Inside the Manson Cult: The Lost Tapes (2018)

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- Yeah, every girl ought to
have a daddy like Charlie.

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Should--deserves to have
a daddy like Charlie.

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male narrator: Charles Manson:

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Hippie guru,

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would-be rock star,

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and,
until his death in 2017,

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the most notorious
prison inmate in America.

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- You can't prove anything.

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Now is the only thing
that's real.

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narrator: Manson
was the leader of a cult

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called The Family.

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narrator: They murdered
nine people,

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including movie actress
Sharon Tate

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in the summer of 1969.

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- It was one of the worst
things I've ever seen.

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There was blood all over her.

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narrator: The murders sent
shockwaves through Hollywood.

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- No one was safe.

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- Entertainers out there
are hiring bodyguards.

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It put the fear of God
in them.

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narrator: The court argued

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that Manson had brainwashed
his followers

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and programmed them to kill.

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- They had no idea that where
Manson was leading them

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was mayhem and murder.

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narrator: But could one man
have this much power?

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And if so, how?

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For the first time,
we can see how.

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Shortly after his arrest,

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Manson gave a group
of young filmmakers

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led by Robert Hendrickson

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exclusive access
inside his cult.

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- Scene one, take two, roll 53.

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narrator: Hidden away
for decades,

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the original footage
has now been found:

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More than 100 hours of film,
and with it

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reels of unheard audio...

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- We've seen Charlie do things
that no human being

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has ever done.
Or no human being has...

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narrator: And dozens of unseen
photographs.

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- No, we've seen miracles.

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- This is dynamite information
to have.

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Where's it been all these
years, all this stuff?

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- Some people
are making a movie.

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narrator: Today, former cult
members can see themselves

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as they once were.

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- Did you ever think
of Sharon Tate's baby?

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-I didn't know her.

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I never met her.

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Anybody watching this
would think I was a monster.

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narrator: Never-before-seen
interviews

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give us a firsthand view
of the programming process.

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- I am Charlie.

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And if he dies, I die.

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narrator: And long-forgotten
film

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provides shocking revelations

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about how Manson's
followers lived,

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loved...

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And ultimately,

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how they were turned from
regular, peace-loving kids

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into brutal and brainwashed
killers.

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-I didn't want to believe
the things I heard.

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- I'm ready to die.

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- I didn't want to believe
the things I saw.

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- They're persecuting
what they can't stand

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to look at in themselves:

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The truth.

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- When somebody
needs to be killed...

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There's no wrong.
You do it.

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- Bam.

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- And you kill whoever
gets in your way.

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This is us.

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- ♪ Your home is where
you're happy ♪

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♪ It's not where
you're not free ♪

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narrator: In the hills
above Hollywood, California,

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lives a small band
of young men and women

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about two dozen in all.

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They share a love of music
and each other.

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They call themselves
the Family.

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- Roll 136.

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- All we ever did amounted to

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smoking grass

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and taking acid

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and making love
as much as we could.

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If we weren't doing that,
we was leading up to it.

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If we weren't leading up
to it, we was doing that.

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narrator: The group's leader
is a career criminal

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with a rap sheet
containing multiple offenses

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from forgery to armed robbery:

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32-year-old Charles Manson.

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Manson never knew his father.

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His mother was a petty thief

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who was in and out of jail.

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And Manson followed
in her footsteps.

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His latest sentence:
a seven-year stretch

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for forgery
and breaking parole.

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He's released on March 21,
1967.

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He heads to California...

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and the Summer of Love.

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- My name's Peter Coyote.

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I'm the last ancient hippie,

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and I was a serious player
in the counterculture.

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It was wonderful
to wake up in the morning.

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You could get food,
friendship,

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whatever you needed.

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People of like minds
got together

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and they formed
extended families.

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- My name is Aesop Aquarian.

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There was a lot of talk about
going to the Summer of Love

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and we did love each other
in those days.

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We believed in peace and love

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and that things
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- Charlie saw
the hippie movement

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and saw the power in it;

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saw the power behind
the young people;

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could see a huge
revolution starting.

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And there really is
a revolution.

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And Charlie wanted
to take this power

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and turn it into
his own game.

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- When Charlie
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he had spent over half
of his life in jail.

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So he had no family.

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For him, recruiting followers

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was creating the family
that he never had.

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narrator: Guitar in hand,

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Manson sets up
at street corners

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and starts playing.

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Gradually,
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- ♪ People say
that I'm no good ♪

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- In the late '60s,
music led kids

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off the suburban sidewalks

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to hear the sounds
of authentic voices

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for whom the American dream
didn't work.

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- The counterculture
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young people
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What did it mean
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in a capitalistic society?

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Young people had been fed
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American exceptionalism

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and American democracy
that was untrue.

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♪

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narrator: And Manson

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knew just how
to get the kids to listen.

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- My name is John Douglas.

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I'm with the FBI,
former criminal profiler--

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developed criminal profiling--

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and I interviewed
Charles Manson

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as part of the serial murderer
research project.

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When Charles was in prison,

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he was fascinated
by the pimps.

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Because these pimps didn't
look anything extraordinary.

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So how are you able to,
you know, master,

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have this control,
you know, over others?

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These pimps told him
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They look like a broken wing.

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A broken wing meaning that

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something was wrong.

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There was this rejection.

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So Manson had the ability

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to approach these so-called
broken wings

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and talk to them.

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- My name is Dianne Lake.

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I was one of the first
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of the Manson Family.

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I was 14 when I met Charlie.

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♪ Say a little prayer?

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- He expressed his love
and adoration for me.

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It was a high.
It was magic.

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It was an incredible

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upwelling of love, and,
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My mom and dad were not
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hugging variety.
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And I think that
I needed to feel that.

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-♪ As long as you've got
love in your heart ♪

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- Charlie invited me to be
a part of their family.

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It was what I was looking for.

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narrator: By the spring
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Manson has gathered
half a dozen girls.

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The lost tapes
show how he uses them

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to lure men.

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- Action.

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What is your name?
- Paul Watkins.

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- How did you get in?

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- How did I get in
to The Family?

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- Yes.

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- I was walking through
Topanga Canyon

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and it was starting
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I needed a place to sleep.

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And there was
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in the clearing in the woods.

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Who came to the door was

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one of the prettiest girls
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- I go answer the door

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and it's Paul.

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- Big puff of marijuana smoke
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And that smelled good to me.

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- Charlie told me,

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"I want you to reel him in."

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- There was 15 people
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And it was a big room that
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and a little table
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Charlie, he was playing
the guitar.

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He laid all his girls
out in front of me

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and says, "They're yours.

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What are you gonna
do with them?"

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And uh...

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I was flattered.

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- Nancy and I made him
feel welcome

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and had sex with him.

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- I agreed that I would stay
with them for the summer

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'cause he said he needed
some help;

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he was all alone with them

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and he couldn't handle them
all by his own,

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couldn't keep them satisfied.

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Charlie said that The Family
was my family forever.

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♪

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narrator: The lost tapes
show how Manson

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broke down The Family
members' inhibitions

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and used sex
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but also to control them.

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- We all had to go through
lots and lots of changes.

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All the guys had to get over
all their homosexual things

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by doing everything that you
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doing with guys.
And all the girls had to do

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everything they could
possibly think of doing

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with girls.

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- He would have them talk
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Was there anything, sexually,

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that went on that you feel
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or embarrassed by?

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By doing that
they just felt better

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about themselves,

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although he had, now, all
the intelligence information

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on them, and then would know

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what kind of buttons to push.

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narrator: Manson's technique
is finding the thing

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each of his followers
really feels they need

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and giving it to them.

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- He'd mirror people.

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He did that
the very first day with me.

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He just mirrored me.

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And he told me, "You're me.

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We're the same."

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He knew people.
He knew human nature.

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So he made me feel
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meant to be.

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And he made me feel important.

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- People would say,

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"Well, how come
you didn't leave?"

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I stayed with
Charlie because

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Charlie captured my heart.

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And like heroin addicts the
first time they take heroin,

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I was addicted to that initial

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feeling of love and adoration
and acceptance.

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I wanted that again
and again and again.

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narrator: As he gathers
his followers around him,

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Manson pursues an idea
first dreamt about

262
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during his years in prison:

263
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A career in music.

264
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♪

265
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He sends his girls
out into the streets,

266
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hoping to meet people with
connections to the business.

267
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- On some level,
Manson's entrance

268
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into the LA music scene is
rooted in a chance encounter.

269
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Two of the women in The Family
happen to meet

270
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Dennis Wilson
of the Beach Boys,

271
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one of the central figures
of rock music

272
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in Los Angeles
in the late 1960s.

273
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- Wilson takes the girls home.

274
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And shortly afterwards,
Manson follows.

275
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- I was at Dennis Wilson's
house.

276
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It astounded me at that time

277
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because I'd never seen
a place like that.

278
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It was like a fairy tale.

279
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And Charlie comes
dancing out of the house,

280
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and I said, "Wow."

281
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♪

282
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- There's no other way
to put it.

283
00:13:41,890 --> 00:13:45,686
Dennis Wilson falls in love
with Charles Manson

284
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and falls in love
with the women.

285
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- Both Charlie and Dennis,
I think that

286
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there was a mutual admiration

287
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going on between them.

288
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They were both wild,
liked women,

289
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liked music.

290
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Dennis was very much impressed

291
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with the fact that Charlie
could get his girls

292
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to participate.

293
00:14:16,131 --> 00:14:19,065
narrator: They party.
They hang out.

294
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They even record together.

295
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On one occasion,
captured in the lost tapes,

296
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Manson gives his home-spun
philosophy on life.

297
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- The way out of a room

298
00:14:37,117 --> 00:14:39,637
is not through the door,
partner.

299
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Because then you just go into
another room

300
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which leads into another room,

301
00:14:42,674 --> 00:14:44,918
which leads into a bigger room

302
00:14:44,953 --> 00:14:48,163
and you're still inside
your cage, man.

303
00:14:48,197 --> 00:14:50,855
- Dennis was kind of
looking for

304
00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:54,514
some kind of spiritual
guidance, and I think that

305
00:14:54,548 --> 00:14:57,241
you know, Charlie kind of
fit the bill.

