2321. 00:21:34,427 --> 00:21:37,628
  2322. so-- I mean, it's bound
  2323. to pop a little bit.
  2324.  
  2325. 470
  2326. 00:21:37,630 --> 00:21:39,730
  2327. Maybe.
  2328. I don't know.
  2329.  
  2330. 471
  2331. 00:21:39,732 --> 00:21:41,932
  2332. Maybe it'll be at 225
  2333. in a week and a half,
  2334.  
  2335. 472
  2336. 00:21:41,934 --> 00:21:45,236
  2337. so who knows?
  2338. Bitcoin styles--
  2339.  
  2340. 473
  2341. 00:21:45,238 --> 00:21:47,038
  2342. could go up,
  2343. could go down.
  2344.  
  2345. 474
  2346. 00:21:53,412 --> 00:21:55,146
  2347. Daniel:
  2348. <i> As the price passed 100,</i>
  2349.  
  2350. 475
  2351. 00:21:55,148 --> 00:21:57,648
  2352. <i> we took a trip to visit</i>
  2353. <i> Gavin andresen.</i>
  2354.  
  2355. 476
  2356. 00:21:59,451 --> 00:22:01,919
  2357. <i> He is known to have</i>
  2358. <i> worked closely with satoshi</i>
  2359.  
  2360. 477
  2361. 00:22:01,921 --> 00:22:03,321
  2362. <i> during bitcoin's early days.</i>
  2363.  
  2364. 478
  2365. 00:22:10,996 --> 00:22:12,763
  2366. Here's the train tracks,
  2367. and he did say
  2368.  
  2369. 479
  2370. 00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:14,565
  2371. there would be train tracks
  2372. maybe passing through.
  2373.  
  2374. 480
  2375. 00:22:17,402 --> 00:22:19,470
  2376. Here we go.
  2377. This is Gavin's house.
  2378.  
  2379. 481
  2380. 00:22:25,477 --> 00:22:27,078
  2381. <i> Gavin is one</i>
  2382. <i> of the last people</i>
  2383.  
  2384. 482
  2385. 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,447
  2386. <i> to communicate with satoshi</i>
  2387. <i> before he disappeared.</i>
  2388.  
  2389. 483
  2390. 00:22:32,617 --> 00:22:36,087
  2391. Morning.
  2392. This is my brother Nick
  2393.  
  2394. 484
  2395. 00:22:36,089 --> 00:22:38,122
  2396. - and his wife Ashley.
  2397. - Nice to meet you.
  2398.  
  2399. 485
  2400. 00:22:38,124 --> 00:22:39,623
  2401. - Ashley:
  2402. <i> Hi, nice to meet you. </i>
  2403. - Nice to meet you.
  2404.  
  2405. 486
  2406. 00:22:39,625 --> 00:22:41,926
  2407. - Daniel: Found the place
  2408. okay, so--
  2409. - good.
  2410.  
  2411. 487
  2412. 00:22:41,928 --> 00:22:44,128
  2413. We're very excited
  2414. to be here.
  2415.  
  2416. 488
  2417. 00:22:44,130 --> 00:22:46,263
  2418. Come in.
  2419. This is my humble house.
  2420.  
  2421. 489
  2422. 00:22:46,265 --> 00:22:49,333
  2423. -<i> ( Door closes ) </i>
  2424. - That's where I work.
  2425. This is where I live.
  2426.  
  2427. 490
  2428. 00:22:52,471 --> 00:22:55,406
  2429. - Beautiful home.
  2430. - Well, thanks.
  2431.  
  2432. 491
  2433. 00:22:55,408 --> 00:22:57,975
  2434. Nick:
  2435. <i> A little higher, please.</i>
  2436. <i> Right there. </i> Great.
  2437.  
  2438. 492
  2439. 00:22:57,977 --> 00:23:00,077
  2440. -<i> Got it. </i>
  2441. - ( Daniel chuckles )
  2442.  
  2443. 493
  2444. 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:02,313
  2445. <i> How did you first</i>
  2446. <i> get into bitcoin?</i>
  2447.  
  2448. 494
  2449. 00:23:02,315 --> 00:23:04,248
  2450. <i> Tell us a little bit</i>
  2451. <i> of the story of how</i>
  2452. <i> you got involved.</i>
  2453.  
  2454. 495
  2455. 00:23:04,250 --> 00:23:06,484
  2456. I had been working at umass
  2457.  
  2458. 496
  2459. 00:23:06,486 --> 00:23:07,818
  2460. as a staff programmer
  2461.  
  2462. 497
  2463. 00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:09,153
  2464. in the computer science
  2465.  
  2466. 498
  2467. 00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:10,654
  2468. department research group.
  2469.  
  2470. 499
  2471. 00:23:10,656 --> 00:23:12,990
  2472. <i> My wife's</i>
  2473. <i> a Professor at umass.</i>
  2474.  
  2475. 500
  2476. 00:23:12,992 --> 00:23:14,792
  2477. <i> I actually quit</i>
  2478. <i> that job before going</i>
  2479.  
  2480. 501
  2481. 00:23:14,794 --> 00:23:17,228
  2482. <i> on a six-month sabbatical</i>
  2483. <i> in Australia.</i>
  2484.  
  2485. 502
  2486. 00:23:17,230 --> 00:23:19,997
  2487. I just happened
  2488. to read a little blurb
  2489.  
  2490. 503
  2491. 00:23:19,999 --> 00:23:22,133
  2492. <i> online in somebody's blog</i>
  2493.  
  2494. 504
  2495. 00:23:22,135 --> 00:23:24,268
  2496. that mentioned
  2497. this bitcoin project,
  2498.  
  2499. 505
  2500. 00:23:24,270 --> 00:23:27,037
  2501. which is an open-source
  2502. attempt to do money.
  2503.  
  2504. 506
  2505. 00:23:27,039 --> 00:23:29,039
  2506. And it caught my interest.
  2507.  
  2508. 507
  2509. 00:23:29,041 --> 00:23:32,943
  2510. <i> I basically</i>
  2511. <i> just spent a few days</i>
  2512.  
  2513. 508
  2514. 00:23:32,945 --> 00:23:34,945
  2515. <i> read everything</i>
  2516. <i> I could about it</i>
  2517.  
  2518. 509
  2519. 00:23:34,947 --> 00:23:37,348
  2520. <i> looked at the source code,</i>
  2521. <i> downloaded the source code,</i>
  2522.  
  2523. 510
  2524. 00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:40,050
  2525. thought about it
  2526. and I really couldn't
  2527. convince myself
  2528.  
  2529. 511
  2530. 00:23:40,052 --> 00:23:41,919
  2531. that it would not work.
  2532.  
  2533. 512
  2534. 00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:43,854
  2535. <i> It seemed like satoshi</i>
  2536. <i> had thought of everything.</i>
  2537.  
  2538. 513
  2539. 00:23:45,424 --> 00:23:46,657
  2540. Since then...
  2541.  
  2542. 514
  2543. 00:23:48,126 --> 00:23:50,261
  2544. I've just been sucked down
  2545. the rabbit hole.
  2546.  
  2547. 515
  2548. 00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:53,030
  2549. Daniel:
  2550. <i> Bitcoin is</i>
  2551. <i> open-source software.</i>
  2552.  
  2553. 516
  2554. 00:23:53,032 --> 00:23:54,632
  2555. <i> With open-source software,</i>
  2556.  
  2557. 517
  2558. 00:23:54,634 --> 00:23:56,400
  2559. <i> the code is</i>
  2560. <i> publicly available.</i>
  2561.  
  2562. 518
  2563. 00:23:56,402 --> 00:23:59,103
  2564. <i> Anyone can look at it</i>
  2565. <i> and see how it runs.</i>
  2566.  
  2567. 519
  2568. 00:23:59,105 --> 00:24:01,639
  2569. <i> And they can also contribute</i>
  2570. <i> their own changes.</i>
  2571.  
  2572. 520
  2573. 00:24:01,641 --> 00:24:05,276
  2574. <i> Programmers like Gavin</i>
  2575. <i> were able to join satoshi</i>
  2576. <i> to work on bitcoin</i>
  2577.  
  2578. 521
  2579. 00:24:05,278 --> 00:24:07,278
  2580. <i> simply because</i>
  2581. <i> they were interested.</i>
  2582.  
  2583. 522
  2584. 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,748
  2585. Over time, I think
  2586. satoshi learned to trust me.
  2587.  
  2588. 523
  2589. 00:24:10,750 --> 00:24:14,118
  2590. <i> He could see</i>
  2591. <i> that I didn't make</i>
  2592. <i> very many stupid mistakes.</i>
  2593.  
  2594. 524
  2595. 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,720
  2596. I never had any personal
  2597. connection with satoshi.
  2598.  
  2599. 525
  2600. 00:24:16,722 --> 00:24:18,489
  2601. It was always
  2602. purely business.
  2603.  
  2604. 526
  2605. 00:24:18,491 --> 00:24:21,225
  2606. And I think that's because
  2607. he was so worried about
  2608.  
  2609. 527
  2610. 00:24:21,227 --> 00:24:22,960
  2611. people finding out
  2612. his identity.
  2613.  
  2614. 528
  2615. 00:24:22,962 --> 00:24:26,564
  2616. I don't know why.
  2617. My last email to him
  2618.  
  2619. 529
  2620. 00:24:26,566 --> 00:24:28,265
  2621. was telling him that I had
  2622.  
  2623. 530
  2624. 00:24:28,267 --> 00:24:30,734
  2625. agreed to go visit
  2626. the folks at the c.I.A.,
  2627.  
  2628. 531
  2629. 00:24:30,736 --> 00:24:32,736
  2630. so... ( Laughs )
  2631.  
  2632. 532
  2633. 00:24:32,738 --> 00:24:34,472
  2634. Whether that had something
  2635. to do with him
  2636.  
  2637. 533
  2638. 00:24:34,474 --> 00:24:37,174
  2639. deciding to cut off
  2640. communication with me
  2641. entirely--
  2642.  
  2643. 534
  2644. 00:24:37,176 --> 00:24:39,510
  2645. <i> he had been</i>
  2646. <i> pulling away before then,</i>
  2647.  
  2648. 535
  2649. 00:24:39,512 --> 00:24:42,580
  2650. but the c.I.A. Invited me
  2651. to come talk at the c.I.A.
  2652.  
  2653. 536
  2654. 00:24:42,582 --> 00:24:44,348
  2655. And I agreed to do that.
  2656.  
  2657. 537
  2658. 00:24:46,117 --> 00:24:47,651
  2659. Daniel:
  2660. <i> Knowing it would surely spark</i>
  2661.  
  2662. 538
  2663. 00:24:47,653 --> 00:24:50,120
  2664. <i> conspiracy theories,</i>
  2665. <i> Gavin posted an announcement</i>
  2666.  
  2667. 539
  2668. 00:24:50,122 --> 00:24:52,122
  2669. <i> on the bitcoin talk</i>
  2670. <i> discussion forum</i>
  2671.  
  2672. 540
  2673. 00:24:52,124 --> 00:24:53,691
  2674. <i> to head off any rumors.</i>
  2675.  
  2676. 541
  2677. 00:25:01,366 --> 00:25:03,467
  2678. <i> Having taken on</i>
  2679. <i> the lead developer position</i>
  2680.  
  2681. 542
  2682. 00:25:03,469 --> 00:25:05,636
  2683. <i> since satoshi's</i>
  2684. <i> disappearance,</i>
  2685.  
  2686. 543
  2687. 00:25:05,638 --> 00:25:08,939
  2688. <i> Gavin found himself</i>
  2689. <i> facing an increasing number</i>
  2690. <i> of responsibilities</i>
  2691.  
  2692. 544
  2693. 00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:10,608
  2694. <i> and public scrutiny.</i>
  2695.  
  2696. 545
  2697. 00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:13,043
  2698. Do your neighbors
  2699. know that you're kind of
  2700. at the center
  2701.  
  2702. 546
  2703. 00:25:13,045 --> 00:25:15,913
  2704. of one of the most
  2705. disruptive technologies?
  2706.  
  2707. 547
  2708. 00:25:15,915 --> 00:25:20,050
  2709. I think-- I think
  2710. they know that I do
  2711. this wacky bitcoin project.
  2712.  
  2713. 548
  2714. 00:25:21,953 --> 00:25:24,588
  2715. I don't think they know
  2716. quite how big it is yet.
  2717.  
  2718. 549
  2719. 00:25:24,590 --> 00:25:26,624
  2720. Right now,
  2721.  
  2722. 550
  2723. 00:25:26,626 --> 00:25:29,393
  2724. bitcoin's
  2725. a billion-dollar project.
  2726.  
  2727. 551
  2728. 00:25:29,395 --> 00:25:31,896
  2729. <i> When I started it was</i>
  2730. <i> this tiny little experiment.</i>
  2731.  
  2732. 552
  2733. 00:25:31,898 --> 00:25:33,931
  2734. And as it gets bigger,
  2735.  
  2736. 553
  2737. 00:25:33,933 --> 00:25:37,134
  2738. the pressure
  2739. to not screw up
  2740.  
  2741. 554
  2742. 00:25:37,136 --> 00:25:39,503
  2743. just gets
  2744. bigger and bigger.
  2745.  
  2746. 555
  2747. 00:25:43,808 --> 00:25:45,075
  2748. Daniel:
  2749. <i> Two weeks later</i>
  2750.  
  2751. 556
  2752. 00:25:45,077 --> 00:25:47,144
  2753. <i> the price soared past 150.</i>
  2754.  
  2755. 557
  2756. 00:25:47,146 --> 00:25:48,913
  2757. <i> And some bitcoiners woke up</i>
  2758.  
  2759. 558
  2760. 00:25:48,915 --> 00:25:51,415
  2761. <i> to find out they were</i>
  2762. <i> bitcoin millionaires.</i>
  2763.  
  2764. 559
  2765. 00:25:51,417 --> 00:25:53,284
  2766. <i> 23-year-old Charlie shrem</i>
  2767.  
  2768. 560
  2769. 00:25:53,286 --> 00:25:55,920
  2770. <i> is the c.E.O. Of a company</i>
  2771. <i> called bitinstant.</i>
  2772.  
  2773. 561
  2774. 00:25:55,922 --> 00:26:00,090
  2775. <i> Bitinstant was one</i>
  2776. <i> of the first startups</i>
  2777. <i> in the bitcoin space.</i>
  2778.  
  2779. 562
  2780. 00:26:00,092 --> 00:26:02,259
  2781. <i> In bitcoin's infancy,</i>
  2782. <i> people had to jump</i>
  2783.  
  2784. 563
  2785. 00:26:02,261 --> 00:26:04,261
  2786. <i> through several hoops</i>
  2787. <i> to buy them.</i>
  2788.  
  2789. 564
  2790. 00:26:04,263 --> 00:26:05,729
  2791. <i> One of the only ways</i>
  2792.  
  2793. 565
  2794. 00:26:05,731 --> 00:26:07,431
  2795. <i> was through</i>
  2796. <i> the mt. Gox exchange,</i>
  2797.  
  2798. 566
  2799. 00:26:07,433 --> 00:26:09,466
  2800. <i> but this process required</i>
  2801. <i> transferring money</i>
  2802.  
  2803. 567
  2804. 00:26:09,468 --> 00:26:10,801
  2805. <i> through several</i>
  2806. <i> intermediaries</i>
  2807.  
  2808. 568
  2809. 00:26:10,803 --> 00:26:12,770
  2810. <i> and could take weeks.</i>
  2811.  
  2812. 569
  2813. 00:26:12,772 --> 00:26:15,973
  2814. <i> Charlie launched bitinstant</i>
  2815. <i> to streamline this process.</i>
  2816.  
  2817. 570
  2818. 00:26:15,975 --> 00:26:18,709
  2819. <i> And to help people buy</i>
  2820. <i> bitcoins quickly.</i>
  2821.  
  2822. 571
  2823. 00:26:18,711 --> 00:26:21,078
  2824. - Man:<i> Yeah,</i>
  2825. <i> that's good. That's great. </i>
  2826. -<i> ( Camera beeping )</i>
  2827.  
  2828. 572
  2829. 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,746
  2830. -<i> That's pretty nice. </i>
  2831. - You go like that.
  2832.  
  2833. 573
  2834. 00:26:22,748 --> 00:26:24,481
  2835. <i> Yeah, sure.</i>
  2836.  
  2837. 574
  2838. 00:26:24,483 --> 00:26:26,150
  2839. Daniel:
  2840. <i> Today Charlie is</i>
  2841. <i> being photographed</i>
  2842.  
  2843. 575
  2844. 00:26:26,152 --> 00:26:27,885
  2845. <i> for an article</i>
  2846. <i> in "businessweek."</i>
  2847.  
  2848. 576
  2849. 00:26:27,887 --> 00:26:29,587
  2850. Man:
  2851. <i> One of the ideas they had</i>
  2852.  
  2853. 577
  2854. 00:26:29,589 --> 00:26:31,488
  2855. <i> was that you're going--</i>
  2856. <i> throwing stuff up in the air</i>
  2857.  
  2858. 578
  2859. 00:26:31,490 --> 00:26:33,524
  2860. <i> and they were gonna add</i>
  2861. <i> bitcoins in later on.</i>
  2862.  
  2863. 579
  2864. 00:26:33,526 --> 00:26:35,259
  2865. - Going like that?
  2866. -<i> Yeah.</i>
  2867.  
  2868. 580
  2869. 00:26:35,261 --> 00:26:38,929
  2870. Shrem:
  2871. <i> This bitcoin thing</i>
  2872. <i> can actually change the world.</i>
  2873.  
  2874. 581
  2875. 00:26:38,931 --> 00:26:41,098
  2876. <i> But for this thing</i>
  2877. <i> to succeed,</i>
  2878.  
  2879. 582
  2880. 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:42,700
  2881. we have to figure out
  2882. a way to get more money
  2883.  
  2884. 583
  2885. 00:26:42,702 --> 00:26:44,735
  2886. in and out
  2887. of the ecosystem.
  2888.  
  2889. 584
  2890. 00:26:44,737 --> 00:26:47,705
  2891. Look out the window a bit.
  2892. Totally-- yeah.
  2893.  
  2894. 585
  2895. 00:26:47,707 --> 00:26:49,406
  2896. Then you can look--
  2897. yeah, that's good.
  2898.  
  2899. 586
  2900. 00:26:49,408 --> 00:26:51,508
  2901. And not show that
  2902. I'm super stressed out
  2903. right now
  2904.  
  2905. 587
  2906. 00:26:51,510 --> 00:26:54,244
  2907. and we have thousands of orders
  2908. that are being processed
  2909.  
  2910. 588
  2911. 00:26:54,246 --> 00:26:56,947
  2912. and I'm bugging out,
  2913. trying to get the new
  2914. site launched.
  2915.  
  2916. 589
  2917. 00:26:56,949 --> 00:26:59,183
  2918. -<i> No, don't look like that. </i>
  2919. - It's crazy.
  2920.  
  2921. 590
  2922. 00:26:59,185 --> 00:27:00,918
  2923. I'm trying not to,
  2924. but it's really hard.
  2925.  
  2926. 591
  2927. 00:27:06,024 --> 00:27:07,992
  2928. Shrem:
  2929. <i> Things have been insane.</i>
  2930.  
  2931. 592
  2932. 00:27:09,094 --> 00:27:10,728
  2933. <i> ( Mouse clicking )</i>
  2934.  
  2935. 593
  2936. 00:27:10,730 --> 00:27:13,764
  2937. <i> I haven't slept in days.</i>
  2938.  
  2939. 594
  2940. 00:27:13,766 --> 00:27:15,866
  2941. <i> The price is just rising,</i>
  2942. <i> so a lot of people</i>
  2943.  
  2944. 595
  2945. 00:27:15,868 --> 00:27:17,001
  2946. <i> are putting</i>
  2947. <i> money into it.</i>
  2948.  
  2949. 596
  2950. 00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:19,970
  2951. Daniel:
  2952. <i> Normally, Charlie can</i>
  2953. <i> get bitcoins</i>
  2954.  
  2955. 597
  2956. 00:27:19,972 --> 00:27:22,239
  2957. <i> to his customers</i>
  2958. <i> in about an hour.</i>
  2959.  
  2960. 598
  2961. 00:27:22,241 --> 00:27:23,774
  2962. <i> But with the recent flood</i>
  2963. <i> of people</i>
  2964.  
  2965. 599
  2966. 00:27:23,776 --> 00:27:25,442
  2967. <i> trying</i>
  2968. <i> to purchase bitcoins,</i>
  2969.  
  2970. 600
  2971. 00:27:25,444 --> 00:27:28,946
  2972. <i> bitinstant can't fill</i>
  2973. <i> their orders fast enough.</i>
  2974.  
  2975. 601
  2976. 00:27:28,948 --> 00:27:31,749
  2977. When I pulled up our
  2978. customer service interface,
  2979.  
  2980. 602
  2981. 00:27:31,751 --> 00:27:34,418
  2982. <i> we have close</i>
  2983. <i> to 2,000 open tickets.</i>
  2984.  
  2985. 603
  2986. 00:27:34,420 --> 00:27:37,321
  2987. And that's just
  2988. from Saturday to this morning.
  2989.  
  2990. 604
  2991. 00:27:37,323 --> 00:27:38,622
  2992. Nobody was ready
  2993.  
  2994. 605
  2995. 00:27:38,624 --> 00:27:39,757
  2996. for this kind
  2997. of volume,
  2998.  
  2999. 606
  3000. 00:27:39,759 --> 00:27:42,426
  3001. so we're trying
  3002. to catch up
  3003.  
  3004. 607
  3005. 00:27:42,428 --> 00:27:45,396
  3006. with the volume
  3007. and keep everybody happy.
  3008.  
  3009. 608
  3010. 00:27:45,398 --> 00:27:47,464
  3011. Man on phone:
  3012. <i> Can you just sort of</i>
  3013. <i> describe quickly</i>
  3014.  
  3015. 609
  3016. 00:27:47,466 --> 00:27:50,734
  3017. <i> what the last week or so</i>
  3018. <i> has been like for you guys?</i>
  3019.  
  3020. 610
  3021. 00:27:50,736 --> 00:27:53,604
  3022. The last week or so saw
  3023. our support staff
  3024.  
  3025. 611
  3026. 00:27:53,606 --> 00:27:55,639
  3027. go from two people
  3028. to five people.
  3029.  
  3030. 612
  3031. 00:27:55,641 --> 00:27:56,740
  3032. When someone
  3033. offers you
  3034.  
  3035. 613
  3036. 00:27:56,742 --> 00:27:57,941
  3037. a seat
  3038. on the rocket,
  3039.  
  3040. 614
  3041. 00:27:57,943 --> 00:27:59,309
  3042. you don't ask
  3043. where the seat is.
  3044.  
  3045. 615
  3046. 00:27:59,311 --> 00:28:00,978
  3047. You just
  3048. get on the rocket.
  3049.  
  3050. 616
  3051. 00:28:00,980 --> 00:28:04,481
  3052. Further, our volume has
  3053. basically tripled
  3054.  
  3055. 617
  3056. 00:28:04,483 --> 00:28:06,750
  3057. in the past two weeks,
  3058.  
  3059. 618
  3060. 00:28:06,752 --> 00:28:09,219
  3061. <i> going from a few hundred</i>
  3062. <i> transactions a day</i>
  3063.  
  3064. 619
  3065. 00:28:09,221 --> 00:28:12,289
  3066. to now two, three thousand
  3067. transactions a day.
  3068.  
  3069. 620
  3070. 00:28:12,291 --> 00:28:13,791
  3071. - Nick:<i> You just came</i>
  3072. <i> onboard here, right? </i>
  3073. - Yeah, I did.
  3074.  
  3075. 621
  3076. 00:28:13,793 --> 00:28:15,959
  3077. Actually, today is
  3078. kinda my first day.
  3079.  
  3080. 622
  3081. 00:28:15,961 --> 00:28:17,561
  3082. -<i> Oh really? </i>
  3083. - Yeah.
  3084.  
  3085. 623
  3086. 00:28:17,563 --> 00:28:19,430
  3087. <i> How does it feel to be</i>
  3088. <i> a part of all this madness?</i>
  3089.  
  3090. 624
  3091. 00:28:19,432 --> 00:28:21,899
  3092. Um, well, madness, yeah.
  3093.  
  3094. 625
  3095. 00:28:21,901 --> 00:28:23,967
  3096. <i> It's overwhelming.</i>
  3097.  
  3098. 626
  3099. 00:28:23,969 --> 00:28:26,070
  3100. <i> And what do you do</i>
  3101. <i> for bitinstant?</i>
  3102.  
  3103. 627
  3104. 00:28:26,072 --> 00:28:28,038
  3105. I'm the c.F.O.
  3106. ( Chuckles )
  3107.  
  3108. 628
  3109. 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,441
  3110. Man on phone:
  3111. <i> Can you give me</i>
  3112. <i> a daily estimate</i>
  3113.  
  3114. 629
  3115. 00:28:30,443 --> 00:28:32,609
  3116. <i> of how much</i>
  3117. <i> money you're moving</i>
  3118. <i> through your system?</i>
  3119.  
  3120. 630
  3121. 00:28:32,611 --> 00:28:34,712
  3122. Um, it's in the--
  3123.  
  3124. 631
  3125. 00:28:34,714 --> 00:28:37,047
  3126. in the six figures
  3127. every day.
  3128.  
  3129. 632
  3130. 00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:38,515
  3131. <i> All right.</i>
  3132. <i> Well, thanks, Charlie.</i>
  3133.  
  3134. 633
  3135. 00:28:38,517 --> 00:28:40,451
  3136. -<i> I really appreciate it. </i>
  3137. - Thank you.
  3138.  
  3139. 634
  3140. 00:28:40,453 --> 00:28:44,088
  3141. <i> I don't know how</i>
  3142. <i> the government will</i>
  3143. <i> react to bitcoin,</i>
  3144.  
  3145. 635
  3146. 00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:47,291
  3147. <i> but I spend thousands</i>
  3148. <i>of dollars on lawyers every day</i>
  3149.  
  3150. 636
  3151. 00:28:47,293 --> 00:28:49,126
  3152. <i> just to make sure that</i>
  3153. <i> I'm not gonna go to jail.</i>
  3154.  
  3155. 637
  3156. 00:28:51,096 --> 00:28:53,697
  3157. It's super terrifying.
  3158. I mean, I don't wanna
  3159. go to jail.
  3160.  
  3161. 638
  3162. 00:28:53,699 --> 00:28:55,799
  3163. ( Stammers )
  3164.  
  3165. 639
  3166. 00:28:55,801 --> 00:28:57,301
  3167. I don't wanna become
  3168. a martyr either.
  3169.  
  3170. 640
  3171. 00:29:06,277 --> 00:29:09,113
  3172. ( People chattering )
  3173.  
  3174. 641
  3175. 00:29:09,115 --> 00:29:11,248
  3176. Daniel:
  3177. <i> Bitcoin was the talk</i>
  3178. <i> of the town.</i>
  3179.  
  3180. 642
  3181. 00:29:11,250 --> 00:29:13,150
  3182. <i> Charlie was</i>
  3183. <i> in the limelight</i>
  3184.  
  3185. 643
  3186. 00:29:13,152 --> 00:29:15,953
  3187. <i> and could barely keep up</i>
  3188. <i> with media requests.</i>
  3189.  
  3190. 644
  3191. 00:29:15,955 --> 00:29:19,089
  3192. <i> Within hours,</i>
  3193. <i> the price passed $200.</i>
  3194.  
  3195. 645
  3196. 00:29:25,130 --> 00:29:26,563
  3197. Shrem:
  3198. <i> First day of spring,</i>
  3199.  
  3200. 646
  3201. 00:29:26,565 --> 00:29:28,198
  3202. <i> first day</i>
  3203. <i> bitcoin is over 200.</i>
  3204.  
  3205. 647
  3206. 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,633
  3207. <i> The start of a new era.</i>
  3208.  
  3209. 648
  3210. 00:29:29,635 --> 00:29:30,968
  3211. Nick:
  3212. <i> Hi. Nice to meet you.</i>
  3213.  
  3214. 649
  3215. 00:29:30,970 --> 00:29:32,703
  3216. I'm the nice
  3217. warm loving mom
  3218.  
  3219. 650
  3220. 00:29:32,705 --> 00:29:35,072
  3221. that makes him
  3222. live at home.
  3223.  
  3224. 651
  3225. 00:29:35,074 --> 00:29:39,209
  3226. 'Cause we can't--
  3227. we can't part from him yet.
  3228.  
  3229. 652
  3230. 00:29:39,211 --> 00:29:40,778
  3231. ( Laughter )
  3232.  
  3233. 653
  3234. 00:29:40,780 --> 00:29:43,080
  3235. Mother:
  3236. <i> We love him too much.</i>
  3237.  
  3238. 654
  3239. 00:29:43,082 --> 00:29:44,915
  3240. This is where
  3241. it all started
  3242.  
  3243. 655
  3244. 00:29:44,917 --> 00:29:46,150
  3245. and this is where
  3246. it still goes down.
  3247.  
  3248. 656
  3249. 00:29:47,886 --> 00:29:50,420
  3250. I've been collecting money
  3251. from all over the world.
  3252.  
  3253. 657
  3254. 00:29:50,422 --> 00:29:52,556
  3255. And it's just something
  3256. I did way before bitcoin.
  3257.  
  3258. 658
  3259. 00:29:52,558 --> 00:29:54,024
  3260. I've been doing it
  3261. since I was a kid.
  3262.  
  3263. 659
  3264. 00:29:54,026 --> 00:29:55,893
  3265. So it's funny that
  3266. I'm collecting all this...
  3267.  
  3268. 660
  3269. 00:29:55,895 --> 00:29:57,761
  3270. Fiat that's
  3271. not worth anything
  3272.  
  3273. 661
  3274. 00:29:57,763 --> 00:29:59,930
  3275. and then all of a sudden
  3276. I get into this bitcoin thing.
  3277.  
  3278. 662
  3279. 00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:03,934
  3280. <i> I realized</i>
  3281. <i> during high school that</i>
  3282.  
  3283. 663
  3284. 00:30:03,936 --> 00:30:06,203
  3285. <i> I could never work</i>
  3286. <i> for anyone.</i>
  3287.  
  3288. 664
  3289. 00:30:06,205 --> 00:30:07,604
  3290. <i> I made up a term--</i>
  3291.  
  3292. 665
  3293. 00:30:07,606 --> 00:30:09,573
  3294. psychologically unemployable.
  3295.  
  3296. 666
  3297. 00:30:09,575 --> 00:30:11,842
  3298. <i> I started bitinstant</i>
  3299. <i> while I was still</i>
  3300.  
  3301. 667
  3302. 00:30:11,844 --> 00:30:13,844
  3303. <i> in my senior year of college.</i>
  3304.  
  3305. 668
  3306. 00:30:13,846 --> 00:30:18,182
  3307. <i> Bitcoin currently is</i>
  3308. <i> the largest social-</i>
  3309. <i> economic experiment</i>
  3310.  
  3311. 669
  3312. 00:30:18,184 --> 00:30:20,184
  3313. <i> ever conducted</i>
  3314. <i> in the history of the world.</i>
  3315.  
  3316. 670
  3317. 00:30:20,186 --> 00:30:23,287
  3318. <i> 2013, possibly 2014,</i>
  3319.  
  3320. 671
  3321. 00:30:23,289 --> 00:30:25,622
  3322. <i> will be the two years</i>
  3323. <i> that really make </i>
  3324. <i> or break bitcoin.</i>
  3325.  
  3326. 672
  3327. 00:30:27,859 --> 00:30:30,894
  3328. <i> Bitcoin is the first product</i>
  3329. <i> that's digital,</i>
  3330.  
  3331. 673
  3332. 00:30:30,896 --> 00:30:32,262
  3333. <i> but it's also scarce.</i>
  3334.  
  3335. 674
  3336. 00:30:35,466 --> 00:30:38,302
  3337. <i> I got some good news</i>
  3338. <i> last night that</i>
  3339.  
  3340. 675
  3341. 00:30:38,304 --> 00:30:40,571
  3342. <i> part of our licensing deals</i>
  3343. <i> that we've been trying to do</i>
  3344.  
  3345. 676
  3346. 00:30:40,573 --> 00:30:42,039
  3347. <i> for the past</i>
  3348. <i> few months are finally,</i>
  3349.  
