<Hawthorne>	Hawthorne, of course, picks this exact moment to come walking from the Outer Bawn in search of Harley. His arms are crossed his anger is pulsing white hot, a rage so thick you'd need to cut through it with a Klaive.
May 21 18:26:19 *	Harley smiles at Hawthorne.
May 21 18:26:23 <Harley>	What's up?
May 21 18:26:56 *	Kifel would lift his head from his paws, seeing this seething anger, the lupus rising from his place on the floor shifting to homid form to watch, the the lupus born would move closer to Harley.
May 21 18:28:53 *	Hawthorne grins back, all grins and smile. "Hi. Harley right? My name is Hawthorne. I think we got off onto the wrong foot with you publically correcting me in front of an elder. You see. Where I come from, if a kinfolk does that in front of a Garou, that level of disrespect tyiiiiipically doesn't end well."
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May 21 18:29:36 <Haven>	(Give him a min. )
May 21 18:29:39 <Haven>	(Wb)
May 21 18:29:46 <Hawthorne>	((is just going to assume he ate him <3 ))
May 21 18:30:04 <Harley>	(Thanks.  Sorry.  Repost anything after I asked "What's up?" please?)
May 21 18:30:15 *	Hawthorne grins back, all grins and smile. "Hi. Harley right? My name is Hawthorne. I think we got off onto the wrong foot with you publically correcting me in front of an elder. You see. Where I come from, if a kinfolk does that in front of a Garou, that level of disrespect tyiiiiipically doesn't end well."
May 21 18:31:35 *	Harley grins widely.
May 21 18:32:05 <Harley>	Well, it's a good thing that the rules are different here, then, isn't it?  Too bad, so sad.
May 21 18:33:56 <Hawthorne>	"Yeah. Don't give a fuck. So here's what's going to happen. You're going to get your candy ass on your stomach. Wiggle it back and forth like you're about to take it up the tail. And apologize that you made Suuuuuuuch a bad impression the first time we met. And maybe, maaaaybe we can start over again. Sound fun?"
May 21 18:34:23 *	Harley thinks about it, and rubs his chin a bit.
May 21 18:37:29 <Harley>	Yeah... I'm gonna give that option a VERY hard pass.  You see, you don't scare me.  Because I had my ass beaten to near death on a nearly daily basis by an Elder Ahroun for the better part of a decade.  And the second you TOUCH me, I have this nifty little coin here (pulls out a clay coin) that I break.  It does two things.  First, it summons my gun to me, because I'm not allowed to have it
May 21 18:37:30 <Harley>	except when my life is in danger, because I'm BiPolar and when I'm having an episode I have a tendency to try to commit mass murder.  Secondly, since the gun is in the constant possession of the sept Alpha, he realizes that I'm in trouble and comes running.  So unless you REALLY want to have an ACTUAL bad mark against you in the eyes of Malachi, when so far the only mark against you is in your
May 21 18:37:30 <Harley>	own eyes, I'd back the fuck off me, and walk away.
May 21 18:38:10 <Hawthorne>	((pause.. I want an ST
May 21 18:38:16 <IS-ST>	(I'm here)
May 21 18:38:23 <Hawthorne>	((That's frenzy worthy))
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May 21 18:39:04 <IS-ST>	(#is.dice)
May 21 18:40:51 *	Katherine_ (Lost@hml17271j7bm4d9-dg12726o7gw9s8.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) has joined
May 21 18:41:32 *	Katherine_ makes her way out of her wagon, hair tied back from her face in a messy bun, tablet in hand, a smear of something diry on her cheek
May 21 18:45:30 <Hawthorne>	H can feel the monster within him start creeping out. A throbing fury that's just begging to get out. Sweet and lovely whispers from thousands of years of his own blood coming forth. Humans do not talk like this to us. A human does not act like this to a Garou. So Hawkthorne walks right over to Harley and with a single outstretched hand, he taps him on his chest. Just a light enough pat to show he's not scared.
May 21 18:45:30 <Hawthorne>	"Go break your coin pretty boy. Get your guns you panzy ass piece of shit. A kinfolk like you should be culled for speaking this way to a Garou. So get your elder to come here. Go hide behide someone your words can't cash the check your lips are trying to cash. "
May 21 18:46:49 <Hawthorne>	((derped the last line but you get the jist of it))
May 21 18:46:49 <Katherine_>	what the fuck are you going on about?
May 21 18:47:35 *	Kifel would move to stand between Harley and Hawthorne, his eyes calm, but serious, the lupus ahroun shaking his head. "Wanna back off before you make yourself look like an even bigger jackass?"
May 21 18:48:09 *	Haven is now known as Sage
May 21 18:48:18 *	Katherine_ walks over to where she can see Hawthorne and Harley
May 21 18:48:54 *	WolfPup moves to Kifel's alcove.