306
00:14:57,275 --> 00:14:58,932
- That's not the way out.
The way out is

307
00:14:58,967 --> 00:15:00,451
to give it all up
and love every bit of it

308
00:15:00,485 --> 00:15:02,004
as being perfect.

309
00:15:04,696 --> 00:15:07,458
- Manson couldn't have
scripted it better.

310
00:15:07,492 --> 00:15:09,770
Wilson introduces him
to his good friend

311
00:15:09,805 --> 00:15:11,669
Terry Melcher,

312
00:15:11,703 --> 00:15:13,257
one of the hottest
rock-and-roll producers

313
00:15:13,291 --> 00:15:15,569
in America.

314
00:15:15,604 --> 00:15:19,056
- He's the music producer
who has produced The Byrds,

315
00:15:19,090 --> 00:15:21,575
and Paul Revere
and the Raiders.

316
00:15:21,610 --> 00:15:23,853
He's got a number of hits
behind him.

317
00:15:23,888 --> 00:15:25,683
narrator: Melcher has it all:

318
00:15:25,717 --> 00:15:27,961
a superstar mom in Doris Day,

319
00:15:27,996 --> 00:15:31,654
a superstar girlfriend
in Candice Bergen.

320
00:15:31,689 --> 00:15:33,725
And at the time, he even rents

321
00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,728
a superstar's mansion
in Beverly Hills

322
00:15:36,763 --> 00:15:39,317
with an address
Charlie and the world

323
00:15:39,352 --> 00:15:41,181
will never forget:

324
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10050 Cielo Drive.

325
00:15:46,635 --> 00:15:50,018
Coming up on "Inside
the Manson Cult"...

326
00:15:50,052 --> 00:15:52,779
- Anyone in that house
on Cielo Drive...

327
00:15:52,813 --> 00:15:54,298
- On Cielo Drive, over.

328
00:15:54,332 --> 00:15:55,402
- Was going to die that night.

329
00:15:55,437 --> 00:15:57,577
They were all going to die.

330
00:15:57,611 --> 00:15:59,130
narrator: The real
inside story

331
00:15:59,165 --> 00:16:02,099
of America's
most shocking cult.

332
00:16:05,136 --> 00:16:08,381
- It was just pandemonium
in Los Angeles.

333
00:16:10,141 --> 00:16:12,972
- It was terrifying,
the idea of

334
00:16:13,006 --> 00:16:15,215
testifying against them.

335
00:16:15,250 --> 00:16:16,527
- He's programming us.

336
00:16:16,561 --> 00:16:19,323
-We are sneaking in
a county jail.

337
00:16:19,357 --> 00:16:23,154
- He's telling us
to break him out.

338
00:16:31,818 --> 00:16:33,164
male narrator: Hidden
and forgotten

339
00:16:33,199 --> 00:16:34,994
for more than 40 years,

340
00:16:35,028 --> 00:16:38,445
the lost tapes take us
inside the Manson cult

341
00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,792
and show how Charles Manson

342
00:16:40,827 --> 00:16:43,071
turns a group
of hippie runaways

343
00:16:43,105 --> 00:16:45,107
into brainwashed zombies,

344
00:16:45,142 --> 00:16:47,144
some capable of mass murder.

345
00:16:51,079 --> 00:16:54,013
narrator: It is spring
of 1968.

346
00:16:54,047 --> 00:16:57,844
The whole world
is rock-and-roll crazy.

347
00:16:57,878 --> 00:16:59,984
- In that era, music's
a talking newspaper.

348
00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:03,263
Music is a way that young
people were processing

349
00:17:03,298 --> 00:17:04,609
the conflicts that were
all around them

350
00:17:04,644 --> 00:17:05,748
in the culture.

351
00:17:05,783 --> 00:17:07,060
It wasn't a secret code.

352
00:17:07,095 --> 00:17:09,062
It was another language,

353
00:17:09,097 --> 00:17:10,270
and it was a language that

354
00:17:10,305 --> 00:17:12,169
thousands and thousands
of young Americans

355
00:17:12,203 --> 00:17:14,516
spoke fluently.

356
00:17:14,550 --> 00:17:17,312
narrator: Manson speaks
the language too,

357
00:17:17,346 --> 00:17:20,832
and fame would bring him
the widest possible audience

358
00:17:20,867 --> 00:17:22,593
for his ideas.

359
00:17:22,627 --> 00:17:25,113
He's living with
California music legend

360
00:17:25,147 --> 00:17:26,562
Dennis Wilson,

361
00:17:26,597 --> 00:17:28,461
drummer of the Beach Boys.

362
00:17:28,495 --> 00:17:31,705
He knows the power
rock stardom can bring.

363
00:17:31,740 --> 00:17:35,261
Now he gets a taste
for the life.

364
00:17:35,295 --> 00:17:37,021
- Charlie evolved.

365
00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:39,748
He didn't want money or fame,

366
00:17:39,782 --> 00:17:41,405
because he never had
money or fame.

367
00:17:41,439 --> 00:17:44,408
But then when he sees
Dennis Wilson,

368
00:17:44,442 --> 00:17:46,444
people are fawning over him,

369
00:17:46,479 --> 00:17:47,928
he's got this beautiful house.

370
00:17:47,963 --> 00:17:49,171
And Charlie thought,

371
00:17:49,206 --> 00:17:51,967
"Hey, this is something
I want."

372
00:17:52,001 --> 00:17:53,831
narrator: Wilson
hooks Manson up

373
00:17:53,865 --> 00:17:57,731
with top Hollywood
music producer Terry Melcher.

374
00:17:57,766 --> 00:18:01,597
Melcher is rock-and-roll
royalty.

375
00:18:01,632 --> 00:18:04,255
- ♪ Just come
and say you love me ♪

376
00:18:04,290 --> 00:18:06,637
- Manson thought Melcher
was there to audition him

377
00:18:06,671 --> 00:18:09,674
for a record contract.

378
00:18:09,709 --> 00:18:11,849
- I think Charlie was
very nervous,

379
00:18:11,883 --> 00:18:14,058
but I don't think he wanted
to show that.

380
00:18:14,093 --> 00:18:17,234
- ♪ Come on and look at me

381
00:18:17,268 --> 00:18:19,132
narrator: Melcher
holds the keys

382
00:18:19,167 --> 00:18:22,101
to Manson's musical dreams.

383
00:18:22,135 --> 00:18:24,586
But a sound recording
from the lost tapes

384
00:18:24,620 --> 00:18:27,727
reveals what Melcher thinks
of Manson's music.

385
00:18:45,883 --> 00:18:48,541
-When Charlie was rejected
by Terry Melcher

386
00:18:48,575 --> 00:18:50,059
and the music industry,

387
00:18:50,094 --> 00:18:51,958
it festered with Charlie.

388
00:18:51,992 --> 00:18:53,304
It's something he focused on

389
00:18:53,339 --> 00:18:54,443
and fixated on

390
00:18:54,478 --> 00:18:56,100
for a very long time
afterwards.

391
00:18:58,206 --> 00:19:00,863
- He talked about all these
Hollywood people.

392
00:19:03,383 --> 00:19:04,867
"They're all liars."

393
00:19:06,973 --> 00:19:09,872
narrator: Manson has had it
with show business

394
00:19:09,907 --> 00:19:12,254
and the people in it.

395
00:19:12,289 --> 00:19:15,257
It marks a turning point
in the Manson story.

396
00:19:15,292 --> 00:19:21,470
From now on,
Hollywood is the enemy.

397
00:19:21,505 --> 00:19:23,714
Their dreams dashed,
The Family pack up

398
00:19:23,748 --> 00:19:25,371
and hit the road.

399
00:19:28,408 --> 00:19:29,789
♪

400
00:19:29,823 --> 00:19:31,411
They settle at a horse ranch

401
00:19:31,446 --> 00:19:34,242
around 30 miles north
of Los Angeles.

402
00:19:34,276 --> 00:19:37,314
♪

403
00:19:37,348 --> 00:19:39,212
- Spahn Ranch was private.

404
00:19:39,247 --> 00:19:41,525
You know, it had that
interesting little flair

405
00:19:41,559 --> 00:19:43,112
because it's been in a lot
of Western movies

406
00:19:43,147 --> 00:19:46,495
but there also was, like,
a façade of a saloon

407
00:19:46,530 --> 00:19:49,084
and, you know,
they rented horses

408
00:19:49,118 --> 00:19:51,259
for horseback riding.

409
00:19:51,293 --> 00:19:54,641
- Spahn Ranch
sat on old Highway 70.

410
00:19:54,676 --> 00:19:57,575
It was a place...

411
00:19:57,610 --> 00:20:00,785
Yeah, it had its own magic.

412
00:20:00,820 --> 00:20:03,995
My job was looking after
horses and the cowboys,

413
00:20:04,030 --> 00:20:07,206
the people that worked on
Spahn's Ranch.

414
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,485
A place like that
isn't actually a job.

415
00:20:10,519 --> 00:20:12,314
It's a way of living.

416
00:20:12,349 --> 00:20:16,318
narrator: A way of living
that is about to change.

417
00:20:16,353 --> 00:20:19,425
- In comes this little guy
who bangs through the door

418
00:20:19,459 --> 00:20:21,392
like he thought he was God,

419
00:20:21,427 --> 00:20:25,293
and he screamed at us,
"I'm Charles Manson!"

420
00:20:25,327 --> 00:20:26,708
And I was like, "I don't give
a hell who you are,

421
00:20:26,742 --> 00:20:28,951
Get the hell out of my house!"

422
00:20:28,986 --> 00:20:31,264
narrator: But it isn't
Windy's ranch.

423
00:20:31,299 --> 00:20:34,923
It belongs to 80-year-old
George Spahn.

424
00:20:34,957 --> 00:20:37,408
And Manson
makes a deal with him.

425
00:20:37,443 --> 00:20:40,135
The Family can stay
free of charge

426
00:20:40,169 --> 00:20:42,758
if the girls help out.

427
00:20:42,793 --> 00:20:45,899
- We helped out
renting the horses,

428
00:20:45,934 --> 00:20:50,594
shoveling horse poop.

429
00:20:50,628 --> 00:20:53,079
- Charles Manson
took two of the girls

430
00:20:53,113 --> 00:20:59,050
and he assigned them to
keep George Spahn happy...