  3350. 677
  3351. 00:30:42,041 --> 00:30:43,540
  3352. <i> hopefully,</i>
  3353. <i> coming through.</i>
  3354.  
  3355. 678
  3356. 00:30:43,542 --> 00:30:45,809
  3357. We got approved
  3358. to be licensed
  3359.  
  3360. 679
  3361. 00:30:45,811 --> 00:30:48,345
  3362. in 30 of the 48 states
  3363. in money transmission.
  3364.  
  3365. 680
  3366. 00:30:50,281 --> 00:30:52,449
  3367. I've been working very hard
  3368. on trying to be compliant
  3369.  
  3370. 681
  3371. 00:30:52,451 --> 00:30:53,951
  3372. in the legal realm
  3373.  
  3374. 682
  3375. 00:30:53,953 --> 00:30:56,787
  3376. and with fincen's
  3377. announcement,
  3378.  
  3379. 683
  3380. 00:30:56,789 --> 00:30:59,923
  3381. setting up a way
  3382. for bitcoin companies
  3383. to legally exist,
  3384.  
  3385. 684
  3386. 00:30:59,925 --> 00:31:02,292
  3387. that really changes
  3388. the whole game of bitcoin.
  3389.  
  3390. 685
  3391. 00:31:02,294 --> 00:31:06,230
  3392. And for us,
  3393. it helped us get
  3394. that last push
  3395.  
  3396. 686
  3397. 00:31:06,232 --> 00:31:07,898
  3398. that we needed
  3399. from all the banks
  3400.  
  3401. 687
  3402. 00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:09,867
  3403. and the regulators
  3404. to finally, hopefully,
  3405.  
  3406. 688
  3407. 00:31:09,869 --> 00:31:11,335
  3408. get that licensing
  3409. that we need.
  3410.  
  3411. 689
  3412. 00:31:14,405 --> 00:31:17,040
  3413. Daniel:
  3414. <i> Today, Charlie's meeting</i>
  3415. <i> with a realtor</i>
  3416.  
  3417. 690
  3418. 00:31:17,042 --> 00:31:18,742
  3419. <i> to talk about</i>
  3420. <i> new office space.</i>
  3421.  
  3422. 691
  3423. 00:31:18,744 --> 00:31:20,911
  3424. Hi, Charlie,
  3425. nice to meet you.
  3426.  
  3427. 692
  3428. 00:31:20,913 --> 00:31:22,746
  3429. - Hi, I'm Mitch waldman.
  3430. How are you?
  3431. - A pleasure.
  3432.  
  3433. 693
  3434. 00:31:22,748 --> 00:31:25,249
  3435. - Got a minute?
  3436. - I have 10 minutes for you.
  3437.  
  3438. 694
  3439. 00:31:25,251 --> 00:31:27,918
  3440. We're-- we're a company
  3441. with no boss, essentially.
  3442.  
  3443. 695
  3444. 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,553
  3445. Everyone has
  3446. their responsibilities.
  3447.  
  3448. 696
  3449. 00:31:29,555 --> 00:31:31,388
  3450. It's just
  3451. one big executive board.
  3452.  
  3453. 697
  3454. 00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:32,923
  3455. - It's just one big
  3456. executive board.
  3457. - Okay.
  3458.  
  3459. 698
  3460. 00:31:32,925 --> 00:31:35,859
  3461. If I don't do my job,
  3462. these guys are all
  3463. gonna yell at me.
  3464.  
  3465. 699
  3466. 00:31:35,861 --> 00:31:38,362
  3467. -<i> So that's how we do it,</i>
  3468. <i> but we get things done. </i>
  3469. - Waldman:<i> All right.</i>
  3470.  
  3471. 700
  3472. 00:31:38,364 --> 00:31:40,297
  3473. We're outgrowing this space,
  3474. as you can see here.
  3475.  
  3476. 701
  3477. 00:31:40,299 --> 00:31:42,933
  3478. - That's a good problem to have.
  3479. - Shrem: Yes. ( Sighs )
  3480.  
  3481. 702
  3482. 00:31:42,935 --> 00:31:44,935
  3483. Now Rachel said
  3484. there was a great concern
  3485.  
  3486. 703
  3487. 00:31:44,937 --> 00:31:47,070
  3488. - about security
  3489. in this space.
  3490. - Shrem:<i> Yeah.</i>
  3491.  
  3492. 704
  3493. 00:31:47,072 --> 00:31:49,673
  3494. <i> We're regulated,</i>
  3495. <i> so we can't share an office</i>
  3496.  
  3497. 705
  3498. 00:31:49,675 --> 00:31:51,675
  3499. - with another company
  3500. if they have access to us.
  3501. - I get that.
  3502.  
  3503. 706
  3504. 00:31:51,677 --> 00:31:54,077
  3505. <i> Our asset is our software.</i>
  3506.  
  3507. 707
  3508. 00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:56,847
  3509. Our software is processing
  3510. hundreds of thousands
  3511. of dollars a day
  3512.  
  3513. 708
  3514. 00:31:56,849 --> 00:31:58,448
  3515. instantly.
  3516. Really quickly.
  3517.  
  3518. 709
  3519. 00:31:58,450 --> 00:32:00,684
  3520. And that's on-site here?
  3521. Or is it in the cloud?
  3522.  
  3523. 710
  3524. 00:32:00,686 --> 00:32:02,552
  3525. No, this is in the cloud.
  3526. It's all in the cloud,
  3527. but we monitor--
  3528.  
  3529. 711
  3530. 00:32:02,554 --> 00:32:04,288
  3531. we have to monitor
  3532. everything from here...
  3533.  
  3534. 712
  3535. 00:32:04,290 --> 00:32:06,790
  3536. - Right.
  3537. - ...And debug, fix,
  3538. take down, upload more--
  3539.  
  3540. 713
  3541. 00:32:06,792 --> 00:32:09,760
  3542. - put up more workers.
  3543. - We deal with high-volume
  3544. data-oriented stuff every day.
  3545.  
  3546. 714
  3547. 00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:11,295
  3548. Very very sensitive
  3549. customer data.
  3550.  
  3551. 715
  3552. 00:32:11,297 --> 00:32:13,764
  3553. Waldman:
  3554. <i> If there were not</i>
  3555. <i> a doorman,</i>
  3556.  
  3557. 716
  3558. 00:32:13,766 --> 00:32:16,099
  3559. at the very least
  3560. the space would be
  3561. designed in such a manner
  3562.  
  3563. 717
  3564. 00:32:16,101 --> 00:32:19,036
  3565. that there'd be
  3566. a locked reception area.
  3567.  
  3568. 718
  3569. 00:32:19,038 --> 00:32:21,204
  3570. If we want to pursue
  3571. a guard at some point,
  3572.  
  3573. 719
  3574. 00:32:21,206 --> 00:32:23,874
  3575. we could have them
  3576. in that area.
  3577.  
  3578. 720
  3579. 00:32:23,876 --> 00:32:25,709
  3580. -<i> ( Waldman speaks ) </i>
  3581. - I absolutely think
  3582.  
  3583. 721
  3584. 00:32:25,711 --> 00:32:28,045
  3585. - it will be at some point.
  3586. It's just a matter of time.
  3587. -<i> Really?</i>
  3588.  
  3589. 722
  3590. 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,948
  3591. <i> The potential</i>
  3592. <i> for theft is huge.</i>
  3593.  
  3594. 723
  3595. 00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:33,383
  3596. It's like operating
  3597. a bank, essentially.
  3598.  
  3599. 724
  3600. 00:32:33,385 --> 00:32:34,785
  3601. Shrem:
  3602. <i> That's pretty much it.</i>
  3603.  
  3604. 725
  3605. 00:32:34,787 --> 00:32:36,420
  3606. - Gotcha.
  3607. - It's basic stuff.
  3608.  
  3609. 726
  3610. 00:32:36,422 --> 00:32:38,522
  3611. Yup yup. All right.
  3612.  
  3613. 727
  3614. 00:32:38,524 --> 00:32:40,123
  3615. Any other words for me?
  3616.  
  3617. 728
  3618. 00:32:42,694 --> 00:32:44,995
  3619. - Okay.
  3620. - Are you willing
  3621. to handle the task?
  3622.  
  3623. 729
  3624. 00:32:48,032 --> 00:32:49,967
  3625. - Sign me up, captain.
  3626. - ( Laughs )
  3627.  
  3628. 730
  3629. 00:32:52,603 --> 00:32:57,007
  3630. Daniel:
  3631. <i> That night, the price</i>
  3632. <i> got as high as $266.</i>
  3633.  
  3634. 731
  3635. 00:32:57,009 --> 00:32:59,776
  3636. <i> Every major news outlet</i>
  3637. <i> had taken notice.</i>
  3638.  
  3639. 732
  3640. 00:32:59,778 --> 00:33:01,845
  3641. <i> Bitcoin fever was</i>
  3642. <i> at an all-time high.</i>
  3643.  
  3644. 733
  3645. 00:33:01,847 --> 00:33:03,613
  3646. It is getting
  3647. a lot of attention.
  3648.  
  3649. 734
  3650. 00:33:03,615 --> 00:33:05,682
  3651. People are fascinated
  3652. by anything that
  3653. makes new highs
  3654.  
  3655. 735
  3656. 00:33:05,684 --> 00:33:08,085
  3657. every day for weeks on end,
  3658. which bitcoin has done.
  3659.  
  3660. 736
  3661. 00:33:08,087 --> 00:33:09,353
  3662. In terms of the total number
  3663. of the people
  3664.  
  3665. 737
  3666. 00:33:09,355 --> 00:33:11,088
  3667. using the currency,
  3668. I'm not sure,
  3669.  
  3670. 738
  3671. 00:33:11,090 --> 00:33:12,589
  3672. but you can say
  3673. that there's a huge amount
  3674.  
  3675. 739
  3676. 00:33:12,591 --> 00:33:15,492
  3677. of fluctuation
  3678. in the volume of trading.
  3679.  
  3680. 740
  3681. 00:33:15,494 --> 00:33:17,928
  3682. Daniel:
  3683. <i> And then the price crashed.</i>
  3684.  
  3685. 741
  3686. 00:33:23,835 --> 00:33:25,902
  3687. <i> Bitcoin lost more</i>
  3688. <i> than half of its value</i>
  3689.  
  3690. 742
  3691. 00:33:25,904 --> 00:33:27,537
  3692. <i> in six hours.</i>
  3693.  
  3694. 743
  3695. 00:33:27,539 --> 00:33:30,207
  3696. From craze to crash.
  3697.  
  3698. 744
  3699. 00:33:30,209 --> 00:33:33,243
  3700. It's the talk of many people
  3701. in the blogosphere,
  3702.  
  3703. 745
  3704. 00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:36,246
  3705. and it's certainly suffering
  3706. some growing pains.
  3707.  
  3708. 746
  3709. 00:33:36,248 --> 00:33:40,017
  3710. The value of the virtual
  3711. currency bitcoin has plunged.
  3712.  
  3713. 747
  3714. 00:33:40,019 --> 00:33:41,118
  3715. It's been
  3716. a crazy day today.
  3717.  
  3718. 748
  3719. 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,253
  3720. I haven't slept
  3721. in like 40 hours.
  3722.  
  3723. 749
  3724. 00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:48,125
  3725. <i> Your order processed.</i>
  3726. <i> I don't understand</i>
  3727.  
  3728. 750
  3729. 00:33:48,127 --> 00:33:49,526
  3730. <i> why we're still having</i>
  3731. <i> this conversation.</i>
  3732.  
  3733. 751
  3734. 00:33:49,528 --> 00:33:52,062
  3735. <i> We refunded your order.</i>
  3736. <i> We sent you extra bitcoins.</i>
  3737.  
  3738. 752
  3739. 00:33:52,064 --> 00:33:53,397
  3740. Man on phone:
  3741. <i> I don't care, man.</i>
  3742.  
  3743. 753
  3744. 00:33:53,399 --> 00:33:55,565
  3745. <i> When it comes to my money,</i>
  3746. <i> I don't fuck around.</i>
  3747.  
  3748. 754
  3749. 00:33:55,567 --> 00:33:56,900
  3750. Shrem:
  3751. <i> I know, man.</i>
  3752. <i> You need your stuff.</i>
  3753.  
  3754. 755
  3755. 00:33:56,902 --> 00:33:58,635
  3756. <i> I hear ya, I hear ya.</i>
  3757. <i> It processed.</i>
  3758.  
  3759. 756
  3760. 00:33:58,637 --> 00:34:00,203
  3761. <i> Your bitcoins</i>
  3762. <i> are there, man.</i>
  3763.  
  3764. 757
  3765. 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,041
  3766. Nick:
  3767. <i> So, Charlie, what's been</i>
  3768. <i> going on today?</i>
  3769.  
  3770. 758
  3771. 00:34:04,043 --> 00:34:06,410
  3772. -<i> Crazy day, huh? </i>
  3773. - Yeah, mt. Gox--
  3774.  
  3775. 759
  3776. 00:34:06,412 --> 00:34:09,212
  3777. their whole system
  3778. pretty much failed
  3779.  
  3780. 760
  3781. 00:34:09,214 --> 00:34:11,448
  3782. and their whole
  3783. trading engine is broken.
  3784.  
  3785. 761
  3786. 00:34:11,450 --> 00:34:15,619
  3787. Pretty much caused-- almost--
  3788. us to shut down for the day.
  3789.  
  3790. 762
  3791. 00:34:15,621 --> 00:34:17,754
  3792. <i> Further, the bitcoin price</i>
  3793. <i> has just been</i>
  3794.  
  3795. 763
  3796. 00:34:17,756 --> 00:34:19,056
  3797. <i> wildly swinging up and down</i>
  3798.  
  3799. 764
  3800. 00:34:19,058 --> 00:34:21,358
  3801. it was down $100 today.
  3802.  
  3803. 765
  3804. 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,394
  3805. It's gaining back up,
  3806. but mostly because people
  3807. can't buy and sell
  3808.  
  3809. 766
  3810. 00:34:24,396 --> 00:34:26,196
  3811. and they can't withdraw
  3812. and they can't deposit.
  3813.  
  3814. 767
  3815. 00:34:26,198 --> 00:34:28,899
  3816. 'Cause the whole thing
  3817. is just-- it's just a Fritz.
  3818.  
  3819. 768
  3820. 00:34:28,901 --> 00:34:31,201
  3821. So what we're trying
  3822. to do is figure out a way
  3823.  
  3824. 769
  3825. 00:34:31,203 --> 00:34:33,770
  3826. <i> to mitigate orders</i>
  3827. <i> somewhere else for now.</i>
  3828.  
  3829. 770
  3830. 00:34:33,772 --> 00:34:36,106
  3831. Daniel:
  3832. <i> With mt. Gox stuck</i>
  3833. <i> in a nosedive,</i>
  3834.  
  3835. 771
  3836. 00:34:36,108 --> 00:34:39,376
  3837. <i> the ripple effect</i>
  3838. <i> is creating chaos</i>
  3839. <i> in the bitcoin markets.</i>
  3840.  
  3841. 772
  3842. 00:34:39,378 --> 00:34:42,012
  3843. <i> ( Man mutters )</i>
  3844.  
  3845. 773
  3846. 00:34:43,414 --> 00:34:44,848
  3847. Shrem:
  3848. <i> I'm trying to figure out</i>
  3849.  
  3850. 774
  3851. 00:34:44,850 --> 00:34:47,117
  3852. <i> why our orders</i>
  3853. <i> aren't going through.</i>
  3854.  
  3855. 775
  3856. 00:34:47,119 --> 00:34:48,718
  3857. Rachel, am I allowed
  3858. to take another advil
  3859.  
  3860. 776
  3861. 00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:50,554
  3862. if I took one
  3863. an hour ago?
  3864.  
  3865. 777
  3866. 00:34:50,556 --> 00:34:53,623
  3867. They've been having problems
  3868. ordering anything off of gox.
  3869.  
  3870. 778
  3871. 00:34:53,625 --> 00:34:55,859
  3872. Yeah, I'm getting a lot
  3873. of customers emailing,
  3874.  
  3875. 779
  3876. 00:34:55,861 --> 00:34:58,028
  3877. saying "it says 'executed,'
  3878. but it's not showing
  3879. in the blockchain."
  3880.  
  3881. 780
  3882. 00:34:58,030 --> 00:34:59,563
  3883. Shrem:
  3884. <i> Dude, gox suspended trading.</i>
  3885.  
  3886. 781
  3887. 00:34:59,565 --> 00:35:00,831
  3888. - Really?
  3889. - Yeah.
  3890.  
  3891. 782
  3892. 00:35:00,833 --> 00:35:02,732
  3893. "Orders placed
  3894. suspended until 2100."
  3895.  
  3896. 783
  3897. 00:35:02,734 --> 00:35:04,167
  3898. What time--
  3899. what's 2100?
  3900.  
  3901. 784
  3902. 00:35:04,169 --> 00:35:06,503
  3903. What? That's 9:00 P.M.
  3904. oh my God.
  3905.  
  3906. 785
  3907. 00:35:06,505 --> 00:35:08,305
  3908. ( Sighs )
  3909.  
  3910. 786
  3911. 00:35:16,914 --> 00:35:18,915
  3912. <i> ( People chattering )</i>
  3913.  
  3914. 787
  3915. 00:35:20,718 --> 00:35:21,985
  3916. If you bought at 150...
  3917.  
  3918. 788
  3919. 00:35:23,054 --> 00:35:25,288
  3920. And then you're at 260,
  3921.  
  3922. 789
  3923. 00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:28,225
  3924. and then you watch it
  3925. dip down back to 150,
  3926.  
  3927. 790
  3928. 00:35:28,227 --> 00:35:30,227
  3929. do you panic some?
  3930. Yeah, absolutely.
  3931.  
  3932. 791
  3933. 00:35:30,229 --> 00:35:32,095
  3934. I don't know what a bitcoin is.
  3935. I just bought it.
  3936.  
  3937. 792
  3938. 00:35:32,097 --> 00:35:33,897
  3939. ( Exasperated sigh )
  3940.  
  3941. 793
  3942. 00:35:33,899 --> 00:35:35,732
  3943. Fuck.
  3944.  
  3945. 794
  3946. 00:35:35,734 --> 00:35:37,234
  3947. You see buy orders,
  3948. people buying
  3949.  
  3950. 795
  3951. 00:35:37,236 --> 00:35:40,537
  3952. and selling
  3953. at such a wide range.
  3954.  
  3955. 796
  3956. 00:35:40,539 --> 00:35:42,372
  3957. It doesn't make
  3958. any sense.
  3959.  
  3960. 797
  3961. 00:35:42,374 --> 00:35:44,574
  3962. Shrem:
  3963. <i> The a.P.I. Is just</i>
  3964. <i> constantly failing?</i>
  3965.  
  3966. 798
  3967. 00:35:44,576 --> 00:35:46,910
  3968. <i> Is that what's going on?</i>
  3969. <i> Or are we're not getting</i>
  3970. <i> any orders.</i>
  3971.  
  3972. 799
  3973. 00:35:53,551 --> 00:35:55,919
  3974. <i> ( Bird chirping )</i>
  3975.  
  3976. 800
  3977. 00:35:55,921 --> 00:35:58,021
  3978. Daniel:
  3979. <i> Don't care about the price.</i>
  3980.  
  3981. 801
  3982. 00:35:58,023 --> 00:35:59,856
  3983. Speculators can play
  3984. musical chairs
  3985.  
  3986. 802
  3987. 00:35:59,858 --> 00:36:01,558
  3988. all day long
  3989. for all I care.
  3990.  
  3991. 803
  3992. 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,660
  3993. I'm-I'm-- I'm long.
  3994.  
  3995. 804
  3996. 00:36:05,963 --> 00:36:08,932
  3997. <i> I was focused on expanding</i>
  3998. <i> my mining operation.</i>
  3999.  
  4000. 805
  4001. 00:36:10,868 --> 00:36:13,069
  4002. <i> The only people that</i>
  4003. <i> are gonna be shaken out</i>
  4004.  
  4005. 806
  4006. 00:36:13,071 --> 00:36:14,905
  4007. <i> by this drop</i>
  4008.  
  4009. 807
  4010. 00:36:14,907 --> 00:36:17,340
  4011. <i> are people that</i>
  4012. <i> are new to bitcoin.</i>
  4013.  
  4014. 808
  4015. 00:36:17,342 --> 00:36:20,177
  4016. Here's the avalons,
  4017. spinning away,
  4018.  
  4019. 809
  4020. 00:36:20,179 --> 00:36:21,711
  4021. mining away.
  4022.  
  4023. 810
  4024. 00:36:21,713 --> 00:36:23,847
  4025. And if everything
  4026. goes as planned,
  4027.  
  4028. 811
  4029. 00:36:23,849 --> 00:36:25,749
  4030. we'll have 18 more
  4031. of these guys
  4032.  
  4033. 812
  4034. 00:36:25,751 --> 00:36:28,084
  4035. <i> in a couple of weeks.</i>
  4036.  
  4037. 813
  4038. 00:36:28,086 --> 00:36:30,053
  4039. <i> Bitcoin is</i>
  4040. <i> a complicated thing.</i>
  4041.  
  4042. 814
  4043. 00:36:30,055 --> 00:36:31,588
  4044. You have to spend
  4045. some time looking into it
  4046.  
  4047. 815
  4048. 00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:33,557
  4049. and understanding it
  4050. before you really care.
  4051.  
  4052. 816
  4053. 00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:36,092
  4054. Now there's droves
  4055. of people that--
  4056.  
  4057. 817
  4058. 00:36:36,094 --> 00:36:38,028
  4059. you know, are giving it more
  4060. than just that glance,
  4061.  
  4062. 818
  4063. 00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:40,230
  4064. because the price
  4065. has gone so high.
  4066.  
  4067. 819
  4068. 00:36:40,232 --> 00:36:43,066
  4069. And they have
  4070. dollar signs in their eyes
  4071. like Uncle scrooge.
  4072.  
  4073. 820
  4074. 00:36:43,068 --> 00:36:45,335
  4075. <i> It's so much more than that,</i>
  4076.  
  4077. 821
  4078. 00:36:45,337 --> 00:36:47,337
  4079. <i> and I think that's why</i>
  4080. <i> the people who are mining</i>
  4081.  
  4082. 822
  4083. 00:36:47,339 --> 00:36:49,072
  4084. <i> and the people</i>
  4085. <i> who believe in it</i>
  4086.  
  4087. 823
  4088. 00:36:49,074 --> 00:36:50,674
  4089. <i> are just</i>
  4090. <i> kind of holding strong.</i>
  4091.  
  4092. 824
  4093. 00:36:53,878 --> 00:36:56,213
  4094. <i> When trading resumed</i>
  4095. <i> at mt. Gox,</i>
  4096.  
  4097. 825
  4098. 00:36:56,215 --> 00:36:59,416
  4099. <i> the price fell</i>
  4100. <i> even further, to around $70.</i>
  4101.  
  4102. 826
  4103. 00:36:59,418 --> 00:37:01,851
  4104. 71 on b.T.C.-E.
  4105.  
  4106. 827
  4107. 00:37:05,456 --> 00:37:07,357
  4108. Yeah, bitcoin--
  4109. it's volatile.
  4110.  
  4111. 828
  4112. 00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:10,794
  4113. It's gonna be a long time
  4114. until we have stability.
  4115.  
  4116. 829
  4117. 00:37:10,796 --> 00:37:12,062
  4118. That's the nature
  4119. of the beast.
  4120.  
  4121. 830
  4122. 00:37:12,064 --> 00:37:16,199
  4123. Price discovery can be
  4124. violent and volatile.
  4125.  
  4126. 831
  4127. 00:37:16,201 --> 00:37:19,436
  4128. There's gonna be a lot
  4129. of people that come and go,
  4130.  
  4131. 832
  4132. 00:37:19,438 --> 00:37:21,638
  4133. and people
  4134. that scream wolf.
  4135.  
  4136. 833
  4137. 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,406
  4138. <i> But at the end of the day,</i>
  4139.  
  4140. 834
  4141. 00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:26,243
  4142. <i> the only thing</i>
  4143. <i> that really kind of</i>
  4144. <i> stinks right now</i>
  4145.  
  4146. 835
  4147. 00:37:26,245 --> 00:37:28,878
  4148. <i> is that everybody is</i>
  4149. <i> trading on one platform</i>
  4150.  
  4151. 836
  4152. 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,780
  4153. that isn't doing
  4154. the greatest job, so...
  4155.  
  4156. 837
  4157. 00:37:30,782 --> 00:37:34,784
  4158. Over time, hopefully
  4159. we'll see some more
  4160. exchanges pop up
  4161.  
  4162. 838
  4163. 00:37:34,786 --> 00:37:36,419
  4164. and get
  4165. some more options in.
  4166.  
  4167. 839
  4168. 00:37:36,421 --> 00:37:38,288
  4169. People wanna keep
  4170. using bitcoin,
  4171.  
  4172. 840
  4173. 00:37:38,290 --> 00:37:40,590
  4174. I'm sure the infrastructure
  4175. will come.
  4176.  
  4177. 841
  4178. 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,401
  4179. <i> ( Bird chirping )</i>
  4180.  
  4181. 842
  4182. 00:38:01,379 --> 00:38:02,946
  4183. It's just gotten
  4184. ridiculously busy.
  4185.  
  4186. 843
  4187. 00:38:04,515 --> 00:38:06,416
  4188. I get an email
  4189. every two seconds now
  4190.  
  4191. 844
  4192. 00:38:06,418 --> 00:38:09,552
  4193. - and pretty much
  4194. more email than I--
  4195. -<i> ( Lock buzzes )</i>
  4196.  
  4197. 845
  4198. 00:38:09,554 --> 00:38:11,521
  4199. --Than I can keep up with.
  4200.  
  4201. 846
  4202. 00:38:11,523 --> 00:38:14,691
  4203. Daniel:
  4204. <i> Jered kenna is</i>
  4205. <i> the c.E.O. Of tradehill.</i>
  4206.  
  4207. 847
  4208. 00:38:14,693 --> 00:38:16,760
  4209. <i> The first U.S.-based</i>
  4210. <i> bitcoin exchange</i>
  4211.  
  4212. 848
  4213. 00:38:16,762 --> 00:38:18,762
  4214. <i> to compete with mt. Gox.</i>
  4215.  
  4216. 849
  4217. 00:38:18,764 --> 00:38:20,930
  4218. <i> He's also on the list</i>
  4219. <i> of bitcoin millionaires.</i>
  4220.  
  4221. 850
  4222. 00:38:22,433 --> 00:38:24,367
  4223. - ( Barks )
  4224. - This is finnegan right here.
  4225.  
  4226. 851
  4227. 00:38:24,369 --> 00:38:26,369
  4228. Guard dog.
  4229. Hey, finnegan.
  4230.  
  4231. 852
  4232. 00:38:26,371 --> 00:38:28,171
  4233. ( Mimics growl )
  4234.  
  4235. 853
  4236. 00:38:28,173 --> 00:38:30,006
  4237. Daniel:
  4238. <i> Jered runs tradehill</i>
  4239.  
  4240. 854
  4241. 00:38:30,008 --> 00:38:32,042
  4242. <i> out of a 41-bedroom</i>
  4243. <i> residential hotel</i>
  4244.  
  4245. 855
  4246. 00:38:32,044 --> 00:38:34,411
  4247. <i> called 20 mission</i>
  4248. <i> that he also owns.</i>
  4249.  
  4250. 856
  4251. 00:38:34,413 --> 00:38:36,413
  4252. ( Whirring )
  4253.  
  4254. 857
  4255. 00:38:41,419 --> 00:38:44,020
  4256. We mostly rent out rooms
  4257. to tech people,
  4258. startup people.
  4259.  
  4260. 858
  4261. 00:38:44,022 --> 00:38:45,522
  4262. There's a lot
  4263. of bitcoiners.
  4264.  
  4265. 859
  4266. 00:38:45,524 --> 00:38:47,190
  4267. <i> I actually accept rent</i>
  4268. <i> in bitcoin,</i>
  4269.  
  4270. 860
  4271. 00:38:47,192 --> 00:38:49,192
  4272. which is great,
  4273. because we have a lot
  4274. of international people.
  4275.  
  4276. 861
  4277. 00:38:49,194 --> 00:38:52,095
  4278. <i> ( Acoustic guitar playing )</i>
  4279.  
  4280. 862
  4281. 00:38:52,097 --> 00:38:54,931
  4282. - ¶ Bitcoin! ¶
  4283. - ( Laughs )
  4284.  
  4285. 863
  4286. 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,769
  4287. ¶ Came to us
  4288. from the cryptogram ¶
  4289.  
  4290. 864
  4291. 00:38:59,771 --> 00:39:03,340
  4292. ¶ it came out of thin air ¶
  4293.  
  4294. 865
  4295. 00:39:03,342 --> 00:39:06,710
  4296. ¶ it saved us
  4297. from those nasty dollars ¶
  4298.  
  4299. 866
  4300. 00:39:06,712 --> 00:39:08,311
  4301. ¶ and won and yen ¶
  4302.  
  4303. 867
  4304. 00:39:10,281 --> 00:39:12,282
  4305. ¶ bitcoin. ¶
  4306.  
  4307. 868
  4308. 00:39:12,284 --> 00:39:14,384
  4309. - that's all I got.
  4310. I'm done.
  4311. - ( Mutters )
  4312.  
  4313. 869
  4314. 00:39:14,386 --> 00:39:15,919
  4315. ( Laughter )
  4316.  
  4317. 870
  4318. 00:39:17,221 --> 00:39:19,089
  4319. Digital currency
  4320. is gonna happen.
  4321.  
  4322. 871
  4323. 00:39:19,091 --> 00:39:21,558
  4324. I mean, it's--
  4325. it already is
  4326. happening,
  4327.  
  4328. 872
  4329. 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,594
  4330. and it will be
  4331. the future,
  4332.  
  4333. 873
  4334. 00:39:24,596 --> 00:39:26,363
  4335. whether that's now,
  4336.  
  4337. 874
  4338. 00:39:26,365 --> 00:39:28,498
  4339. 10 years from now,
  4340. a hundred years from now.
  4341.  
  4342. 875
  4343. 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:30,667
  4344. We're going to be using
  4345. digital currencies
  4346.  
  4347. 876
  4348. 00:39:30,669 --> 00:39:32,635
  4349. that don't depend
  4350. on fiat government.
  4351.  
  4352. 877
  4353. 00:39:32,637 --> 00:39:37,006
  4354. Daniel:
  4355. <i> Jered originally launched</i>
  4356. <i> tradehill about two years ago,</i>
  4357.  
  4358. 878
  4359. 00:39:37,008 --> 00:39:38,842
  4360. <i> but ran into problems</i>
  4361. <i> with a payment processor</i>
  4362.  
  4363. 879
  4364. 00:39:38,844 --> 00:39:40,443
  4365. <i> and was forced</i>
  4366. <i> to shut down.</i>
  4367.  
  4368. 880
  4369. 00:39:42,012 --> 00:39:44,047
  4370. <i> Recently</i>
  4371. <i> he met Ryan singer</i>
  4372.  
  4373. 881
  4374. 00:39:44,049 --> 00:39:46,583
  4375. <i> and together they are</i>
  4376. <i> relaunching the exchange.</i>
  4377.  
  4378. 882
  4379. 00:39:46,585 --> 00:39:47,717
  4380. The business
  4381. we're in is
  4382.  
  4383. 883
  4384. 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,185
  4385. helping people
  4386. speculate, right?
  4387.  
  4388. 884
  4389. 00:39:49,187 --> 00:39:50,754
  4390. Markets are
  4391.  
  4392. 885
  4393. 00:39:50,756 --> 00:39:52,422
  4394. price discovery mechanisms.
  4395.  
  4396. 886
  4397. 00:39:52,424 --> 00:39:53,690
  4398. That's what they're for.
  4399.  
  4400. 887
  4401. 00:39:53,692 --> 00:39:55,825
  4402. People--
  4403. they buy, they sell,
  4404.  
  4405. 888
  4406. 00:39:55,827 --> 00:39:57,394
  4407. there's the bid,
  4408. there's the ask
  4409.  
  4410. 889
  4411. 00:39:57,396 --> 00:40:00,363
  4412. and the price moves.
  4413. And when it levels out,
  4414.  
  4415. 890
  4416. 00:40:00,365 --> 00:40:02,265
  4417. then that's what
  4418. the market price is.
  4419.  