May 21 18:49:20 <Harley>	Oh.  So you're going to break the Alpha's rules AND your litany?  Respect those beneath you, remember?  And I'm a pack ALPHA here.  So go ahead and kick my ass.  I won't even waste the effort trying to fight back.  I'll let the sept Alpha or my mate, or my Tribemates like Kifel here, or my packmates fight over which of them gets to beat your ass.  There'll be a line that forms pretty fucking
May 21 18:49:20 <Harley>	quick.  Because I work all day long, day after day, providing for this sept.  What have you done so far?  Not a fucking thing.  I helped hunt down and kill the Mother Gorgon on the night in question.  Where were you?
May 21 18:49:47 *	Sage steps from the Caern Heart, leaning on the wall, folding her arms over her chest as she watches Harley and Hawthorne. A keen eye on both of them.
May 21 18:49:54 *	WolfPup is now known as Avalanche_C
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May 21 18:51:00 *	Taryn sighs as people start fighting again and stomps off.
May 21 18:51:01 *	Katherine_ pinches the bridge of her nose and looks at Harley
May 21 18:51:18 *	Avalanche_C walks up in his warform and looking not pleased at all. His ears are back, the fur along his spine rigid and his teeth bared. He moves up right behind Hawthorne and growls loudly and deadly enough to make anyone piss themselves.
May 21 18:51:20 <Katherine_>	1, I'm never going to get used to that. 2, you sure know how to make friends.
May 21 18:51:28 *	Katherine_ turns to look at Hawthorn
May 21 18:51:37 <Katherine_>	3, sit down and back off.
May 21 18:51:42 <Harley>	(Pause, as Hawthorne is now in Frenzy)
May 21 18:52:47 <Harley>	(Nix stuff after "Not a fucking thing" in my last post, please)
May 21 18:53:18 *	Harley is now known as [11]Harley
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May 21 18:53:40 *	You are now known as Hawthorne_C
May 21 18:53:50 *	Sage is now known as [8]Sage
May 21 18:53:57 *	Malachi is now known as [16]Malachi
May 21 18:54:15 *	Kifel is now known as [10]Kifel
May 21 18:55:42 *	Katherine_ is now known as [8]Katherine
May 21 18:55:43 *	You are now known as [17]Hawthorne_C
May 21 18:58:05 *	Avalanche_C is now known as [11]Avalanche_C
May 21 18:59:53 *	[10]Kifel is now known as [12]Kifel
May 21 19:01:33 <[17]Hawthorne_C>	Snap. That rational side of the Lupine known as Hawthorne?  Turned off like a light switch. But he didn't need it any more. He could see just fine without it. After all, there was a mountain sized inferno burning away. It's light shining over everything. And maybe if he could just show this simple little kinfolk that light then everything might just be alright. Everything would be perfectly alright.
May 21 19:02:36 *	[11]Harley crushes the coin in his handas Hawthorne changes to Crinos, knowing what that means. With a small flash of light, the now-crumbled coin becomes a Desert Eagle in the kinfolk's hand.
May 21 19:03:19 *	IS-ST is now known as [25]IS-ST
May 21 19:04:57 *	[25]IS-ST is now known as [25]IS-ST-3r
May 21 19:05:33 *	You are now known as [17]Hawthorne_C-R1
May 21 19:05:34 *	[16]Malachi is now known as [16]Malachi-3r
May 21 19:12:20 *	SNB (wingedwyrm@48-31-3-325.mtco.com) has joined
May 21 19:13:14 *	[11]Harley is now known as [11]Harley-4A
May 21 19:16:06 <[17]Hawthorne_C-R1>	Blink and you might miss it- H doesn't care about an Alpha's law. Or Garou watching after their kinfolk. He doesn't care about anything but snuffing out this disrespectful kinfolk's sad little light. Hawthorne claws slash upon Harley hardly. coming within centimeters of the human's face and throat, but leaving a long guttural slash upon the length of his torso.
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May 21 19:18:46 *	JamesBeckett is now known as DahliaW
May 21 19:19:37 *	You are now known as [17]Hawthorne_C
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May 21 19:21:01 *	[16]Malachi-3r suddenly appears, the old Strider is wearing his priest robes, his eyes turned to crystal with his hands covered in smaller crystals and dripping blood.  He slams his hands together and a massive roll of thunder rolls out from him, shattering the crystals on his hand and eyes, spraying blood from him as the shockwave pushes the frenzing ga
May 21 19:21:01 *	[16]Malachi-3r rou forward with no real effect.