431
00:20:59,085 --> 00:21:01,777
in any way they could.

432
00:21:01,812 --> 00:21:04,642
And they did.

433
00:21:04,677 --> 00:21:05,954
narrator: Manson's commune

434
00:21:05,988 --> 00:21:09,820
attracts more and more
followers,

435
00:21:09,854 --> 00:21:13,444
including 25-year-old
musician Catherine Share,

436
00:21:13,479 --> 00:21:17,448
nicknamed Gypsy.

437
00:21:17,483 --> 00:21:18,484
- To me, it was beautiful.

438
00:21:18,518 --> 00:21:20,209
I didn't see the dust.

439
00:21:20,244 --> 00:21:22,695
I just saw the quaintness
of it.

440
00:21:22,729 --> 00:21:26,457
And it just looked
almost dreamlike to me.

441
00:21:26,492 --> 00:21:29,115
I was told by
one of the girls that

442
00:21:29,149 --> 00:21:30,806
everybody picked new names,

443
00:21:30,841 --> 00:21:32,532
and I could pick whatever
name I wanted,

444
00:21:32,567 --> 00:21:39,298
and I said, "Oh, okay,
then I'll call myself Gypsy."

445
00:21:39,332 --> 00:21:41,921
- We didn't need food.

446
00:21:41,955 --> 00:21:44,337
Charlie showed us how to
get food out of the dumpsters

447
00:21:44,372 --> 00:21:46,512
at the back
of the grocery stores.

448
00:21:46,546 --> 00:21:47,858
- You wouldn't believe
what we got

449
00:21:47,892 --> 00:21:49,100
out of the garbage cans today.

450
00:21:49,135 --> 00:21:50,999
We got a whole watermelon,

451
00:21:51,033 --> 00:21:55,831
six boxes of bananas,
four boxes of oranges, um...

452
00:21:55,866 --> 00:21:59,179
- Don't forget the artichokes.
- Artichokes...

453
00:21:59,214 --> 00:22:01,458
- We'd wash it off
and make fruit salads.

454
00:22:01,492 --> 00:22:04,288
We ate very well, actually.

455
00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:06,325
Playing music and

456
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,293
making love and getting to
know everyone...

457
00:22:09,328 --> 00:22:11,847
It was quite ideal
for quite a long time.

458
00:22:13,504 --> 00:22:16,852
But beneath the surface
there was a monster

459
00:22:16,887 --> 00:22:19,027
that was lurking.

460
00:22:21,478 --> 00:22:24,273
narrator: The lost tapes
reveal the tightening grip

461
00:22:24,308 --> 00:22:28,105
Manson has
on his followers' minds.

462
00:22:28,139 --> 00:22:29,934
- I am Charlie.

463
00:22:29,969 --> 00:22:31,764
And if he dies, I die.

464
00:22:31,798 --> 00:22:33,317
- You said you
are Charlie?

465
00:22:33,352 --> 00:22:34,939
- I gave up my personality

466
00:22:34,974 --> 00:22:38,046
and become what he
showed me I can be.

467
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,323
- And that is what?

468
00:22:39,358 --> 00:22:41,705
- Total love.

469
00:22:41,739 --> 00:22:43,603
- So in this clip we can see

470
00:22:43,638 --> 00:22:45,985
more about the mindset
of Manson's followers;

471
00:22:46,019 --> 00:22:49,540
that, in essence, they had
eliminated their identities.

472
00:22:49,575 --> 00:22:51,197
They have nothing else
to go upon

473
00:22:51,231 --> 00:22:52,612
except what Charlie
had provided,

474
00:22:52,647 --> 00:22:55,270
and this instills this idea
of groupthink,

475
00:22:55,304 --> 00:23:00,655
where all they know
is the benefit of the group.

476
00:23:00,689 --> 00:23:02,657
- We didn't talk about
our inner feelings

477
00:23:02,691 --> 00:23:05,625
or emotions because we weren't
supposed to have any.

478
00:23:05,660 --> 00:23:10,250
It was one mind
with a lot of hands.

479
00:23:10,285 --> 00:23:12,218
And there was no discussing it.

480
00:23:13,702 --> 00:23:16,395
narrator: Somehow The Family
seemed to believe

481
00:23:16,429 --> 00:23:19,777
they're actually living the
dream Manson had sold them.

482
00:23:19,812 --> 00:23:23,263
But those outsiders
close enough to witness

483
00:23:23,298 --> 00:23:26,163
see something very different.

484
00:23:26,197 --> 00:23:30,547
- Manson had a bunch
of ragtag...

485
00:23:30,581 --> 00:23:32,376
dirty little girls.

486
00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:34,516
They were kind of pathetic.

487
00:23:34,551 --> 00:23:36,967
They sure were strange.

488
00:23:37,001 --> 00:23:40,142
The men all carried knives.

489
00:23:40,177 --> 00:23:41,420
When I went up there,

490
00:23:41,454 --> 00:23:44,043
I always carried a gun.

491
00:23:44,077 --> 00:23:45,493
narrator: Coming up,

492
00:23:45,527 --> 00:23:48,530
the lost tapes reveal
how Manson takes his cult

493
00:23:48,565 --> 00:23:52,120
a step closer to killing.

494
00:23:52,154 --> 00:23:54,225
- Everybody just went
stark raving mad,

495
00:23:54,260 --> 00:23:57,263
I mean, just completely crazy.

496
00:23:57,297 --> 00:23:59,438
narrator: And startling
recordings

497
00:23:59,472 --> 00:24:01,578
show that he is
bending their minds

498
00:24:01,612 --> 00:24:05,133
to believe he is God.

499
00:24:05,167 --> 00:24:07,860
- We've seen Charlie do things
that no human being

500
00:24:07,894 --> 00:24:08,964
has ever done.

501
00:24:08,999 --> 00:24:11,311
We've seen miracles.

502
00:24:21,183 --> 00:24:23,910
male narrator: It is
the summer of 1968.

503
00:24:23,945 --> 00:24:27,604
Charles Manson, wannabe
musician and ex-con,

504
00:24:27,638 --> 00:24:30,503
has established a commune
on a run-down ranch

505
00:24:30,538 --> 00:24:34,265
30 miles outside
of Los Angeles...

506
00:24:36,095 --> 00:24:40,409
And he's turning it
from commune to cult.

507
00:24:40,444 --> 00:24:42,101
- Every now and then,

508
00:24:42,135 --> 00:24:43,965
them girls would ask me

509
00:24:43,999 --> 00:24:48,176
why I didn't throw away my bras

510
00:24:48,210 --> 00:24:51,455
and run like them half-naked
around the ranch.

511
00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:54,458
Didn't I feel like
I should be free?

512
00:24:54,493 --> 00:24:59,532
I said, "You're not free.
You're slaves."

513
00:24:59,567 --> 00:25:02,777
narrator: Along with sex,
music, and mind-control,

514
00:25:02,811 --> 00:25:05,089
Manson throws
one more ingredient

515
00:25:05,124 --> 00:25:08,127
into his cult-creating
cocktail:

516
00:25:08,161 --> 00:25:09,784
isolation.

517
00:25:09,818 --> 00:25:13,097
At the ranch there are no
calendars or clocks;

518
00:25:13,132 --> 00:25:15,341
no magazines or newspapers.

519
00:25:15,375 --> 00:25:18,447
Manson's word
is the only word.

520
00:25:18,482 --> 00:25:22,797
- We were totally reliant
on Charlie's idea

521
00:25:22,831 --> 00:25:27,008
of what our family
should be doing.

522
00:25:30,045 --> 00:25:33,290
♪

523
00:25:33,324 --> 00:25:35,982
- The isolation
that Manson imposed

524
00:25:36,017 --> 00:25:39,572
upon his followers by taking
them out into the Ranch

525
00:25:39,607 --> 00:25:41,194
was pivotal.

526
00:25:41,229 --> 00:25:43,334
In that environment,
he controlled

527
00:25:43,369 --> 00:25:44,612
everything they saw,

528
00:25:44,646 --> 00:25:46,268
everything they heard.

529
00:25:46,303 --> 00:25:50,859
He could create
an absolute bubble.

530
00:25:50,894 --> 00:25:54,449
- In hindsight, it was the
perfect breeding ground

531
00:25:54,483 --> 00:25:58,073
for his philosophy to grow

532
00:25:58,108 --> 00:26:01,801
and our commitment to him

533
00:26:01,836 --> 00:26:03,562
to deepen.

534
00:26:06,634 --> 00:26:09,464
narrator: The lost tapes
contain a unique record

535
00:26:09,498 --> 00:26:13,192
of Manson's preaching.

536
00:26:13,226 --> 00:26:15,090
- You're born with
a survival instinct

537
00:26:15,125 --> 00:26:17,127
to be selfish.

538
00:26:17,161 --> 00:26:19,198
So the first thing that
happens, man,

539
00:26:19,232 --> 00:26:20,682
is they start giving you
their thoughts

540
00:26:20,717 --> 00:26:23,271
and making things out of you
that they want out of.

541
00:26:23,305 --> 00:26:24,686
And then by the time
you reach 30,

542
00:26:24,721 --> 00:26:27,309
you're exactly what they want.

543
00:26:27,344 --> 00:26:29,139
You're a free soul
standing in a cage

544
00:26:29,173 --> 00:26:31,072
who has to die
because he was taught.

545
00:26:31,106 --> 00:26:33,419
Yeah.

546
00:26:35,248 --> 00:26:37,803
- We would listen

547
00:26:37,837 --> 00:26:39,805
to everything he had to say.

548
00:26:39,839 --> 00:26:42,152
We never joined in,

549
00:26:42,186 --> 00:26:43,947
commented,

550
00:26:43,981 --> 00:26:46,225
disagreed.

551
00:26:46,259 --> 00:26:48,123
He would seem to just
answer your questions

552
00:26:48,158 --> 00:26:51,540
before you had any.

553
00:26:51,575 --> 00:26:55,683
narrator: Manson's Family
is now about 30 strong.

554
00:26:55,717 --> 00:26:58,099
Some have been with him
more than a year.

555
00:26:58,133 --> 00:27:00,032
He has bent them to his will

556
00:27:00,066 --> 00:27:04,968
with sex, isolation,
and domination.