  4420. 891
  4421. 00:40:02,267 --> 00:40:04,534
  4422. I can't even count the amount
  4423. of people that have said,
  4424.  
  4425. 892
  4426. 00:40:04,536 --> 00:40:06,069
  4427. "bitcoin's not backed
  4428. by anything.
  4429.  
  4430. 893
  4431. 00:40:06,071 --> 00:40:07,937
  4432. At least dollars
  4433. are backed by gold."
  4434.  
  4435. 894
  4436. 00:40:07,939 --> 00:40:10,240
  4437. <i> I've realized that a lot</i>
  4438. <i> of people believe that.</i>
  4439.  
  4440. 895
  4441. 00:40:11,876 --> 00:40:13,610
  4442. <i> My grandfather,</i>
  4443. <i> he got me into investing</i>
  4444.  
  4445. 896
  4446. 00:40:13,612 --> 00:40:14,944
  4447. <i> when I was a kid.</i>
  4448. <i> I was five years old.</i>
  4449.  
  4450. 897
  4451. 00:40:14,946 --> 00:40:16,780
  4452. <i> I could explain a p/e ratio,</i>
  4453.  
  4454. 898
  4455. 00:40:16,782 --> 00:40:19,115
  4456. <i> and what a bid</i>
  4457. <i> and an ask was,</i>
  4458.  
  4459. 899
  4460. 00:40:19,117 --> 00:40:20,884
  4461. and the difference
  4462. between a limit order
  4463. and a market order
  4464.  
  4465. 900
  4466. 00:40:20,886 --> 00:40:22,285
  4467. and all that stuff,
  4468. so for me,
  4469.  
  4470. 901
  4471. 00:40:22,287 --> 00:40:24,220
  4472. I saw this as a way
  4473. that the average person
  4474.  
  4475. 902
  4476. 00:40:24,222 --> 00:40:25,955
  4477. could actually take control
  4478. of their finances.
  4479.  
  4480. 903
  4481. 00:40:25,957 --> 00:40:28,358
  4482. <i> I just grew up</i>
  4483. <i> pretty nerdy.</i>
  4484.  
  4485. 904
  4486. 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,428
  4487. I don't know.
  4488. Then like at 15 years old,
  4489.  
  4490. 905
  4491. 00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:33,129
  4492. I decided I didn't want
  4493. to be a nerd anymore,
  4494.  
  4495. 906
  4496. 00:40:33,131 --> 00:40:36,366
  4497. which was a mistake...
  4498. 'Cause...
  4499.  
  4500. 907
  4501. 00:40:38,102 --> 00:40:39,669
  4502. 'Cause now I realize
  4503. it's pretty awesome.
  4504.  
  4505. 908
  4506. 00:40:41,472 --> 00:40:44,073
  4507. <i> In 1999</i>
  4508. <i> I joined the marines.</i>
  4509.  
  4510. 909
  4511. 00:40:44,075 --> 00:40:46,443
  4512. <i> I was originally</i>
  4513. <i> with an engineering unit.</i>
  4514.  
  4515. 910
  4516. 00:40:47,845 --> 00:40:49,712
  4517. <i> 2005, I went over</i>
  4518. <i> to Afghanistan.</i>
  4519.  
  4520. 911
  4521. 00:40:49,714 --> 00:40:52,182
  4522. <i> I was mostly working</i>
  4523. <i> with the Afghan national army.</i>
  4524.  
  4525. 912
  4526. 00:40:52,184 --> 00:40:54,317
  4527. <i> It changed me a lot</i>
  4528. <i> as a person.</i>
  4529.  
  4530. 913
  4531. 00:40:56,987 --> 00:40:58,755
  4532. I've always been interested
  4533. in economics
  4534.  
  4535. 914
  4536. 00:40:58,757 --> 00:41:00,924
  4537. and finance and technology
  4538. and cryptography.
  4539.  
  4540. 915
  4541. 00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:03,927
  4542. <i> I was</i>
  4543. <i> in a cryptography forum</i>
  4544.  
  4545. 916
  4546. 00:41:03,929 --> 00:41:06,095
  4547. <i> and somebody I'd never met--</i>
  4548. <i> who was anonymously</i>
  4549.  
  4550. 917
  4551. 00:41:06,097 --> 00:41:07,597
  4552. <i> in this forum</i>
  4553. <i> that I was chatting with--</i>
  4554.  
  4555. 918
  4556. 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:09,065
  4557. <i> sent me 10,000 bitcoins</i>
  4558.  
  4559. 919
  4560. 00:41:09,067 --> 00:41:11,267
  4561. <i> just as a way to test</i>
  4562. <i> the system out</i>
  4563.  
  4564. 920
  4565. 00:41:11,269 --> 00:41:12,836
  4566. and see how it worked,
  4567. and I got 'em.
  4568.  
  4569. 921
  4570. 00:41:12,838 --> 00:41:14,571
  4571. I'm like, "that's cool,
  4572. but what can I do with them?"
  4573.  
  4574. 922
  4575. 00:41:14,573 --> 00:41:17,040
  4576. And he said,
  4577. "well, nothing yet, but...
  4578.  
  4579. 923
  4580. 00:41:17,042 --> 00:41:19,442
  4581. If people believe
  4582. it has value, it will."
  4583.  
  4584. 924
  4585. 00:41:19,444 --> 00:41:22,412
  4586. <i> At the time, there was really</i>
  4587. <i> only one bitcoin exchange</i>
  4588.  
  4589. 925
  4590. 00:41:22,414 --> 00:41:25,014
  4591. <i> it was mt. Gox.</i>
  4592. <i> I said, "we need</i>
  4593. <i> an alternative.</i>
  4594.  
  4595. 926
  4596. 00:41:25,016 --> 00:41:27,016
  4597. Who cares if the technology
  4598. is decentralized
  4599.  
  4600. 927
  4601. 00:41:27,018 --> 00:41:28,551
  4602. and the method of transfer
  4603. is decentralized
  4604.  
  4605. 928
  4606. 00:41:28,553 --> 00:41:30,186
  4607. and the people are
  4608. decentralized
  4609.  
  4610. 929
  4611. 00:41:30,188 --> 00:41:32,155
  4612. if all the trades are
  4613. in the same location?"
  4614.  
  4615. 930
  4616. 00:41:32,157 --> 00:41:34,657
  4617. <i> I thought that building</i>
  4618. <i> another exchange</i>
  4619.  
  4620. 931
  4621. 00:41:34,659 --> 00:41:36,092
  4622. <i> to give more people</i>
  4623. <i> access to bitcoin</i>
  4624.  
  4625. 932
  4626. 00:41:36,094 --> 00:41:39,028
  4627. <i> would be a key part</i>
  4628. <i> of bitcoin's growth.</i>
  4629.  
  4630. 933
  4631. 00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:42,098
  4632. The day we launched,
  4633. we got a quarter-million
  4634. dollars in from user deposits.
  4635.  
  4636. 934
  4637. 00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:45,368
  4638. And we said,
  4639. "oh shit, this is--
  4640. this is real.
  4641.  
  4642. 935
  4643. 00:41:45,370 --> 00:41:46,569
  4644. Yeah.
  4645.  
  4646. 936
  4647. 00:41:47,605 --> 00:41:49,072
  4648. Hey.
  4649.  
  4650. 937
  4651. 00:41:50,941 --> 00:41:53,009
  4652. We're all fans
  4653. of "the big lebowski,"
  4654.  
  4655. 938
  4656. 00:41:53,011 --> 00:41:55,445
  4657. so we're gonna have
  4658. a "big lebowski" party.
  4659.  
  4660. 939
  4661. 00:41:55,447 --> 00:41:56,980
  4662. Nice!
  4663.  
  4664. 940
  4665. 00:41:58,616 --> 00:42:02,085
  4666. It's a...
  4667. Very exciting day.
  4668.  
  4669. 941
  4670. 00:42:02,087 --> 00:42:05,855
  4671. <i> 30 gallons of white Russian</i>
  4672. <i> and hallway bowling.</i>
  4673.  
  4674. 942
  4675. 00:42:05,857 --> 00:42:09,225
  4676. - ( Man shouts )
  4677. - Yeah!
  4678.  
  4679. 943
  4680. 00:42:09,227 --> 00:42:11,594
  4681. Kenna:
  4682. <i> We work hard,</i>
  4683. <i> but we party hard too.</i>
  4684.  
  4685. 944
  4686. 00:42:11,596 --> 00:42:14,163
  4687. Okay.
  4688. Okay, I'm good.
  4689.  
  4690. 945
  4691. 00:42:14,165 --> 00:42:16,266
  4692. - Woman:<i> All right. </i>
  4693. - I'm good. I'm not dead.
  4694.  
  4695. 946
  4696. 00:42:16,268 --> 00:42:18,234
  4697. <i> - ( Rock music playing )</i>
  4698. <i> - ( People chattering )</i>
  4699.  
  4700. 947
  4701. 00:42:21,872 --> 00:42:23,673
  4702. Yeah, I'm
  4703. the first one
  4704. in the house...
  4705.  
  4706. 948
  4707. 00:42:25,042 --> 00:42:27,844
  4708. That opened
  4709. a tradehill account.
  4710.  
  4711. 949
  4712. 00:42:51,802 --> 00:42:53,403
  4713. Woman:
  4714. <i> What happened?</i>
  4715.  
  4716. 950
  4717. 00:42:55,873 --> 00:42:57,574
  4718. In the same day
  4719. they went down to 90--
  4720.  
  4721. 951
  4722. 00:42:57,576 --> 00:43:00,710
  4723. $65 or something,
  4724. or $90 a bitcoin.
  4725.  
  4726. 952
  4727. 00:43:00,712 --> 00:43:03,947
  4728. I stopped smiling.
  4729. ( Laughs )
  4730.  
  4731. 953
  4732. 00:43:12,356 --> 00:43:15,024
  4733. Kenna:
  4734. <i> Tradehill, round two,</i>
  4735. <i> we optimized for success.</i>
  4736.  
  4737. 954
  4738. 00:43:15,026 --> 00:43:16,993
  4739. <i> We launched expecting</i>
  4740. <i> to have to do</i>
  4741.  
  4742. 955
  4743. 00:43:16,995 --> 00:43:18,795
  4744. hundreds of thousands
  4745. of transactions a second.
  4746.  
  4747. 956
  4748. 00:43:20,397 --> 00:43:22,599
  4749. <i> Right now we've got</i>
  4750. <i> about 15 people</i>
  4751.  
  4752. 957
  4753. 00:43:22,601 --> 00:43:25,535
  4754. <i> in addition to that,</i>
  4755. <i> we've got about eight</i>
  4756. <i> attorneys externally.</i>
  4757.  
  4758. 958
  4759. 00:43:25,537 --> 00:43:27,737
  4760. A lot of people are
  4761. depositing dollars.
  4762.  
  4763. 959
  4764. 00:43:27,739 --> 00:43:29,706
  4765. A lot of people
  4766. are depositing bitcoin.
  4767. We're getting more trading.
  4768.  
  4769. 960
  4770. 00:43:29,708 --> 00:43:31,608
  4771. We're pushing that
  4772. from a business perspective.
  4773.  
  4774. 961
  4775. 00:43:31,610 --> 00:43:33,276
  4776. <i> Also, we're talking to people</i>
  4777.  
  4778. 962
  4779. 00:43:33,278 --> 00:43:35,678
  4780. <i> who want to do more automated</i>
  4781. <i> trading on our platform.</i>
  4782.  
  4783. 963
  4784. 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,747
  4785. Get robots trading
  4786. against each other.
  4787.  
  4788. 964
  4789. 00:43:37,749 --> 00:43:39,082
  4790. We've stress tested this
  4791.  
  4792. 965
  4793. 00:43:39,084 --> 00:43:43,419
  4794. and we can handle about
  4795. 500 times as much volume
  4796.  
  4797. 966
  4798. 00:43:43,421 --> 00:43:45,054
  4799. <i> as mt. Gox was seeing.</i>
  4800.  
  4801. 967
  4802. 00:43:45,056 --> 00:43:46,956
  4803. So we'll see
  4804. what happens here.
  4805.  
  4806. 968
  4807. 00:43:46,958 --> 00:43:49,892
  4808. The interest in us
  4809. is pretty crazy.
  4810.  
  4811. 969
  4812. 00:43:49,894 --> 00:43:52,729
  4813. <i> Just the news</i>
  4814. <i> with bitcoin</i>
  4815.  
  4816. 970
  4817. 00:43:52,731 --> 00:43:55,398
  4818. <i> has really kind</i>
  4819. <i> of validated everything.</i>
  4820.  
  4821. 971
  4822. 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,600
  4823. Now people are like,
  4824. "oh, you're not this
  4825. crazy person
  4826.  
  4827. 972
  4828. 00:43:57,602 --> 00:43:59,736
  4829. talking about some
  4830. digital made-up currency."
  4831.  
  4832. 973
  4833. 00:43:59,738 --> 00:44:02,605
  4834. It's like,
  4835. "oh, I've read about it
  4836. in 'the wall street journal'
  4837.  
  4838. 974
  4839. 00:44:02,607 --> 00:44:04,273
  4840. and 'the New York times.'
  4841. It's real."
  4842.  
  4843. 975
  4844. 00:44:04,275 --> 00:44:06,409
  4845. Kenna:
  4846. <i> We had an investor come in</i>
  4847.  
  4848. 976
  4849. 00:44:06,411 --> 00:44:08,311
  4850. <i> and he said,</i>
  4851. <i> "hey, I really appreciate</i>
  4852.  
  4853. 977
  4854. 00:44:08,313 --> 00:44:10,647
  4855. <i> your scrappy nature</i>
  4856. <i> and how you're hustling,</i>
  4857.  
  4858. 978
  4859. 00:44:10,649 --> 00:44:13,383
  4860. but I think it's time
  4861. for you guys to spend
  4862. 30 grand a month on rent.
  4863.  
  4864. 979
  4865. 00:44:13,385 --> 00:44:15,985
  4866. When you have
  4867. a billionaire client
  4868.  
  4869. 980
  4870. 00:44:15,987 --> 00:44:17,387
  4871. and they want to come
  4872. check out your office
  4873.  
  4874. 981
  4875. 00:44:17,389 --> 00:44:19,589
  4876. before they send you
  4877. a multi-million dollar wire,
  4878.  
  4879. 982
  4880. 00:44:19,591 --> 00:44:21,691
  4881. asking them
  4882. to walk past pawn shops
  4883.  
  4884. 983
  4885. 00:44:21,693 --> 00:44:23,660
  4886. - is not always the right feel.
  4887. -<i> ( Laughter )</i>
  4888.  
  4889. 984
  4890. 00:44:27,731 --> 00:44:30,667
  4891. So we're leaving
  4892. the mission. We're driving
  4893. into soma right now.
  4894.  
  4895. 985
  4896. 00:44:30,669 --> 00:44:34,504
  4897. We're gonna go
  4898. take a look at what
  4899. may be our new office space
  4900.  
  4901. 986
  4902. 00:44:34,506 --> 00:44:36,906
  4903. pretty prestigious address--
  4904. one market.
  4905.  
  4906. 987
  4907. 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,248
  4908. <i> Right now we're trying</i>
  4909. <i> to forge this path,</i>
  4910.  
  4911. 988
  4912. 00:44:45,250 --> 00:44:47,417
  4913. <i> and we're trying to comply</i>
  4914. <i> with existing laws</i>
  4915.  
  4916. 989
  4917. 00:44:47,419 --> 00:44:49,018
  4918. <i> and anticipate</i>
  4919. <i> future laws,</i>
  4920.  
  4921. 990
  4922. 00:44:49,020 --> 00:44:52,255
  4923. <i> which is extremely expensive</i>
  4924. <i> and extremely difficult.</i>
  4925.  
  4926. 991
  4927. 00:44:52,257 --> 00:44:53,690
  4928. - Is there parking here?
  4929. - Man:<i> Yes.</i>
  4930.  
  4931. 992
  4932. 00:44:53,692 --> 00:44:55,224
  4933. Okay, is that
  4934. included with--
  4935.  
  4936. 993
  4937. 00:44:55,226 --> 00:44:57,160
  4938. ( chuckles )
  4939. Of course.
  4940.  
  4941. 994
  4942. 00:44:57,162 --> 00:44:59,562
  4943. - Right, what does that--
  4944. how much does--
  4945. - ( Laughs )
  4946.  
  4947. 995
  4948. 00:44:59,564 --> 00:45:00,596
  4949. How much does that cost?
  4950.  
  4951. 996
  4952. 00:45:03,534 --> 00:45:04,333
  4953. That's not terrible.
  4954.  
  4955. 997
  4956. 00:45:05,903 --> 00:45:07,437
  4957. Whoa.
  4958.  
  4959. 998
  4960. 00:45:07,439 --> 00:45:09,338
  4961. That's pretty sexy.
  4962.  
  4963. 999
  4964. 00:45:12,009 --> 00:45:13,676
  4965. Twitter was here
  4966. for over a year.
  4967.  
  4968. 1000
  4969. 00:45:13,678 --> 00:45:16,145
  4970. - Yeah.
  4971. - Amazon comes and go
  4972. every single year.
  4973.  
  4974. 1001
  4975. 00:45:16,147 --> 00:45:18,381
  4976. - Oh, fantastic.
  4977. - I have Macy's, I have
  4978. j.C. Penney.
  4979.  
  4980. 1002
  4981. 00:45:18,383 --> 00:45:20,349
  4982. All the big ones,
  4983. they come over.
  4984.  
  4985. 1003
  4986. 00:45:20,351 --> 00:45:21,084
  4987. They are part
  4988. of the club.
  4989.  
  4990. 1004
  4991. 00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:28,224
  4992. Kenna:
  4993. Sounds good.
  4994. We'll be here tomorrow.
  4995.  
  4996. 1005
  4997. 00:45:28,226 --> 00:45:29,325
  4998. - Picking it up.
  4999. - Thank you for the business.
  5000.  
  5001. 1006
  5002. 00:45:29,327 --> 00:45:30,259
  5003. - Thank you.
  5004. - I appreciate it.
  5005.  
  5006. 1007
  5007. 00:45:30,261 --> 00:45:32,161
  5008. Thanks so much.
  5009.  
  5010. 1008
  5011. 00:45:32,163 --> 00:45:33,830
  5012. - We move in tomorrow.
  5013. - Nick:<i> Just like--</i>
  5014.  
  5015. 1009
  5016. 00:45:33,832 --> 00:45:35,398
  5017. -<i> just like that, huh? </i>
  5018. - Just like that.
  5019.  
  5020. 1010
  5021. 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,933
  5022. - That's how we roll.
  5023. - Nick:<i> It's pretty surprising</i>
  5024.  
  5025. 1011
  5026. 00:45:36,935 --> 00:45:38,234
  5027. <i> that that deal</i>
  5028. <i> just happened so quickly.</i>
  5029.  
  5030. 1012
  5031. 00:45:38,236 --> 00:45:39,836
  5032. <i> What was it?</i>
  5033. <i> You just liked the space</i>
  5034.  
  5035. 1013
  5036. 00:45:39,838 --> 00:45:40,970
  5037. <i> and decided, "hey,</i>
  5038. <i> there's no point in waiting"?</i>
  5039.  
  5040. 1014
  5041. 00:45:40,972 --> 00:45:43,039
  5042. We like the space,
  5043. we like the address.
  5044.  
  5045. 1015
  5046. 00:45:43,041 --> 00:45:44,741
  5047. We just don't have
  5048. the time to spend either.
  5049.  
  5050. 1016
  5051. 00:45:44,743 --> 00:45:46,342
  5052. We've got all kinds
  5053. of important stuff
  5054. we're working on
  5055.  
  5056. 1017
  5057. 00:45:46,344 --> 00:45:49,011
  5058. and if we spend a week
  5059. trying to find an office,
  5060.  
  5061. 1018
  5062. 00:45:49,013 --> 00:45:50,780
  5063. and he and I put
  5064. 20 hours into it
  5065.  
  5066. 1019
  5067. 00:45:50,782 --> 00:45:53,049
  5068. or 50 hours into it,
  5069. it's a huge waste of time.
  5070.  
  5071. 1020
  5072. 00:46:11,869 --> 00:46:14,670
  5073. I thought they'd be
  5074. in multiple bags
  5075.  
  5076. 1021
  5077. 00:46:14,672 --> 00:46:16,739
  5078. rather than one big one,
  5079. but hey...
  5080.  
  5081. 1022
  5082. 00:46:22,479 --> 00:46:26,015
  5083. <i> I believe that bitcoin</i>
  5084. <i>will do to the banking industry</i>
  5085.  
  5086. 1023
  5087. 00:46:26,017 --> 00:46:27,650
  5088. what email did
  5089. to the postal service.
  5090.  
  5091. 1024
  5092. 00:46:28,685 --> 00:46:30,253
  5093. <i> It didn't make it irrelevant,</i>
  5094.  
  5095. 1025
  5096. 00:46:30,255 --> 00:46:32,889
  5097. <i> what it's forced</i>
  5098. <i> the post office to do</i>
  5099.  
  5100. 1026
  5101. 00:46:32,891 --> 00:46:34,757
  5102. <i> is concentrate</i>
  5103. <i> on their strengths</i>
  5104.  
  5105. 1027
  5106. 00:46:34,759 --> 00:46:37,593
  5107. and less so
  5108. on their weaknesses.
  5109.  
  5110. 1028
  5111. 00:46:37,595 --> 00:46:39,662
  5112. Daniel:
  5113. <i> Mike Caldwell is the creator</i>
  5114.  
  5115. 1029
  5116. 00:46:39,664 --> 00:46:40,730
  5117. <i> of physical bitcoins,</i>
  5118.  
  5119. 1030
  5120. 00:46:40,732 --> 00:46:42,732
  5121. <i> known as casascius coins.</i>
  5122.  
  5123. 1031
  5124. 00:46:42,734 --> 00:46:44,267
  5125. <i> They're often featured</i>
  5126.  
  5127. 1032
  5128. 00:46:44,269 --> 00:46:46,602
  5129. <i> in mainstream media</i>
  5130. <i> coverage of bitcoin.</i>
  5131.  
  5132. 1033
  5133. 00:46:46,604 --> 00:46:48,404
  5134. <i> They're a novelty item,</i>
  5135.  
  5136. 1034
  5137. 00:46:48,406 --> 00:46:50,106
  5138. <i> collectables</i>
  5139. <i> that basically act</i>
  5140.  
  5141. 1035
  5142. 00:46:50,108 --> 00:46:52,608
  5143. <i> as physical carriers</i>
  5144. <i> for bitcoins.</i>
  5145.  
  5146. 1036
  5147. 00:46:52,610 --> 00:46:54,577
  5148. <i> But they do something</i>
  5149. <i> very important.</i>
  5150.  
  5151. 1037
  5152. 00:46:54,579 --> 00:46:57,413
  5153. <i> They give bitcoin a face.</i>
  5154.  
  5155. 1038
  5156. 00:46:57,415 --> 00:46:59,115
  5157. Come on in.
  5158.  
  5159. 1039
  5160. 00:47:01,752 --> 00:47:03,186
  5161. Sorry, the kids
  5162. are sleeping,
  5163.  
  5164. 1040
  5165. 00:47:03,188 --> 00:47:06,122
  5166. so I'm just being quiet
  5167. so we don't-- you know.
  5168.  
  5169. 1041
  5170. 00:47:06,124 --> 00:47:09,158
  5171. Daniel:
  5172. <i> Each coin has</i>
  5173. <i> its own bitcoin address.</i>
  5174.  
  5175. 1042
  5176. 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,060
  5177. <i> And the private key</i>
  5178. <i> required to spend it</i>
  5179.  
  5180. 1043
  5181. 00:47:11,062 --> 00:47:13,229
  5182. <i> is hidden</i>
  5183. <i> underneath the hologram.</i>
  5184.  
  5185. 1044
  5186. 00:47:13,231 --> 00:47:15,398
  5187. This is where you make
  5188. the physical bitcoin.
  5189.  
  5190. 1045
  5191. 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,067
  5192. Yeah. It's a random
  5193. smattering of things,
  5194.  
  5195. 1046
  5196. 00:47:18,069 --> 00:47:20,236
  5197. but I'm pretty careful
  5198. about the way I manage--
  5199.  
  5200. 1047
  5201. 00:47:20,238 --> 00:47:21,404
  5202. you know, the--
  5203.  
  5204. 1048
  5205. 00:47:21,406 --> 00:47:23,406
  5206. basically,
  5207. this is the credentials.
  5208.  
  5209. 1049
  5210. 00:47:23,408 --> 00:47:26,342
  5211. This is the hologram
  5212. and the private keys.
  5213.  
  5214. 1050
  5215. 00:47:26,344 --> 00:47:28,511
  5216. I'm pretty careful
  5217. about those and don't
  5218. keep them here.
  5219.  
  5220. 1051
  5221. 00:47:28,513 --> 00:47:30,546
  5222. I normally do them
  5223. on this mirror
  5224.  
  5225. 1052
  5226. 00:47:30,548 --> 00:47:34,183
  5227. 'cause that helps me get
  5228. the fronts and backs right.
  5229.  
  5230. 1053
  5231. 00:47:34,185 --> 00:47:37,553
  5232. <i> There's so many things</i>
  5233. <i> that cryptography</i>
  5234. <i> can do for us,</i>
  5235.  
  5236. 1054
  5237. 00:47:37,555 --> 00:47:39,722
  5238. that if the world
  5239. just knew,
  5240.  
  5241. 1055
  5242. 00:47:39,724 --> 00:47:42,592
  5243. <i> so many social problems</i>
  5244. <i> could be solved.</i>
  5245.  
  5246. 1056
  5247. 00:47:42,594 --> 00:47:46,963
  5248. Cryptography can bring
  5249. fairness to elections.
  5250.  
  5251. 1057
  5252. 00:47:46,965 --> 00:47:49,966
  5253. <i> It's too difficult</i>
  5254. <i> for people to understand</i>
  5255.  
  5256. 1058
  5257. 00:47:49,968 --> 00:47:53,069
  5258. <i> and someone needs</i>
  5259. <i> to bridge the gap.</i>
  5260.  
  5261. 1059
  5262. 00:47:53,071 --> 00:47:56,339
  5263. Daniel:
  5264. <i> Right now we're using</i>
  5265. <i> bitcoin to send money.</i>
  5266.  
  5267. 1060
  5268. 00:47:56,341 --> 00:47:59,175
  5269. <i> But many believe it will</i>
  5270. <i> revolutionize much more.</i>
  5271.  
  5272. 1061
  5273. 00:47:59,177 --> 00:48:02,011
  5274. <i> The technology</i>
  5275. <i> behind bitcoin</i>
  5276.  
  5277. 1062
  5278. 00:48:02,013 --> 00:48:04,513
  5279. <i> can be used to build</i>
  5280. <i> decentralized systems</i>
  5281.  
  5282. 1063
  5283. 00:48:04,515 --> 00:48:06,582
  5284. <i> with rules</i>
  5285. <i> that can't be cheated.</i>
  5286.  
  5287. 1064
  5288. 00:48:13,023 --> 00:48:15,324
  5289. Now see, this is
  5290. my wife and my space.
  5291.  
  5292. 1065
  5293. 00:48:15,326 --> 00:48:16,993
  5294. - This is, you know--
  5295. - awesome.
  5296.  
  5297. 1066
  5298. 00:48:16,995 --> 00:48:18,661
  5299. It is what it is.
  5300.  
  5301. 1067
  5302. 00:48:18,663 --> 00:48:19,896
  5303. <i> The more time goes by,</i>
  5304.  
  5305. 1068
  5306. 00:48:19,898 --> 00:48:21,397
  5307. <i> the more legitimate</i>
  5308. <i> bitcoin gets</i>
  5309.  
  5310. 1069
  5311. 00:48:21,399 --> 00:48:23,666
  5312. <i> and the more proud I am</i>
  5313. <i> to be associated with it.</i>
  5314.  
  5315. 1070
  5316. 00:48:23,668 --> 00:48:25,468
  5317. Now what does
  5318. your wife do?
  5319.  
  5320. 1071
  5321. 00:48:25,470 --> 00:48:27,136
  5322. She does crafts.
  5323.  
  5324. 1072
  5325. 00:48:27,138 --> 00:48:28,671
  5326. She's a lot like me.
  5327.  
  5328. 1073
  5329. 00:48:28,673 --> 00:48:30,306
  5330. We just sit around
  5331. and make things all day.
  5332.  
  5333. 1074
  5334. 00:48:30,308 --> 00:48:32,575
  5335. <i> It's just our obsession.</i>
  5336.  
  5337. 1075
  5338. 00:48:32,577 --> 00:48:35,044
  5339. No, I'm not a drug dealer.
  5340. No, I'm not a criminal.
  5341.  
  5342. 1076
  5343. 00:48:35,046 --> 00:48:36,812
  5344. No, I'm not a terrorist.
  5345.  
  5346. 1077
  5347. 00:48:36,814 --> 00:48:38,180
  5348. <i> I believe</i>
  5349. <i> in the rule of law.</i>
  5350.  
  5351. 1078
  5352. 00:48:38,182 --> 00:48:40,082
  5353. I believe in structure
  5354. that builds society.
  5355.  
  5356. 1079
  5357. 00:48:40,084 --> 00:48:41,384
  5358. I believe in families.
  5359.  
  5360. 1080
  5361. 00:48:41,386 --> 00:48:42,919
  5362. <i> I believe</i>
  5363. <i> in corporations.</i>
  5364.  
  5365. 1081
  5366. 00:48:42,921 --> 00:48:45,655
  5367. <i> I believe in all</i>
  5368. <i> the essential elements</i>
  5369.  
  5370. 1082
  5371. 00:48:45,657 --> 00:48:48,691
  5372. that a civilized society
  5373. with law and order
  5374.  
  5375. 1083
  5376. 00:48:48,693 --> 00:48:50,426
  5377. need to be able
  5378. to function.
  5379.  
  5380. 1084
  5381. 00:48:50,428 --> 00:48:52,528
  5382. Focal length matters.
  5383.  
  5384. 1085
  5385. 00:48:52,530 --> 00:48:54,563
  5386. ( Whirring )
  5387.  
  5388. 1086
  5389. 00:48:54,565 --> 00:48:57,500
  5390. Cryptography is the basis
  5391.  
  5392. 1087
  5393. 00:48:57,502 --> 00:49:00,136
  5394. for us being able
  5395. to implement the values
  5396. we say we believe in.
  5397.  
  5398. 1088
  5399. 00:49:03,974 --> 00:49:05,675
  5400. Caldwell:
  5401. <i> This idea will never die,</i>
  5402.  
  5403. 1089
  5404. 00:49:05,677 --> 00:49:09,712
  5405. <i> the technology that bitcoin</i>
  5406. <i> brought to the forefront.</i>
  5407.  
  5408. 1090
  5409. 00:49:09,714 --> 00:49:11,013
  5410. The genie is
  5411. out of the bottle.
  5412.  
  5413. 1091
  5414. 00:49:22,693 --> 00:49:24,660
  5415. Daniel:
  5416. <i> Since the crash,</i>
  5417. <i> the bitcoin price</i>
  5418.  
  5419. 1092
  5420. 00:49:24,662 --> 00:49:26,762
  5421. <i> has been hovering</i>
  5422. <i> around $100.</i>
  5423.  
  5424. 1093
  5425. 00:49:28,165 --> 00:49:30,466
  5426. <i> Bitcoins seem to have</i>
  5427. <i> weathered the storm,</i>
  5428.  
  5429. 1094
  5430. 00:49:30,468 --> 00:49:33,803
  5431. <i> but there's still</i>
  5432. <i> much controversy </i>
  5433. <i> surrounding the currency.</i>
  5434.  
  5435. 1095
  5436. 00:49:33,805 --> 00:49:36,906
  5437. <i> The same cryptography that</i>
  5438. <i> insures a user's privacy</i>
  5439.  
  5440. 1096
  5441. 00:49:36,908 --> 00:49:39,642
  5442. <i> also allows it</i>
  5443. <i> to be used anonymously.</i>
  5444.  
  5445. 1097
  5446. 00:49:48,819 --> 00:49:51,153
  5447. Steve:
  5448. <i> My father decided to retire</i>
  5449.  
  5450. 1098
  5451. 00:49:51,155 --> 00:49:53,255
  5452. <i> and he had an old</i>
  5453. <i> failing print shop.</i>
  5454.  