May 21 19:24:06 <[25]IS-ST-3r>	Following the Alpha's appearance, a black furred missle launches from out of its den, moving between wagons and people as if they were just statues.  It leaps almost 20 feet across the ground, crashing into the bonegnawer and wrapping his jaws around his throat, savaging him seriously and hanging on as they leand on the ground.  "Yeild!" Dark Dreams growls at him, flexing his claws against
May 21 19:24:06 <[25]IS-ST-3r>	the Claith's stomach.
May 21 19:25:28 *	[11]Harley-4A screams as he's cut across most of his chest, his clothes suddenly rags quickly soaking in blood. He falls back from the attack, looking dazed.
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May 21 19:30:07 *	[12]Kifel shifts up into Crinos and piles onto the frenzing crinos, roaring out at Sage... "Someone help Harley! Now!"
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May 21 19:36:03 *	[11]Avalanche_C moves swiftly and picks up Harley getting him away from the situation.
May 21 19:39:45 *	You are now known as [17]Hawthorne_C-5A
May 21 19:41:29 <[11]Avalanche_C>	G> Harley. I have you. Breathe.
May 21 19:46:29 *	[8]Sage with calm exterior she raises a hand palm up and a shroud like the blackest abyss falls over Hawthorne, Kifel and DD, leaving them unable to see anything and any spectators on the outside to see in. “Ava, take my mate to the Caern Heart.”
May 21 19:48:09 *	[11]Avalanche_C nods to Sage and obeys.
May 21 19:49:26 *	[8]Katherine moves over to Harley quickly, falling to her knees and pulling her shirt off to press against the bleeding wounds
May 21 19:50:17 *	[8]Katherine would be going with Avalanche in that case then
May 21 19:50:26 *	[11]Avalanche_C moves with Katherine to help Harley. He is carrying Harley to the caern heart.
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May 21 19:59:27 <[25]IS-ST-3r>	In the black shroud there is the sound of more battle as Dark Dreams growls with a terrifying sound.
May 21 19:59:28 *	[16]Malachi-3r steps up, closing his eyes and swinging his staff.  There is a sudden hollow *THOCK* and the sounds of struggle cease.  "Sage, You can drop your shade now."
May 21 20:00:07 *	[11]Avalanche_C looks to Sage.
May 21 20:00:07 *	[25]IS-ST-3r is now known as IS-ST
May 21 20:00:17 *	[16]Malachi-3r is now known as Malachi
May 21 20:00:25 *	[8]Sage is now known as Sage
May 21 20:00:55 *	[12]Kifel is now known as Kifel
May 21 20:01:06 *	Sage glances towards Malachi briefly, furrowing her brows as she gives a small sigh and drops her shroud, revealing the scene that was blocked from eyes.
May 21 20:01:12 *	[11]Harley-4A is now known as Harley-4A
May 21 20:01:12 <[11]Avalanche_C>	G> I need Help. Harley is bleeding badly.
May 21 20:01:40 *	[8]Katherine is staunching the flow of blood with her shirt.
May 21 20:01:45 <Sage>	Go to the caern heart. He’ll be fine.
May 21 20:01:52 *	[11]Avalanche_C heads to the Caern heart.
May 21 20:02:19 *	Sage looks to Malachi pointing a finger “I want a Philodox judgement.” She simply states before moving to the heart
May 21 20:02:24 <IS-ST>	Dark Dreams backs away from the Bonegnawer, his neck savaged by the elder's fangs, leaving him passed out on the floor.
May 21 20:02:54 *	Malachi nods and howls for SNB.
May 21 20:03:23 *	Kifel would untangle himself from the unconscious crinos, panting sharply through his nose somewhat as he glanced around. "Was anyone else hurt?"
May 21 20:04:30 *	[11]Avalanche_C walks back to the area looking displeased.
May 21 20:04:56 *	SNB rushes down the tunnel in lupus form, reverting to Homid as he emerges.
May 21 20:05:06 <Kifel>	Shaking his muzzle he headed towards the Caern heart.
May 21 20:05:51 *	[17]Hawthorne_C-5A is breathing. So has that going for him.
May 21 20:05:59 *	You are now known as Hawthorne_C-5A
May 21 20:06:42 *	[11]Avalanche_C looks to SNB. His flattened ears and stiff tense stance revealing alot. He wants to judge this so badly but SNB is the ranking Philodox.
May 21 20:06:57 <SNB>	((SNB's a Galliard))
May 21 20:07:47 <IS-ST>	Two other striders emerge from their dens.  Inara and Sophia.  They make their way over towards the group.  Inara moves and stands by Avalanche.  "I'd like to hear your words before Judgement is passed."
May 21 20:07:57 <[11]Avalanche_C>	(( oh crud...does that mean....))
May 21 20:08:10 *	[11]Avalanche_C looks to Inara.