557
00:27:05,002 --> 00:27:10,801
And the lost tapes show
one last vital ingredient.

558
00:27:10,836 --> 00:27:13,079
- We took things
like belladonna

559
00:27:13,114 --> 00:27:15,323
and smoked hashish a lot

560
00:27:15,357 --> 00:27:18,809
and smoked marijuana
all the time, and...

561
00:27:18,844 --> 00:27:21,156
and psilocybin and mescaline...

562
00:27:21,191 --> 00:27:22,951
When I was with Charlie we took

563
00:27:22,986 --> 00:27:26,092
anywhere between
30 and 40 trips

564
00:27:26,127 --> 00:27:27,784
on acid alone.

565
00:27:30,683 --> 00:27:31,995
♪

566
00:27:32,029 --> 00:27:33,824
Everybody just went
stark raving mad.

567
00:27:33,859 --> 00:27:36,758
I mean, just completely crazy.

568
00:27:36,793 --> 00:27:39,209
- People are jumping in and out
of the fireplace,

569
00:27:39,243 --> 00:27:40,866
flying through windows,

570
00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:42,315
hitting other people
in the face.

571
00:27:42,350 --> 00:27:45,146
- Arms and legs flying
in every directions

572
00:27:45,180 --> 00:27:46,595
and people screaming,

573
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:50,427
"Charlie! Charlie!"

574
00:27:50,461 --> 00:27:53,050
- ♪ One too many trips

575
00:27:53,085 --> 00:27:55,915
♪ To the moon and back

576
00:27:55,950 --> 00:27:58,504
♪ Feel like I'm shot through

577
00:27:58,538 --> 00:28:01,749
♪ From green to black

578
00:28:01,783 --> 00:28:04,234
♪ Had so many highs

579
00:28:04,268 --> 00:28:06,926
- The LSD was fun.

580
00:28:06,961 --> 00:28:08,997
Everything became
more animated,

581
00:28:09,032 --> 00:28:11,275
the songs, you know, the words,

582
00:28:11,310 --> 00:28:13,381
I felt totally disconnected

583
00:28:13,415 --> 00:28:16,487
from reality.

584
00:28:16,522 --> 00:28:23,460
narrator: But not everybody
in the cult is high.

585
00:28:23,494 --> 00:28:25,289
- Manson was smart enough
to know

586
00:28:25,324 --> 00:28:29,500
how to dose out LSD.

587
00:28:29,535 --> 00:28:31,295
I've interviewed Manson
three times.

588
00:28:31,330 --> 00:28:33,919
He told us in the interview
at San Quentin

589
00:28:33,953 --> 00:28:36,680
he would take drugs,
but not that much.

590
00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:39,441
But what about your flock?

591
00:28:39,476 --> 00:28:40,719
"I gave them the
full dosage of it."

592
00:28:40,753 --> 00:28:42,168
You know, "Why?"

593
00:28:42,203 --> 00:28:44,792
"Because I felt I could have
more of an impact

594
00:28:44,826 --> 00:28:47,449
over them."

595
00:28:47,484 --> 00:28:49,244
- The shadow side
of psychedelics

596
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:52,903
is that you're nakedly innocent
and vulnerable.

597
00:28:52,938 --> 00:28:56,907
And someone can weasel their
way inside your mind

598
00:28:56,942 --> 00:29:01,084
and alter your perspective.

599
00:29:01,118 --> 00:29:03,396
narrator: With The Family
drugged and under his spell,

600
00:29:03,431 --> 00:29:09,575
Manson takes his power
to a whole nother level.

601
00:29:09,609 --> 00:29:12,302
-Charlie never just said
he was Jesus Christ,

602
00:29:12,336 --> 00:29:14,787
but then he always said it.

603
00:29:14,822 --> 00:29:16,099
He said it in every other way

604
00:29:16,133 --> 00:29:17,652
except for just coming
flat-out and saying

605
00:29:17,686 --> 00:29:18,998
"I am Jesus Christ."

606
00:29:19,033 --> 00:29:22,346
- He said that 2,000 years ago
he'd hung on a cross

607
00:29:22,381 --> 00:29:23,831
and died for everyone's sins,

608
00:29:23,865 --> 00:29:26,074
and it didn't do a
bit of good,

609
00:29:26,109 --> 00:29:27,558
so now he's up again.

610
00:29:29,629 --> 00:29:32,598
- He started using
subliminal messages

611
00:29:32,632 --> 00:29:35,187
such as, "They won't kill me
this time

612
00:29:35,221 --> 00:29:37,810
because I've already died."

613
00:29:37,845 --> 00:29:40,537
But he'd say it very quickly

614
00:29:40,571 --> 00:29:43,643
with a lot of other things.

615
00:29:43,678 --> 00:29:46,370
- The most extreme form
of grandiosity

616
00:29:46,405 --> 00:29:50,167
and power and narcissism
is to be godlike.

617
00:29:50,202 --> 00:29:51,720
- You look the part.

618
00:29:51,755 --> 00:29:52,825
You got the hair,

619
00:29:52,860 --> 00:29:53,826
you got the beard,

620
00:29:53,861 --> 00:29:55,310
and now you start talking

621
00:29:55,345 --> 00:29:58,555
and it's very,
very convincing.

622
00:29:58,589 --> 00:29:59,625
Before you know it,

623
00:29:59,659 --> 00:30:00,971
you're Jesus.

624
00:30:01,006 --> 00:30:02,076
You're Christ.

625
00:30:04,733 --> 00:30:06,977
- It looked to me like he was

626
00:30:07,012 --> 00:30:09,117
hanging on the cross and...

627
00:30:09,152 --> 00:30:13,363
you know, bleeding
from his hands.

628
00:30:13,397 --> 00:30:14,882
It seemed very real.

629
00:30:14,916 --> 00:30:17,677
It seemed like other people
were, you know,

630
00:30:17,712 --> 00:30:19,265
believing it.

631
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:21,267
- We've seen what's possible.

632
00:30:21,302 --> 00:30:24,719
We've seen Charlie do things
that no human being...

633
00:30:24,753 --> 00:30:26,445
has ever done.

634
00:30:26,479 --> 00:30:29,655
Or no human being has revealed
that he could do these things.

635
00:30:29,689 --> 00:30:32,796
No, we've seen miracles.

636
00:30:32,831 --> 00:30:35,316
- He often talked about

637
00:30:35,350 --> 00:30:38,250
the significance of his name,
Man-son.

638
00:30:38,284 --> 00:30:40,942
That he was Man's Son.

639
00:30:40,977 --> 00:30:43,289
The Son of Man.

640
00:30:43,324 --> 00:30:47,224
- We saw him bring
a bird back to life.

641
00:30:47,259 --> 00:30:49,157
We know that
anything's possible.

642
00:30:51,884 --> 00:30:55,646
narrator: It's taken two years
of sex, mind-control,

643
00:30:55,681 --> 00:30:57,648
drugs, and domination

644
00:30:57,683 --> 00:31:00,168
for Manson
to turn regular kids

645
00:31:00,203 --> 00:31:02,412
into a cult of worshippers

646
00:31:02,446 --> 00:31:05,311
ready to obey
his every command.

647
00:31:05,346 --> 00:31:06,968
The question now

648
00:31:07,003 --> 00:31:08,901
is what will he make them do?

649
00:31:08,936 --> 00:31:12,249
- Manson knew
where he wanted to go.

650
00:31:12,284 --> 00:31:15,045
He knew where he was taking
these people.

651
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,599
But they had no clue.

652
00:31:17,634 --> 00:31:19,015
They had no idea that

653
00:31:19,049 --> 00:31:22,466
where Manson was leading them
was mayhem and murder.

654
00:31:23,847 --> 00:31:25,400
narrator: Coming up,

655
00:31:25,435 --> 00:31:28,921
the lost tapes show Manson
as he prepares for war...

656
00:31:28,956 --> 00:31:30,543
- We're always ready.

657
00:31:30,578 --> 00:31:32,131
narrator: And the killings
start.

658
00:31:32,166 --> 00:31:34,064
- He was the commander now

659
00:31:34,099 --> 00:31:36,584
and we were all in boot camp.

660
00:31:36,618 --> 00:31:38,448
narrator: And an incredible
confession

661
00:31:38,482 --> 00:31:40,553
never broadcast before.

662
00:31:40,588 --> 00:31:43,349
- He said that one day

663
00:31:43,384 --> 00:31:44,695
in Beverly Hills,

664
00:31:44,730 --> 00:31:47,112
there would be some
atrocious murders

665
00:31:47,146 --> 00:31:48,630
and people would be
chopped to pieces.

666
00:31:48,665 --> 00:31:51,254
There'd be things written on
the walls in blood.

667
00:32:02,990 --> 00:32:07,822
narrator: June 1969.

668
00:32:07,856 --> 00:32:10,963
Charles Manson is becoming
increasingly obsessed

669
00:32:10,998 --> 00:32:14,484
with one extraordinary vision.

670
00:32:14,518 --> 00:32:17,280
- I think Charles Manson
was looking for some

671
00:32:17,314 --> 00:32:19,661
chaotic Armageddon

672
00:32:19,696 --> 00:32:22,216
into which he could take
even more advantage

673
00:32:22,250 --> 00:32:24,494
of disorder,
and rally people

674
00:32:24,528 --> 00:32:26,220
behind a common threat.

675
00:32:28,636 --> 00:32:31,673
- Charlie used to say
the blacks would

676
00:32:31,708 --> 00:32:33,606
fight against the whites, and

677
00:32:33,641 --> 00:32:34,987
everyone would fight
against everybody else

678
00:32:35,022 --> 00:32:37,265
and that everyone would get
killed except for Charlie

679
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:41,960
and a few blacks who'd be left
to be their servants.

680
00:32:41,994 --> 00:32:44,928
- He became increasingly,
you know,

681
00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:46,585
paranoid about that,

682
00:32:46,619 --> 00:32:49,415
and started preparing us

683
00:32:49,450 --> 00:32:52,280
for that event.

684
00:32:52,315 --> 00:32:55,007
- Manson is imbibing
what's happening

685
00:32:55,042 --> 00:32:56,975
in terms of popular
and political culture

686
00:32:57,009 --> 00:32:59,046
in the United States.