  5455. 1099
  5456. 00:49:53,257 --> 00:49:54,924
  5457. <i> I basically took it over</i>
  5458.  
  5459. 1100
  5460. 00:49:54,926 --> 00:49:56,425
  5461. <i> and I converted it</i>
  5462. <i> into an Internet place.</i>
  5463.  
  5464. 1101
  5465. 00:49:58,061 --> 00:49:59,161
  5466. We're the only place
  5467. in L.A.
  5468.  
  5469. 1102
  5470. 00:49:59,163 --> 00:50:00,496
  5471. That supports
  5472. bitcoin right now.
  5473.  
  5474. 1103
  5475. 00:50:07,237 --> 00:50:09,772
  5476. This is
  5477. my linux system here.
  5478.  
  5479. 1104
  5480. 00:50:09,774 --> 00:50:13,342
  5481. It's a system that
  5482. also mines for bitcoins.
  5483.  
  5484. 1105
  5485. 00:50:13,344 --> 00:50:15,611
  5486. <i> Makes about a dollar a day.</i>
  5487. <i> I just do it for fun.</i>
  5488.  
  5489. 1106
  5490. 00:50:17,180 --> 00:50:18,848
  5491. I was really really
  5492. into the Internet,
  5493.  
  5494. 1107
  5495. 00:50:18,850 --> 00:50:22,251
  5496. literally in 1990,
  5497. 1991, 1992,
  5498.  
  5499. 1108
  5500. 00:50:22,253 --> 00:50:24,353
  5501. and I had
  5502. the hardest time describing
  5503.  
  5504. 1109
  5505. 00:50:24,355 --> 00:50:26,522
  5506. what the Internet was
  5507. to people.
  5508.  
  5509. 1110
  5510. 00:50:26,524 --> 00:50:28,824
  5511. <i> I would tell people,</i>
  5512. <i> "well, it's like this</i>
  5513. <i> network of computers.</i>
  5514.  
  5515. 1111
  5516. 00:50:28,826 --> 00:50:31,060
  5517. And the network
  5518. of computers
  5519.  
  5520. 1112
  5521. 00:50:31,062 --> 00:50:32,995
  5522. can talk with other
  5523. networks of computers
  5524.  
  5525. 1113
  5526. 00:50:32,997 --> 00:50:34,997
  5527. and then you could
  5528. exchange information."
  5529.  
  5530. 1114
  5531. 00:50:34,999 --> 00:50:37,333
  5532. And people would have
  5533. no idea what it was.
  5534.  
  5535. 1115
  5536. 00:50:37,335 --> 00:50:40,669
  5537. - ( Beeps )
  5538. -<i> When people ask me</i>
  5539. <i> what bitcoin is</i>
  5540.  
  5541. 1116
  5542. 00:50:40,671 --> 00:50:42,905
  5543. <i> I have the hardest time</i>
  5544. <i> describing what it is.</i>
  5545.  
  5546. 1117
  5547. 00:50:42,907 --> 00:50:46,042
  5548. <i> And I'd surmise it as,</i>
  5549. <i> "it's basically money.</i>
  5550.  
  5551. 1118
  5552. 00:50:46,044 --> 00:50:47,643
  5553. <i> It's basically</i>
  5554. <i> an anonymous PayPal.</i>
  5555.  
  5556. 1119
  5557. 00:50:49,212 --> 00:50:51,347
  5558. <i> It's one of those things</i>
  5559. <i> that you have to use</i>
  5560.  
  5561. 1120
  5562. 00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:52,882
  5563. <i> before you understand.</i>
  5564.  
  5565. 1121
  5566. 00:50:54,384 --> 00:50:56,252
  5567. <i> Politically, I'm not</i>
  5568. <i> a very big fan</i>
  5569.  
  5570. 1122
  5571. 00:50:56,254 --> 00:50:58,788
  5572. <i> of either the banks</i>
  5573. <i> or federal reserve,</i>
  5574.  
  5575. 1123
  5576. 00:50:58,790 --> 00:51:00,990
  5577. and bitcoin allows me
  5578. to get around that.
  5579.  
  5580. 1124
  5581. 00:51:00,992 --> 00:51:04,193
  5582. One of the programs we support
  5583. is a protocol called "Tor."
  5584.  
  5585. 1125
  5586. 00:51:04,195 --> 00:51:07,229
  5587. And basically what Tor does is
  5588. it allows you to communicate
  5589.  
  5590. 1126
  5591. 00:51:07,231 --> 00:51:09,165
  5592. to a website anonymously.
  5593.  
  5594. 1127
  5595. 00:51:09,167 --> 00:51:11,233
  5596. <i> Tor is a program</i>
  5597. <i> that allows you to get on</i>
  5598. <i> the silk road.</i>
  5599.  
  5600. 1128
  5601. 00:51:12,569 --> 00:51:14,070
  5602. And this is silk road.
  5603.  
  5604. 1129
  5605. 00:51:14,072 --> 00:51:17,406
  5606. <i> Basically, any drug</i>
  5607. <i> you want is available.</i>
  5608.  
  5609. 1130
  5610. 00:51:17,408 --> 00:51:19,675
  5611. There's a lot of weed.
  5612. There's a lot of cocaine.
  5613.  
  5614. 1131
  5615. 00:51:19,677 --> 00:51:20,976
  5616. <i> There's a lot of ecstasy.</i>
  5617.  
  5618. 1132
  5619. 00:51:20,978 --> 00:51:22,978
  5620. <i> But there's also</i>
  5621. <i> unusual drugs,</i>
  5622.  
  5623. 1133
  5624. 00:51:22,980 --> 00:51:24,580
  5625. like if you want some sort
  5626. of anabolic steroid,
  5627.  
  5628. 1134
  5629. 00:51:24,582 --> 00:51:26,816
  5630. you can type "steroid."
  5631.  
  5632. 1135
  5633. 00:51:26,818 --> 00:51:28,250
  5634. You'll get
  5635. all the different types
  5636.  
  5637. 1136
  5638. 00:51:28,252 --> 00:51:30,019
  5639. <i> of steroids</i>
  5640. <i> that are available.</i>
  5641.  
  5642. 1137
  5643. 00:51:30,021 --> 00:51:32,321
  5644. Silk road itself is
  5645. not selling the drugs.
  5646.  
  5647. 1138
  5648. 00:51:32,323 --> 00:51:34,090
  5649. <i> This is basically</i>
  5650. <i> a matchmaker</i>
  5651.  
  5652. 1139
  5653. 00:51:34,092 --> 00:51:35,658
  5654. <i> between buyer and seller.</i>
  5655.  
  5656. 1140
  5657. 00:51:35,660 --> 00:51:37,393
  5658. Both the buyer and seller
  5659. don't know each other.
  5660.  
  5661. 1141
  5662. 00:51:37,395 --> 00:51:39,528
  5663. Both the buyer
  5664. and seller are anonymous.
  5665.  
  5666. 1142
  5667. 00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:41,897
  5668. <i> It goes</i>
  5669. <i> on this web of trust.</i>
  5670.  
  5671. 1143
  5672. 00:51:41,899 --> 00:51:44,633
  5673. If you want to, let's say,
  5674. buy this testosterone,
  5675.  
  5676. 1144
  5677. 00:51:44,635 --> 00:51:46,235
  5678. <i> you'd click on this.</i>
  5679.  
  5680. 1145
  5681. 00:51:47,971 --> 00:51:49,905
  5682. He has
  5683. 99.3 positive feedback
  5684.  
  5685. 1146
  5686. 00:51:49,907 --> 00:51:52,408
  5687. from more
  5688. than 300 transactions.
  5689.  
  5690. 1147
  5691. 00:51:52,410 --> 00:51:55,511
  5692. So even though the contracts
  5693. aren't enforceable by law,
  5694.  
  5695. 1148
  5696. 00:51:55,513 --> 00:51:57,680
  5697. the reputation system
  5698. makes it so that
  5699.  
  5700. 1149
  5701. 00:51:57,682 --> 00:52:00,249
  5702. the system works
  5703. pretty well.
  5704.  
  5705. 1150
  5706. 00:52:00,251 --> 00:52:02,318
  5707. Oh, there's
  5708. a fireworks section now.
  5709. I didn't know that.
  5710.  
  5711. 1151
  5712. 00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:07,156
  5713. <i> Florida I.D.,</i>
  5714. <i> 1.88 bitcoins,</i>
  5715.  
  5716. 1152
  5717. 00:52:07,158 --> 00:52:10,559
  5718. which is around $150,
  5719. something like that.
  5720.  
  5721. 1153
  5722. 00:52:10,561 --> 00:52:12,962
  5723. <i> A forged</i>
  5724. <i> auto insurance card,</i>
  5725.  
  5726. 1154
  5727. 00:52:12,964 --> 00:52:15,664
  5728. <i> forged passport.</i>
  5729.  
  5730. 1155
  5731. 00:52:15,666 --> 00:52:17,733
  5732. There is over
  5733. 9,000 entries for drugs.
  5734.  
  5735. 1156
  5736. 00:52:19,469 --> 00:52:20,669
  5737. That's a lot.
  5738.  
  5739. 1157
  5740. 00:52:22,672 --> 00:52:24,273
  5741. I would say there's around
  5742. maybe five customers
  5743.  
  5744. 1158
  5745. 00:52:24,275 --> 00:52:25,875
  5746. that know about it
  5747. and use it.
  5748.  
  5749. 1159
  5750. 00:52:25,877 --> 00:52:27,877
  5751. It's a very small percentage
  5752. of the people that come in.
  5753.  
  5754. 1160
  5755. 00:52:27,879 --> 00:52:29,512
  5756. But the people
  5757. who do know about it,
  5758.  
  5759. 1161
  5760. 00:52:29,514 --> 00:52:31,147
  5761. specifically
  5762. come here to use it.
  5763.  
  5764. 1162
  5765. 00:52:31,149 --> 00:52:34,316
  5766. <i> ( Rock music playing )</i>
  5767.  
  5768. 1163
  5769. 00:52:34,318 --> 00:52:36,152
  5770. <i> What the customers do</i>
  5771. <i> with the computers</i>
  5772.  
  5773. 1164
  5774. 00:52:36,154 --> 00:52:38,554
  5775. <i> is pretty much</i>
  5776. <i> their business.</i>
  5777.  
  5778. 1165
  5779. 00:52:38,556 --> 00:52:40,856
  5780. Another day in the office.
  5781.  
  5782. 1166
  5783. 00:52:40,858 --> 00:52:43,826
  5784. You gonna do
  5785. drug dealing of any sort,
  5786.  
  5787. 1167
  5788. 00:52:43,828 --> 00:52:45,127
  5789. silk road is
  5790. the place to go.
  5791.  
  5792. 1168
  5793. 00:52:45,129 --> 00:52:48,297
  5794. How many people are
  5795. selling cannabis right now?
  5796.  
  5797. 1169
  5798. 00:52:48,299 --> 00:52:51,534
  5799. <i> It looks like 2,011 people</i>
  5800. <i> are selling cannabis.</i>
  5801.  
  5802. 1170
  5803. 00:52:51,536 --> 00:52:53,135
  5804. They call me
  5805. Mr. bitcoin.
  5806.  
  5807. 1171
  5808. 00:52:53,137 --> 00:52:55,004
  5809. <i> I probably been</i>
  5810. <i> dealing drugs</i>
  5811.  
  5812. 1172
  5813. 00:52:55,006 --> 00:52:57,540
  5814. since I was like 17.
  5815.  
  5816. 1173
  5817. 00:52:57,542 --> 00:52:59,909
  5818. <i> Right now I'm 26.</i>
  5819.  
  5820. 1174
  5821. 00:53:01,411 --> 00:53:03,179
  5822. <i> I think of it</i>
  5823. <i> as a global thing</i>
  5824.  
  5825. 1175
  5826. 00:53:03,181 --> 00:53:04,380
  5827. <i> when I'm on the computer.</i>
  5828.  
  5829. 1176
  5830. 00:53:04,382 --> 00:53:06,916
  5831. <i> I'm doing business</i>
  5832. <i> with the world.</i>
  5833.  
  5834. 1177
  5835. 00:53:06,918 --> 00:53:08,517
  5836. Let's see,
  5837. they have blue dream,
  5838.  
  5839. 1178
  5840. 00:53:08,519 --> 00:53:11,353
  5841. sour diesel,
  5842. pineapple thai,
  5843.  
  5844. 1179
  5845. 00:53:11,355 --> 00:53:14,390
  5846. purple kush,
  5847. girl scout cookies.
  5848. Purple pays.
  5849.  
  5850. 1180
  5851. 00:53:14,392 --> 00:53:16,225
  5852. When I first
  5853. heard about it,
  5854.  
  5855. 1181
  5856. 00:53:16,227 --> 00:53:17,893
  5857. I was laughing about it.
  5858. It took me a week
  5859.  
  5860. 1182
  5861. 00:53:17,895 --> 00:53:19,895
  5862. to just even think
  5863. about this for real.
  5864.  
  5865. 1183
  5866. 00:53:19,897 --> 00:53:21,830
  5867. "I can really make money
  5868. off the Internet?
  5869.  
  5870. 1184
  5871. 00:53:21,832 --> 00:53:23,832
  5872. Selling this type
  5873. of stuff on the Internet?
  5874. You sure about that?"
  5875.  
  5876. 1185
  5877. 00:53:26,036 --> 00:53:28,170
  5878. This something I probably
  5879. may buy right here.
  5880.  
  5881. 1186
  5882. 00:53:28,172 --> 00:53:31,307
  5883. <i> They have looks like</i>
  5884. <i> some good kush.</i>
  5885.  
  5886. 1187
  5887. 00:53:31,309 --> 00:53:33,809
  5888. <i> And some of these things</i>
  5889. <i> only take a day to get here</i>
  5890.  
  5891. 1188
  5892. 00:53:33,811 --> 00:53:35,811
  5893. <i> with no harassment</i>
  5894. <i> from nobody</i>
  5895.  
  5896. 1189
  5897. 00:53:35,813 --> 00:53:37,513
  5898. instead of just being
  5899. on the streets.
  5900.  
  5901. 1190
  5902. 00:53:37,515 --> 00:53:39,415
  5903. <i> Once you get the hang of it,</i>
  5904. <i> it's actually kinda fun</i>
  5905.  
  5906. 1191
  5907. 00:53:39,417 --> 00:53:40,950
  5908. <i> just looking through</i>
  5909. <i> different things.</i>
  5910.  
  5911. 1192
  5912. 00:53:42,552 --> 00:53:44,853
  5913. "Mr. bitcoin."
  5914. I'm running with it.
  5915.  
  5916. 1193
  5917. 00:53:44,855 --> 00:53:46,355
  5918. I like the name.
  5919. You know what I mean?
  5920.  
  5921. 1194
  5922. 00:53:46,357 --> 00:53:48,190
  5923. I'm not gonna lie.
  5924. I get Booty off this.
  5925.  
  5926. 1195
  5927. 00:53:48,192 --> 00:53:50,025
  5928. I kinda like talking
  5929. about this stuff with girls.
  5930.  
  5931. 1196
  5932. 00:53:50,027 --> 00:53:52,161
  5933. Girls like that shit hot.
  5934. ( Laughs )
  5935.  
  5936. 1197
  5937. 00:53:52,163 --> 00:53:55,364
  5938. "Oh, you're street, and you got
  5939. a little nerd knowledge?
  5940.  
  5941. 1198
  5942. 00:53:55,366 --> 00:53:56,966
  5943. This is great."
  5944.  
  5945. 1199
  5946. 00:53:58,368 --> 00:54:00,402
  5947. <i> I have a lot of bitcoins</i>
  5948. <i> saved up already.</i>
  5949.  
  5950. 1200
  5951. 00:54:00,404 --> 00:54:02,404
  5952. <i> My business is doing good.</i>
  5953.  
  5954. 1201
  5955. 00:54:02,406 --> 00:54:05,307
  5956. It's a fun way of doing
  5957. hustling these days.
  5958.  
  5959. 1202
  5960. 00:54:05,309 --> 00:54:07,343
  5961. The future brung
  5962. a different way to hustle
  5963.  
  5964. 1203
  5965. 00:54:07,345 --> 00:54:08,811
  5966. and I like it.
  5967.  
  5968. 1204
  5969. 00:54:22,058 --> 00:54:24,026
  5970. Daniel:
  5971. <i> With so many people</i>
  5972. <i> using bitcoin</i>
  5973.  
  5974. 1205
  5975. 00:54:24,028 --> 00:54:25,828
  5976. <i> in so many different ways,</i>
  5977.  
  5978. 1206
  5979. 00:54:25,830 --> 00:54:28,230
  5980. <i> it's becoming apparent</i>
  5981. <i> that it can't be ignored.</i>
  5982.  
  5983. 1207
  5984. 00:54:32,902 --> 00:54:34,403
  5985. - Let me see
  5986. your driver's license.
  5987. - Oh sure.
  5988.  
  5989. 1208
  5990. 00:54:34,405 --> 00:54:37,139
  5991. This stays at the desk
  5992. until you leave the building.
  5993.  
  5994. 1209
  5995. 00:54:37,141 --> 00:54:39,174
  5996. Daniel:
  5997. <i> Today I'm visiting fincen,</i>
  5998.  
  5999. 1210
  6000. 00:54:39,176 --> 00:54:41,377
  6001. <i> a bureau</i>
  6002. <i> of the U.S. department</i>
  6003. <i> of the treasury.</i>
  6004.  
  6005. 1211
  6006. 00:54:41,379 --> 00:54:45,080
  6007. <i> Despite having</i>
  6008. <i> released guidance</i>
  6009. <i> on virtual currencies,</i>
  6010.  
  6011. 1212
  6012. 00:54:45,082 --> 00:54:47,549
  6013. <i> there's still</i>
  6014. <i> a lot of uncertainty</i>
  6015. <i> surrounding their outlook</i>
  6016.  
  6017. 1213
  6018. 00:54:47,551 --> 00:54:49,718
  6019. <i> on the future</i>
  6020. <i> of bitcoin regulation.</i>
  6021.  
  6022. 1214
  6023. 00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,321
  6024. Straight ahead
  6025. and in the big
  6026. fishbowl-looking--
  6027.  
  6028. 1215
  6029. 00:54:52,323 --> 00:54:54,356
  6030. <i> okay, great.</i>
  6031.  
  6032. 1216
  6033. 00:54:54,358 --> 00:54:56,992
  6034. <i> ( Beeping )</i>
  6035.  
  6036. 1217
  6037. 00:54:56,994 --> 00:54:58,494
  6038. I'm not gonna say
  6039. we're gonna have
  6040.  
  6041. 1218
  6042. 00:54:58,496 --> 00:54:59,828
  6043. every answer
  6044. for you today,
  6045.  
  6046. 1219
  6047. 00:54:59,830 --> 00:55:02,064
  6048. but I mean...
  6049.  
  6050. 1220
  6051. 00:55:24,220 --> 00:55:26,422
  6052. - ( Snapping fingers )
  6053. - Ashley:<i> Oh yeah.</i>
  6054.  
  6055. 1221
  6056. 00:55:26,424 --> 00:55:27,756
  6057. ( Laughs )
  6058.  
  6059. 1222
  6060. 00:55:30,193 --> 00:55:32,194
  6061. Daniel:
  6062. <i> Jennifer shasky calvery</i>
  6063. <i> came onboard</i>
  6064.  
  6065. 1223
  6066. 00:55:32,196 --> 00:55:34,463
  6067. <i> as fincen's</i>
  6068. <i> director last year.</i>
  6069.  
  6070. 1224
  6071. 00:55:34,465 --> 00:55:36,865
  6072. <i> During her career,</i>
  6073. <i> she spent 15 years</i>
  6074.  
  6075. 1225
  6076. 00:55:36,867 --> 00:55:38,667
  6077. <i> at the department</i>
  6078. <i> of justice</i>
  6079.  
  6080. 1226
  6081. 00:55:38,669 --> 00:55:40,469
  6082. <i> where she specialized</i>
  6083. <i> in fighting money laundering</i>
  6084.  
  6085. 1227
  6086. 00:55:40,471 --> 00:55:42,204
  6087. <i> and organized crime.</i>
  6088.  
  6089. 1228
  6090. 00:55:42,206 --> 00:55:43,672
  6091. Virtual currencies
  6092. have been on my radar
  6093.  
  6094. 1229
  6095. 00:55:43,674 --> 00:55:45,641
  6096. for a while,
  6097. even prior to coming
  6098.  
  6099. 1230
  6100. 00:55:45,643 --> 00:55:48,877
  6101. to this position,
  6102. because of,
  6103.  
  6104. 1231
  6105. 00:55:48,879 --> 00:55:51,313
  6106. unfortunately, the abuse
  6107. of some of them.
  6108.  
  6109. 1232
  6110. 00:55:51,315 --> 00:55:53,048
  6111. Bitcoin,
  6112. on the other hand,
  6113.  
  6114. 1233
  6115. 00:55:53,050 --> 00:55:55,984
  6116. is one that really
  6117. didn't come on my radar
  6118.  
  6119. 1234
  6120. 00:55:55,986 --> 00:55:57,886
  6121. probably until
  6122. I arrived at fincen.
  6123.  
  6124. 1235
  6125. 00:55:57,888 --> 00:55:59,888
  6126. <i> Depending on</i>
  6127. <i> who you speak to,</i>
  6128.  
  6129. 1236
  6130. 00:55:59,890 --> 00:56:01,390
  6131. <i> the issuance</i>
  6132. <i> of our guidance was</i>
  6133.  
  6134. 1237
  6135. 00:56:01,392 --> 00:56:03,892
  6136. either the best thing
  6137. that ever happened to bitcoin
  6138.  
  6139. 1238
  6140. 00:56:03,894 --> 00:56:06,061
  6141. or the worst thing that
  6142. ever happened to bitcoin.
  6143.  
  6144. 1239
  6145. 00:56:06,063 --> 00:56:08,697
  6146. <i> Some accusing us</i>
  6147. <i> of trying to kill bitcoin</i>
  6148.  
  6149. 1240
  6150. 00:56:08,699 --> 00:56:11,667
  6151. <i> and others saying that</i>
  6152. <i> it somehow legitimized it.</i>
  6153.  
  6154. 1241
  6155. 00:56:11,669 --> 00:56:15,337
  6156. Of course, neither
  6157. of those things I think
  6158. is probably true.
  6159.  
  6160. 1242
  6161. 00:56:15,339 --> 00:56:17,706
  6162. And certainly
  6163. neither of those things
  6164. was our intent.
  6165.  
  6166. 1243
  6167. 00:56:17,708 --> 00:56:21,210
  6168. <i> One of the clear lines is</i>
  6169. <i> that if you're a consumer</i>
  6170.  
  6171. 1244
  6172. 00:56:21,212 --> 00:56:24,146
  6173. <i> who's using bitcoins</i>
  6174. <i> to buy goods and services,</i>
  6175.  
  6176. 1245
  6177. 00:56:24,148 --> 00:56:26,081
  6178. <i> the guidance</i>
  6179. <i> doesn't pertain to you.</i>
  6180.  
  6181. 1246
  6182. 00:56:26,083 --> 00:56:29,017
  6183. We're focused more
  6184. on the places where we think
  6185.  
  6186. 1247
  6187. 00:56:29,019 --> 00:56:32,054
  6188. we have risks
  6189. to the U.S. financial system
  6190.  
  6191. 1248
  6192. 00:56:32,056 --> 00:56:33,889
  6193. from money laundering
  6194. and terrorist financing.
  6195.  
  6196. 1249
  6197. 00:56:33,891 --> 00:56:35,991
  6198. And I think
  6199. that might be kind of--
  6200.  
  6201. 1250
  6202. 00:56:35,993 --> 00:56:39,428
  6203. a lot of the bitcoin community
  6204. has a little bit of a fear
  6205.  
  6206. 1251
  6207. 00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:42,464
  6208. that bitcoin
  6209. may be characterized
  6210.  
  6211. 1252
  6212. 00:56:42,466 --> 00:56:46,368
  6213. in a way so as to tie it
  6214. to some bad actor ruining it
  6215. for everyone,
  6216.  
  6217. 1253
  6218. 00:56:46,370 --> 00:56:48,404
  6219. <i> when a lot of people that</i>
  6220. <i> are interested in bitcoin,</i>
  6221.  
  6222. 1254
  6223. 00:56:48,406 --> 00:56:52,107
  6224. including myself, see it
  6225. as just this technology
  6226. that we don't--
  6227.  
  6228. 1255
  6229. 00:56:52,109 --> 00:56:54,143
  6230. really don't wanna
  6231. see it falling
  6232.  
  6233. 1256
  6234. 00:56:54,145 --> 00:56:56,044
  6235. into the wrong
  6236. categorization
  6237.  
  6238. 1257
  6239. 00:56:56,046 --> 00:56:58,280
  6240. with all the potential
  6241. that's there.
  6242.  
  6243. 1258
  6244. 00:56:58,282 --> 00:57:02,484
  6245. Sure. So that innovation
  6246. around bitcoin
  6247.  
  6248. 1259
  6249. 00:57:02,486 --> 00:57:05,154
  6250. and the virtual economy
  6251.  
  6252. 1260
  6253. 00:57:05,156 --> 00:57:08,524
  6254. is really one of the more
  6255. interesting aspects,
  6256.  
  6257. 1261
  6258. 00:57:08,526 --> 00:57:10,859
  6259. I think, of this story--
  6260. the idea that
  6261.  
  6262. 1262
  6263. 00:57:10,861 --> 00:57:14,163
  6264. <i> it can be used</i>
  6265. <i> to potentially serve</i>
  6266.  
  6267. 1263
  6268. 00:57:14,165 --> 00:57:15,964
  6269. <i> the unbanked out there,</i>
  6270.  
  6271. 1264
  6272. 00:57:15,966 --> 00:57:18,567
  6273. <i> just to provide</i>
  6274. <i> some really new services</i>
  6275.  
  6276. 1265
  6277. 00:57:18,569 --> 00:57:20,602
  6278. <i> that are convenient</i>
  6279. <i> for consumers.</i>
  6280.  
  6281. 1266
  6282. 00:57:20,604 --> 00:57:22,004
  6283. The flip side of it
  6284. though
  6285.  
  6286. 1267
  6287. 00:57:22,006 --> 00:57:24,506
  6288. is that to be a part
  6289. of the financial system--
  6290.  
  6291. 1268
  6292. 00:57:24,508 --> 00:57:27,810
  6293. the U.S. financial system,
  6294. the global financial system--
  6295.  
  6296. 1269
  6297. 00:57:27,812 --> 00:57:29,711
  6298. also comes
  6299. with some responsibilities.
  6300.  
  6301. 1270
  6302. 00:57:29,713 --> 00:57:32,347
  6303. And those
  6304. responsibilities include
  6305.  
  6306. 1271
  6307. 00:57:32,349 --> 00:57:35,617
  6308. <i> not allowing</i>
  6309. <i> your institution to be used</i>
  6310.  
  6311. 1272
  6312. 00:57:35,619 --> 00:57:39,621
  6313. by criminals
  6314. and by terrorists.
  6315.  
  6316. 1273
  6317. 00:57:44,627 --> 00:57:46,195
  6318. Daniel:
  6319. <i> There's always</i>
  6320. <i> been a concern</i>
  6321.  
  6322. 1274
  6323. 00:57:46,197 --> 00:57:48,464
  6324. <i> that the government might try</i>
  6325. <i> to stamp out bitcoin.</i>
  6326.  
  6327. 1275
  6328. 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,435
  6329. <i> But perhaps they see the risk</i>
  6330. <i> of being left behind.</i>
  6331.  
  6332. 1276
  6333. 00:57:58,174 --> 00:58:01,276
  6334. <i> In may 2013,</i>
  6335. <i> the biggest gathering to-date</i>
  6336.  
  6337. 1277
  6338. 00:58:01,278 --> 00:58:03,512
  6339. <i> of bitcoin enthusiasts</i>
  6340. <i> and entrepreneurs</i>
  6341.  
  6342. 1278
  6343. 00:58:03,514 --> 00:58:05,781
  6344. <i> happened in San Jose,</i>
  6345. <i> California.</i>
  6346.  
  6347. 1279
  6348. 00:58:05,783 --> 00:58:07,850
  6349. Lindsay Holland:
  6350. <i> We're at bitcoin 2013.</i>
  6351.  
  6352. 1280
  6353. 00:58:07,852 --> 00:58:10,786
  6354. It's the inaugural conference
  6355. of the bitcoin foundation.
  6356.  
  6357. 1281
  6358. 00:58:14,157 --> 00:58:16,825
  6359. Roger ver:
  6360. <i> Bitcoin is worldwide</i>
  6361. <i>and the vast majority of people</i>
  6362.  
  6363. 1282
  6364. 00:58:16,827 --> 00:58:19,194
  6365. haven't even heard
  6366. of bitcoin yet.
  6367.  
  6368. 1283
  6369. 00:58:19,196 --> 00:58:21,830
  6370. It's more powerful
  6371. than every computer
  6372.  
  6373. 1284
  6374. 00:58:21,832 --> 00:58:23,565
  6375. on the top-500 list
  6376. combined.
  6377.  
  6378. 1285
  6379. 00:58:25,668 --> 00:58:27,002
  6380. It's an awfully
  6381. big world,
  6382.  
  6383. 1286
  6384. 00:58:27,004 --> 00:58:29,104
  6385. an awful lot
  6386. of things
  6387. could happen.
  6388.  
  6389. 1287
  6390. 00:58:29,106 --> 00:58:32,040
  6391. <i> Really, we've been</i>
  6392. <i> on a roller-coaster ride</i>
  6393.  
  6394. 1288
  6395. 00:58:32,042 --> 00:58:35,177
  6396. <i> and I expect, at least</i>
  6397. <i> for the next few years,</i>
  6398.  
  6399. 1289
  6400. 00:58:35,179 --> 00:58:37,746
  6401. <i> we're gonna remain</i>
  6402. <i> on a roller-coaster ride.</i>
  6403.  
  6404. 1290
  6405. 00:58:37,748 --> 00:58:40,249
  6406. I happen to enjoy
  6407. roller coasters.
  6408.  
  6409. 1291
  6410. 00:58:40,251 --> 00:58:42,084
  6411. - I think they're fun.
  6412. - ( Applause )
  6413.  
  6414. 1292
  6415. 00:58:43,453 --> 00:58:44,620
  6416. Daniel:
  6417. <i> Just a few weeks earlier</i>
  6418.  
  6419. 1293
  6420. 00:58:44,622 --> 00:58:46,255
  6421. <i> Cameron and Tyler winklevoss,</i>
  6422.  
  6423. 1294
  6424. 00:58:46,257 --> 00:58:48,257
  6425. <i> known for their involvement</i>
  6426. <i> in Facebook,</i>
  6427.  
  6428. 1295
  6429. 00:58:48,259 --> 00:58:50,192
  6430. <i> announce that</i>
  6431. <i> they own a 1% stake</i>
  6432.  
  6433. 1296
  6434. 00:58:50,194 --> 00:58:51,994
  6435. <i> of all bitcoins</i>
  6436. <i> in existence.</i>
  6437.  
  6438. 1297
  6439. 00:58:51,996 --> 00:58:54,096
  6440. <i> Worth around $11 million.</i>
  6441.  
  6442. 1298
  6443. 00:58:54,098 --> 00:58:56,698
  6444. - How's it going? How are you?
  6445. - Nice to meet you.
  6446.  
  6447. 1299
  6448. 00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:59,668
  6449. Daniel:
  6450. <i> They also made</i>
  6451. <i> a $1.5 million investment</i>
  6452.  
  6453. 1300
  6454. 00:58:59,670 --> 00:59:01,837
  6455. <i> in Charlie's company,</i>
  6456. <i> bitinstant.</i>
  6457.  
  6458. 1301
  6459. 00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:04,339
  6460. We started looking
  6461. seriously at it
  6462.  
  6463. 1302
  6464. 00:59:04,341 --> 00:59:05,874
  6465. at the end
  6466. of last summer
  6467.  
  6468. 1303
  6469. 00:59:05,876 --> 00:59:08,510
  6470. and started purchasing
  6471. around that time.
  6472.  
  6473. 1304
  6474. 00:59:08,512 --> 00:59:11,179
  6475. I think a light bulb just
  6476. went off and we said, "wow.
  6477.  
  6478. 1305
  6479. 00:59:11,181 --> 00:59:13,515
  6480. The implication of this
  6481. could be enormous.