May 21 20:10:36 <[11]Avalanche_C>	G> Harley is my packmate. He told me of what was transpiring before it happened...I ruined a weapon to rush here and try to protect Harley. Harley warned him. Harely warned him and advised him to walk away. The Bonegnawer did not listen or heed Harley's words. Harley defended himself as is his right. Hawthorne violated Sage's territory. Hawthorne did not respect those beneath him.  Hawthorne
May 21 20:10:36 <[11]Avalanche_C>	violated the Alpha's territory as well.
May 21 20:10:42 *	[11]Avalanche_C looks to Hawthorne.
May 21 20:10:52 *	[11]Avalanche_C is now known as Avalance_C
May 21 20:11:39 *	Malachi looks at SNB and waves him close.  "This one will be judged, and then I expect you to sit on him and make sure he learns how we work, or decides to leave."
May 21 20:12:00 *	Avalance_C looks to Inara.
May 21 20:12:04 *	SNB nods.
May 21 20:12:32 <IS-ST>	Inara nods to Avalanche.  "What would the Get do to one who did such?"
May 21 20:13:40 *	Harley-4A is now known as Harley
May 21 20:14:23 <Avalance_C>	G> You wish to know the truth?
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May 21 20:15:14 <IS-ST>	I would expect nothing less from a Philodox, Avalanche's Way.
May 21 20:16:58 <Avalance_C>	G> Strip him of rank. Collar him depriving him of his wolf. Geld him. Sell him. Ration his food. Set him to work for the Sept. He would be able to redeem himself thru the penance of labor. He would have no privledges including breeding or coupling for pleasure.
May 21 20:17:21 <Avalance_C>	G> He has several charges against him not just one.
May 21 20:17:47 <Malachi>	Well, Never let it be said that the Get coddle their charges.
May 21 20:19:30 *	SNB perks a brow, not having the context of what happened.
May 21 20:20:08 <Avalance_C>	He has almost murdered a kin. A valueable and knowledgeable kin. Mate of a garou.
May 21 20:21:01 *	SNB raises the other brow.
May 21 20:21:32 <Avalance_C>	G> These are not light crimes Malachi rhya.
May 21 20:21:48 <Kifel>	"And a member of my tribe." Kifel fumed lightly.
May 21 20:24:29 *	Avalance_C looks to Inara.
May 21 20:26:04 <IS-ST>	She nods and looks to Malachi.  "Well, this is not a Get of Fenris Sept, and we are not about to geld a garou.  He has attacked a Pack Alpha, and without interference he would have killed one of our Kin.  Knowing Harley, he bears some responsability for this, but if the rest of us can control ourselves, then all can.  He is a claith, so there is that small mitigation.  Malachi-Ryha, This is
May 21 20:26:04 <IS-ST>	his first transgression, so he should learn from it.  Learn or be sent away.  He cries like a Jackel about a kinfolk's words, and disegards the law that you have set down and that the nation reveres.  He must be taught respect.
May 21 20:26:43 *	Avalance_C chuffs to inquire.
May 21 20:27:19 *	Malachi nods and leans down to the Bone Gnawer, snapping his finger under his nose and rousing him to awareness.
May 21 20:27:21 <Avalance_C>	G> You only make his voice like a Jackal?
May 21 20:27:42 *	Avalance_C looks to learn from Inara not contesting her word.
May 21 20:27:54 <IS-ST>	That is the start of his punishment, Avalanche's Way.
May 21 20:31:16 *	Avalance_C chuffs and looks to Hawthorne. The anger evident in him but disciplined.
May 21 20:31:30 <SNB>	The continuation being?
May 21 20:34:20 *	Avalance_C glances to SNB
May 21 20:36:35 *	[8]Katherine slips out of the caern heart, carrying a bloody shirt in her hands, only wearing her bra as a top
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May 21 20:49:22 *	Now talking on #IS.Bawn
May 21 20:49:22 *	Topic for #IS.Bawn is: The is the Main IC Channce for the Iron Secrets Werewolf:the Apocalypse game. Please keep OOC chatter to a minium here. The Bawn is the Petrified Forest National park, and this channel covers both the above ground and the cave comples. Current weather can be found here: https://weather.com/weather/today/l/10669:19:US
May 21 20:49:22 *	Topic for #IS.Bawn set by Drake (Mon Feb 26 23:53:31 2018)
May 21 20:49:31 <Avalance_C>	G> Is he awake?
May 21 20:50:03 <Malachi>	He should be.
May 21 20:50:17 *	Hawthorne stirs and eventually is awake.
May 21 20:50:44 <[8]Katherine>	Harley? Yeah
May 21 20:51:41 *	Malachi reaches down and places his hand on his shoulder, cool blue light filling him as the wounds around his throat are healed.  "Stand and hear the Alpha's Judgement."