687
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,979
When we think about
the late 1960s,

688
00:33:01,013 --> 00:33:03,740
the Civil Rights movement,
Malcolm X,

689
00:33:03,774 --> 00:33:05,052
the Black Panther party,

690
00:33:05,086 --> 00:33:06,605
the Vietnam War,

691
00:33:06,639 --> 00:33:09,746
there were really hundreds
of civil disturbances.

692
00:33:09,780 --> 00:33:11,541
And there was a real fear

693
00:33:11,575 --> 00:33:15,890
that race war was coming
to the United States.

694
00:33:15,924 --> 00:33:17,271
It seemed as if

695
00:33:17,305 --> 00:33:18,927
the end of the world
was coming.

696
00:33:21,516 --> 00:33:24,071
narrator: Manson dubs his
race war prophecy

697
00:33:24,105 --> 00:33:26,107
"Helter Skelter,"

698
00:33:26,142 --> 00:33:30,042
a name he takes from
a most unlikely source.

699
00:33:30,077 --> 00:33:32,355
Male announcer: You guessed it,
the Beatles!

700
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:34,253
This rock-and-roll group
has taken over

701
00:33:34,288 --> 00:33:36,324
as the kingpins
of musical appreciation

702
00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:37,601
among the younger element.

703
00:33:37,636 --> 00:33:40,087
narrator: In November 1968,

704
00:33:40,121 --> 00:33:44,056
the Beatles release
their "White Album."

705
00:33:44,091 --> 00:33:47,991
Manson becomes obsessed.

706
00:33:48,026 --> 00:33:51,132
- Charlie played it forwards
and backwards

707
00:33:51,167 --> 00:33:52,996
and he played it
over and over again.

708
00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:58,312
He said, "The Beatles are
sending me a message...

709
00:33:58,346 --> 00:34:00,003
That it's time."

710
00:34:00,038 --> 00:34:03,248
Black man was gonna
take over the world.

711
00:34:04,732 --> 00:34:07,804
- There was a song
called "Helter Skelter"...

712
00:34:09,633 --> 00:34:12,740
About people who were at the
bottom of the slide

713
00:34:12,774 --> 00:34:17,365
of society getting back
to the top.

714
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,059
According to Manson,
these were the blacks.

715
00:34:21,093 --> 00:34:22,681
- The Beatles now were
confirming

716
00:34:22,715 --> 00:34:25,097
that it was all true.

717
00:34:29,584 --> 00:34:33,001
It was crazy, crazy thinking.

718
00:34:36,729 --> 00:34:40,423
narrator: Now free love
transforms to boot camp

719
00:34:40,457 --> 00:34:45,013
as Manson readies his Family
for Helter Skelter.

720
00:34:45,048 --> 00:34:47,361
- Mark it.
- Sandy, Brenda, Squeaky,

721
00:34:47,395 --> 00:34:50,778
six, take one, roll 210.

722
00:34:50,812 --> 00:34:52,918
-We're always ready.

723
00:34:52,952 --> 00:34:56,335
- The new thought is
to be a strong reflection

724
00:34:56,370 --> 00:35:00,339
of the father.

725
00:35:00,374 --> 00:35:03,722
Now, I'm just finding out
about this, see.

726
00:35:03,756 --> 00:35:05,275
And it feels good.

727
00:35:05,310 --> 00:35:08,382
It feels good to know.

728
00:35:08,416 --> 00:35:10,832
- He issued us all buck knives

729
00:35:10,867 --> 00:35:12,731
and showed us
the most effective way

730
00:35:12,765 --> 00:35:14,560
to kill someone.

731
00:35:14,595 --> 00:35:16,286
He said it...

732
00:35:16,321 --> 00:35:18,978
"You have to be willing to kill

733
00:35:19,013 --> 00:35:21,774
in order to not be killed."

734
00:35:21,809 --> 00:35:23,431
- ♪ If you want it

735
00:35:23,466 --> 00:35:24,846
♪ Here it is

736
00:35:24,881 --> 00:35:27,815
♪ Come and get it

737
00:35:27,849 --> 00:35:29,196
- ♪ But you better hurry

738
00:35:29,230 --> 00:35:34,339
Because it won't be here long,
you.

739
00:35:34,373 --> 00:35:35,409
- He told us

740
00:35:35,443 --> 00:35:37,342
you stab and then you rip up.

741
00:35:37,376 --> 00:35:40,034
You know, you--that's what
I remember.

742
00:35:40,068 --> 00:35:41,587
It's like, you know, so,

743
00:35:41,622 --> 00:35:44,349
the reason being that
you would hit as many organs--

744
00:35:44,383 --> 00:35:49,112
you know, vital organs
as possible.

745
00:35:54,117 --> 00:35:55,912
- He was the commander now.

746
00:35:55,946 --> 00:35:58,156
And we were all in boot camp.

747
00:35:58,190 --> 00:36:00,503
I think the dangerous side
of Charlie

748
00:36:00,537 --> 00:36:01,538
was that

749
00:36:01,573 --> 00:36:04,714
he would do anything...

750
00:36:04,748 --> 00:36:09,028
to survive.

751
00:36:09,063 --> 00:36:10,168
narrator: While Manson's
Family

752
00:36:10,202 --> 00:36:11,169
think they're getting ready

753
00:36:11,203 --> 00:36:12,860
to defend themselves,

754
00:36:12,894 --> 00:36:14,344
in reality,

755
00:36:14,379 --> 00:36:18,762
their leader's intentions
are very different.

756
00:36:18,797 --> 00:36:21,524
- At that time, I was staying
with a man named Pete Nell

757
00:36:21,558 --> 00:36:24,803
who was president of the
San Francisco Hell's Angels.

758
00:36:24,837 --> 00:36:26,218
And I got to his house one day

759
00:36:26,253 --> 00:36:28,979
just as Charles Manson
had left,

760
00:36:29,014 --> 00:36:30,981
and he was flabbergasted.

761
00:36:31,016 --> 00:36:32,983
Charles Manson had come to them

762
00:36:33,018 --> 00:36:35,227
to try to get the Hell's Angels

763
00:36:35,262 --> 00:36:36,711
to begin a race war;

764
00:36:36,746 --> 00:36:39,852
to just go start randomly
shooting black people.

765
00:36:39,887 --> 00:36:42,234
And Pete had said, "You know,
if you want a race war,

766
00:36:42,269 --> 00:36:44,340
go start it yourself."

767
00:36:47,757 --> 00:36:49,448
narrator: A chilling
piece of audio

768
00:36:49,483 --> 00:36:51,278
captured on the lost tapes

769
00:36:51,312 --> 00:36:52,900
when the cameras
stopped rolling

770
00:36:52,934 --> 00:36:54,867
and never broadcast before

771
00:36:54,902 --> 00:36:57,801
reveals that Manson
now does plan

772
00:36:57,836 --> 00:37:00,390
to start that race war
himself.

773
00:37:00,425 --> 00:37:02,220
And the place he's chosen?

774
00:37:02,254 --> 00:37:04,532
The very heart
of Hollywood's elite:

775
00:37:04,567 --> 00:37:07,846
Beverly Hills.

776
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,088
- He said

777
00:37:09,123 --> 00:37:11,539
that one day, up in the

778
00:37:11,574 --> 00:37:13,921
mountains of Beverly Hills

779
00:37:13,955 --> 00:37:15,405
that they just, uh...

780
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,407
go in and have a bunch
of mass murders.

781
00:37:17,442 --> 00:37:18,753
That they would be
so atrocious.

782
00:37:18,788 --> 00:37:20,168
That there would be blood
splattered

783
00:37:20,203 --> 00:37:21,653
all over everything.

784
00:37:21,687 --> 00:37:23,275
That people would be
chopped to pieces

785
00:37:23,310 --> 00:37:24,897
and cut up with knives.

786
00:37:24,932 --> 00:37:29,316
There'd be things written
on the walls in blood.

787
00:37:29,350 --> 00:37:33,389
And, uh, the white man would
get all uptight about it

788
00:37:33,423 --> 00:37:36,806
and blame the for it.

789
00:37:48,956 --> 00:37:50,026
narrator: Coming up

790
00:37:50,060 --> 00:37:52,270
on "Inside the Manson Cult"...

791
00:37:52,304 --> 00:37:54,341
- He confided in me about
killing people.

792
00:37:54,375 --> 00:37:55,618
About how groovy it was

793
00:37:55,652 --> 00:37:59,691
to take a gun and blast
some guy in the stomach.

794
00:37:59,725 --> 00:38:00,761
narrator: And a former
cult member

795
00:38:00,795 --> 00:38:03,695
has to face
her younger self

796
00:38:03,729 --> 00:38:05,869
from half a century before.

797
00:38:05,904 --> 00:38:08,458
- Did I ever think
of her baby?

798
00:38:08,493 --> 00:38:10,667
I've pictured her pregnant.

799
00:38:10,702 --> 00:38:13,912
Anybody watching this would
think I was a monster.

800
00:38:24,509 --> 00:38:27,788
narrator: Early summer,
1969.

801
00:38:27,822 --> 00:38:31,032
Charles Manson is convinced
a race war

802
00:38:31,067 --> 00:38:32,482
is coming down fast.

803
00:38:32,517 --> 00:38:34,691
- The ranch changed completely

804
00:38:34,726 --> 00:38:37,176
after that.

805
00:38:37,211 --> 00:38:38,695
narrator: And the lost tapes

806
00:38:38,730 --> 00:38:43,321
show how his world view
turns dark.

807
00:38:43,355 --> 00:38:45,150
- He confided in me about
killing people.

808
00:38:45,184 --> 00:38:46,634
About how groovy it was

809
00:38:46,669 --> 00:38:47,808
to take a gun and

810
00:38:47,842 --> 00:38:49,913
blast some guy in the stomach

811
00:38:49,948 --> 00:38:55,885
just because he was black.

812
00:38:55,919 --> 00:38:57,645
About how far out it would be

813
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,509
to go into a house and...

814
00:38:59,544 --> 00:39:01,200
cut the out of women

815
00:39:01,235 --> 00:39:02,823
and cut the off
of little boys

816
00:39:02,857 --> 00:39:07,448
and just have pools of blood
everywhere.