  6482.  
  6483. 1306
  6484. 00:59:13,517 --> 00:59:15,651
  6485. Tyler:
  6486. <i> If everyone in the world</i>
  6487. <i> could have a bitcoin address,</i>
  6488.  
  6489. 1307
  6490. 00:59:15,653 --> 00:59:18,620
  6491. everyone in the world
  6492. could be banked
  6493. fairly quickly.
  6494.  
  6495. 1308
  6496. 00:59:18,622 --> 00:59:20,522
  6497. <i> And when you consider that,</i>
  6498.  
  6499. 1309
  6500. 00:59:20,524 --> 00:59:22,357
  6501. it's a very powerful idea.
  6502.  
  6503. 1310
  6504. 00:59:22,359 --> 00:59:25,160
  6505. And bitcoin can
  6506. make that happen.
  6507.  
  6508. 1311
  6509. 00:59:25,162 --> 00:59:26,395
  6510. We're going
  6511. all over the world.
  6512.  
  6513. 1312
  6514. 00:59:26,397 --> 00:59:27,529
  6515. We're going
  6516. to the u.K.
  6517.  
  6518. 1313
  6519. 00:59:27,531 --> 00:59:28,797
  6520. We're going to Australia.
  6521.  
  6522. 1314
  6523. 00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:30,799
  6524. We're going to--
  6525. we're already in Russia.
  6526.  
  6527. 1315
  6528. 00:59:30,801 --> 00:59:32,868
  6529. <i> We're going</i>
  6530. <i> to South America.</i>
  6531.  
  6532. 1316
  6533. 00:59:32,870 --> 00:59:34,403
  6534. We're already
  6535. in Brazil now.
  6536.  
  6537. 1317
  6538. 00:59:34,405 --> 00:59:36,538
  6539. You can buy bitcoin
  6540. at any of our locations.
  6541.  
  6542. 1318
  6543. 00:59:36,540 --> 00:59:39,341
  6544. Daniel:
  6545. <i> It's fun to think that</i>
  6546. <i> satoshi might be here too.</i>
  6547.  
  6548. 1319
  6549. 00:59:39,343 --> 00:59:40,976
  6550. I always wonder
  6551. if somebody is--
  6552.  
  6553. 1320
  6554. 00:59:40,978 --> 00:59:43,345
  6555. if someone here
  6556. somewhere is...
  6557.  
  6558. 1321
  6559. 00:59:43,347 --> 00:59:44,713
  6560. - Yes. I was planning--
  6561. - ...Standing in
  6562. the corner going--
  6563.  
  6564. 1322
  6565. 00:59:52,488 --> 00:59:53,956
  6566. ( both laugh )
  6567.  
  6568. 1323
  6569. 00:59:53,958 --> 00:59:55,157
  6570. What would he do?
  6571.  
  6572. 1324
  6573. 00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:58,493
  6574. What talks would he
  6575. be attending, you know?
  6576.  
  6577. 1325
  6578. 00:59:58,495 --> 01:00:01,163
  6579. Trace Mayer:
  6580. <i> We're seeing the bitcoin</i>
  6581. <i> players in the market</i>
  6582.  
  6583. 1326
  6584. 01:00:01,165 --> 01:00:02,998
  6585. <i> meeting with</i>
  6586. <i> the venture capitalists</i>
  6587.  
  6588. 1327
  6589. 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,700
  6590. <i> and they're all</i>
  6591. <i> beginning to posture</i>
  6592.  
  6593. 1328
  6594. 01:00:04,702 --> 01:00:05,801
  6595. and that's
  6596. very exciting,
  6597.  
  6598. 1329
  6599. 01:00:05,803 --> 01:00:07,169
  6600. because
  6601. it means that
  6602.  
  6603. 1330
  6604. 01:00:07,171 --> 01:00:08,470
  6605. there's gonna be
  6606. a lot more
  6607.  
  6608. 1331
  6609. 01:00:08,472 --> 01:00:09,972
  6610. infrastructure
  6611. built out,
  6612.  
  6613. 1332
  6614. 01:00:09,974 --> 01:00:11,673
  6615. and lot more money
  6616. flowing into the space,
  6617.  
  6618. 1333
  6619. 01:00:11,675 --> 01:00:15,344
  6620. and it's really gonna be
  6621. a big bull market for bitcoin.
  6622.  
  6623. 1334
  6624. 01:00:15,346 --> 01:00:17,679
  6625. Daniel:
  6626. <i> One of the companies</i>
  6627. <i> best known for making</i>
  6628.  
  6629. 1335
  6630. 01:00:17,681 --> 01:00:21,350
  6631. <i>bitcoin accessible for commerce</i>
  6632. <i> is Atlanta-based bitpay.</i>
  6633.  
  6634. 1336
  6635. 01:00:21,352 --> 01:00:23,652
  6636. <i> They are pioneers</i>
  6637. <i> in bitcoin</i>
  6638.  
  6639. 1337
  6640. 01:00:23,654 --> 01:00:25,487
  6641. <i> and provide a service</i>
  6642. <i> that enables merchants</i>
  6643.  
  6644. 1338
  6645. 01:00:25,489 --> 01:00:26,855
  6646. <i> to accept</i>
  6647. <i> bitcoin payments</i>
  6648.  
  6649. 1339
  6650. 01:00:26,857 --> 01:00:29,191
  6651. <i> without dealing</i>
  6652. <i> with its complexities.</i>
  6653.  
  6654. 1340
  6655. 01:00:29,193 --> 01:00:30,993
  6656. We've grown about
  6657. a factor of 10
  6658.  
  6659. 1341
  6660. 01:00:30,995 --> 01:00:33,161
  6661. since the beginning
  6662. of the year.
  6663.  
  6664. 1342
  6665. 01:00:33,163 --> 01:00:34,830
  6666. We were doing about half
  6667. a million dollars a month...
  6668.  
  6669. 1343
  6670. 01:00:34,832 --> 01:00:36,198
  6671. - Yeah.
  6672. - ...Around the turn
  6673. of the year,
  6674.  
  6675. 1344
  6676. 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,000
  6677. and now we're doing
  6678. about $5 million a month.
  6679.  
  6680. 1345
  6681. 01:00:38,002 --> 01:00:41,269
  6682. <i> This is people using bitcoins</i>
  6683. <i>to buy real goods and services.</i>
  6684.  
  6685. 1346
  6686. 01:00:41,271 --> 01:00:42,871
  6687. <i> They're not day trading.</i>
  6688. <i> They're not exchanging.</i>
  6689.  
  6690. 1347
  6691. 01:00:42,873 --> 01:00:44,272
  6692. They're actually
  6693. buying things.
  6694.  
  6695. 1348
  6696. 01:00:44,274 --> 01:00:47,309
  6697. I'm confident that bitcoin is
  6698. the most important invention
  6699.  
  6700. 1349
  6701. 01:00:47,311 --> 01:00:49,044
  6702. in the entire history
  6703. of the world since the Internet.
  6704.  
  6705. 1350
  6706. 01:00:49,046 --> 01:00:50,879
  6707. Daniel:
  6708. <i> Roger ver is an investor</i>
  6709.  
  6710. 1351
  6711. 01:00:50,881 --> 01:00:52,514
  6712. <i> in several</i>
  6713. <i> early bitcoin companies,</i>
  6714.  
  6715. 1352
  6716. 01:00:52,516 --> 01:00:54,216
  6717. <i> including bitpay.</i>
  6718.  
  6719. 1353
  6720. 01:00:54,218 --> 01:00:55,984
  6721. <i> His passion and enthusiasm</i>
  6722.  
  6723. 1354
  6724. 01:00:55,986 --> 01:00:58,687
  6725. <i> has earned him</i>
  6726. <i> the nickname "bitcoin Jesus."</i>
  6727.  
  6728. 1355
  6729. 01:00:58,689 --> 01:01:00,155
  6730. Ver:
  6731. <i> It is going</i>
  6732. <i> to change everything.</i>
  6733.  
  6734. 1356
  6735. 01:01:00,157 --> 01:01:01,490
  6736. And all of you here
  6737. in this room
  6738.  
  6739. 1357
  6740. 01:01:01,492 --> 01:01:03,492
  6741. you're at the very
  6742. very forefront of that.
  6743.  
  6744. 1358
  6745. 01:01:03,494 --> 01:01:06,995
  6746. ( Cheers, applause )
  6747.  
  6748. 1359
  6749. 01:01:06,997 --> 01:01:09,131
  6750. Daniel:
  6751. <i> Roger lives in Tokyo</i>
  6752.  
  6753. 1360
  6754. 01:01:09,133 --> 01:01:12,367
  6755. <i> but travels the earth,</i>
  6756. <i> spreading the good word</i>
  6757. <i> of bitcoin.</i>
  6758.  
  6759. 1361
  6760. 01:01:12,369 --> 01:01:14,369
  6761. Ver:
  6762. <i> The last couple of days</i>
  6763. <i> we've been setting up</i>
  6764.  
  6765. 1362
  6766. 01:01:14,371 --> 01:01:16,705
  6767. <i> a business per day</i>
  6768. <i> to accept bitcoin here</i>
  6769. <i> in the bay area.</i>
  6770.  
  6771. 1363
  6772. 01:01:16,707 --> 01:01:18,006
  6773. <i> Today's business</i>
  6774. <i> is going to be</i>
  6775.  
  6776. 1364
  6777. 01:01:18,008 --> 01:01:20,008
  6778. <i> this super kyo-po</i>
  6779. <i> Korean supermarket.</i>
  6780.  
  6781. 1365
  6782. 01:01:20,010 --> 01:01:23,011
  6783. So for you-- you accept
  6784. credit cards right now?
  6785.  
  6786. 1366
  6787. 01:01:23,013 --> 01:01:25,347
  6788. - Right.
  6789. - The credit card companies
  6790. are charging you 2% or 3%?
  6791.  
  6792. 1367
  6793. 01:01:25,349 --> 01:01:27,382
  6794. - Right.
  6795. - For bitcoin,
  6796. you can do the same thing,
  6797.  
  6798. 1368
  6799. 01:01:27,384 --> 01:01:28,950
  6800. but they'll
  6801. only charge you 1%
  6802.  
  6803. 1369
  6804. 01:01:28,952 --> 01:01:30,886
  6805. and you'll still get dollars
  6806. in your bank account.
  6807.  
  6808. 1370
  6809. 01:01:30,888 --> 01:01:32,387
  6810. If you want,
  6811. you can choose to split
  6812.  
  6813. 1371
  6814. 01:01:32,389 --> 01:01:34,156
  6815. some of the payments
  6816. that you receive
  6817.  
  6818. 1372
  6819. 01:01:34,158 --> 01:01:36,191
  6820. into bitcoins
  6821. and then some into dollars
  6822.  
  6823. 1373
  6824. 01:01:36,193 --> 01:01:38,760
  6825. in whatever ratio you want,
  6826. so you can keep 99% in dollars
  6827.  
  6828. 1374
  6829. 01:01:38,762 --> 01:01:41,930
  6830. and 1% in bitcoin or 99%
  6831. in bitcoin and 1% in dollars.
  6832.  
  6833. 1375
  6834. 01:01:41,932 --> 01:01:43,699
  6835. -<i> Okay. </i>
  6836. - However you want.
  6837. You can decide that.
  6838.  
  6839. 1376
  6840. 01:01:45,201 --> 01:01:46,768
  6841. Daniel:
  6842. <i> Roger is describing</i>
  6843. <i> the service</i>
  6844.  
  6845. 1377
  6846. 01:01:46,770 --> 01:01:48,403
  6847. <i> provided by bitpay.</i>
  6848.  
  6849. 1378
  6850. 01:01:48,405 --> 01:01:50,839
  6851. <i> They take the volatility</i>
  6852. <i> of bitcoin's price</i>
  6853.  
  6854. 1379
  6855. 01:01:50,841 --> 01:01:52,607
  6856. <i> out of the equation</i>
  6857. <i> for merchants</i>
  6858.  
  6859. 1380
  6860. 01:01:52,609 --> 01:01:54,676
  6861. <i> by immediately converting</i>
  6862. <i> bitcoins to dollars</i>
  6863.  
  6864. 1381
  6865. 01:01:54,678 --> 01:01:56,078
  6866. <i> at the time of sale.</i>
  6867.  
  6868. 1382
  6869. 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,113
  6870. So right now we have
  6871. it set to 100% dollars,
  6872.  
  6873. 1383
  6874. 01:01:58,115 --> 01:02:00,248
  6875. so anybody that
  6876. pays here with bitcoin,
  6877.  
  6878. 1384
  6879. 01:02:00,250 --> 01:02:01,850
  6880. they'll deposit the money
  6881. into your bank account
  6882.  
  6883. 1385
  6884. 01:02:01,852 --> 01:02:04,152
  6885. the very next day
  6886. with only a 1% fee.
  6887.  
  6888. 1386
  6889. 01:02:04,154 --> 01:02:05,687
  6890. And I guarantee you
  6891. over the next couple of weeks
  6892.  
  6893. 1387
  6894. 01:02:05,689 --> 01:02:07,022
  6895. you'll have
  6896. lots of computer nerds
  6897.  
  6898. 1388
  6899. 01:02:07,024 --> 01:02:08,990
  6900. that love bitcoins
  6901. will be coming in here
  6902.  
  6903. 1389
  6904. 01:02:08,992 --> 01:02:10,992
  6905. specifically to shop
  6906. at your supermarket,
  6907.  
  6908. 1390
  6909. 01:02:10,994 --> 01:02:12,094
  6910. so that they can pay
  6911. with bitcoin.
  6912.  
  6913. 1391
  6914. 01:02:14,297 --> 01:02:17,199
  6915. The credit card companies,
  6916. just for processing the payment,
  6917.  
  6918. 1392
  6919. 01:02:17,201 --> 01:02:19,534
  6920. they take anywhere from...
  6921.  
  6922. 1393
  6923. 01:02:19,536 --> 01:02:22,637
  6924. 1.5% to over 3%
  6925.  
  6926. 1394
  6927. 01:02:22,639 --> 01:02:24,840
  6928. and then on certain cards
  6929.  
  6930. 1395
  6931. 01:02:24,842 --> 01:02:26,641
  6932. there's even
  6933. a per-transaction fee,
  6934.  
  6935. 1396
  6936. 01:02:26,643 --> 01:02:28,844
  6937. like 20¢ per transaction
  6938.  
  6939. 1397
  6940. 01:02:28,846 --> 01:02:31,012
  6941. plus the percentage
  6942. of the transaction.
  6943.  
  6944. 1398
  6945. 01:02:33,983 --> 01:02:36,017
  6946. ...$11,000, $12,000 a month
  6947.  
  6948. 1399
  6949. 01:02:36,019 --> 01:02:39,454
  6950. on the average
  6951. that they just take
  6952. right out of our account.
  6953.  
  6954. 1400
  6955. 01:02:39,456 --> 01:02:40,622
  6956. I honestly think that
  6957.  
  6958. 1401
  6959. 01:02:40,624 --> 01:02:41,723
  6960. there's a really good chance
  6961.  
  6962. 1402
  6963. 01:02:41,725 --> 01:02:43,458
  6964. that bitcoins will be
  6965. more than $1,000
  6966.  
  6967. 1403
  6968. 01:02:43,460 --> 01:02:45,627
  6969. by the end of the year,
  6970. because everybody who
  6971. hears about--
  6972.  
  6973. 1404
  6974. 01:02:45,629 --> 01:02:47,729
  6975. "wait, I can send money
  6976. to and from anyone I want?"
  6977.  
  6978. 1405
  6979. 01:02:47,731 --> 01:02:50,465
  6980. It's impossible for anyone
  6981. to freeze your account,
  6982.  
  6983. 1406
  6984. 01:02:50,467 --> 01:02:53,568
  6985. it's impossible for anyone
  6986. to block you from sending
  6987. or receiving these bitcoins.
  6988.  
  6989. 1407
  6990. 01:02:53,570 --> 01:02:55,403
  6991. <i> ...Euros,</i>
  6992. <i> so you can see</i>
  6993.  
  6994. 1408
  6995. 01:02:55,405 --> 01:02:57,739
  6996. all these different currency
  6997. exchanges around the world
  6998.  
  6999. 1409
  7000. 01:02:57,741 --> 01:02:59,674
  7001. that exchange
  7002. to and from bitcoins.
  7003.  
  7004. 1410
  7005. 01:02:59,676 --> 01:03:03,178
  7006. You can see there's
  7007. maybe between 50 and 100
  7008. exchanges now.
  7009.  
  7010. 1411
  7011. 01:03:03,180 --> 01:03:05,814
  7012. When I first heard
  7013. about bitcoin and started
  7014. telling everybody about it,
  7015.  
  7016. 1412
  7017. 01:03:05,816 --> 01:03:07,983
  7018. if you looked
  7019. at that same page,
  7020. there were less than 10.
  7021.  
  7022. 1413
  7023. 01:03:07,985 --> 01:03:11,052
  7024. And there's no central
  7025. office that they could raid
  7026. or anything like that?
  7027.  
  7028. 1414
  7029. 01:03:11,054 --> 01:03:12,554
  7030. There's no central--
  7031. it's amazing.
  7032.  
  7033. 1415
  7034. 01:03:12,556 --> 01:03:13,855
  7035. There's no central office,
  7036.  
  7037. 1416
  7038. 01:03:13,857 --> 01:03:15,290
  7039. <i> there's no central place</i>
  7040. <i> they could go to</i>
  7041.  
  7042. 1417
  7043. 01:03:15,292 --> 01:03:17,125
  7044. and say,
  7045. "take Steve's bitcoins,"
  7046.  
  7047. 1418
  7048. 01:03:17,127 --> 01:03:19,127
  7049. or, "give Steve's
  7050. bitcoins to Kevin."
  7051. Do this or do that.
  7052.  
  7053. 1419
  7054. 01:03:19,129 --> 01:03:20,862
  7055. So who's the owner
  7056. of bitcoins?
  7057.  
  7058. 1420
  7059. 01:03:20,864 --> 01:03:23,498
  7060. - Everybody that owns bitcoins?
  7061. - Yeah yeah.
  7062.  
  7063. 1421
  7064. 01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:26,134
  7065. Just like who's
  7066. the owner of gold?
  7067. It's whoever owns some gold.
  7068.  
  7069. 1422
  7070. 01:03:26,136 --> 01:03:28,203
  7071. Short of shutting down
  7072. the entire Internet
  7073.  
  7074. 1423
  7075. 01:03:28,205 --> 01:03:30,338
  7076. in the entire world,
  7077. there's no way to stop bitcoin.
  7078.  
  7079. 1424
  7080. 01:03:36,179 --> 01:03:38,213
  7081. And hit "request payment."
  7082.  
  7083. 1425
  7084. 01:03:38,215 --> 01:03:40,816
  7085. And that's the q.R. Code
  7086. for your bitcoin address.
  7087.  
  7088. 1426
  7089. 01:03:40,818 --> 01:03:42,184
  7090. So I'm gonna scan that...
  7091.  
  7092. 1427
  7093. 01:03:44,253 --> 01:03:46,321
  7094. So now I have your bitcoin
  7095. address on my phone.
  7096.  
  7097. 1428
  7098. 01:03:46,323 --> 01:03:48,290
  7099. I think this is $2,
  7100.  
  7101. 1429
  7102. 01:03:48,292 --> 01:03:50,425
  7103. so I'm going
  7104. to send you $2
  7105.  
  7106. 1430
  7107. 01:03:50,427 --> 01:03:51,993
  7108. worth of bitcoins.
  7109.  
  7110. 1431
  7111. 01:03:56,833 --> 01:03:59,000
  7112. There it is.
  7113. You just received
  7114. that many bitcoins
  7115.  
  7116. 1432
  7117. 01:03:59,002 --> 01:04:00,302
  7118. from me,
  7119. directly with no fee
  7120.  
  7121. 1433
  7122. 01:04:00,304 --> 01:04:02,204
  7123. and if you hit
  7124. the little green square
  7125.  
  7126. 1434
  7127. 01:04:02,206 --> 01:04:04,139
  7128. it'll show you
  7129. the equivalent amount
  7130. in U.S. dollars.
  7131.  
  7132. 1435
  7133. 01:04:04,141 --> 01:04:06,975
  7134. <i> So you just received</i>
  7135. <i> $2 worth of bitcoins</i>
  7136.  
  7137. 1436
  7138. 01:04:06,977 --> 01:04:08,276
  7139. <i> directly from my phone</i>
  7140. <i> to your phone.</i>
  7141.  
  7142. 1437
  7143. 01:04:08,278 --> 01:04:10,312
  7144. And you can send
  7145. money just like that
  7146. anywhere in the world.
  7147.  
  7148. 1438
  7149. 01:04:10,314 --> 01:04:12,480
  7150. You could've told me
  7151. your bitcoin address
  7152.  
  7153. 1439
  7154. 01:04:12,482 --> 01:04:14,349
  7155. by email or posted
  7156. on Facebook
  7157.  
  7158. 1440
  7159. 01:04:14,351 --> 01:04:16,117
  7160. or Twitter or anywhere.
  7161.  
  7162. 1441
  7163. 01:04:16,119 --> 01:04:18,720
  7164. So I could print this
  7165. and have it at the register.
  7166.  
  7167. 1442
  7168. 01:04:18,722 --> 01:04:21,156
  7169. Yeah. Yup, and you can
  7170. check right on your phone
  7171.  
  7172. 1443
  7173. 01:04:21,158 --> 01:04:22,791
  7174. any time that you
  7175. received the payment.
  7176.  
  7177. 1444
  7178. 01:04:22,793 --> 01:04:24,693
  7179. - ( Laughs )
  7180. -<i> Okay. Thank you, Steve.</i>
  7181.  
  7182. 1445
  7183. 01:04:24,695 --> 01:04:25,994
  7184. - Steve:<i> All right. Thanks. </i>
  7185. - Thank you for the tea.
  7186.  
  7187. 1446
  7188. 01:04:25,996 --> 01:04:27,996
  7189. ( Chatting )
  7190.  
  7191. 1447
  7192. 01:04:32,869 --> 01:04:35,303
  7193. Daniel:
  7194. <i> One of the newest standouts</i>
  7195. <i> in the bitcoin space</i>
  7196.  
  7197. 1448
  7198. 01:04:35,305 --> 01:04:38,139
  7199. <i> is a San Francisco company</i>
  7200. <i> named coinbase.</i>
  7201.  
  7202. 1449
  7203. 01:04:38,141 --> 01:04:40,508
  7204. <i> They operate</i>
  7205. <i> a digital wallet service</i>
  7206.  
  7207. 1450
  7208. 01:04:40,510 --> 01:04:44,179
  7209. <i> that makes it simple to buy,</i>
  7210. <i> use and accept bitcoin.</i>
  7211.  
  7212. 1451
  7213. 01:04:44,181 --> 01:04:45,947
  7214. Brian Armstrong:
  7215. <i>I would not be surprised at all</i>
  7216.  
  7217. 1452
  7218. 01:04:45,949 --> 01:04:47,949
  7219. if Google, square, PayPal--
  7220. everybody--
  7221.  
  7222. 1453
  7223. 01:04:47,951 --> 01:04:49,451
  7224. is looking at adding bitcoin
  7225. in one or two years.
  7226.  
  7227. 1454
  7228. 01:04:49,453 --> 01:04:51,953
  7229. <i> By then we need to have</i>
  7230. <i> 50 million wallets.</i>
  7231.  
  7232. 1455
  7233. 01:04:51,955 --> 01:04:53,288
  7234. <i> If we can make this</i>
  7235. <i> easy to use,</i>
  7236.  
  7237. 1456
  7238. 01:04:53,290 --> 01:04:55,357
  7239. <i> it's gonna be huge.</i>
  7240.  
  7241. 1457
  7242. 01:04:55,359 --> 01:04:58,493
  7243. Fred ehrsam:
  7244. <i> My involvement in bitcoin</i>
  7245. <i> is not politically motivated.</i>
  7246.  
  7247. 1458
  7248. 01:04:58,495 --> 01:05:02,764
  7249. - Yeah, dude.
  7250. - Ehrsam:<i> People are realizing</i>
  7251. <i> large capital gains.</i>
  7252.  
  7253. 1459
  7254. 01:05:02,766 --> 01:05:05,467
  7255. When professional
  7256. investors enter the realm,
  7257.  
  7258. 1460
  7259. 01:05:05,469 --> 01:05:07,068
  7260. the stakes
  7261. definitely change.
  7262.  
  7263. 1461
  7264. 01:05:07,070 --> 01:05:09,804
  7265. <i> We raised $5 million</i>
  7266. <i> from union square ventures.</i>
  7267.  
  7268. 1462
  7269. 01:05:09,806 --> 01:05:11,740
  7270. <i> Fred Wilson led</i>
  7271. <i> the round there.</i>
  7272.  
  7273. 1463
  7274. 01:05:11,742 --> 01:05:13,341
  7275. I think bitcoin is still
  7276.  
  7277. 1464
  7278. 01:05:13,343 --> 01:05:15,977
  7279. actually a little bit
  7280. under the radar.
  7281.  
  7282. 1465
  7283. 01:05:15,979 --> 01:05:20,015
  7284. <i> I think it's moved</i>
  7285. <i> past the stage where</i>
  7286. <i> people dismiss it,</i>
  7287.  
  7288. 1466
  7289. 01:05:20,017 --> 01:05:21,816
  7290. <i> but I don't think</i>
  7291. <i> that it's totally</i>
  7292.  
  7293. 1467
  7294. 01:05:21,818 --> 01:05:23,485
  7295. <i> gone mainstream either.</i>
  7296.  
  7297. 1468
  7298. 01:05:23,487 --> 01:05:26,087
  7299. I think we're in that
  7300. middle stage right now.
  7301.  
  7302. 1469
  7303. 01:05:26,089 --> 01:05:28,089
  7304. Daniel:
  7305. <i> At the end of the conference,</i>
  7306.  
  7307. 1470
  7308. 01:05:28,091 --> 01:05:30,125
  7309. <i> jered from tradehill</i>
  7310. <i> threw a party</i>
  7311.  
  7312. 1471
  7313. 01:05:30,127 --> 01:05:32,294
  7314. <i> to celebrate</i>
  7315. <i> how far things had come.</i>
  7316.  
  7317. 1472
  7318. 01:05:32,296 --> 01:05:34,296
  7319. - You guys
  7320. are hot right now.
  7321. - ( Chattering )
  7322.  
  7323. 1473
  7324. 01:05:34,298 --> 01:05:35,931
  7325. - Yup.
  7326. - Congratulations
  7327. on the raise.
  7328.  
  7329. 1474
  7330. 01:05:35,933 --> 01:05:37,499
  7331. - Thank you.
  7332. - It's good money, man.
  7333.  
  7334. 1475
  7335. 01:05:37,501 --> 01:05:39,501
  7336. - Swell do.
  7337. - Yeah.
  7338.  
  7339. 1476
  7340. 01:05:39,503 --> 01:05:43,438
  7341. - I mean--
  7342. - hopefully it's an advancement
  7343. for the community.
  7344.  
  7345. 1477
  7346. 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:46,341
  7347. I am completely
  7348. pro-compliance.
  7349.  
  7350. 1478
  7351. 01:05:46,343 --> 01:05:48,977
  7352. I think if you don't want
  7353. to attach your identity to this,
  7354.  
  7355. 1479
  7356. 01:05:48,979 --> 01:05:52,147
  7357. - just can't work with you.
  7358. - Yeah, so I thought
  7359. I just need to--
  7360.  
  7361. 1480
  7362. 01:05:52,149 --> 01:05:54,950
  7363. I mean the libertarian side
  7364. of me is like, "ehh.
  7365. Yeah, whatever,"
  7366.  
  7367. 1481
  7368. 01:05:54,952 --> 01:05:57,152
  7369. but like,
  7370. from a business perspective,
  7371.  
  7372. 1482
  7373. 01:05:57,154 --> 01:05:59,554
  7374. if people don't play
  7375. by the rules,
  7376.  
  7377. 1483
  7378. 01:05:59,556 --> 01:06:03,058
  7379. - you're not gonna last.
  7380. - Yeah, I completely agree.
  7381.  
  7382. 1484
  7383. 01:06:03,060 --> 01:06:04,459
  7384. - You're gonna just shut down
  7385. or you're gonna go to jail.
  7386. - Yeah.
  7387.  
  7388. 1485
  7389. 01:06:06,162 --> 01:06:08,196
  7390. Daniel:
  7391. <i> Noticeably absent</i>
  7392. <i> from the conference</i>
  7393.  
  7394. 1486
  7395. 01:06:08,198 --> 01:06:09,798
  7396. <i> were representatives</i>
  7397. <i> of bitcoin's</i>
  7398.  
  7399. 1487
  7400. 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,500
  7401. <i> biggest exchange, mt. Gox.</i>
  7402.  
  7403. 1488
  7404. 01:06:12,502 --> 01:06:15,971
  7405. <i> Just days earlier</i>
  7406. <i> the department of homeland</i>
  7407. <i> security</i>
  7408.  
  7409. 1489
  7410. 01:06:15,973 --> 01:06:18,873
  7411. <i> seized more than $5 million</i>
  7412. <i> from their U.S. accounts.</i>
  7413.  
  7414. 1490
  7415. 01:06:20,376 --> 01:06:22,877
  7416. <i> The seizure warrant stated</i>
  7417. <i> that mt. Gox had failed</i>
  7418.  
  7419. 1491
  7420. 01:06:22,879 --> 01:06:24,779
  7421. <i> to register</i>
  7422. <i> as a money transmitter,</i>
  7423.  
  7424. 1492
  7425. 01:06:24,781 --> 01:06:27,615
  7426. <i> putting them in violation</i>
  7427. <i> of the new fincen guidelines.</i>
  7428.  
  7429. 1493
  7430. 01:06:28,818 --> 01:06:30,685
  7431. ( People chattering )
  7432.  
  7433. 1494
  7434. 01:06:34,090 --> 01:06:37,292
  7435. <i> I'm traveling to Tokyo</i>
  7436. <i> to meet mark karpeles,</i>
  7437.  
  7438. 1495
  7439. 01:06:37,294 --> 01:06:39,227
  7440. <i> mt. Gox's reclusive c.E.O.</i>
  7441.  
  7442. 1496
  7443. 01:06:42,465 --> 01:06:44,165
  7444. No bitcoins on here.
  7445.  
  7446. 1497
  7447. 01:06:45,167 --> 01:06:47,836
  7448. Not yet.
  7449.  
  7450. 1498
  7451. 01:06:47,838 --> 01:06:50,138
  7452. <i> That will make this</i>
  7453. <i> completely unnecessary.</i>
  7454.  
  7455. 1499
  7456. 01:06:50,140 --> 01:06:51,840
  7457. <i> But for now it seems</i>
  7458. <i> kind of primitive</i>
  7459.  
  7460. 1500
  7461. 01:06:51,842 --> 01:06:53,608
  7462. that we're exchanging
  7463. paper for paper.
  7464.  
  7465. 1501
  7466. 01:06:53,610 --> 01:06:54,976
  7467. <i> - ( Clicking )</i>
  7468. <i> - ( Coins clinking )</i>
  7469.  
  7470. 1502
  7471. 01:06:54,978 --> 01:06:58,013
  7472. - Nick:<i> And losing. </i>
  7473. - And losing value.
  7474.  
  7475. 1503
  7476. 01:06:58,015 --> 01:07:00,915
  7477. Someone's taking a cut.
  7478. Someone's taking
  7479. a little percent.
  7480.  
  7481. 1504
  7482. 01:07:00,917 --> 01:07:04,252
  7483. <i> Mark and his</i>
  7484. <i> business partner gonzague</i>
  7485.  
  7486. 1505
  7487. 01:07:04,254 --> 01:07:08,356
  7488. <i> are French but they operate</i>
  7489. <i> mt. Gox from offices in Japan.</i>
  7490.  
  7491. 1506
  7492. 01:07:08,358 --> 01:07:12,327
  7493. <i> Originally mt. Gox was</i>
  7494. <i> an exchange for trading cards</i>
  7495.  
  7496. 1507
  7497. 01:07:12,329 --> 01:07:15,196
  7498. <i> used in a game called</i>
  7499. <i> "magic: The gathering."</i>
  7500.  
  7501. 1508
  7502. 01:07:15,198 --> 01:07:17,699
  7503. <i> M.T.G.O.X. Stood for</i>
  7504.  