May 21 20:53:25 *	Hawthorne snarls at the touch, shoving his shoulder forward. He'd rather be hurt. "Judgement? Are you fucking kidding me? Did you not see the second class citizen threatening a Garou? Did you not see him invoke the Alpha's name like he was better then one of us? And yet you'll judge me?"
May 21 20:53:27 *	Kifel glared at Hawthrone as he crossed his arms over his chest, puffing lightly on a cigarette. But he listened to Malachi's judgement.
May 21 20:53:45 <Hawthorne>	Hawthorne's rage was on the rise again. Thumping around him like a heavy coat.
May 21 20:54:12 <[8]Katherine>	call kinfolk a second class citizen again. Please.
May 21 20:54:29 *	[8]Katherine crosses her arms over her chest and does not look at all pleased
May 21 20:54:39 *	Hawthorne looks right at Katherine. "They're Prosperity. Breeding Stock."
May 21 20:54:44 <Hawthorne>	Property *
May 21 20:54:54 <SNB>	What Tribe do you think you're in?
May 21 20:55:06 <Malachi>	I will, As an Elder of the nation.  I will judge one who cannot control his rage, who does not remember that you owe them respect.
May 21 20:55:08 <Kifel>	"kat, let the alpha handle it please." He glanced towards her.
May 21 20:55:23 *	[8]Katherine sets her jaw
May 21 20:55:37 *	JamesBecket (AndChat332@2600:380:bd1e:tgox:wqni:rywl:tzyt:hitl) has joined
May 21 20:55:58 *	JamesBecket strolled out towards the group folding his arms over his chest quietly
May 21 20:56:12 <Hawthorne>	Still waiting on the drop of respect he'll show to me. From the moment I got here. I spoke with respect. and he was CRITICAL of me using a respectful word."
May 21 20:57:05 <Malachi>	The law does say, Respect those beneath ye.  All are of Gaia.  Where is your Respect, Bone Gnawer?
May 21 20:58:40 <Hawthorne>	Don't preach to me about the Litany. It also demands submission to those of higher station. Are we not of higher station? I offered him respect. I offered him a way to apologize in my infinite generosity... and he spat upon it.
May 21 20:58:56 *	JamesBecket glanced at Kat blinking and shaking his head noting the bloodied shirt frowning and approaching her.  "How is he Kat..?"
May 21 20:58:57 *	[8]Katherine is now known as Katherine_
May 21 20:59:39 <Katherine_>	he's fine. Sage is with him last I saw, chastising him. I left to let her
May 21 21:02:17 *	Malachi steps to the fire and thrusts his hand into it, pulling out a handful of ash.  He walks back to Hawthorne and throws it in his face.  "You speak with the poison words of one who does not know their place, and will not learn.  You are not a wolf, but a Jackal.  So let all hear your voice as it sounds in the ear of the Mother.  Maybe Mama Ra
May 21 21:02:17 *	Malachi t will teach you what it means to be respectful."  The Ash swirls around and flows down his throat, twisting and contorting it, making his voice squeal and whine with every syllable.
May 21 21:05:25 *	JamesBecket winced recognizing the rite
May 21 21:05:42 *	Avalance_C looks to Malachai.
May 21 21:05:52 <Avalance_C>	Alpha, may I speak to him?
May 21 21:06:05 <Malachi>	I give you to your elders, that they may teach you the law, My law.  Seriously No Bullshit will speak with my voice in all things to you.  He will take you to the Wrecking Crew, and you will learn how we live, and once you have learned, you will come and make contrition to us for bringing strife into our home.  Now stand there and be silent while I
May 21 21:06:05 <Malachi>	 deal with the other side of this debacle.
May 21 21:06:11 *	Kifel simply glared at this. He recognized it as well. He deserved more for what he did to his tribemate... but what's done was done.
May 21 21:06:52 *	Avalance_C waits for malachi to answer his request.
May 21 21:07:14 *	Malachi shakes his head.  "Not yet, Avalanche's Way."  He throws back his head and howls.  "Harley, Alpha.  I call you to me!"
May 21 21:07:32 <Hawthorne>	H smiles, fittingly enough, like a jackal in the sun. No answer? No reply? No because there was none. If asked if they were equal to a kinfolk, none would admit it. The punishment was all the answer he needed. This was just another way to step on a the rat's tail. With his head held high he accepts the dusting. And closes his lips. He didn't say a single word for the first year of his life. Big fucking deal now.
May 21 21:08:28 *	Avalance_C exhales watching Hawthorne.
May 21 21:09:15 *	JamesBecket stepped over to Katherine and put his arms around her,  watching the avenge quietly.
May 21 21:09:47 *	Harley steps out of the caern heart, arm-in-arm with Sage.
May 21 21:09:55 *	Avalance_C flattens his ears.