817
00:39:07,483 --> 00:39:09,139
- Manson addressed

818
00:39:09,174 --> 00:39:12,867
the issue of
the pending race war

819
00:39:12,902 --> 00:39:15,353
by creating what he thought

820
00:39:15,387 --> 00:39:18,425
would be the circumstances
to ignite it.

821
00:39:20,979 --> 00:39:23,809
narrator: As Manson
hones his master plan,

822
00:39:23,844 --> 00:39:26,467
the tapes show how he's
conditioned his followers

823
00:39:26,502 --> 00:39:29,056
to commit the ultimate crime

824
00:39:29,090 --> 00:39:31,472
by conquering their
deepest fears

825
00:39:31,507 --> 00:39:32,646
of death.

826
00:39:36,546 --> 00:39:38,168
-There is no death.

827
00:39:38,203 --> 00:39:41,102
There's no such thing.
When you die,

828
00:39:41,137 --> 00:39:46,867
you die with the thoughts that
you have in your head.

829
00:39:46,901 --> 00:39:49,939
- Their reality was
such that oh,

830
00:39:49,973 --> 00:39:54,253
you know, death was
no big deal.

831
00:39:54,288 --> 00:39:56,428
- When somebody
needs to be killed,

832
00:39:56,463 --> 00:39:57,429
there's no wrong.

833
00:39:57,464 --> 00:39:58,637
You do it.

834
00:39:58,672 --> 00:40:00,708
And then you move on.

835
00:40:05,610 --> 00:40:08,820
- Manson had weaponized
his followers

836
00:40:08,854 --> 00:40:10,718
to use--like a knife,

837
00:40:10,753 --> 00:40:12,444
like a gun,

838
00:40:12,479 --> 00:40:14,170
like a rope,

839
00:40:14,204 --> 00:40:18,726
to kill the people
that he had targeted.

840
00:40:21,211 --> 00:40:23,006
narrator: Manson has trained
his Family

841
00:40:23,041 --> 00:40:25,250
to be able to kill for him.

842
00:40:25,284 --> 00:40:27,942
But are they ready
to really do it?

843
00:40:27,977 --> 00:40:30,773
It's time to find out.

844
00:40:59,249 --> 00:41:02,183
-Gary Hinman had his ear
chopped off...

845
00:41:02,218 --> 00:41:04,634
along with being killed
and stabbed and

846
00:41:04,669 --> 00:41:05,946
tortured...

847
00:41:05,980 --> 00:41:09,674
everything else he had done
to him.

848
00:41:09,708 --> 00:41:11,469
- We'd been to Gary's house

849
00:41:11,503 --> 00:41:12,539
you know, several times.

850
00:41:12,573 --> 00:41:14,955
He lived in Topanga Canyon.

851
00:41:14,989 --> 00:41:18,614
narrator: Gary Hinman has sold
Bobby Beausoleil some drugs.

852
00:41:18,648 --> 00:41:20,408
Beausoleil sells them on

853
00:41:20,443 --> 00:41:23,204
but his buyers think
the drugs are bad.

854
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,379
Beausoleil needs
the money back.

855
00:41:36,563 --> 00:41:38,737
- So, uh, Bobby was driven
over there

856
00:41:38,772 --> 00:41:40,083
to make it right

857
00:41:40,118 --> 00:41:42,707
with two girls
that knew Gary very well.

858
00:41:42,741 --> 00:41:45,813
In fact I think he had slept
with both of them.

859
00:41:45,848 --> 00:41:47,090
Susan Atkins

860
00:41:47,125 --> 00:41:49,610
and Mary Brunner.

861
00:42:00,587 --> 00:42:03,348
- Hinman denies
he did anything wrong.

862
00:42:03,382 --> 00:42:06,213
He doesn't have any money,
he swears by it.

863
00:42:06,247 --> 00:42:09,527
But he's getting loud,
he's getting angry.

864
00:42:09,561 --> 00:42:11,390
- The women get on the phone
with Manson

865
00:42:11,425 --> 00:42:12,460
and tell him what's going on

866
00:42:12,495 --> 00:42:13,669
and Manson decides

867
00:42:13,703 --> 00:42:15,533
that now he has to
ride in again

868
00:42:15,567 --> 00:42:19,329
and solve the situation.

869
00:42:19,364 --> 00:42:21,469
- Charlie gets a samurai sword.

870
00:42:21,504 --> 00:42:24,231
He takes the sword
to the house.

871
00:42:24,265 --> 00:42:25,646
- Once you show up
with a sword,

872
00:42:25,681 --> 00:42:27,130
things will not end well.

873
00:42:33,447 --> 00:42:36,588
- Manson makes a swipe.

874
00:42:36,623 --> 00:42:39,246
He made a slice from the ear
down to the face.

875
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,800
It was bleeding a lot.

876
00:42:51,672 --> 00:42:53,571
- Pretty much what he's
telling Beausoleil

877
00:42:53,605 --> 00:42:55,193
is, "Come on.

878
00:42:55,227 --> 00:42:58,506
You know what you have to do."

879
00:43:46,175 --> 00:43:48,764
- Bobby Beausoleil
takes one of the cars

880
00:43:48,798 --> 00:43:50,904
and leaves the area.

881
00:43:50,938 --> 00:43:53,803
Beausoleil is found
in the car, asleep,

882
00:43:53,838 --> 00:43:56,357
arrested,
charged with the crime

883
00:43:56,392 --> 00:43:58,014
of killing Gary Hinman.

884
00:43:58,049 --> 00:44:00,948
Manson gets a call
letting him know

885
00:44:00,983 --> 00:44:02,674
that Beausoleil
has been arrested,

886
00:44:02,709 --> 00:44:05,953
and this is where the chaos
really sets in.

887
00:44:05,988 --> 00:44:08,542
- This is when things
start getting really dire.

888
00:44:08,576 --> 00:44:11,096
I mean, really murderous.

889
00:44:11,131 --> 00:44:14,652
narrator: Manson's Family
are now murderers

890
00:44:14,686 --> 00:44:18,517
and, it seems, ready to
give up everything for him.

891
00:44:20,727 --> 00:44:24,075
It's time to put his
master plan into action.

892
00:44:24,109 --> 00:44:28,010
The Helter Skelter race war
won't start on its own.

893
00:44:28,044 --> 00:44:30,840
But his family can start
it for him,

894
00:44:30,875 --> 00:44:33,532
and he knows just where
and how

895
00:44:33,567 --> 00:44:36,190
he wants them to do it.

896
00:44:36,225 --> 00:44:38,917
It has taken over two years,

897
00:44:38,952 --> 00:44:41,023
but he has created
an army of followers

898
00:44:41,057 --> 00:44:45,683
ready to kill
to please their master.

899
00:44:45,717 --> 00:44:49,238
On the evening
of August 8, 1969,

900
00:44:49,272 --> 00:44:52,759
Charles Manson
selects his most trusted

901
00:44:52,793 --> 00:44:56,935
for a mission that will haunt
U.S. history.

902
00:44:56,970 --> 00:44:59,593
- Manson told his followers

903
00:44:59,627 --> 00:45:03,045
that this would
be the ignition point

904
00:45:03,079 --> 00:45:05,772
for Helter Skelter.

905
00:45:05,806 --> 00:45:08,050
narrator: Charles "Tex"
Watson,

906
00:45:08,084 --> 00:45:11,812
23-year-old ex-high school
football star.

907
00:45:11,847 --> 00:45:13,434
Patricia Krenwinkle,

908
00:45:13,469 --> 00:45:17,059
21, a onetime
church choir member.

909
00:45:17,093 --> 00:45:19,371
And Susan Atkins,

910
00:45:19,406 --> 00:45:20,856
also 21,

911
00:45:20,890 --> 00:45:24,756
a former Girl Scout.

912
00:45:24,791 --> 00:45:26,585
They'll be driven
to the onetime home

913
00:45:26,620 --> 00:45:28,691
of Terry Melcher,

914
00:45:28,726 --> 00:45:32,868
the man who rejected Manson
for a record deal:

915
00:45:32,902 --> 00:45:37,113
10050 Cielo Drive.

916
00:45:37,148 --> 00:45:38,183
Coming up

917
00:45:38,218 --> 00:45:41,117
on "Inside the Manson Cult"...

918
00:45:41,152 --> 00:45:45,190
Manson brings terror
to Tinseltown...

919
00:45:45,225 --> 00:45:48,055
- The gore. The blood.

920
00:45:48,090 --> 00:45:50,886
This was what Charles Manson
wanted.

921
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,785
narrator: And the threat
of more murder to come

922
00:45:53,820 --> 00:45:56,029
on the lost tapes.

923
00:45:56,063 --> 00:45:58,479
- If you had to kill more,
you'd kill more?

924
00:45:58,514 --> 00:45:59,791
- Mm-hmm.

925
00:45:59,826 --> 00:46:01,586
- Whatever we have to do.
- Whatever.

926
00:46:01,620 --> 00:46:04,278
- We leave our house open
to the soul.

927
00:46:13,909 --> 00:46:15,703
narrator: Charles Manson
has turned

928
00:46:15,738 --> 00:46:17,222
his young followers...

929
00:46:17,257 --> 00:46:19,017
- We're always ready.

930
00:46:19,052 --> 00:46:21,054
narrator: Into killers.

931
00:46:21,088 --> 00:46:23,781
- There is a deed to be done.

932
00:46:23,815 --> 00:46:28,786
There is something that has
to be taken care of here.

933
00:46:28,820 --> 00:46:31,202
narrator: The murder spree
has begun.

934
00:46:31,236 --> 00:46:33,273
-When somebody
needs to be killed,

935
00:46:33,307 --> 00:46:34,377
there's no wrong.

936
00:46:34,412 --> 00:46:35,447
You do it.

937
00:46:39,797 --> 00:46:40,832
woman on radio: Man down,
man down,

938
00:46:40,867 --> 00:46:44,008
at 10050 Cielo Drive, over.

939
00:46:44,042 --> 00:46:46,631
- August 9, 1969.

940
00:46:46,665 --> 00:46:48,046
9:00 a.m.

941
00:46:48,081 --> 00:46:51,981
Bob Burbridge is a 25-year-old
cop on patrol

942
00:46:52,016 --> 00:46:53,707
for the LAPD.