  7505. 1509
  7506. 01:07:17,701 --> 01:07:20,602
  7507. <i> "magic: The gathering</i>
  7508. <i> online exchange."</i>
  7509.  
  7510. 1510
  7511. 01:07:20,604 --> 01:07:23,805
  7512. <i> In 2011</i>
  7513. <i> mark's company tibanne</i>
  7514.  
  7515. 1511
  7516. 01:07:23,807 --> 01:07:27,442
  7517. <i> bought mt. Gox,</i>
  7518. <i> and his focus has been</i>
  7519. <i> bitcoin ever since.</i>
  7520.  
  7521. 1512
  7522. 01:07:31,013 --> 01:07:32,981
  7523. <i> One of the conditions</i>
  7524. <i> of my visit</i>
  7525.  
  7526. 1513
  7527. 01:07:32,983 --> 01:07:34,349
  7528. <i> is to refrain</i>
  7529. <i> from any discussion</i>
  7530.  
  7531. 1514
  7532. 01:07:34,351 --> 01:07:35,784
  7533. <i> about the d.H.S. Seizure,</i>
  7534.  
  7535. 1515
  7536. 01:07:35,786 --> 01:07:37,519
  7537. <i> due to the ongoing</i>
  7538. <i> investigation.</i>
  7539.  
  7540. 1516
  7541. 01:07:39,655 --> 01:07:42,357
  7542. <i> We've arrived at mt. Gox.</i>
  7543.  
  7544. 1517
  7545. 01:07:42,359 --> 01:07:44,092
  7546. This is
  7547. mt. Gox right here.
  7548.  
  7549. 1518
  7550. 01:07:44,094 --> 01:07:47,362
  7551. There's no big sign
  7552. or anything, no-- no--
  7553.  
  7554. 1519
  7555. 01:07:47,364 --> 01:07:51,699
  7556. it doesn't look like
  7557. a crazy commercial
  7558. establishment.
  7559.  
  7560. 1520
  7561. 01:07:51,701 --> 01:07:54,169
  7562. <i> Despite</i>
  7563. <i> their legal problems</i>
  7564.  
  7565. 1521
  7566. 01:07:54,171 --> 01:07:57,272
  7567. <i> mt. Gox still</i>
  7568. <i> handles more volume</i>
  7569. <i> than any other exchange</i>
  7570.  
  7571. 1522
  7572. 01:07:57,274 --> 01:07:59,107
  7573. <i> and is processing around</i>
  7574.  
  7575. 1523
  7576. 01:07:59,109 --> 01:08:02,277
  7577. <i> $6 million worth</i>
  7578. <i> of bitcoin trades every day.</i>
  7579.  
  7580. 1524
  7581. 01:08:02,279 --> 01:08:04,846
  7582. We had, last year,
  7583. an average of 10,000
  7584. new customers a month.
  7585.  
  7586. 1525
  7587. 01:08:04,848 --> 01:08:06,748
  7588. January, it was 20,000.
  7589.  
  7590. 1526
  7591. 01:08:06,750 --> 01:08:08,683
  7592. Then 30,000, 60,000,
  7593.  
  7594. 1527
  7595. 01:08:08,685 --> 01:08:10,351
  7596. 150,000.
  7597.  
  7598. 1528
  7599. 01:08:10,353 --> 01:08:13,054
  7600. With what's going on,
  7601. we go down,
  7602.  
  7603. 1529
  7604. 01:08:13,056 --> 01:08:15,890
  7605. but we are reaching
  7606. 100,000 new customers
  7607.  
  7608. 1530
  7609. 01:08:15,892 --> 01:08:17,992
  7610. - for may.
  7611. - That's amazing.
  7612.  
  7613. 1531
  7614. 01:08:17,994 --> 01:08:19,561
  7615. - In a month?
  7616. - In a month.
  7617.  
  7618. 1532
  7619. 01:08:19,563 --> 01:08:20,829
  7620. - Wow.
  7621. - So it was like this...
  7622.  
  7623. 1533
  7624. 01:08:20,831 --> 01:08:21,996
  7625. Zip, bup!
  7626.  
  7627. 1534
  7628. 01:08:21,998 --> 01:08:23,832
  7629. But still,
  7630. after what happened
  7631.  
  7632. 1535
  7633. 01:08:23,834 --> 01:08:25,800
  7634. I thought that a lot
  7635. of people will go away
  7636.  
  7637. 1536
  7638. 01:08:25,802 --> 01:08:28,736
  7639. or don't create
  7640. a new account.
  7641.  
  7642. 1537
  7643. 01:08:28,738 --> 01:08:30,405
  7644. But still,
  7645. 100,000 new customers
  7646.  
  7647. 1538
  7648. 01:08:30,407 --> 01:08:31,806
  7649. it's... wow.
  7650.  
  7651. 1539
  7652. 01:08:31,808 --> 01:08:33,541
  7653. And here we've got
  7654. the office.
  7655.  
  7656. 1540
  7657. 01:08:38,180 --> 01:08:39,914
  7658. <i> ( Laughs )</i>
  7659.  
  7660. 1541
  7661. 01:08:42,585 --> 01:08:45,253
  7662. Daniel:
  7663. <i> Mt. Gox employs 18 people</i>
  7664.  
  7665. 1542
  7666. 01:08:45,255 --> 01:08:47,622
  7667. <i> not only is mark the c.E.O.,</i>
  7668.  
  7669. 1543
  7670. 01:08:47,624 --> 01:08:50,492
  7671. <i> he's also the c.F.O.,</i>
  7672. <i> the lead developer</i>
  7673.  
  7674. 1544
  7675. 01:08:50,494 --> 01:08:54,162
  7676. <i> and performs</i>
  7677. <i> all technical operations</i>
  7678. <i> to keep the exchange running.</i>
  7679.  
  7680. 1545
  7681. 01:08:54,164 --> 01:08:55,330
  7682. <i> ( Daniel speaks )</i>
  7683.  
  7684. 1546
  7685. 01:08:55,332 --> 01:08:56,965
  7686. - C++.
  7687. -<i> C++.</i>
  7688.  
  7689. 1547
  7690. 01:08:56,967 --> 01:08:58,633
  7691. <i> Is that your main--</i>
  7692. <i> is that your main</i>
  7693.  
  7694. 1548
  7695. 01:08:58,635 --> 01:08:59,868
  7696. -<i> programming language? </i>
  7697. - No.
  7698.  
  7699. 1549
  7700. 01:08:59,870 --> 01:09:02,203
  7701. I've got a lot of main
  7702. programming languages.
  7703.  
  7704. 1550
  7705. 01:09:02,205 --> 01:09:03,972
  7706. <i> Yeah? What's your favorite</i>
  7707. <i> programming language?</i>
  7708.  
  7709. 1551
  7710. 01:09:03,974 --> 01:09:05,540
  7711. Really depend
  7712. on what I need to do.
  7713.  
  7714. 1552
  7715. 01:09:05,542 --> 01:09:06,941
  7716. I create a good something
  7717. really quick
  7718.  
  7719. 1553
  7720. 01:09:06,943 --> 01:09:08,810
  7721. and I don't care
  7722. about performance,
  7723.  
  7724. 1554
  7725. 01:09:08,812 --> 01:09:10,011
  7726. I use p.H.P.
  7727.  
  7728. 1555
  7729. 01:09:10,013 --> 01:09:11,846
  7730. If I care a little bit
  7731. about performance,
  7732.  
  7733. 1556
  7734. 01:09:11,848 --> 01:09:14,149
  7735. I will use c++
  7736. with q.T. Available.
  7737.  
  7738. 1557
  7739. 01:09:14,151 --> 01:09:17,085
  7740. And if I care
  7741. a lot about performance,
  7742. I will use axum.
  7743.  
  7744. 1558
  7745. 01:09:21,524 --> 01:09:23,892
  7746. When we go in,
  7747. cameras down first,
  7748.  
  7749. 1559
  7750. 01:09:23,894 --> 01:09:26,060
  7751. - until we get to your servers
  7752. and then back up.
  7753. - Exactly.
  7754.  
  7755. 1560
  7756. 01:09:26,062 --> 01:09:27,562
  7757. Okay.
  7758.  
  7759. 1561
  7760. 01:09:34,103 --> 01:09:37,939
  7761. Getting ready
  7762. to go into the mt. Gox
  7763. data center location.
  7764.  
  7765. 1562
  7766. 01:09:37,941 --> 01:09:39,407
  7767. Okay, cameras down.
  7768.  
  7769. 1563
  7770. 01:09:43,245 --> 01:09:45,513
  7771. <i> We were allowed</i>
  7772. <i> to snap a few photographs</i>
  7773.  
  7774. 1564
  7775. 01:09:47,583 --> 01:09:50,218
  7776. <i> ( karpeles speaking )</i>
  7777.  
  7778. 1565
  7779. 01:10:13,142 --> 01:10:15,310
  7780. ( Speaking Japanese )
  7781.  
  7782. 1566
  7783. 01:10:15,312 --> 01:10:17,045
  7784. <i> ( Man speaking</i>
  7785. <i> Japanese )</i>
  7786.  
  7787. 1567
  7788. 01:10:22,952 --> 01:10:24,485
  7789. Daniel:
  7790. <i>If mt. Gox's new trading engine</i>
  7791.  
  7792. 1568
  7793. 01:10:24,487 --> 01:10:27,689
  7794. <i> can really support</i>
  7795. <i> 100 million orders per second,</i>
  7796.  
  7797. 1569
  7798. 01:10:27,691 --> 01:10:30,758
  7799. <i> it should be able</i>
  7800. <i> to scale with the demands</i>
  7801. <i> of professional traders.</i>
  7802.  
  7803. 1570
  7804. 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,162
  7805. <i> But with complex</i>
  7806. <i> legal problems and</i>
  7807. <i> increasing competition,</i>
  7808.  
  7809. 1571
  7810. 01:10:34,164 --> 01:10:36,364
  7811. <i> mark's attention is pulled</i>
  7812. <i> in many directions.</i>
  7813.  
  7814. 1572
  7815. 01:10:47,176 --> 01:10:49,277
  7816. Do you work seven days
  7817. a week, typically?
  7818.  
  7819. 1573
  7820. 01:10:49,279 --> 01:10:51,946
  7821. - Karpeles: Yup.
  7822. - It seems that you do
  7823.  
  7824. 1574
  7825. 01:10:51,948 --> 01:10:53,848
  7826. the majority
  7827. of all the heavy lifting.
  7828.  
  7829. 1575
  7830. 01:10:53,850 --> 01:10:56,751
  7831. - ( Laughs ) Literally.
  7832. - Karpeles: Yeah.
  7833.  
  7834. 1576
  7835. 01:10:56,753 --> 01:11:00,288
  7836. You need to remove
  7837. your shoes in the entrance.
  7838.  
  7839. 1577
  7840. 01:11:03,292 --> 01:11:05,126
  7841. Daniel:
  7842. <i> Mark is a talented man</i>
  7843.  
  7844. 1578
  7845. 01:11:05,128 --> 01:11:07,428
  7846. <i> in one of the world's</i>
  7847. <i> biggest cities...</i>
  7848.  
  7849. 1579
  7850. 01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:10,498
  7851. <i> But maybe he should stick</i>
  7852. <i> to computer keyboards.</i>
  7853.  
  7854. 1580
  7855. 01:11:11,767 --> 01:11:13,735
  7856. ( Classical music playing )
  7857.  
  7858. 1581
  7859. 01:11:22,478 --> 01:11:24,212
  7860. ( Scoffs )
  7861. Okay, I messed it up.
  7862.  
  7863. 1582
  7864. 01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:32,253
  7865. - ( Chuckles ) Awesome.
  7866. -<i> ( Nick claps ) Yay.</i>
  7867.  
  7868. 1583
  7869. 01:11:32,255 --> 01:11:33,655
  7870. Yeah.
  7871.  
  7872. 1584
  7873. 01:11:49,605 --> 01:11:51,806
  7874. Erik voorhees.
  7875. <i> We are here in northern</i>
  7876. <i> New Hampshire</i>
  7877.  
  7878. 1585
  7879. 01:11:51,808 --> 01:11:53,508
  7880. for the porcupine
  7881. freedom festival.
  7882.  
  7883. 1586
  7884. 01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:55,510
  7885. And this is an event
  7886. put on each year
  7887.  
  7888. 1587
  7889. 01:11:55,512 --> 01:11:56,878
  7890. <i> by the free state project.</i>
  7891.  
  7892. 1588
  7893. 01:11:58,681 --> 01:12:01,816
  7894. <i> Basically it's just a bunch</i>
  7895. <i> of crazy anarcho-capitalists,</i>
  7896.  
  7897. 1589
  7898. 01:12:01,818 --> 01:12:03,751
  7899. <i> libertarian types</i>
  7900. <i> in the woods,</i>
  7901.  
  7902. 1590
  7903. 01:12:03,753 --> 01:12:06,120
  7904. <i> with freedom</i>
  7905. <i> and families.</i>
  7906.  
  7907. 1591
  7908. 01:12:06,122 --> 01:12:08,890
  7909. <i> Pretty much</i>
  7910. <i> all of the vendors</i>
  7911. <i> accept bitcoin.</i>
  7912.  
  7913. 1592
  7914. 01:12:12,161 --> 01:12:14,262
  7915. - ( People chattering )
  7916. - Ahh!
  7917.  
  7918. 1593
  7919. 01:12:14,264 --> 01:12:16,264
  7920. It tastes much better
  7921. when bought with bitcoin.
  7922.  
  7923. 1594
  7924. 01:12:16,266 --> 01:12:17,565
  7925. Thanks, guys.
  7926.  
  7927. 1595
  7928. 01:12:18,934 --> 01:12:21,602
  7929. Soups, salads and smoothies.
  7930. ( Chuckles )
  7931.  
  7932. 1596
  7933. 01:12:21,604 --> 01:12:23,604
  7934. I would say one-third
  7935. of our sales
  7936.  
  7937. 1597
  7938. 01:12:23,606 --> 01:12:25,306
  7939. have been in bitcoin.
  7940.  
  7941. 1598
  7942. 01:12:25,308 --> 01:12:27,375
  7943. It's 20 bucks.
  7944. So you're gonna pay
  7945. in bitcoin?
  7946.  
  7947. 1599
  7948. 01:12:27,377 --> 01:12:30,111
  7949. - Uh, yeah.
  7950. - All right.
  7951.  
  7952. 1600
  7953. 01:12:30,113 --> 01:12:32,213
  7954. <i> Last year was</i>
  7955. <i> our first year accepting it</i>
  7956.  
  7957. 1601
  7958. 01:12:32,215 --> 01:12:35,783
  7959. we did maybe 18 transactions,
  7960. 20 transactions at the most.
  7961.  
  7962. 1602
  7963. 01:12:35,785 --> 01:12:37,785
  7964. And now we're
  7965. up to close to 120.
  7966.  
  7967. 1603
  7968. 01:12:37,787 --> 01:12:40,388
  7969. - ( Sizzling )
  7970. -<i> ( Folk music playing )</i>
  7971.  
  7972. 1604
  7973. 01:12:49,331 --> 01:12:52,333
  7974. Daniel:
  7975. <i> This community is really</i>
  7976. <i> one of the largest groups</i>
  7977.  
  7978. 1605
  7979. 01:12:52,335 --> 01:12:54,135
  7980. <i> of people</i>
  7981. <i> in the U.S., I think,</i>
  7982.  
  7983. 1606
  7984. 01:12:54,137 --> 01:12:56,971
  7985. <i> that is truly adopting bitcoin</i>
  7986. <i> and using it as a currency,</i>
  7987.  
  7988. 1607
  7989. 01:12:56,973 --> 01:12:59,240
  7990. <i> because of what it stands for</i>
  7991. <i>and because of what it enables.</i>
  7992.  
  7993. 1608
  7994. 01:12:59,242 --> 01:13:00,742
  7995. <i> ( People chatter )</i>
  7996.  
  7997. 1609
  7998. 01:13:00,744 --> 01:13:03,144
  7999. The world is
  8000. seriously changing now
  8001.  
  8002. 1610
  8003. 01:13:03,146 --> 01:13:05,747
  8004. and it is changing
  8005. in a very interesting,
  8006.  
  8007. 1611
  8008. 01:13:05,749 --> 01:13:07,949
  8009. <i> very radical,</i>
  8010. <i> decentralized,</i>
  8011.  
  8012. 1612
  8013. 01:13:07,951 --> 01:13:09,384
  8014. and, in my opinion,
  8015. positive direction.
  8016.  
  8017. 1613
  8018. 01:13:10,853 --> 01:13:12,787
  8019. Shoot.
  8020. Here it is.
  8021.  
  8022. 1614
  8023. 01:13:12,789 --> 01:13:14,155
  8024. "Price breaks
  8025. the all-time high."
  8026.  
  8027. 1615
  8028. 01:13:15,858 --> 01:13:17,792
  8029. Daniel:
  8030. <i> Vitalik is only 19 years old,</i>
  8031.  
  8032. 1616
  8033. 01:13:17,794 --> 01:13:19,660
  8034. <i> but he has a profound</i>
  8035. <i> understanding</i>
  8036.  
  8037. 1617
  8038. 01:13:19,662 --> 01:13:21,262
  8039. <i> of the complexities</i>
  8040. <i> of bitcoin</i>
  8041.  
  8042. 1618
  8043. 01:13:21,264 --> 01:13:23,231
  8044. <i> and a gift</i>
  8045. <i> for explaining them.</i>
  8046.  
  8047. 1619
  8048. 01:13:23,233 --> 01:13:26,167
  8049. <i> As lead writer</i>
  8050. <i> for "bitcoin magazine,"</i>
  8051.  
  8052. 1620
  8053. 01:13:26,169 --> 01:13:29,837
  8054. <i> he's been traveling</i>
  8055. <i> the world, covering bitcoin</i>
  8056. <i> for the past year.</i>
  8057.  
  8058. 1621
  8059. 01:13:29,839 --> 01:13:33,608
  8060. I'm a big fan
  8061. of the decentralization
  8062. concept, in principle.
  8063.  
  8064. 1622
  8065. 01:13:33,610 --> 01:13:37,512
  8066. You know, have lots--
  8067. lots of different societies
  8068.  
  8069. 1623
  8070. 01:13:37,514 --> 01:13:41,949
  8071. operating according
  8072. to whatever people's
  8073. own beliefs are.
  8074.  
  8075. 1624
  8076. 01:13:41,951 --> 01:13:44,085
  8077. Bitcoin has unique properties
  8078.  
  8079. 1625
  8080. 01:13:44,087 --> 01:13:46,921
  8081. that no other system
  8082. in the world has had before.
  8083.  
  8084. 1626
  8085. 01:13:46,923 --> 01:13:50,691
  8086. It really seems like
  8087. the only practical way forward.
  8088.  
  8089. 1627
  8090. 01:13:50,693 --> 01:13:53,094
  8091. As you move away
  8092. from cash
  8093.  
  8094. 1628
  8095. 01:13:53,096 --> 01:13:55,663
  8096. into your debit cards
  8097. and your credit cards,
  8098.  
  8099. 1629
  8100. 01:13:55,665 --> 01:13:56,631
  8101. you essentially
  8102. are giving up
  8103.  
  8104. 1630
  8105. 01:13:56,633 --> 01:13:58,433
  8106. a certain degree
  8107. of your privacy
  8108.  
  8109. 1631
  8110. 01:13:58,435 --> 01:14:00,067
  8111. without even
  8112. really knowing it.
  8113.  
  8114. 1632
  8115. 01:14:00,069 --> 01:14:01,769
  8116. <i> It's important to understand</i>
  8117. <i> that bitcoin is not</i>
  8118.  
  8119. 1633
  8120. 01:14:01,771 --> 01:14:04,071
  8121. automatically,
  8122. perfectly anonymous.
  8123.  
  8124. 1634
  8125. 01:14:04,073 --> 01:14:07,675
  8126. But what it does is it
  8127. enables you to be anonymous
  8128. if you wish to.
  8129.  
  8130. 1635
  8131. 01:14:07,677 --> 01:14:10,578
  8132. Daniel:
  8133. <i> Erik voorhees is</i>
  8134. <i> the founder and part owner</i>
  8135.  
  8136. 1636
  8137. 01:14:10,580 --> 01:14:12,513
  8138. <i> of a hugely popular</i>
  8139. <i> bitcoin gambling site</i>
  8140.  
  8141. 1637
  8142. 01:14:12,515 --> 01:14:13,981
  8143. <i> called satoshi dice.</i>
  8144.  
  8145. 1638
  8146. 01:14:15,250 --> 01:14:17,485
  8147. <i> Satoshi dice is</i>
  8148. <i> the first of a new breed</i>
  8149.  
  8150. 1639
  8151. 01:14:17,487 --> 01:14:18,853
  8152. <i> of provably fair</i>
  8153. <i> betting games</i>
  8154.  
  8155. 1640
  8156. 01:14:18,855 --> 01:14:20,421
  8157. <i> that use bitcoin.</i>
  8158.  
  8159. 1641
  8160. 01:14:20,423 --> 01:14:22,490
  8161. <i> Since all bets are public,</i>
  8162.  
  8163. 1642
  8164. 01:14:22,492 --> 01:14:25,726
  8165. <i> anyone can verify</i>
  8166. <i> the odds and payouts.</i>
  8167.  
  8168. 1643
  8169. 01:14:25,728 --> 01:14:28,463
  8170. <i> At its peak,</i>
  8171. <i> satoshi dice was responsible</i>
  8172.  
  8173. 1644
  8174. 01:14:28,465 --> 01:14:30,064
  8175. <i> for more bitcoin transactions</i>
  8176.  
  8177. 1645
  8178. 01:14:30,066 --> 01:14:33,501
  8179. <i> than all other uses</i>
  8180. <i> of bitcoin combined.</i>
  8181.  
  8182. 1646
  8183. 01:14:33,503 --> 01:14:36,537
  8184. <i> It played an important role</i>
  8185. <i> in bitcoin's development</i>
  8186.  
  8187. 1647
  8188. 01:14:36,539 --> 01:14:38,372
  8189. <i> as one</i>
  8190. <i> of the first applications</i>
  8191.  
  8192. 1648
  8193. 01:14:38,374 --> 01:14:41,309
  8194. <i> to really test</i>
  8195. <i> what the bitcoin network</i>
  8196. <i> could handle.</i>
  8197.  
  8198. 1649
  8199. 01:14:41,311 --> 01:14:45,313
  8200. <i> Recently Erik moved</i>
  8201. <i> his entire operations</i>
  8202. <i> out of the U.S.</i>
  8203.  
  8204. 1650
  8205. 01:14:45,315 --> 01:14:46,948
  8206. <i> And into Panama.</i>
  8207.  
  8208. 1651
  8209. 01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:49,116
  8210. <i> He started a company</i>
  8211. <i> called coinapult</i>
  8212.  
  8213. 1652
  8214. 01:14:49,118 --> 01:14:52,386
  8215. <i> that lets you send bitcoin</i>
  8216. <i> via s.M.S. And email.</i>
  8217.  
  8218. 1653
  8219. 01:14:52,388 --> 01:14:54,388
  8220. Voorhees:
  8221. I think most people,
  8222.  
  8223. 1654
  8224. 01:14:54,390 --> 01:14:55,990
  8225. at least in America,
  8226.  
  8227. 1655
  8228. 01:14:55,992 --> 01:14:59,327
  8229. believe that when they put
  8230. $1,000 into their bank,
  8231.  
  8232. 1656
  8233. 01:14:59,329 --> 01:15:02,563
  8234. the bank is holding $1,000
  8235. in its vault for them.
  8236.  
  8237. 1657
  8238. 01:15:02,565 --> 01:15:06,000
  8239. And they don't realize
  8240. that 99% of all the dollars
  8241. are digital.
  8242.  
  8243. 1658
  8244. 01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:08,736
  8245. The fact that
  8246. we have these tokens
  8247. called paper cash
  8248.  
  8249. 1659
  8250. 01:15:08,738 --> 01:15:11,672
  8251. is the exception
  8252. to the rule.
  8253.  
  8254. 1660
  8255. 01:15:11,674 --> 01:15:14,775
  8256. <i> People see the cash</i>
  8257. <i> and they think that</i>
  8258. <i> that's what the money is,</i>
  8259.  
  8260. 1661
  8261. 01:15:14,777 --> 01:15:16,944
  8262. but it's all digital
  8263. and it's been that way
  8264. for decades.
  8265.  
  8266. 1662
  8267. 01:15:16,946 --> 01:15:18,913
  8268. You guys moved
  8269. your business to Panama.
  8270.  
  8271. 1663
  8272. 01:15:18,915 --> 01:15:20,982
  8273. <i> What was the primary driver</i>
  8274. <i> in that?</i>
  8275.  
  8276. 1664
  8277. 01:15:20,984 --> 01:15:22,517
  8278. Voorhees:
  8279. <i> If you're a U.S. company,</i>
  8280.  
  8281. 1665
  8282. 01:15:22,519 --> 01:15:25,686
  8283. you have to follow
  8284. the arcane U.S. regulations
  8285.  
  8286. 1666
  8287. 01:15:25,688 --> 01:15:27,421
  8288. for all of your customers
  8289. around the world.
  8290.  
  8291. 1667
  8292. 01:15:27,423 --> 01:15:29,490
  8293. So if you do business
  8294. with some rural farmer
  8295. in Africa,
  8296.  
  8297. 1668
  8298. 01:15:29,492 --> 01:15:31,626
  8299. you're gonna need to get
  8300. his social security number,
  8301.  
  8302. 1669
  8303. 01:15:31,628 --> 01:15:33,027
  8304. you're gonna need to get
  8305. all this information
  8306.  
  8307. 1670
  8308. 01:15:33,029 --> 01:15:34,762
  8309. that Washington tells you
  8310. is important.
  8311.  
  8312. 1671
  8313. 01:15:34,764 --> 01:15:36,030
  8314. <i> We did not want</i>
  8315. <i> to have to apply</i>
  8316.  
  8317. 1672
  8318. 01:15:36,032 --> 01:15:38,666
  8319. <i> the U.S. financial</i>
  8320. <i> regulatory scheme</i>
  8321.  
  8322. 1673
  8323. 01:15:38,668 --> 01:15:41,369
  8324. <i> to customers</i>
  8325. <i> in sub-saharan Africa.</i>
  8326.  
  8327. 1674
  8328. 01:15:41,371 --> 01:15:42,803
  8329. <i> I don't think</i>
  8330. <i> the developed world's</i>
  8331.  
  8332. 1675
  8333. 01:15:42,805 --> 01:15:45,106
  8334. gonna be where bitcoin
  8335. really takes off, long-term,
  8336.  
  8337. 1676
  8338. 01:15:45,108 --> 01:15:47,208
  8339. because our banking system's
  8340. worked decently well.
  8341.  
  8342. 1677
  8343. 01:15:47,210 --> 01:15:48,809
  8344. <i> Many people around the world</i>
  8345.  
  8346. 1678
  8347. 01:15:48,811 --> 01:15:50,611
  8348. <i> don't have any</i>
  8349. <i> bank accounts whatsoever.</i>
  8350.  
  8351. 1679
  8352. 01:15:50,613 --> 01:15:51,979
  8353. Ultimately, those are
  8354. the types of people
  8355.  
  8356. 1680
  8357. 01:15:51,981 --> 01:15:53,814
  8358. who will find
  8359. the most value out of bitcoin.
  8360.  
  8361. 1681
  8362. 01:15:59,187 --> 01:16:01,088
  8363. Daniel:
  8364. <i> One month later</i>
  8365. <i> Erik announced</i>
  8366.  
  8367. 1682
  8368. 01:16:01,090 --> 01:16:03,958
  8369. <i> he had sold satoshi dice</i>
  8370. <i> to an anonymous investor.</i>
  8371.  
  8372. 1683
  8373. 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,593
  8374. <i> The price?</i>
  8375.  
  8376. 1684
  8377. 01:16:05,595 --> 01:16:09,564
  8378. <i> 126,315 bitcoins,</i>
  8379.  
  8380. 1685
  8381. 01:16:09,566 --> 01:16:13,334
  8382. <i> worth around</i>
  8383. <i> $11.5 million.</i>
  8384.  
  8385. 1686
  8386. 01:16:13,336 --> 01:16:16,771
  8387. Most of the new
  8388. offices in this city
  8389. are in this condition,
  8390.  
  8391. 1687
  8392. 01:16:16,773 --> 01:16:18,472
  8393. all still
  8394. what's called "gray."
  8395.  
  8396. 1688
  8397. 01:16:18,474 --> 01:16:20,942
  8398. Not ready, no Internet,
  8399. no electricity-- nothing.
  8400.  
  8401. 1689
  8402. 01:16:20,944 --> 01:16:22,910
  8403. But we actually got one
  8404. that was finished,
  8405.  
  8406. 1690
  8407. 01:16:22,912 --> 01:16:25,880
  8408. <i> so we moved in and we are</i>
  8409. <i> super excited about it.</i>
  8410.  
  8411. 1691
  8412. 01:16:26,949 --> 01:16:29,050
  8413. You can see
  8414. all the skyscrapers
  8415.  
  8416. 1692
  8417. 01:16:29,052 --> 01:16:31,619
  8418. of new banks and everything
  8419. getting built up here.
  8420.  
  8421. 1693
  8422. 01:16:31,621 --> 01:16:34,589
  8423. This is the financial center
  8424. for central America.
  8425.  
  8426. 1694
  8427. 01:16:34,591 --> 01:16:37,959
  8428. So it was fitting
  8429. that we establish
  8430. ourselves here as well.
  8431.  
  8432. 1695
  8433. 01:16:40,262 --> 01:16:41,329
  8434. Still setting up the office.
  8435.  
  8436. 1696
  8437. 01:16:41,331 --> 01:16:43,431
  8438. We've been here
  8439. for two weeks.
  8440.  
  8441. 1697
  8442. 01:16:43,433 --> 01:16:44,832
  8443. We're getting
  8444. walls put in.
  8445.  
  8446. 1698
  8447. 01:16:44,834 --> 01:16:46,567
  8448. We've got furniture.
  8449.  
  8450. 1699
  8451. 01:16:46,569 --> 01:16:48,836
  8452. Voorhees:
  8453. <i> This is the brains</i>
  8454. <i> of the operation.</i>
  8455.  
  8456. 1700
  8457. 01:16:48,838 --> 01:16:51,305
  8458. -<i> This is Mr. ira. </i>
  8459. - Howdy.
  8460.  
  8461. 1701
  8462. 01:16:51,307 --> 01:16:54,241
  8463. He can program anything,
  8464. and you can see all these
  8465. books he's reading.
  8466.  
  8467. 1702
  8468. 01:16:54,243 --> 01:16:57,645
  8469. What have we got here?
  8470. We've got "cryptanalysis."
  8471.  
  8472. 1703
  8473. 01:16:57,647 --> 01:16:59,647
  8474. We've got
  8475. "everyday cryptography,"
  8476.  
  8477. 1704
  8478. 01:16:59,649 --> 01:17:03,351
  8479. "introduction
  8480. to mathematical cryptography."
  8481.  
  8482. 1705
  8483. 01:17:03,353 --> 01:17:05,753
  8484. I read all of these,
  8485. of course, when I was
  8486. much younger,
  8487.  
  8488. 1706
  8489. 01:17:05,755 --> 01:17:07,722
  8490. but ira's trying
  8491. to catch up with me.
  8492.  
  8493. 1707
  8494. 01:17:13,328 --> 01:17:15,329
  8495. <i> The bitcoin phenomenon</i>
  8496. <i> is trying</i>
  8497.  
  8498. 1708
  8499. 01:17:15,331 --> 01:17:17,331
  8500. <i> to take control</i>
  8501. <i> of money away</i>
  8502.  
  8503. 1709
  8504. 01:17:17,333 --> 01:17:19,767
  8505. <i> from the state and return it</i>
  8506. <i> to individuals.</i>
  8507.  
  8508. 1710
  8509. 01:17:19,769 --> 01:17:21,335
  8510. It's trying to separate
  8511. money and state
  8512.  
  8513. 1711
  8514. 01:17:21,337 --> 01:17:23,337
  8515. in the same way
  8516. and for the same reasons
  8517.  
  8518. 1712
  8519. 01:17:23,339 --> 01:17:25,439
  8520. <i> that it was important</i>
  8521. <i> to separate church and state.</i>
  8522.  