May 21 21:10:43 *	Avalance_C swishes his tail impatient to speak and watching Hawthorne.
May 21 21:10:57 *	[Avalance_C] (1345grimre@cdj-63-81.myactv.net): Daniel Deacon
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May 21 21:11:00 *	JamesBecket nodded to Harley and sage
May 21 21:11:15 <Harley>	You're looking for me, Alpha?
May 21 21:11:31 *	Sage steps out with her kin a bit protective near him. She kept her head held high, looking regal with her calm exterior and grace.
May 21 21:11:50 *	Malachi nods to Harley, looking to Inara.  A silent communication passes between them.  He waves the glasswalker Kinfolk over to him.
May 21 21:12:53 *	Harley approaches Malachi.
May 21 21:13:04 <Malachi>	Harley, I have made many allowances for you to aid in your healing, and you have earned your place her with your work and your ideas.  You know this to be true, yes?
May 21 21:13:14 *	Katherine_ reaches over to rest a hand on Avalanche's shoulder
May 21 21:14:01 <Harley>	I do.
May 21 21:14:17 *	Kifel simply watched silently, exhaling smoke through his nose
May 21 21:14:41 *	Avalance_C flares his nostrils catching Katherine's scent. His heavy gaze on Hawthorne.
May 21 21:14:53 <Malachi>	Good, because I do not speak to now as a kinfolk.  I speak to you as a pack alpha in my Sept and my Home.
May 21 21:15:08 *	Harley nods.
May 21 21:17:43 <Malachi>	You are wrong.  I can say it no more simply than that.  You have promoted Strife in my home.  You have spoken of things that do not truely concern you, and most importantly, you have failed to learn from others as you would have them learn from you, and that is the greatest sin I see in your steps.
May 21 21:18:35 *	JamesBecket frowned, but listened to the alpha's words
May 21 21:21:29 *	Avalance_C listens to Malachi.
May 21 21:22:18 <Malachi>	When you became a true alpha of garou and kinfolk, you accepted a higher level of responsibility, and thus, I cannot look away from your part in this, and the garou you provoked is owed his due.  I will not ask you to grovel on your belly as one did, but there must be an acceptance of your part in this and now is the time for you to live up to your
May 21 21:22:18 <Malachi>	 words about wanting to be better.  Punishment brings me no joy, and I would rather celebrate our victory than rule over this.  Will you accept your punishment as a true alpha would?
May 21 21:22:19 <Harley>	Honestly, sir, I disagree.  I was acting as a Ragabash would.  This whole thing started because he got pissed off that I brought up that a lot of Den Parents are teaching as his obviously did, that the Rhya honorific can be used to replace an individual's name.  Which is not how an honorific suffix is used.  He's pissed off because I corrected him in front of you.  And instead of coming in
May 21 21:22:19 <Harley>	here and dealing with it properly, he came in and demanded that I lay on my belly and, to quote him, "Wiggle back and forth like you're about to take it up the tail."
May 21 21:23:56 *	JamesBecket tensed visibly.
May 21 21:23:57 <Hawthorne>	Smiles cutely. It was a good line.
May 21 21:24:26 <JamesBecket>	 And this one sits and smiles about it.... :He frowned at that:
May 21 21:25:19 *	SNB looks at Hawthorne, observing him as one observes something distasteful yet facinating.
May 21 21:26:02 <Avalance_C>	G> Forgive my interuption.....He mocks this punishment. The look on his face betrays his thoughts. He is not contrite Malchai rhya.
May 21 21:26:06 <Malachi>	You may disagree, but it does not change the fact.  Before you were an alpha, I could have made amends for you.  But now, as an alpha, you are to be held to a higher standard.  I have heard your words, and I stand ready to tell you your punishment.  I expect you to accept this as the leader you are.
May 21 21:26:47 <Harley>	No Garou pack Alpha would tolerate that.  And if I am to be held to a higher standard as a Pack Alpha, then so too should I be able to stand strong in the face of such disrespect.  He at no point challenged me.  He simply made demands of me that would force me to bring dishonor to myself and my pack.  Not to mention that what he demanded of me is abusive, and as you know, I would rather die
May 21 21:26:47 <Harley>	than allow myself to be so abused again.
May 21 21:27:35 *	Malachi nods.  "Do you think I will abuse you?"
May 21 21:27:53 *	Avalance_C bares his teeth to Hawthorne providing a clear warning.
May 21 21:28:08 <Harley>	No.  I know that you will not, sir.  But that is exactly what he wished to do.
May 21 21:29:27 *	Hawthorne looks up and stares right at Avalance. Smiling a sweet as pie.
May 21 21:29:30 <Harley>	If I am to be punished, then I deserve to know exactly which action or words I am being punished for, do I not?  Is it correcting him on the proper use of the Rhya honorific?  Is it standing up for myself when he threatened abuse?