943
00:46:53,741 --> 00:46:56,192
- Well, I just got out
of roll call

944
00:46:56,227 --> 00:46:58,160
at West Los Angeles
Police Station

945
00:46:58,194 --> 00:47:00,507
and the call was
a man down call,

946
00:47:00,541 --> 00:47:04,511
a call of a drunk
or it could be a dead body.

947
00:47:04,545 --> 00:47:06,616
So I rolled on the call...

948
00:47:09,792 --> 00:47:13,002
- We're turning onto
Cielo Drive.

949
00:47:13,037 --> 00:47:15,902
This is the way I came up
on that day.

950
00:47:18,076 --> 00:47:21,321
We're approaching the driveway
going up to the mansion,

951
00:47:21,355 --> 00:47:25,359
the Sharon Tate mansion.

952
00:47:25,394 --> 00:47:26,671
As soon as I went through
the gate,

953
00:47:26,705 --> 00:47:31,745
I discovered a body
in a white car.

954
00:47:31,779 --> 00:47:33,126
I looked on the lawn,

955
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,302
and there were two more bodies
laying on the lawn.

956
00:47:39,477 --> 00:47:42,411
We decided that there might be
a sniper involved,

957
00:47:42,445 --> 00:47:43,999
so we asked one of the
policemen

958
00:47:44,033 --> 00:47:45,517
to go get a shotgun

959
00:47:45,552 --> 00:47:47,105
to cover us while we went

960
00:47:47,140 --> 00:47:50,108
running across this open area
to the house.

961
00:47:52,593 --> 00:47:55,113
narrator: By the summer
of 1969,

962
00:47:55,148 --> 00:47:56,459
Terry Melcher

963
00:47:56,494 --> 00:47:58,703
had moved out of the
Cielo Drive house.

964
00:47:58,737 --> 00:48:00,912
- Manson knew pretty damn well

965
00:48:00,947 --> 00:48:03,190
that Terry Melcher
no longer lived there.

966
00:48:03,225 --> 00:48:06,366
What you have here
is you have a resonance--

967
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,437
it's a symbolic resonance.

968
00:48:08,471 --> 00:48:10,473
And there's gonna be revenge

969
00:48:10,508 --> 00:48:12,855
on whoever is there:
men, women, children.

970
00:48:12,890 --> 00:48:15,168
It didn't really matter.

971
00:48:16,686 --> 00:48:20,414
narrator: The people now
living at 10050 Cielo Drive

972
00:48:20,449 --> 00:48:23,486
are Hollywood director
Roman Polanski

973
00:48:23,521 --> 00:48:24,729
and his wife,

974
00:48:24,763 --> 00:48:28,422
Sharon Tate.

975
00:48:28,457 --> 00:48:35,084
- Sharon Tate was a rising
young movie actress.

976
00:48:35,119 --> 00:48:38,398
She had not starred
in any A movies

977
00:48:38,432 --> 00:48:42,540
but she was certainly headed
in that direction.

978
00:48:42,574 --> 00:48:45,715
narrator: Polanski is in
London working on a movie.

979
00:48:45,750 --> 00:48:48,166
But Tate is at home
with friends.

980
00:48:51,238 --> 00:48:55,553
♪

981
00:48:55,587 --> 00:48:58,038
Three of Charles Manson's
most trusted followers

982
00:48:58,073 --> 00:49:00,523
had paid them a visit.

983
00:49:00,558 --> 00:49:04,044
♪

984
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:05,943
Charles "Tex" Watson,

985
00:49:05,977 --> 00:49:07,496
Patricia Krenwinkle,

986
00:49:07,530 --> 00:49:11,672
and Susan Atkins.

987
00:49:13,571 --> 00:49:16,677
The LAPD is just about
to find out

988
00:49:16,712 --> 00:49:18,783
what horrors
they had inflicted

989
00:49:18,817 --> 00:49:20,164
inside the house.

990
00:49:20,198 --> 00:49:22,442
- We got to the living room.

991
00:49:22,476 --> 00:49:24,962
We saw two more bodies--

992
00:49:24,996 --> 00:49:26,894
towels over their head

993
00:49:26,929 --> 00:49:30,795
and a rope wrapped around
both of their necks.

994
00:49:30,829 --> 00:49:35,213
One of them was Sharon Tate.

995
00:49:35,248 --> 00:49:39,217
She was obviously
eight to nine months pregnant.

996
00:49:39,252 --> 00:49:40,805
man's voice: A movie
actress and four

997
00:49:40,839 --> 00:49:42,255
of her friends were murdered.

998
00:49:42,289 --> 00:49:46,535
And the circumstances
were lurid.

999
00:49:46,569 --> 00:49:48,709
- I just remember she was
the most beautiful thing

1000
00:49:48,744 --> 00:49:53,300
I've ever seen.

1001
00:49:53,335 --> 00:49:56,821
And there was blood
all over her and...

1002
00:49:56,855 --> 00:49:57,822
it was awful.

1003
00:49:57,856 --> 00:49:58,926
It was just awful.

1004
00:49:58,961 --> 00:50:03,621
I--I hate
to even think about it.

1005
00:50:03,655 --> 00:50:06,969
- Identification of the persons
are as follows:

1006
00:50:07,004 --> 00:50:09,765
Sharon Polanski,

1007
00:50:09,799 --> 00:50:13,217
Jay Sebring, Abigail Folger...

1008
00:50:13,251 --> 00:50:15,495
- Jay Sebring was an
internationally famous

1009
00:50:15,529 --> 00:50:17,911
hairstylist.

1010
00:50:17,945 --> 00:50:20,396
Abigail Folger was the heiress

1011
00:50:20,431 --> 00:50:23,641
for the Folger coffee fortune.

1012
00:50:23,675 --> 00:50:29,060
Wojciech Frykowski was good
friends with Roman Polanski.

1013
00:50:29,095 --> 00:50:33,961
Steven Parent had just been
there to visit the caretaker.

1014
00:50:33,996 --> 00:50:37,034
The victims suffered
102 stab wounds.

1015
00:50:39,208 --> 00:50:42,246
Three of the victims
were shot.

1016
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,179
One of the victims was pounded

1017
00:50:44,213 --> 00:50:47,665
on his head with a gun butt.

1018
00:50:47,699 --> 00:50:50,564
Sharon Tate was hung
from a high beam

1019
00:50:50,599 --> 00:50:52,670
going across
the living room ceiling.

1020
00:50:57,261 --> 00:51:00,954
- The Manson followers, they
leave "pig" scrawled in blood

1021
00:51:00,988 --> 00:51:03,129
to try to convince
investigators

1022
00:51:03,163 --> 00:51:05,752
that the Black Panthers
had done this.

1023
00:51:05,786 --> 00:51:09,480
The Panthers call
police officers pigs

1024
00:51:09,514 --> 00:51:10,826
because they're trying to

1025
00:51:10,860 --> 00:51:13,518
dehumanize law enforcement

1026
00:51:13,553 --> 00:51:15,555
in the same way they argue
law enforcement

1027
00:51:15,589 --> 00:51:18,247
has dehumanized black people.

1028
00:51:18,282 --> 00:51:20,525
- The gore. The blood.

1029
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,321
Manson told his followers

1030
00:51:23,356 --> 00:51:26,083
that this would
be the ignition point

1031
00:51:26,117 --> 00:51:28,430
for Helter Skelter.

1032
00:51:28,464 --> 00:51:30,294
- The revolution
is waiting for a spark.

1033
00:51:30,328 --> 00:51:31,640
Everybody's ready.

1034
00:51:31,674 --> 00:51:34,953
Everybody's got their--
their guns together.

1035
00:51:34,988 --> 00:51:37,370
- All right, this is beautiful.

1036
00:51:37,404 --> 00:51:39,717
Okay, you'll be able to...

1037
00:51:39,751 --> 00:51:41,270
You have to have
this thing to where

1038
00:51:41,305 --> 00:51:43,410
it just slides right out
with your own motion.

1039
00:51:43,445 --> 00:51:45,792
- Everybody's waiting
for somebody

1040
00:51:45,826 --> 00:51:48,829
to...

1041
00:51:48,864 --> 00:51:50,728
have enough love

1042
00:51:50,762 --> 00:51:53,282
to start it.

1043
00:51:53,317 --> 00:51:55,767
narrator: Not content
with one bloodbath,

1044
00:51:55,802 --> 00:51:57,493
on the following night

1045
00:51:57,528 --> 00:51:59,461
Manson decides
that the killing spree

1046
00:51:59,495 --> 00:52:01,290
must continue.

1047
00:52:01,325 --> 00:52:04,259
- The Family drove around
Los Angeles county

1048
00:52:04,293 --> 00:52:06,157
for 4 1/2 hours

1049
00:52:06,192 --> 00:52:09,954
looking at random
for people to murder.

1050
00:52:09,988 --> 00:52:11,369
Then Manson started giving

1051
00:52:11,404 --> 00:52:14,683
more specific directions,

1052
00:52:14,717 --> 00:52:17,203
and they ended up
at the LaBianca house

1053
00:52:17,237 --> 00:52:19,481
at 3301 Waverly Drive.

1054
00:52:23,485 --> 00:52:25,797
narrator: The house belongs to
supermarket owner

1055
00:52:25,832 --> 00:52:27,351
Leno LaBianca

1056
00:52:27,385 --> 00:52:28,835
and his wife, Rosemary.

1057
00:52:31,838 --> 00:52:35,531
♪

1058
00:52:35,566 --> 00:52:38,293
- He said, "Don't move.
This is just a robbery."

1059
00:52:41,227 --> 00:52:42,745
He assured them that

1060
00:52:42,780 --> 00:52:44,575
he wasn't going to hurt them.

1061
00:52:44,609 --> 00:52:49,338
♪

1062
00:52:49,373 --> 00:52:51,616
He took Rosemary LaBianca's
wallet

1063
00:52:51,651 --> 00:52:56,587
because he wanted to have it
planted in a black area

1064
00:52:56,621 --> 00:52:59,555
and he wanted a black person
to find the wallet

1065
00:52:59,590 --> 00:53:00,970
and use the credit cards

1066
00:53:01,005 --> 00:53:02,558
and get blamed
for the murders.

1067
00:53:02,593 --> 00:53:04,905
♪

1068
00:53:04,940 --> 00:53:07,425
He said, "Don't let them know
that you're gonna kill them."