  8523. 1713
  8524. 01:17:25,441 --> 01:17:29,076
  8525. <i> There's a wonderful quote</i>
  8526. <i> from one of the rothschilds--</i>
  8527.  
  8528. 1714
  8529. 01:17:29,078 --> 01:17:30,811
  8530. <i> "give me control</i>
  8531. <i> of a nation's money</i>
  8532.  
  8533. 1715
  8534. 01:17:30,813 --> 01:17:32,913
  8535. <i> and I care not</i>
  8536. <i> who makes its laws."</i>
  8537.  
  8538. 1716
  8539. 01:17:32,915 --> 01:17:35,216
  8540. <i> So I'm trying to play</i>
  8541. <i> my part in that narrative.</i>
  8542.  
  8543. 1717
  8544. 01:17:36,785 --> 01:17:38,319
  8545. Daniel:
  8546. <i> Outside of the United States,</i>
  8547.  
  8548. 1718
  8549. 01:17:38,321 --> 01:17:40,287
  8550. <i> billions of people</i>
  8551. <i> don't have access</i>
  8552.  
  8553. 1719
  8554. 01:17:40,289 --> 01:17:42,256
  8555. <i> to basic banking services.</i>
  8556.  
  8557. 1720
  8558. 01:17:42,258 --> 01:17:44,158
  8559. <i> Bitcoin can level</i>
  8560. <i> the playing field</i>
  8561.  
  8562. 1721
  8563. 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:45,459
  8564. <i> and help bring</i>
  8565. <i> developing nations</i>
  8566.  
  8567. 1722
  8568. 01:17:45,461 --> 01:17:46,861
  8569. <i> into the global economy.</i>
  8570.  
  8571. 1723
  8572. 01:17:50,699 --> 01:17:52,667
  8573. ( Chattering )
  8574.  
  8575. 1724
  8576. 01:17:54,803 --> 01:17:56,270
  8577. Cheers, cheers.
  8578.  
  8579. 1725
  8580. 01:17:59,141 --> 01:18:01,542
  8581. Voorhees:
  8582. <i> Eventually people are</i>
  8583. <i> going to use a currency</i>
  8584.  
  8585. 1726
  8586. 01:18:01,544 --> 01:18:03,310
  8587. <i> that is as free</i>
  8588. <i> as the Internet</i>
  8589.  
  8590. 1727
  8591. 01:18:03,312 --> 01:18:05,813
  8592. <i> because people</i>
  8593. <i> will seek out freedom</i>
  8594. <i> wherever they can.</i>
  8595.  
  8596. 1728
  8597. 01:18:05,815 --> 01:18:07,948
  8598. <i> And just as</i>
  8599. <i> the government can't</i>
  8600. <i> stop the Internet</i>
  8601.  
  8602. 1729
  8603. 01:18:07,950 --> 01:18:11,285
  8604. <i> and the freedom of speech,</i>
  8605. <i> it can't stop bitcoin and</i>
  8606. <i> the freedom of money.</i>
  8607.  
  8608. 1730
  8609. 01:18:11,287 --> 01:18:14,121
  8610. <i> So we're just gonna</i>
  8611. <i> have to see how hard</i>
  8612. <i> they try to do it.</i>
  8613.  
  8614. 1731
  8615. 01:18:14,123 --> 01:18:15,923
  8616. It's scary
  8617. but it's exciting,
  8618.  
  8619. 1732
  8620. 01:18:15,925 --> 01:18:18,659
  8621. because at the other end
  8622. freedom typically wins.
  8623.  
  8624. 1733
  8625. 01:18:18,661 --> 01:18:20,961
  8626. <i> We just have see how long</i>
  8627. <i> it takes to get there.</i>
  8628.  
  8629. 1734
  8630. 01:18:20,963 --> 01:18:22,029
  8631. ( Shouts )
  8632.  
  8633. 1735
  8634. 01:18:40,649 --> 01:18:42,850
  8635. Daniel:
  8636. <i> As summer rolled on,</i>
  8637.  
  8638. 1736
  8639. 01:18:42,852 --> 01:18:45,586
  8640. <i> the bitcoin industry</i>
  8641. <i> continued to flourish.</i>
  8642.  
  8643. 1737
  8644. 01:18:45,588 --> 01:18:46,954
  8645. It's hard to remember
  8646. the days where I was
  8647.  
  8648. 1738
  8649. 01:18:46,956 --> 01:18:48,589
  8650. running this thing
  8651. out of my basement
  8652.  
  8653. 1739
  8654. 01:18:48,591 --> 01:18:49,857
  8655. and with one or two people.
  8656.  
  8657. 1740
  8658. 01:18:49,859 --> 01:18:52,793
  8659. Bitinstant was just
  8660. a domain name.
  8661.  
  8662. 1741
  8663. 01:18:52,795 --> 01:18:54,428
  8664. Daniel:
  8665. <i> Charlie and bitinstant</i>
  8666.  
  8667. 1742
  8668. 01:18:54,430 --> 01:18:56,030
  8669. <i> moved into</i>
  8670. <i> their new offices</i>
  8671.  
  8672. 1743
  8673. 01:18:56,032 --> 01:18:58,265
  8674. I always wonder
  8675. if satoshi knew
  8676.  
  8677. 1744
  8678. 01:18:58,267 --> 01:19:00,634
  8679. that he was gonna build
  8680. something that would foster
  8681.  
  8682. 1745
  8683. 01:19:00,636 --> 01:19:02,803
  8684. companies like this,
  8685.  
  8686. 1746
  8687. 01:19:02,805 --> 01:19:05,573
  8688. <i> where we're actually like</i>
  8689. <i> a company with jobs</i>
  8690.  
  8691. 1747
  8692. 01:19:05,575 --> 01:19:08,476
  8693. based on something
  8694. that someone we don't know
  8695. wrote a paper on.
  8696.  
  8697. 1748
  8698. 01:19:08,478 --> 01:19:10,344
  8699. It's kind of creepy
  8700. if you think about it.
  8701.  
  8702. 1749
  8703. 01:19:10,346 --> 01:19:12,847
  8704. I wonder if he's watching us
  8705. right now or something.
  8706.  
  8707. 1750
  8708. 01:19:14,382 --> 01:19:15,816
  8709. Daniel:
  8710. <i> In San Francisco,</i>
  8711.  
  8712. 1751
  8713. 01:19:15,818 --> 01:19:17,651
  8714. <i> jered and tradehill had moved</i>
  8715.  
  8716. 1752
  8717. 01:19:17,653 --> 01:19:20,121
  8718. <i> into their new space as well.</i>
  8719.  
  8720. 1753
  8721. 01:19:20,123 --> 01:19:22,456
  8722. It sounds funny.
  8723. It's not a $100-million
  8724. market anymore.
  8725.  
  8726. 1754
  8727. 01:19:22,458 --> 01:19:24,058
  8728. It's grown beyond that.
  8729.  
  8730. 1755
  8731. 01:19:24,060 --> 01:19:26,560
  8732. <i> More professional people</i>
  8733. <i> are in the space</i>
  8734.  
  8735. 1756
  8736. 01:19:26,562 --> 01:19:29,163
  8737. and they're expecting
  8738. to deal with other
  8739. professionals.
  8740.  
  8741. 1757
  8742. 01:19:29,165 --> 01:19:31,265
  8743. Daniel:
  8744. <i> But just as things</i>
  8745. <i> were ramping up,</i>
  8746.  
  8747. 1758
  8748. 01:19:31,267 --> 01:19:33,968
  8749. <i> regulators started taking</i>
  8750. <i> a closer look at bitcoin.</i>
  8751.  
  8752. 1759
  8753. 01:19:36,104 --> 01:19:38,773
  8754. Some bad news
  8755. for bitcoin, or is it?
  8756.  
  8757. 1760
  8758. 01:19:38,775 --> 01:19:40,608
  8759. Its days of glory
  8760. could be ending.
  8761.  
  8762. 1761
  8763. 01:19:40,610 --> 01:19:42,042
  8764. At least
  8765. two dozen companies
  8766.  
  8767. 1762
  8768. 01:19:42,044 --> 01:19:43,577
  8769. have been subpoenaed
  8770. by New York's
  8771.  
  8772. 1763
  8773. 01:19:43,579 --> 01:19:45,412
  8774. department of
  8775. financial services.
  8776.  
  8777. 1764
  8778. 01:19:45,414 --> 01:19:46,814
  8779. Can't be a good thing.
  8780.  
  8781. 1765
  8782. 01:19:46,816 --> 01:19:50,251
  8783. Daniel:
  8784. <i> Bitinstant, bitpay, coinbase</i>
  8785.  
  8786. 1766
  8787. 01:19:50,253 --> 01:19:53,921
  8788. <i> and winklevoss capital</i>
  8789. <i> were all issued subpoenas.</i>
  8790.  
  8791. 1767
  8792. 01:19:53,923 --> 01:19:56,157
  8793. We want to make sure that
  8794. as this enterprise grows
  8795.  
  8796. 1768
  8797. 01:19:56,159 --> 01:19:58,125
  8798. and if it does become
  8799. a place where
  8800.  
  8801. 1769
  8802. 01:19:58,127 --> 01:20:00,427
  8803. a lot of people are engaging
  8804. in financial transactions
  8805.  
  8806. 1770
  8807. 01:20:00,429 --> 01:20:03,264
  8808. that we have sufficient
  8809. protections in place.
  8810.  
  8811. 1771
  8812. 01:20:03,266 --> 01:20:05,933
  8813. Daniel:
  8814. <i> With increased pressure</i>
  8815. <i> in banking compliance issues,</i>
  8816.  
  8817. 1772
  8818. 01:20:05,935 --> 01:20:08,736
  8819. <i> bitinstant was forced</i>
  8820. <i> to suspend services.</i>
  8821.  
  8822. 1773
  8823. 01:20:15,744 --> 01:20:17,745
  8824. <i> Jered faced</i>
  8825. <i> similar battles.</i>
  8826.  
  8827. 1774
  8828. 01:20:17,747 --> 01:20:20,080
  8829. <i> Due to a lack</i>
  8830. <i> of regulation,</i>
  8831.  
  8832. 1775
  8833. 01:20:20,082 --> 01:20:23,717
  8834. <i> many banks decided to cut ties</i>
  8835. <i> with bitcoin companies.</i>
  8836.  
  8837. 1776
  8838. 01:20:23,719 --> 01:20:25,653
  8839. <i> Without a U.S. bank account</i>
  8840.  
  8841. 1777
  8842. 01:20:25,655 --> 01:20:27,555
  8843. <i> tradehill can't operate,</i>
  8844.  
  8845. 1778
  8846. 01:20:27,557 --> 01:20:29,156
  8847. <i> and jered was forced</i>
  8848. <i> to pull the plug.</i>
  8849.  
  8850. 1779
  8851. 01:20:34,095 --> 01:20:36,797
  8852. Regulation typically evolves
  8853.  
  8854. 1780
  8855. 01:20:36,799 --> 01:20:38,966
  8856. much more slowly
  8857. than innovation.
  8858.  
  8859. 1781
  8860. 01:20:38,968 --> 01:20:41,101
  8861. And regulations
  8862. cannot keep pace
  8863.  
  8864. 1782
  8865. 01:20:41,103 --> 01:20:42,369
  8866. with the pace
  8867. of innovation.
  8868.  
  8869. 1783
  8870. 01:20:43,772 --> 01:20:45,472
  8871. Singer:
  8872. <i> Explaining bitcoin to a bank</i>
  8873.  
  8874. 1784
  8875. 01:20:45,474 --> 01:20:47,174
  8876. feels like explaining
  8877. Amazon.Com
  8878.  
  8879. 1785
  8880. 01:20:47,176 --> 01:20:49,076
  8881. to Barnes & noble.
  8882.  
  8883. 1786
  8884. 01:20:49,078 --> 01:20:51,212
  8885. Daniel:
  8886. <i> Until lawmakers catch up,</i>
  8887.  
  8888. 1787
  8889. 01:20:51,214 --> 01:20:53,214
  8890. <i> startups like tradehill</i>
  8891. <i> and bitinstant</i>
  8892.  
  8893. 1788
  8894. 01:20:53,216 --> 01:20:54,548
  8895. <i> are left out on a limb.</i>
  8896.  
  8897. 1789
  8898. 01:20:56,384 --> 01:20:59,887
  8899. Banks do not want to bank
  8900. bitcoin companies.
  8901.  
  8902. 1790
  8903. 01:20:59,889 --> 01:21:01,622
  8904. When you have regulation,
  8905. you can comply with it.
  8906.  
  8907. 1791
  8908. 01:21:01,624 --> 01:21:04,525
  8909. When you don't
  8910. have any regulation,
  8911. they're not exactly sure.
  8912.  
  8913. 1792
  8914. 01:21:04,527 --> 01:21:07,561
  8915. And if the banks aren't sure,
  8916. they just default to "no."
  8917.  
  8918. 1793
  8919. 01:21:07,563 --> 01:21:11,365
  8920. New regulation takes
  8921. at least one year to develop
  8922.  
  8923. 1794
  8924. 01:21:11,367 --> 01:21:13,234
  8925. propose and adopt.
  8926.  
  8927. 1795
  8928. 01:21:13,236 --> 01:21:14,635
  8929. And in many cases,
  8930.  
  8931. 1796
  8932. 01:21:14,637 --> 01:21:16,103
  8933. it can take
  8934. much longer than that.
  8935.  
  8936. 1797
  8937. 01:21:18,740 --> 01:21:20,741
  8938. Shrem:
  8939. <i> I won't let this go.</i>
  8940.  
  8941. 1798
  8942. 01:21:20,743 --> 01:21:23,210
  8943. <i> I will fight till the end</i>
  8944. <i> for bitcoin.</i>
  8945.  
  8946. 1799
  8947. 01:21:23,212 --> 01:21:25,546
  8948. Whether I have
  8949. to work on the street
  8950. or sell lemonade,
  8951.  
  8952. 1800
  8953. 01:21:25,548 --> 01:21:27,281
  8954. bitcoin's gonna succeed
  8955. one way or another
  8956.  
  8957. 1801
  8958. 01:21:27,283 --> 01:21:28,215
  8959. and I'm gonna be
  8960. a part of it.
  8961.  
  8962. 1802
  8963. 01:21:35,223 --> 01:21:37,091
  8964. Daniel:
  8965. <i> Over the past several months</i>
  8966.  
  8967. 1803
  8968. 01:21:37,093 --> 01:21:40,060
  8969. <i> the bitcoin mining landscape</i>
  8970. <i> has changed significantly</i>
  8971.  
  8972. 1804
  8973. 01:21:40,062 --> 01:21:41,629
  8974. <i> ( machines humming )</i>
  8975.  
  8976. 1805
  8977. 01:21:41,631 --> 01:21:43,864
  8978. ( Whirs )
  8979.  
  8980. 1806
  8981. 01:21:46,601 --> 01:21:48,168
  8982. Daniel:
  8983. <i> When I started,</i>
  8984.  
  8985. 1807
  8986. 01:21:48,170 --> 01:21:50,271
  8987. <i> bitcoin mining was</i>
  8988. <i> a hobby for geeks.</i>
  8989.  
  8990. 1808
  8991. 01:21:50,273 --> 01:21:52,339
  8992. <i> Now it's big business.</i>
  8993.  
  8994. 1809
  8995. 01:21:52,341 --> 01:21:54,308
  8996. <i> In order to continue mining</i>
  8997.  
  8998. 1810
  8999. 01:21:54,310 --> 01:21:55,843
  9000. and continue playing
  9001. in the game
  9002.  
  9003. 1811
  9004. 01:21:55,845 --> 01:21:57,244
  9005. and be competitive
  9006. and be profitable,
  9007.  
  9008. 1812
  9009. 01:21:57,246 --> 01:21:58,913
  9010. <i> I would have to spend</i>
  9011.  
  9012. 1813
  9013. 01:21:58,915 --> 01:22:00,681
  9014. <i> hundreds of thousands</i>
  9015. <i> of dollars on gear.</i>
  9016.  
  9017. 1814
  9018. 01:22:02,284 --> 01:22:04,251
  9019. <i> The 18 miners</i>
  9020. <i> I ordered from avalon</i>
  9021.  
  9022. 1815
  9023. 01:22:04,253 --> 01:22:06,020
  9024. <i> never arrived.</i>
  9025.  
  9026. 1816
  9027. 01:22:06,022 --> 01:22:08,155
  9028. <i> And the units</i>
  9029. <i> from butterfly labs</i>
  9030.  
  9031. 1817
  9032. 01:22:08,157 --> 01:22:10,190
  9033. <i> took over a year to ship.</i>
  9034.  
  9035. 1818
  9036. 01:22:10,192 --> 01:22:12,326
  9037. <i> By the time I got them,</i>
  9038.  
  9039. 1819
  9040. 01:22:12,328 --> 01:22:14,428
  9041. <i> bitcoin mining was</i>
  9042. <i> so competitive,</i>
  9043.  
  9044. 1820
  9045. 01:22:14,430 --> 01:22:15,930
  9046. <i> that I would never</i>
  9047. <i> be able to mine back</i>
  9048.  
  9049. 1821
  9050. 01:22:15,932 --> 01:22:18,465
  9051. <i> all the coins</i>
  9052. <i> I used to buy them.</i>
  9053.  
  9054. 1822
  9055. 01:22:18,467 --> 01:22:20,768
  9056. See that computer?
  9057. That computer makes bitcoins.
  9058.  
  9059. 1823
  9060. 01:22:20,770 --> 01:22:24,538
  9061. And this is all
  9062. the other computers that
  9063. are making bitcoins too,
  9064.  
  9065. 1824
  9066. 01:22:24,540 --> 01:22:27,741
  9067. <i> and it goes straight up</i>
  9068. <i> in a line up in the air.</i>
  9069.  
  9070. 1825
  9071. 01:22:27,743 --> 01:22:29,076
  9072. And that's 'cause
  9073. there's a lot people
  9074.  
  9075. 1826
  9076. 01:22:29,078 --> 01:22:31,979
  9077. that are making bitcoins
  9078. with computers like that.
  9079.  
  9080. 1827
  9081. 01:22:31,981 --> 01:22:33,948
  9082. <i> As my new units</i>
  9083. <i> are arriving,</i>
  9084.  
  9085. 1828
  9086. 01:22:33,950 --> 01:22:35,549
  9087. <i> I'm selling them</i>
  9088. <i> for bitcoins</i>
  9089.  
  9090. 1829
  9091. 01:22:35,551 --> 01:22:36,984
  9092. <i> to try to recoup</i>
  9093. <i> what I can.</i>
  9094.  
  9095. 1830
  9096. 01:22:36,986 --> 01:22:38,752
  9097. If you don't mind grabbing
  9098. those other cables,
  9099.  
  9100. 1831
  9101. 01:22:38,754 --> 01:22:40,521
  9102. - I'm not coming back up.
  9103. - Nick:<i> Okay.</i>
  9104.  
  9105. 1832
  9106. 01:22:41,957 --> 01:22:43,023
  9107. Daniel:
  9108. <i> I'm taking a pretty big hit...</i>
  9109.  
  9110. 1833
  9111. 01:22:44,592 --> 01:22:46,260
  9112. <i> But overall</i>
  9113. <i> the mining experience</i>
  9114.  
  9115. 1834
  9116. 01:22:46,262 --> 01:22:47,528
  9117. <i> has still been worth it.</i>
  9118.  
  9119. 1835
  9120. 01:22:51,833 --> 01:22:53,600
  9121. <i> My mining days</i>
  9122. <i> may be over,</i>
  9123.  
  9124. 1836
  9125. 01:22:53,602 --> 01:22:55,803
  9126. <i> but I'm still very involved</i>
  9127. <i> with bitcoin.</i>
  9128.  
  9129. 1837
  9130. 01:22:55,805 --> 01:22:57,972
  9131. With bitcoin,
  9132. it's a money system where
  9133.  
  9134. 1838
  9135. 01:22:57,974 --> 01:23:01,041
  9136. it's backed by math.
  9137. It's back by the laws
  9138. of mathematics
  9139.  
  9140. 1839
  9141. 01:23:01,043 --> 01:23:02,743
  9142. and by the rules
  9143. of the protocol.
  9144.  
  9145. 1840
  9146. 01:23:02,745 --> 01:23:04,745
  9147. I keep thinking
  9148. that there's gotta be
  9149. an easier way
  9150.  
  9151. 1841
  9152. 01:23:04,747 --> 01:23:06,447
  9153. to just set up
  9154. a secondary protocol
  9155.  
  9156. 1842
  9157. 01:23:06,449 --> 01:23:08,415
  9158. to trade private keys.
  9159.  
  9160. 1843
  9161. 01:23:08,417 --> 01:23:10,751
  9162. Every time I log on,
  9163. I see another dot on China
  9164.  
  9165. 1844
  9166. 01:23:10,753 --> 01:23:13,420
  9167. and I'm like, this is why
  9168. right now the price has gone up.
  9169.  
  9170. 1845
  9171. 01:23:13,422 --> 01:23:16,557
  9172. Daniel:
  9173. <i> The price is</i>
  9174. <i> nearing 150 again.</i>
  9175.  
  9176. 1846
  9177. 01:23:16,559 --> 01:23:18,492
  9178. <i> Many attribute it</i>
  9179. <i> to the explosion</i>
  9180.  
  9181. 1847
  9182. 01:23:18,494 --> 01:23:20,894
  9183. <i> of bitcoin's popularity</i>
  9184. <i> in China.</i>
  9185.  
  9186. 1848
  9187. 01:23:20,896 --> 01:23:22,663
  9188. What's happened recently
  9189. is Chinese people
  9190.  
  9191. 1849
  9192. 01:23:22,665 --> 01:23:23,998
  9193. have really come
  9194. and adopted bitcoin.
  9195.  
  9196. 1850
  9197. 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,834
  9198. <i> As a culture,</i>
  9199. <i> as a nation</i>
  9200.  
  9201. 1851
  9202. 01:23:26,836 --> 01:23:28,836
  9203. <i> Chinese people are keen</i>
  9204. <i> to learn about</i>
  9205.  
  9206. 1852
  9207. 01:23:28,838 --> 01:23:30,871
  9208. <i> things that are</i>
  9209. <i> on the Internet,</i>
  9210.  
  9211. 1853
  9212. 01:23:30,873 --> 01:23:32,606
  9213. <i> things that involve</i>
  9214. <i> math and science.</i>
  9215.  
  9216. 1854
  9217. 01:23:32,608 --> 01:23:35,409
  9218. <i> We think that China can really</i>
  9219. <i> contribute in this space</i>
  9220.  
  9221. 1855
  9222. 01:23:35,411 --> 01:23:37,644
  9223. and help bring bitcoin
  9224. to the mainstream.
  9225.  
  9226. 1856
  9227. 01:23:37,646 --> 01:23:39,780
  9228. Daniel:
  9229. <i> Germany's another part</i>
  9230. <i> of the world</i>
  9231.  
  9232. 1857
  9233. 01:23:39,782 --> 01:23:41,415
  9234. <i> where bitcoin</i>
  9235. <i> has found a home.</i>
  9236.  
  9237. 1858
  9238. 01:23:41,417 --> 01:23:43,884
  9239. Woman:
  9240. <i> It's starting to get normal</i>
  9241. <i> if one person a day</i>
  9242.  
  9243. 1859
  9244. 01:23:43,886 --> 01:23:46,286
  9245. <i> comes in and buys</i>
  9246. <i> a coffee with bitcoins.</i>
  9247.  
  9248. 1860
  9249. 01:23:46,288 --> 01:23:49,223
  9250. People are looking
  9251. for a new way of paying--
  9252.  
  9253. 1861
  9254. 01:23:49,225 --> 01:23:50,824
  9255. not through banks,
  9256. not with Euros,
  9257.  
  9258. 1862
  9259. 01:23:50,826 --> 01:23:51,992
  9260. not with dollars.
  9261. Something new.
  9262.  
  9263. 1863
  9264. 01:23:53,795 --> 01:23:55,829
  9265. Daniel:
  9266. <i> The German ministry of finance</i>
  9267.  
  9268. 1864
  9269. 01:23:55,831 --> 01:23:57,931
  9270. <i> even became the first</i>
  9271. <i> governing body</i>
  9272.  
  9273. 1865
  9274. 01:23:57,933 --> 01:24:00,567
  9275. <i> to officially classify bitcoin</i>
  9276. <i> as "private money."</i>
  9277.  
  9278. 1866
  9279. 01:24:00,569 --> 01:24:02,703
  9280. I believe if we want to get
  9281.  
  9282. 1867
  9283. 01:24:02,705 --> 01:24:04,772
  9284. some justice back
  9285. into our society,
  9286.  
  9287. 1868
  9288. 01:24:04,774 --> 01:24:07,741
  9289. <i> we should reduce</i>
  9290. <i> the importance of the banks.</i>
  9291.  
  9292. 1869
  9293. 01:24:07,743 --> 01:24:10,778
  9294. <i> Bitcoin is banking</i>
  9295. <i> without banks,</i>
  9296.  
  9297. 1870
  9298. 01:24:10,780 --> 01:24:11,278
  9299. so here we go.
  9300.  
  9301. 1871
  9302. 01:24:15,083 --> 01:24:17,885
  9303. The FBI today shut down
  9304. what it's calling
  9305.  
  9306. 1872
  9307. 01:24:17,887 --> 01:24:20,187
  9308. the most sophisticated
  9309. Internet site
  9310.  
  9311. 1873
  9312. 01:24:20,189 --> 01:24:22,456
  9313. <i> in the business</i>
  9314. <i> of selling hard drugs,</i>
  9315.  
  9316. 1874
  9317. 01:24:22,458 --> 01:24:25,225
  9318. <i> including heroin,</i>
  9319. <i> cocaine and LSD.</i>
  9320.  
  9321. 1875
  9322. 01:24:25,227 --> 01:24:26,727
  9323. Daniel:
  9324. <i> In the Sci-Fi section</i>
  9325.  
  9326. 1876
  9327. 01:24:26,729 --> 01:24:28,796
  9328. <i> of a San Francisco</i>
  9329. <i> public library,</i>
  9330.  
  9331. 1877
  9332. 01:24:28,798 --> 01:24:30,964
  9333. <i> undercover agents</i>
  9334. <i> surprised a young man</i>
  9335.  
  9336. 1878
  9337. 01:24:30,966 --> 01:24:33,467
  9338. <i> quietly working</i>
  9339. <i> on his laptop.</i>
  9340.  
  9341. 1879
  9342. 01:24:33,469 --> 01:24:36,236
  9343. <i> They arrested a 29-year-old</i>
  9344. <i> software engineer</i>
  9345.  
  9346. 1880
  9347. 01:24:36,238 --> 01:24:38,205
  9348. <i> named Ross Albrecht</i>
  9349.  
  9350. 1881
  9351. 01:24:38,207 --> 01:24:40,140
  9352. <i> and accused him</i>
  9353. <i> of being the mastermind</i>
  9354.  
  9355. 1882
  9356. 01:24:40,142 --> 01:24:42,609
  9357. <i> behind the silk road.</i>
  9358.  
  9359. 1883
  9360. 01:24:42,611 --> 01:24:44,311
  9361. People have always tied
  9362. the silk road to it.
  9363.  
  9364. 1884
  9365. 01:24:44,313 --> 01:24:46,213
  9366. Media has always
  9367. tied the silk road to it,
  9368.  
  9369. 1885
  9370. 01:24:46,215 --> 01:24:49,716
  9371. as if silk road is bitcoin,
  9372. but it's not.
  9373.  
  9374. 1886
  9375. 01:24:49,718 --> 01:24:52,619
  9376. <i> This may be a sign</i>
  9377. <i> that bitcoin is growing up.</i>
  9378.  
  9379. 1887
  9380. 01:24:52,621 --> 01:24:54,655
  9381. It's funny. My friend
  9382. just I.M.'D me and said,
  9383.  
  9384. 1888
  9385. 01:24:54,657 --> 01:24:55,989
  9386. "silk road got raided
  9387.  
  9388. 1889
  9389. 01:24:55,991 --> 01:24:59,393
  9390. and the government seized
  9391. $3.6 million in bitcoin.
  9392.  
  9393. 1890
  9394. 01:24:59,395 --> 01:25:02,262
  9395. Is there a way
  9396. to invalidate bitcoins?"
  9397. ( Chuckles )
  9398.  
  9399. 1891
  9400. 01:25:02,264 --> 01:25:04,131
  9401. I replied, "no."
  9402.  
  9403. 1892
  9404. 01:25:04,133 --> 01:25:06,233
  9405. <i> - ( Daniel speaking )</i>
  9406. <i> - ( Keyboard clicking )</i>
  9407.  
  9408. 1893
  9409. 01:25:11,573 --> 01:25:13,107
  9410. People are starting
  9411. to finally realize
  9412.  
  9413. 1894
  9414. 01:25:13,109 --> 01:25:15,909
  9415. that bitcoin has nothing
  9416. to do with how people use it.
  9417.  
  9418. 1895
  9419. 01:25:15,911 --> 01:25:17,411
  9420. It's just money.
  9421. It's like gold.
  9422.  
  9423. 1896
  9424. 01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:20,781
  9425. <i> Of course,</i>
  9426. <i> not everyone thinks</i>
  9427.  
  9428. 1897
  9429. 01:25:20,783 --> 01:25:23,016
  9430. <i> bitcoin is the way</i>
  9431. <i> of the future.</i>
  9432.  
  9433. 1898
  9434. 01:25:23,018 --> 01:25:24,751
  9435. James angel:
  9436. <i> Bitcoin will not be able</i>
  9437.  
  9438. 1899
  9439. 01:25:24,753 --> 01:25:27,554
  9440. <i> to survive or thrive</i>
  9441.  
  9442. 1900
  9443. 01:25:27,556 --> 01:25:30,290
  9444. without becoming legitimate.
  9445.  
  9446. 1901
  9447. 01:25:30,292 --> 01:25:31,558
  9448. I don't see it
  9449.  
  9450. 1902
  9451. 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,827
  9452. having a serious place
  9453.  
  9454. 1903
  9455. 01:25:33,829 --> 01:25:34,995
  9456. in our financial system.
  9457.  
  9458. 1904
  9459. 01:25:36,197 --> 01:25:37,431
  9460. <i> There are</i>
  9461. <i> really good reasons</i>
  9462.  
  9463. 1905
  9464. 01:25:37,433 --> 01:25:39,733
  9465. <i> why we have central banks</i>
  9466.  
  9467. 1906
  9468. 01:25:39,735 --> 01:25:42,636
  9469. <i> that have the power</i>
  9470. <i> to put out financial fires</i>
  9471.  
  9472. 1907
  9473. 01:25:42,638 --> 01:25:44,104
  9474. <i> by printing money.</i>
  9475.  
  9476. 1908
  9477. 01:25:44,106 --> 01:25:47,474
  9478. I'm worried
  9479. about the technology.
  9480.  
  9481. 1909
  9482. 01:25:47,476 --> 01:25:49,243
  9483. <i> As darth vader once said,</i>
  9484.  
  9485. 1910
  9486. 01:25:49,245 --> 01:25:51,245
  9487. <i> "don't put all your faith</i>
  9488. <i> in technology."</i>
  9489.  
  9490. 1911
  9491. 01:25:51,247 --> 01:25:52,813
  9492. <i> I think</i>
  9493. <i> 10 years from now,</i>
  9494.  
  9495. 1912
  9496. 01:25:52,815 --> 01:25:54,915
  9497. <i> we'll look back on this</i>
  9498. <i> and just kind of chuckle</i>
  9499.  
  9500. 1913
  9501. 01:25:54,917 --> 01:25:57,284
  9502. <i> at the bitcoin fad.</i>
  9503.  
  9504. 1914
  9505. 01:25:57,286 --> 01:25:59,486
  9506. "Oh yeah,
  9507. I remember bitcoin.
  9508.  
  9509. 1915
  9510. 01:25:59,488 --> 01:26:02,556
  9511. Oh yeah,
  9512. I remember that."
  9513.  
  9514. 1916
  9515. 01:26:02,558 --> 01:26:04,024
  9516. Man:
  9517. It's financial freedom.
  9518.  
  9519. 1917
  9520. 01:26:04,026 --> 01:26:06,393
  9521. Come on, bro.
  9522. This is the new world, bro.
  9523.  
  9524. 1918
  9525. 01:26:06,395 --> 01:26:08,195
  9526. Daniel:
  9527. <i> Others are more optimistic.</i>
  9528.  