May 21 21:30:27 *	Katherine_ rests a hand on Avalanche
May 21 21:31:00 *	Avalance_C displays an overtly agressive facial expression to Hawthorne. Ears flattened, Teeth fully bared and his hackles up. It might just occur to Hawthorne that having this particular garou's undivided attention in this fashion is a bad bad idea.
May 21 21:31:01 <Hawthorne>	Wonders if anyone here is going to mention the Guns he threaten to pull out on him. He'd do it himself but clearly they don't want to hear what he has to say.
May 21 21:32:52 *	Avalance_C growls at Hawthorne in such a deep base tone...people feel it instead of hear it.
May 21 21:33:48 *	Malachi nods.  "You are being punished for bringing strife to my home.  As I would punish any alpha for doing so.  This one, by his actions, challenged you.  You should have accepted and then set the rules, or called for the master of challenges.  I will see an end to this strife."
May 21 21:34:31 *	Harley nods.
May 21 21:35:37 <Harley>	I see.  Very well.  Now that I know how you will be treating me now that I am a Pack Alpha, as one who can actually be involved in a formal Challenge unlike most kinfolk, I see why you have to punish me, and accept it without hesitation.  Thank you for the clarity, Alpha.
May 21 21:36:09 *	Hawthorne is just full of bad ideas on a night like tonight, so he keeps staring at Avalance with dead unmoving eyes. He's been disrespected and insulted, slashed and bitten, and that was just the last hour. He's apparently pissed off the entire Sept and doesn't see much point in trying to be nice anymore. The message was clear. They don't want him here.
May 21 21:37:32 *	JamesBecket looked between his packmates present.
May 21 21:38:09 *	Avalance_C growls at Hawthorne. The lupus born pushing his luck against the white metis.
May 21 21:38:19 <Malachi>	This is my Judgement.  You are to accept his challenge, once his voice is returned to him.  Inara will act as the Master of Challenges.  If you win, then that will be the end of it.  Should you lose, you will find someone who can teach you the Rite of Contrition, and you will perform it to put an end to this once and for all.
May 21 21:38:37 *	JamesBecket raised a hand to Avalanche
May 21 21:38:59 <JamesBecket>	Harley needs to do this himself Avalanche.
May 21 21:39:46 *	Harley nods a bit.
May 21 21:40:33 <Harley>	And if I choose to submit, to accept and admit that I crossed a line in correcting him in front of an Elder.  Would that end this, and allow us all to move forward?
May 21 21:40:41 *	Harley looks to Hawthorne.
May 21 21:40:52 <Hawthorne>	What luck? He was out of that hours ago. H gives Avalance a raised brow and eyes that silently say 'Really?'. But he does, infact turn away. He was only half mortal, there were limits.
May 21 21:41:28 <Hawthorne>	Looks to Harley, shrugging an 'i guess' Did it matter at this point?
May 21 21:41:58 <Sage>	Avalanche. Back off. ::she gives a dead stare and looks to Hawthorne:: Is that acceptable of my kin or not. Speak with your voice. I care not the sound.
May 21 21:42:16 <Malachi>	If you would perform the rite of contrition, I would accept that.
May 21 21:42:21 *	Avalance_C backs off reluctantly.
May 21 21:42:46 *	Avalance_C swishes his tail irritated.
May 21 21:43:06 <Harley>	It would, of course, take me time to learn it, since I have not had any training in the way of rituals, since most kin aren't allowed to learn them.
May 21 21:43:29 <Malachi>	I would perform the ritual for you to see it done.
May 21 21:43:39 <Malachi>	You can learn it later
May 21 21:43:44 *	Avalance_C looks to Malachi
May 21 21:43:52 <Avalance_C>	G> Alpha?
May 21 21:44:02 *	Malachi looks at Avalanche
May 21 21:44:47 <Hawthorne>	H does not speak. He was not accept this punishment, thus will not indulge it's drawbacks. All they have done is silence him before he could speak his mind. To state his case. Meanwhile Harley got more words then an entire Dan Brown novel... No Philodox on earth or else were would find that fair.
May 21 21:45:57 <Avalance_C>	G> I understand with clarity that you wish to end strife here. However, that one * indicating hawthorne * mocks your punishment with smiles. He challenges me even now. Were I a lesser garou I would have killed him just now and considered it a matter of dominance. I petiton you to address this grievance I place at your feet.
May 21 21:46:02 *	Katherine_ looks at Hawthorne
May 21 21:46:11 <Katherine_>	DO YOU ACCEPT OR NOT? You were asked to speak.
May 21 21:46:28 *	Harley holds a hand up to Kat.
May 21 21:46:55 *	JamesBecket glanced to Katherine,  lightly squeezing her shoulder.  "Calm.. yelling right now will only escalate further. "
May 21 21:47:11 *	Avalance_C looks to Hawthorne.
May 21 21:47:25 <Harley>	Chill.  All of you that look to me as your Alpha, chill.  AValanche has a valid point, but just yelling shit won't make things better.
May 21 21:47:46 *	Sage just rolls her eyes so hard and looks to Malachi “can we take this privately if others can’t control themselves?”
May 21 21:48:05 *	Malachi holds up his hand to Avalanche and looks to Hawthorne.  "Speak, Claith.  Will you accept the contrition that is offered to you."
May 21 21:49:46 *	Avalance_C holds at Malachi's raised hand. He looks down submissive to the Alpha.
May 21 21:49:51 <Hawthorne>	Eye rolls at the 'challenges him even now'. Excuse me. Did he not stare and growl at him first? And yet he was the one challenging him? Is this backwards world? Is this a joke? The Garou lowered his head down. He's still staring. If the white one wanted to fight, at least he'd get a warrior's death.
May 21 21:50:52 <Hawthorne>	Does not speak. He will not speak. That was taken away from him and he was given no right to defend himself. He shrugs at Malachi.
May 21 21:51:50 *	Avalance_C waits for Malachi stoic and patient.
May 21 21:52:09 *	Katherine_ crosses her arms again over her chest and just watches Hawthorne
May 21 21:54:47 *	Kifel ashed his cigarette, exhaling softly through his nose as he continued watching and listening.
May 21 22:01:27 *	Avalance_C flicks an ear waiting
May 21 22:03:13 <Sage>	He’s not going to speak. It’s very clear. He wasn’t allowed to speak and defend himself, why should he speak now?
May 21 22:03:36 <Sage>	And with everyone yelling at him and growling at him...it doesn’t make this situation any better.
May 21 22:04:04 <Avalance_C>	G> He smiles as Malachi punishes him.
May 21 22:04:18 <Sage>	This was my -mate- that was mauled and yet I’ve held better composure than the rest of you.
May 21 22:04:34 *	Kifel lightly coughs, not having said a work this entire time.
May 21 22:04:54 <Avalance_C>	G> I have not murdered him in the face yet. I am composed.
May 21 22:05:03 *	Avalance_C blinks to Sage.
May 21 22:05:04 <Sage>	We all come from different backgrounds. All of us. We don’t know -what- type of sept he was raised in.
May 21 22:05:22 *	SNB walks around, giving a glance to Harley, then looks back to Hawthorne.
May 21 22:05:32 *	Sage looks to Avalanche “You growl! You flatten your ears! You silently challenge him.
May 21 22:05:34 <Sage>	“
May 21 22:05:55 *	Harley looks at Sage, and steps away from her.
May 21 22:06:22 <Avalance_C>	G> and he smiles at me. He refuses to answer on the Alpha's command. He shows pride and not is contrite.
May 21 22:06:41 <Avalance_C>	G> I have stayed my claws and fangs. I have spared him.
May 21 22:06:59 <JamesBecket>	Avalanche! Our alpha asked us to back down..
May 21 22:07:03 <Sage>	It is not you choice what happens to him. -You- are not Alpha.
May 21 22:07:07 <JamesBecket>	 I've done nothing to antagonize further.
May 21 22:07:07 <Malachi>	All right!  Enough!
May 21 22:07:32 *	Avalance_C winces when Malachi speaks and takes a step back.
May 21 22:07:36 <Harley>	I had nothing to do with him not getting to plead his case.  His punishment was decided before I even came out here.  And he's mocking the entire sept by refusing to follow Malachi's order to speak.
May 21 22:07:43 *	Harley looks at Malachi and hushes.
May 21 22:08:00 *	Sage just glances to Harley as if she were to say something but stops
May 21 22:08:01 *	JamesBecket nodded quietly to the alpha
May 21 22:08:03 <Malachi>	Seriously, take him out to the Wrecking Crew's Camp.  Maybe he'll find a voice out there.
May 21 22:08:28 *	Avalance_C backs off completely with the Alpha's orders given.
May 21 22:08:43 *	Avalance_C shakes out his fur and moves to the forge.
May 21 22:09:06 *	SNB looks to Hawthorne, seeing if there's a chance he'll follow on his own.
May 21 22:09:36 *	Avalance_C has quit ()
May 21 22:09:37 <Hawthorne>	Takes a direction and just keeps on walking. He isn't sure if it's towards a camp or towards the edge of the Sept.
May 21 22:10:18 *	JamesBecket took a breath and nodded to Malachi at that giving Kat a quick kiss on the cheek and offering her his jacket.
May 21 22:10:34 <SNB>	Locked to Loaded, let's go deal among Gnawers.