  9529. 1919
  9530. 01:26:08,197 --> 01:26:09,963
  9531. I think
  9532. within 10 years,
  9533.  
  9534. 1920
  9535. 01:26:09,965 --> 01:26:12,065
  9536. you're gonna have a lot
  9537. of people using bitcoin,
  9538.  
  9539. 1921
  9540. 01:26:12,067 --> 01:26:13,734
  9541. but they're not
  9542. gonna realize that
  9543. they're using it,
  9544.  
  9545. 1922
  9546. 01:26:13,736 --> 01:26:15,802
  9547. because it's gonna
  9548. be a protocol that's
  9549. imbedded underneath
  9550.  
  9551. 1923
  9552. 01:26:15,804 --> 01:26:17,971
  9553. whatever financial service
  9554. they're using today.
  9555.  
  9556. 1924
  9557. 01:26:17,973 --> 01:26:19,973
  9558. <i> And by bitcoin</i>
  9559. <i> being open-source</i>
  9560.  
  9561. 1925
  9562. 01:26:19,975 --> 01:26:21,875
  9563. <i> it's what can allow</i>
  9564. <i> all these different</i>
  9565. <i> mobile wallets</i>
  9566.  
  9567. 1926
  9568. 01:26:21,877 --> 01:26:23,443
  9569. <i> and all these</i>
  9570. <i> financial technologies</i>
  9571.  
  9572. 1927
  9573. 01:26:23,445 --> 01:26:24,645
  9574. <i> to all talk to each other,</i>
  9575.  
  9576. 1928
  9577. 01:26:24,647 --> 01:26:27,047
  9578. especially
  9579. around the world.
  9580.  
  9581. 1929
  9582. 01:26:27,049 --> 01:26:28,649
  9583. Voorhees:
  9584. <i> Whoever the hell satoshi was,</i>
  9585.  
  9586. 1930
  9587. 01:26:28,651 --> 01:26:31,084
  9588. <i> he should go down in history</i>
  9589. <i> as one of the greatest people</i>
  9590.  
  9591. 1931
  9592. 01:26:31,086 --> 01:26:32,719
  9593. <i> or groups of people</i>
  9594. <i> that ever existed.</i>
  9595.  
  9596. 1932
  9597. 01:26:32,721 --> 01:26:34,955
  9598. This is a technology
  9599. that mankind has needed
  9600.  
  9601. 1933
  9602. 01:26:34,957 --> 01:26:36,490
  9603. for thousands of years.
  9604.  
  9605. 1934
  9606. 01:26:36,492 --> 01:26:38,825
  9607. People have been dealing
  9608. with monetary shenanigans
  9609.  
  9610. 1935
  9611. 01:26:38,827 --> 01:26:41,628
  9612. since the Roman empire
  9613. clipping gold coins.
  9614.  
  9615. 1936
  9616. 01:26:41,630 --> 01:26:43,897
  9617. And finally people
  9618. can escape it.
  9619.  
  9620. 1937
  9621. 01:26:43,899 --> 01:26:47,634
  9622. I'm cautious to try
  9623. to predict the future.
  9624.  
  9625. 1938
  9626. 01:26:47,636 --> 01:26:49,069
  9627. <i> We don't really know.</i>
  9628.  
  9629. 1939
  9630. 01:26:49,071 --> 01:26:51,705
  9631. <i> I tend to be</i>
  9632. <i> a technological optimist.</i>
  9633.  
  9634. 1940
  9635. 01:26:51,707 --> 01:26:53,974
  9636. I see the democratization
  9637. of technology
  9638.  
  9639. 1941
  9640. 01:26:53,976 --> 01:26:55,709
  9641. as being
  9642. a really positive thing.
  9643.  
  9644. 1942
  9645. 01:26:55,711 --> 01:26:59,646
  9646. <i> And I think that's</i>
  9647. <i> a really powerful force</i>
  9648.  
  9649. 1943
  9650. 01:26:59,648 --> 01:27:01,515
  9651. <i> that is really</i>
  9652. <i> only just beginning.</i>
  9653.  
  9654. 1944
  9655. 01:27:26,007 --> 01:27:28,175
  9656. Not bad. Oh!
  9657.  
  9658. 1945
  9659. 01:27:30,378 --> 01:27:32,279
  9660. ( Grunts,
  9661. breathing hard )
  9662.  
  9663. 1946
  9664. 01:27:32,281 --> 01:27:34,081
  9665. ( Laughs )
  9666.  
  9667. 1947
  9668. 01:27:37,418 --> 01:27:39,219
  9669. ( Sighs )
  9670.  
  9671. 1948
  9672. 01:27:39,221 --> 01:27:42,356
  9673. Recently, as the price has
  9674. been floating around 200 again,
  9675.  
  9676. 1949
  9677. 01:27:42,358 --> 01:27:45,058
  9678. I have a lot of friends
  9679. that have asked me,
  9680.  
  9681. 1950
  9682. 01:27:45,060 --> 01:27:48,462
  9683. "are you gonna cash out
  9684. some of your bitcoins now?
  9685.  
  9686. 1951
  9687. 01:27:48,464 --> 01:27:51,865
  9688. The price is really high.
  9689. You should get some dollars
  9690. out of it."
  9691.  
  9692. 1952
  9693. 01:27:51,867 --> 01:27:54,935
  9694. I kind of tell 'em,
  9695. "no, don't you see it?"
  9696.  
  9697. 1953
  9698. 01:27:56,771 --> 01:27:58,572
  9699. <i> I've met so many</i>
  9700. <i> interesting people</i>
  9701.  
  9702. 1954
  9703. 01:27:58,574 --> 01:28:00,407
  9704. and there seems to be
  9705. one thing that kind of binds
  9706.  
  9707. 1955
  9708. 01:28:00,409 --> 01:28:02,709
  9709. a lot of them together,
  9710. and that is that
  9711.  
  9712. 1956
  9713. 01:28:02,711 --> 01:28:05,145
  9714. they're willing
  9715. to face opposition
  9716.  
  9717. 1957
  9718. 01:28:05,147 --> 01:28:06,980
  9719. <i>and follow through on the ideas</i>
  9720. <i> that they believe in.</i>
  9721.  
  9722. 1958
  9723. 01:28:08,483 --> 01:28:10,250
  9724. <i> The people who try</i>
  9725. <i> the crazy ideas</i>
  9726.  
  9727. 1959
  9728. 01:28:10,252 --> 01:28:12,919
  9729. <i> often fail and then everybody</i>
  9730. <i> likes to point their fingers</i>
  9731.  
  9732. 1960
  9733. 01:28:12,921 --> 01:28:15,055
  9734. <i> and laugh and say,</i>
  9735. <i> "that was such a stupid idea."</i>
  9736.  
  9737. 1961
  9738. 01:28:15,057 --> 01:28:17,557
  9739. <i> But once in a while</i>
  9740. <i> it works out.</i>
  9741.  
  9742. 1962
  9743. 01:28:17,559 --> 01:28:19,559
  9744. <i> I think bitcoin</i>
  9745. <i> is proving to be</i>
  9746.  
  9747. 1963
  9748. 01:28:19,561 --> 01:28:20,961
  9749. <i> one of those things.</i>
  9750.  
  9751. 1964
  9752. 01:28:28,102 --> 01:28:29,836
  9753. The decision to bring
  9754. virtual currency
  9755.  
  9756. 1965
  9757. 01:28:29,838 --> 01:28:31,938
  9758. within the scope
  9759. of our regulatory framework
  9760.  
  9761. 1966
  9762. 01:28:31,940 --> 01:28:33,073
  9763. should be viewed as
  9764.  
  9765. 1967
  9766. 01:28:33,075 --> 01:28:34,941
  9767. a positive development
  9768. for this sector.
  9769.  
  9770. 1968
  9771. 01:28:34,943 --> 01:28:36,643
  9772. I'm here to testify,
  9773. because I believe
  9774.  
  9775. 1969
  9776. 01:28:36,645 --> 01:28:38,812
  9777. that digital currency
  9778. represents
  9779.  
  9780. 1970
  9781. 01:28:38,814 --> 01:28:40,714
  9782. one of the most important
  9783. technical
  9784.  
  9785. 1971
  9786. 01:28:40,716 --> 01:28:42,749
  9787. and economic innovations
  9788. of our time.
  9789.  
  9790. 1972
  9791. 01:28:42,751 --> 01:28:45,652
  9792. We are enthusiastic
  9793. about the potential
  9794.  
  9795. 1973
  9796. 01:28:45,654 --> 01:28:46,887
  9797. of virtual currencies
  9798.  
  9799. 1974
  9800. 01:28:46,889 --> 01:28:48,989
  9801. and the digital economy
  9802. for social good.
  9803.  
  9804. 1975
  9805. 01:28:53,594 --> 01:28:56,196
  9806. This latest generation
  9807. of technology
  9808.  
  9809. 1976
  9810. 01:28:56,198 --> 01:28:57,731
  9811. which we're talking
  9812. about today
  9813.  
  9814. 1977
  9815. 01:28:57,733 --> 01:29:00,200
  9816. takes things to a whole
  9817. new level.
  9818.  
  9819. 1978
  9820. 01:29:00,202 --> 01:29:01,768
  9821. There's a bit
  9822.  
  9823. 1979
  9824. 01:29:01,770 --> 01:29:03,136
  9825. of a shared
  9826. responsibility here
  9827.  
  9828. 1980
  9829. 01:29:03,138 --> 01:29:04,871
  9830. in trying to figure out
  9831. how to make this work.
  9832.  
  9833. 1981
  9834. 01:29:04,873 --> 01:29:07,541
  9835. It is a little strange
  9836. that bitcoin--
  9837.  
  9838. 1982
  9839. 01:29:07,543 --> 01:29:08,809
  9840. we don't know who
  9841. the creator is
  9842.  
  9843. 1983
  9844. 01:29:08,811 --> 01:29:11,745
  9845. and so that often
  9846.  
  9847. 1984
  9848. 01:29:11,747 --> 01:29:13,113
  9849. conjures up the idea
  9850. that there's
  9851.  
  9852. 1985
  9853. 01:29:13,115 --> 01:29:14,781
  9854. some risk here that
  9855. we have not--
  9856.  
  9857. 1986
  9858. 01:29:14,783 --> 01:29:16,183
  9859. you don't think it was
  9860. Al Gore, do you?
  9861.  
  9862. 1987
  9863. 01:29:16,185 --> 01:29:17,918
  9864. ( Laughter )
  9865.  
  9866. 1988
  9867. 01:29:19,787 --> 01:29:21,288
  9868. If you think a little broadly,
  9869.  
  9870. 1989
  9871. 01:29:21,290 --> 01:29:23,757
  9872. this could, again, have
  9873. huge huge implications.
  9874.  
  9875. 1990
  9876. 01:29:25,193 --> 01:29:27,627
  9877. <i> ( Chimes )</i>
  9878.  
  9879. 1991
  9880. 01:29:33,935 --> 01:29:37,237
  9881. Daniel:
  9882. <i> 2013 was the year bitcoin</i>
  9883. <i> first entered the mainstream</i>
  9884.  
  9885. 1992
  9886. 01:29:37,239 --> 01:29:40,741
  9887. <i> and 2014 got off</i>
  9888. <i> to a dramatic start.</i>
  9889.  
  9890. 1993
  9891. 01:29:40,743 --> 01:29:43,243
  9892. <i> Just as we were wrapping</i>
  9893. <i> things up on our film,</i>
  9894.  
  9895. 1994
  9896. 01:29:43,245 --> 01:29:45,112
  9897. <i> Charlie shrem was arrested</i>
  9898.  
  9899. 1995
  9900. 01:29:45,114 --> 01:29:48,148
  9901. <i> after returning</i>
  9902. <i> from a bitcoin conference</i>
  9903. <i> in Amsterdam.</i>
  9904.  
  9905. 1996
  9906. 01:29:48,150 --> 01:29:51,151
  9907. <i> He could be facing</i>
  9908. <i> up to 30 years in prison</i>
  9909.  
  9910. 1997
  9911. 01:29:51,153 --> 01:29:53,787
  9912. <i> on charges related</i>
  9913. <i> to his activities</i>
  9914. <i> at bitinstant.</i>
  9915.  
  9916. 1998
  9917. 01:29:57,925 --> 01:30:00,560
  9918. In j.F.K.,
  9919. you walk right off the plane,
  9920.  
  9921. 1999
  9922. 01:30:00,562 --> 01:30:02,796
  9923. and you go straight
  9924. to customs.
  9925.  
  9926. 2000
  9927. 01:30:02,798 --> 01:30:04,698
  9928. About three agents
  9929. in front of me
  9930.  
  9931. 2001
  9932. 01:30:04,700 --> 01:30:06,800
  9933. and then four agents
  9934. behind me said,
  9935.  
  9936. 2002
  9937. 01:30:06,802 --> 01:30:08,702
  9938. "Mr. shrem,
  9939. please come with us."
  9940.  
  9941. 2003
  9942. 01:30:08,704 --> 01:30:11,271
  9943. <i> They took me</i>
  9944. <i> to an interrogating room,</i>
  9945.  
  9946. 2004
  9947. 01:30:11,273 --> 01:30:12,873
  9948. <i> told me that</i>
  9949. <i> I'm being arrested</i>
  9950.  
  9951. 2005
  9952. 01:30:12,875 --> 01:30:15,108
  9953. <i> on federal crimes</i>
  9954. <i> of money laundering,</i>
  9955.  
  9956. 2006
  9957. 01:30:15,110 --> 01:30:17,110
  9958. <i> running an unlicensed</i>
  9959. <i> money transmission business</i>
  9960.  
  9961. 2007
  9962. 01:30:17,112 --> 01:30:20,781
  9963. <i> and failing to file</i>
  9964. <i> suspicious-activity reports.</i>
  9965.  
  9966. 2008
  9967. 01:30:20,783 --> 01:30:23,884
  9968. Daniel:
  9969. <i> The indictment alleged that</i>
  9970. <i> Charlie had sold bitcoins</i>
  9971.  
  9972. 2009
  9973. 01:30:23,886 --> 01:30:26,520
  9974. <i> to a reseller that operated</i>
  9975. <i> on the silk road.</i>
  9976.  
  9977. 2010
  9978. 01:30:27,555 --> 01:30:29,623
  9979. What sucks
  9980. is the house arrest.
  9981.  
  9982. 2011
  9983. 01:30:29,625 --> 01:30:33,059
  9984. I have to pretty much be here
  9985. all the time, every day.
  9986. I can't even go outside
  9987.  
  9988. 2012
  9989. 01:30:33,061 --> 01:30:35,295
  9990. unless I'm going
  9991. to my lawyer's office,
  9992. which is once or twice a week.
  9993.  
  9994. 2013
  9995. 01:30:36,597 --> 01:30:38,365
  9996. <i> I pretty much lost</i>
  9997. <i> my freedom,</i>
  9998.  
  9999. 2014
  10000. 01:30:38,367 --> 01:30:40,400
  10001. <i> lost everything</i>
  10002. <i> that I've built</i>
  10003. <i> over the past year.</i>
  10004.  
  10005. 2015
  10006. 01:30:43,204 --> 01:30:45,405
  10007. Daniel:
  10008. <i> Charlie's arrest wasn't</i>
  10009. <i> the only bad news</i>
  10010.  
  10011. 2016
  10012. 01:30:45,407 --> 01:30:48,074
  10013. <i> that rocked the community</i>
  10014. <i> in the new year.</i>
  10015.  
  10016. 2017
  10017. 01:30:48,076 --> 01:30:51,178
  10018. <i> For months there had</i>
  10019. <i> been rumors that mt. Gox</i>
  10020. <i> had become insolvent.</i>
  10021.  
  10022. 2018
  10023. 01:30:51,180 --> 01:30:54,881
  10024. <i> And in February</i>
  10025. <i> the site went offline.</i>
  10026.  
  10027. 2019
  10028. 01:30:54,883 --> 01:30:57,350
  10029. - ( Man speaks )
  10030. - ( Karpeles speaks )
  10031.  
  10032. 2020
  10033. 01:30:57,352 --> 01:30:57,951
  10034. Do you still have
  10035. everyone's bitcoins?
  10036.  
  10037. 2021
  10038. 01:31:01,856 --> 01:31:03,757
  10039. I'm not touching you.
  10040. I haven't touched you.
  10041.  
  10042. 2022
  10043. 01:31:03,759 --> 01:31:06,293
  10044. Do you still have
  10045. everyone's bitcoins?
  10046.  
  10047. 2023
  10048. 01:31:06,295 --> 01:31:08,295
  10049. ( Karpeles speaks )
  10050.  
  10051. 2024
  10052. 01:31:12,467 --> 01:31:14,034
  10053. ( Cameras clicking )
  10054.  
  10055. 2025
  10056. 01:31:14,036 --> 01:31:15,368
  10057. Daniel:
  10058. <i> The rumors turned out</i>
  10059. <i> to be true.</i>
  10060.  
  10061. 2026
  10062. 01:31:15,370 --> 01:31:17,337
  10063. ( Speaking Japanese )
  10064.  
  10065. 2027
  10066. 01:31:33,621 --> 01:31:35,889
  10067. Daniel:
  10068. <i> Mt. Gox had reportedly</i>
  10069. <i> been hacked</i>
  10070.  
  10071. 2028
  10072. 01:31:35,891 --> 01:31:38,892
  10073. <i> and nearly half</i>
  10074. <i> a billion dollars worth</i>
  10075. <i> of bitcoin were missing.</i>
  10076.  
  10077. 2029
  10078. 01:31:42,830 --> 01:31:45,632
  10079. <i> Mark was forced</i>
  10080. <i> to step down as c.E.O.</i>
  10081.  
  10082. 2030
  10083. 01:31:45,634 --> 01:31:47,801
  10084. <i> And mt. Gox went</i>
  10085. <i> into bankruptcy.</i>
  10086.  
  10087. 2031
  10088. 01:31:54,375 --> 01:31:56,977
  10089. A national
  10090. magazine claims
  10091. to have identified
  10092.  
  10093. 2032
  10094. 01:31:56,979 --> 01:31:58,712
  10095. the mysterious founder
  10096. of the worldwide
  10097.  
  10098. 2033
  10099. 01:31:58,714 --> 01:32:00,614
  10100. digital currency
  10101. called bitcoin.
  10102.  
  10103. 2034
  10104. 01:32:00,616 --> 01:32:02,115
  10105. <i> Tonight he is</i>
  10106. <i> speaking out,</i>
  10107.  
  10108. 2035
  10109. 01:32:02,117 --> 01:32:03,450
  10110. <i> but he says he has</i>
  10111.  
  10112. 2036
  10113. 01:32:03,452 --> 01:32:04,951
  10114. <i> nothing whatsoever to do</i>
  10115. <i> with bitcoin.</i>
  10116.  
  10117. 2037
  10118. 01:32:04,953 --> 01:32:06,887
  10119. Man:
  10120. <i> Why did you create</i>
  10121. <i> bitcoin, sir?</i>
  10122.  
  10123. 2038
  10124. 01:32:06,889 --> 01:32:07,954
  10125. Okay.
  10126.  
  10127. 2039
  10128. 01:32:09,624 --> 01:32:11,224
  10129. ( Laughs )
  10130.  
  10131. 2040
  10132. 01:32:11,226 --> 01:32:12,792
  10133. Man #2:
  10134. <i> Sir, can we ask you</i>
  10135. <i> about bitcoin?</i>
  10136.  
  10137. 2041
  10138. 01:32:12,794 --> 01:32:14,027
  10139. - No no no no no.
  10140. -<i> Why were you involved</i>
  10141. <i> in bitcoin?</i>
  10142.  
  10143. 2042
  10144. 01:32:14,029 --> 01:32:17,564
  10145. Okay, I'm not involved
  10146. in bitcoin, okay?
  10147.  
  10148. 2043
  10149. 01:32:17,566 --> 01:32:18,698
  10150. -<i> Who's involved in it? </i>
  10151. - Wait a minute.
  10152.  
  10153. 2044
  10154. 01:32:18,700 --> 01:32:19,966
  10155. I want a free lunch first.
  10156.  
  10157. 2045
  10158. 01:32:19,968 --> 01:32:21,368
  10159. I'm gonna go with this guy.
  10160.  
  10161. 2046
  10162. 01:32:22,737 --> 01:32:25,872
  10163. I want a big one.
  10164. ( Laughs ) Yeah.
  10165.  
  10166. 2047
  10167. 01:32:25,874 --> 01:32:27,908
  10168. Oh, okay. Yeah,
  10169. this will be good.
  10170.  
  10171. 2048
  10172. 01:32:27,910 --> 01:32:30,744
  10173. - Oh jeez.
  10174. - We have some water.
  10175.  
  10176. 2049
  10177. 01:32:30,746 --> 01:32:33,079
  10178. Hey, where's yours?
  10179.  
  10180. 2050
  10181. 01:32:33,081 --> 01:32:36,182
  10182. Daniel:
  10183. <i> "Newsweek" claimed</i>
  10184. <i> the creator of bitcoin</i>
  10185.  
  10186. 2051
  10187. 01:32:36,184 --> 01:32:38,218
  10188. <i> had not used a pseudonym.</i>
  10189.  
  10190. 2052
  10191. 01:32:38,220 --> 01:32:39,953
  10192. <i> They connected the dots</i>
  10193.  
  10194. 2053
  10195. 01:32:39,955 --> 01:32:41,955
  10196. <i> to a 64-year-old</i>
  10197. <i> Japanese man</i>
  10198.  
  10199. 2054
  10200. 01:32:41,957 --> 01:32:44,057
  10201. <i> living in Los Angeles...</i>
  10202.  
  10203. 2055
  10204. 01:32:44,059 --> 01:32:47,527
  10205. <i> Named Dorian prentice</i>
  10206. <i> satoshi nakamoto.</i>
  10207.  
  10208. 2056
  10209. 01:32:48,930 --> 01:32:51,464
  10210. <i> Nakamoto immediately denied</i>
  10211. <i> the allegations</i>
  10212.  
  10213. 2057
  10214. 01:32:51,466 --> 01:32:53,800
  10215. <i> and said he'd tell his story</i>
  10216. <i> to the first reporter</i>
  10217.  
  10218. 2058
  10219. 01:32:53,802 --> 01:32:55,602
  10220. <i> who agreed</i>
  10221. <i> to buy him lunch.</i>
  10222.  
  10223. 2059
  10224. 01:32:55,604 --> 01:32:57,437
  10225. The main reason
  10226. I'm here is
  10227.  
  10228. 2060
  10229. 01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,240
  10230. to clear my name,
  10231. that I have nothing
  10232.  
  10233. 2061
  10234. 01:33:00,242 --> 01:33:02,142
  10235. - to do with bitcoin...
  10236. - Yup.
  10237.  
  10238. 2062
  10239. 01:33:02,144 --> 01:33:04,911
  10240. ...nothing to do
  10241. with developing.
  10242.  
  10243. 2063
  10244. 01:33:04,913 --> 01:33:08,114
  10245. I was just an engineer
  10246. doing something else.
  10247.  
  10248. 2064
  10249. 01:33:08,116 --> 01:33:10,350
  10250. Daniel:
  10251. <i> As the media</i>
  10252. <i> frenzy escalated,</i>
  10253.  
  10254. 2065
  10255. 01:33:10,352 --> 01:33:13,186
  10256. <i> "newsweek's" claims</i>
  10257. <i> started to unravel.</i>
  10258.  
  10259. 2066
  10260. 01:33:13,188 --> 01:33:15,922
  10261. <i> Holes in the story</i>
  10262. <i> led many to believe</i>
  10263.  
  10264. 2067
  10265. 01:33:15,924 --> 01:33:17,924
  10266. <i> it was nothing more</i>
  10267. <i> than sensational journalism.</i>
  10268.  
  10269. 2068
  10270. 01:33:19,393 --> 01:33:21,094
  10271. <i> There was</i>
  10272. <i> no conclusive evidence</i>
  10273.  
  10274. 2069
  10275. 01:33:21,096 --> 01:33:22,762
  10276. <i> tying Dorian to bitcoin.</i>
  10277.  
  10278. 2070
  10279. 01:33:24,365 --> 01:33:25,899
  10280. <i> Amidst the uncertainty,</i>
  10281.  
  10282. 2071
  10283. 01:33:25,901 --> 01:33:27,334
  10284. <i> on that same day...</i>
  10285.  
  10286. 2072
  10287. 01:33:28,469 --> 01:33:30,236
  10288. <i> A comment suddenly appeared</i>
  10289.  
  10290. 2073
  10291. 01:33:30,238 --> 01:33:33,773
  10292. <i> on satoshi's long-dormant</i>
  10293. <i> profile page which read...</i>
  10294.  
  10295. 2074
  10296. 01:33:42,416 --> 01:33:44,818
  10297. <i> Maybe we'll never know</i>
  10298. <i> who created bitcoin...</i>
  10299.  
  10300. 2075
  10301. 01:33:46,020 --> 01:33:47,554
  10302. <i> But the truth is</i>
  10303.  
  10304. 2076
  10305. 01:33:47,556 --> 01:33:49,122
  10306. <i> it doesn't really matter.</i>
  10307.  
  10308. 2077
  10309. 01:33:50,858 --> 01:33:52,459
  10310. <i> Bitcoin belongs</i>
  10311. <i> to everyone.</i>
  10312.  
  10313. 2078
  10314. 01:33:53,594 --> 01:33:55,762
  10315. <i> And the future</i>
  10316. <i> is ours to build.</i>
  10317.  
  10318. 2079
  10319. 01:34:06,340 --> 01:34:08,074
  10320. <i> ( Electronica music playing )</i>
  10321.  
  10322. 2080
  10323. 01:34:22,456 --> 01:34:24,958
  10324. Put $100,000
  10325. on market orders
  10326. right now.
  10327.  
  10328. 2081
  10329. 01:34:24,960 --> 01:34:26,626
  10330. - Why?
  10331. - Let's do it.
  10332. Let's do it. Come on.
  10333.  
  10334. 2082
  10335. 01:34:26,628 --> 01:34:28,595
  10336. - Come on.
  10337. - Why? What's
  10338. gonna happen?
  10339.  
  10340. 2083
  10341. 01:34:28,597 --> 01:34:30,597
  10342. Buy 100k worth
  10343. of bitcoins right now.
  10344.  
  10345. 2084
  10346. 01:34:30,599 --> 01:34:31,731
  10347. - Why?
  10348. - Do it.
  10349.  
  10350. 2085
  10351. 01:34:31,733 --> 01:34:33,099
  10352. - I don't wanna do it.
  10353. - Do it.
  10354.  
  10355. 2086
  10356. 01:34:33,101 --> 01:34:34,734
  10357. You owe me
  10358. $100,000. Do it.
  10359.  
  10360. 2087
  10361. 01:34:34,736 --> 01:34:36,636
  10362. I'll send you
  10363. $100,000 in bitcoins.
  10364.  
  10365. 2088
  10366. 01:34:36,638 --> 01:34:38,204
  10367. No, you buy it.
  10368. But 100k right now.
  10369.  
  10370. 2089
  10371. 01:34:38,206 --> 01:34:40,874
  10372. Dude, I can't. I need
  10373. the floating gox
  10374. for volume.
  10375.  
  10376. 2090
  10377. 01:34:40,876 --> 01:34:44,044
  10378. Closing bell
  10379. for satoshi square!
  10380.  
  10381. 2091
  10382. 01:34:44,046 --> 01:34:45,145
  10383. All right,
  10384. does this look right?
  10385.  
  10386. 2092
  10387. 01:34:45,147 --> 01:34:46,579
  10388. 1-n-p-w? Yup.
  10389.  
  10390. 2093
  10391. 01:34:46,581 --> 01:34:48,048
  10392. Yup, okay.
  10393.  
  10394. 2094
  10395. 01:34:48,050 --> 01:34:49,049
  10396. And I owe you 0.2?
  10397.  
  10398. 2095
  10399. 01:34:49,051 --> 01:34:51,317
  10400. - Uh... 0.18.
  10401. - 0.18.
  10402.  
  10403. 2096
  10404. 01:34:51,319 --> 01:34:54,654
  10405. This is for
  10406. bitcoin t-shirt.
  10407.  
  10408. 2097
  10409. 01:34:54,656 --> 01:34:56,823
  10410. I got 'em.
  10411. A pleasure, sir.
  10412.  
  10413. 2098
  10414. 01:34:56,825 --> 01:34:58,324
  10415. Great doing
  10416. business with you.
  10417.  
  10418. 2099
  10419. 01:34:58,326 --> 01:35:00,427
  10420. - Gonna wear your
  10421. shirt proudly.
  10422. - Do it.
  10423.  
  10424. 2100
  10425. 01:35:00,429 --> 01:35:02,128
  10426. That's one thing
  10427. that's interesting
  10428. about bitcoin.
  10429.  
  10430. 2101
  10431. 01:35:02,130 --> 01:35:04,197
  10432. It's like, how do
  10433. you declare losses?
  10434.  
  10435. 2102
  10436. 01:35:04,199 --> 01:35:06,766
  10437. You point to two
  10438. transactions that
  10439. happened on the Internet
  10440.  
  10441. 2103
  10442. 01:35:06,768 --> 01:35:09,069
  10443. and you tell the I.R.S.
  10444. That you owned that?
  10445.  
  10446. 2104
  10447. 01:35:09,071 --> 01:35:11,438
  10448. "Oh, I used to own
  10449. that and I lost
  10450. the private key."
  10451.  
  10452. 2105
  10453. 01:35:12,707 --> 01:35:14,374
  10454. And then if you
  10455. really do lose it,
  10456.  
  10457. 2106
  10458. 01:35:14,376 --> 01:35:16,376
  10459. how do you write it
  10460. off for taxes?
  10461.  
  10462. 2107
  10463. 01:35:16,378 --> 01:35:18,044
  10464. Oh, that's gonna
  10465. be interesting.
  10466.  
  10467. 2108
  10468. 01:35:18,046 --> 01:35:19,679
  10469. ( Thunder crashes )
  10470.  
  10471. 2109
  10472. 01:35:22,283 --> 01:35:24,584
  10473. We love bitcoin.
  10474.  
  10475. 2110
  10476. 01:35:24,586 --> 01:35:27,020
  10477. Okay, guys, we're gonna
  10478. play a special version
  10479. of hopscotch
  10480.  
  10481. 2111
  10482. 01:35:27,022 --> 01:35:30,290
  10483. called "bitcoin
  10484. blockchain hopscotch."
  10485.  
  10486. 2112
  10487. 01:35:30,292 --> 01:35:33,126
  10488. Oh, you lost
  10489. all your bitcoins!
  10490.  
  10491. 2113
  10492. 01:35:33,128 --> 01:35:34,728
  10493. ( Sighs )
  10494.  
  10495. 2114
  10496. 01:35:34,730 --> 01:35:36,596
  10497. Daniel:
  10498. <i> Who is satoshi nakamoto?</i>
  10499.  
  10500. 2115
  10501. 01:35:36,598 --> 01:35:38,264
  10502. ( Chuckles )
  10503.  
  10504. 2116
  10505. 01:35:38,266 --> 01:35:41,234
  10506. I'd... rather
  10507. not tell you,
  10508.  
  10509. 2117
  10510. 01:35:41,236 --> 01:35:42,602
  10511. - but yeah.
  10512. -<i> Oh, do you know?</i>
  10513.  
  10514. 2118
  10515. 01:35:42,604 --> 01:35:45,338
  10516. Uh, maybe not, maybe.
  10517.  
  10518. 2119
  10519. 01:35:45,340 --> 01:35:46,906
  10520. <i> Oh.</i>
  10521. <i> ( Chuckles )</i>
  10522.  
  10523. 2120
  10524. 01:35:46,908 --> 01:35:49,776
  10525. You know,
  10526. I have a bitcoin
  10527. and a half myself now.
  10528.  
  10529. 2121
  10530. 01:35:49,778 --> 01:35:51,578
  10531. Which I think
  10532. probably in 10 years
  10533.  
  10534. 2122
  10535. 01:35:55,416 --> 01:35:57,083
  10536. Voorhees:
  10537. <i> When you think</i>
  10538. <i> about it hard enough</i>
  10539.  
  10540. 2123
  10541. 01:35:57,085 --> 01:35:59,452
  10542. <i> on a global scale,</i>
  10543. <i> this is a net gain</i>
  10544. <i> for humanity.</i>
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