1069
00:53:07,460 --> 00:53:10,946
♪

1070
00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:13,328
- In a personality-driven
cult,

1071
00:53:13,362 --> 00:53:16,365
whatever the leader says
is right is right,

1072
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,575
and whatever the leader says
is wrong is wrong.

1073
00:53:19,610 --> 00:53:22,233
His ideas,

1074
00:53:22,268 --> 00:53:23,855
his prescriptions

1075
00:53:23,890 --> 00:53:25,271
are absolute

1076
00:53:25,305 --> 00:53:27,997
and must be accepted
without question.

1077
00:53:30,517 --> 00:53:32,105
- No "why?"

1078
00:53:32,139 --> 00:53:33,313
We never ask why.

1079
00:53:35,798 --> 00:53:37,248
- Mm-hmm.

1080
00:53:37,283 --> 00:53:39,008
- Whatever we have to do.
- Whatever.

1081
00:53:39,043 --> 00:53:41,494
- We leave our house open
to the soul.

1082
00:53:41,528 --> 00:53:43,737
We leave our mind open.

1083
00:53:51,366 --> 00:53:53,230
- In the LaBianca house,

1084
00:53:53,264 --> 00:53:55,232
above the inside
of the front door

1085
00:53:55,266 --> 00:53:58,925
is written the word "rise."

1086
00:53:58,959 --> 00:54:00,927
On the living room wall

1087
00:54:00,961 --> 00:54:02,549
in Leno LaBianca's blood

1088
00:54:02,584 --> 00:54:06,519
is written "death to pigs."

1089
00:54:06,553 --> 00:54:08,452
- Well, that was the whole
point of it.

1090
00:54:08,486 --> 00:54:11,696
Staging the murder scene
the way it was staged

1091
00:54:11,731 --> 00:54:14,423
was so that it would be
believed that

1092
00:54:14,458 --> 00:54:16,839
this was a race war.

1093
00:54:16,874 --> 00:54:19,290
That this was
the disenfranchised

1094
00:54:19,325 --> 00:54:22,707
lashing out at the rich
and the privileged.

1095
00:54:22,742 --> 00:54:24,813
- And it's the people
that will cause a revolution.

1096
00:54:24,847 --> 00:54:26,815
And it's the people that will
cause a change

1097
00:54:26,849 --> 00:54:28,057
in the country.

1098
00:54:28,092 --> 00:54:30,439
- And on the refrigerator
at the LaBiancas

1099
00:54:30,474 --> 00:54:32,476
in Leno LaBianca's blood

1100
00:54:32,510 --> 00:54:35,133
is written the words
"Helter Skelter."

1101
00:54:39,276 --> 00:54:42,865
narrator: Coming up on
"Inside the Manson Cult,"

1102
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:46,386
news of the murders
spreads through The Family...

1103
00:54:46,421 --> 00:54:48,388
- Tex tells me, "I did this.

1104
00:54:48,423 --> 00:54:49,907
Charlie told me to."

1105
00:54:49,941 --> 00:54:52,185
They were almost like lethal.

1106
00:54:52,219 --> 00:54:56,223
They didn't seem to have
any remorse.

1107
00:54:56,258 --> 00:54:57,639
narrator: And a new member

1108
00:54:57,673 --> 00:54:59,986
shares an extraordinary
confession

1109
00:55:00,020 --> 00:55:02,126
for the first time.

1110
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,749
- One of the girls came up
to me and said

1111
00:55:04,784 --> 00:55:10,583
"We want you to go
to the courthouse and...

1112
00:55:10,617 --> 00:55:11,929
Kill the judge."

1113
00:55:25,045 --> 00:55:26,944
Male announcer: The latest
murders were discovered

1114
00:55:26,978 --> 00:55:28,808
during the night.

1115
00:55:28,842 --> 00:55:31,362
Leno LaBianca,
a supermarket owner,

1116
00:55:31,397 --> 00:55:34,054
and his wife had both
been stabbed to death,

1117
00:55:34,089 --> 00:55:37,161
repeated stab wounds.

1118
00:55:37,195 --> 00:55:41,407
- It was just pandemonium,
in Los Angeles especially.

1119
00:55:41,441 --> 00:55:43,443
People were so scared

1120
00:55:43,478 --> 00:55:48,172
that gun sales
went up tremendously.

1121
00:55:48,206 --> 00:55:51,175
- People are buying
extra locks on their doors.

1122
00:55:51,209 --> 00:55:53,142
Entertainers out there
are hiring bodyguards

1123
00:55:53,177 --> 00:55:54,834
to be--to be with them,

1124
00:55:54,868 --> 00:55:56,663
you know, 24/7.

1125
00:55:56,698 --> 00:55:58,320
So it put the fear of God
in them.

1126
00:56:00,702 --> 00:56:03,567
- Charles Manson
accomplished his goal

1127
00:56:03,601 --> 00:56:06,708
of terrorizing Los Angeles.

1128
00:56:06,742 --> 00:56:13,473
No one was safe.

1129
00:56:13,508 --> 00:56:15,510
narrator: Back at Spahn Ranch,

1130
00:56:15,544 --> 00:56:19,341
news of the murders
spread through The Family.

1131
00:56:19,376 --> 00:56:21,447
- Tex tells me, "I did this.

1132
00:56:21,481 --> 00:56:23,932
Charlie told me to."

1133
00:56:23,966 --> 00:56:27,107
Patty said that
she had stabbed somebody

1134
00:56:27,142 --> 00:56:29,627
and at first, you know,
it was hard

1135
00:56:29,662 --> 00:56:33,182
but then it got to be more fun.

1136
00:56:33,217 --> 00:56:35,530
They were almost
like boastful

1137
00:56:35,564 --> 00:56:37,428
or gleeful.

1138
00:56:37,463 --> 00:56:38,498
I mean, it's like they...

1139
00:56:38,533 --> 00:56:43,779
they didn't seem to have
any remorse.

1140
00:56:43,814 --> 00:56:47,024
- Despite the violence
and the brutality

1141
00:56:47,058 --> 00:56:48,405
of these murders,

1142
00:56:48,439 --> 00:56:50,061
the people that had
committed them

1143
00:56:50,096 --> 00:56:51,338
of this following

1144
00:56:51,373 --> 00:56:54,928
were still very proud
of what they had done.

1145
00:56:54,963 --> 00:56:57,448
For them, it was a way to
sort of say,

1146
00:56:57,483 --> 00:56:58,794
"Hey, look at what I did.

1147
00:56:58,829 --> 00:57:01,625
This is how loyal I am
for Charlie."

1148
00:57:10,150 --> 00:57:12,049
narrator: For the first time
in decades,

1149
00:57:12,083 --> 00:57:13,395
Catherine Share,

1150
00:57:13,430 --> 00:57:15,466
known in The Family as Gypsy,

1151
00:57:15,501 --> 00:57:18,193
sets eyes on her younger self.

1152
00:57:18,227 --> 00:57:22,059
She was filmed shortly after
the Tate murders.

1153
00:57:23,336 --> 00:57:24,371
- Mm-hmm.

1154
00:57:27,202 --> 00:57:29,515
- Did I ever think of her baby?

1155
00:57:29,549 --> 00:57:31,551
I've pictured her pregnant.

1156
00:57:31,586 --> 00:57:33,380
Yeah.

1157
00:57:33,415 --> 00:57:35,866
No, I've--I've only pictured
her pregnant.

1158
00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:38,144
That's the only way I can
picture her.

1159
00:57:38,178 --> 00:57:41,354
I was so cut off
that I couldn't feel...

1160
00:57:41,388 --> 00:57:43,667
what I should have felt
for another pregnant woman

1161
00:57:43,701 --> 00:57:44,840
and her child.

1162
00:57:44,875 --> 00:57:47,602
And it's very disturbing
to watch me

1163
00:57:47,636 --> 00:57:50,605
put that out.

1164
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:52,089
- The baby?

1165
00:57:52,123 --> 00:57:56,403
- No, I picture Sharon Tate
pregnant at times. Yeah.

1166
00:57:56,438 --> 00:57:59,199
Anybody watching this
would think I was a monster.

1167
00:58:02,548 --> 00:58:04,170
- I didn't know her.

1168
00:58:04,204 --> 00:58:05,654
I never met her.

1169
00:58:05,689 --> 00:58:08,277
How can you tell
what's in a picture?

1170
00:58:08,312 --> 00:58:10,314
It's not even living.

1171
00:58:10,348 --> 00:58:12,212
And there was part of me

1172
00:58:12,247 --> 00:58:15,630
that still believed that
he had all the answers

1173
00:58:15,664 --> 00:58:17,045
and he was the one.

1174
00:58:17,079 --> 00:58:18,529
There was another part of me

1175
00:58:18,564 --> 00:58:20,876
that was starting
to know better.

1176
00:58:20,911 --> 00:58:22,429
But I was keeping it

1177
00:58:22,464 --> 00:58:24,293
just deep down inside.

1178
00:58:24,328 --> 00:58:26,537
Because if I showed it,

1179
00:58:26,572 --> 00:58:28,228
my life would be in danger.

1180
00:58:30,472 --> 00:58:33,061
narrator: While Manson
plots his next move,

1181
00:58:33,095 --> 00:58:36,409
the cops are fumbling
their investigation.

1182
00:58:36,443 --> 00:58:38,238
- The police had no idea

1183
00:58:38,273 --> 00:58:41,345
who committed these murders.

1184
00:58:41,379 --> 00:58:44,348
They had one team working on

1185
00:58:44,382 --> 00:58:46,419
the Tate murders,

1186
00:58:46,453 --> 00:58:49,318
and another team working on
the LaBianca murders.

1187
00:58:51,493 --> 00:58:53,909
- They didn't think these
cases, ah, were related,

1188
00:58:53,944 --> 00:58:55,704
you know, at all.

1189
00:58:55,739 --> 00:58:58,051
I mean, this is obvious to me.

1190
00:58:58,086 --> 00:58:59,259
Here's the signature.

1191
00:58:59,294 --> 00:59:01,572
Here's the symbolism of this.

1192
00:59:01,607 --> 00:59:03,194
What are the probability

1193
00:59:03,229 --> 00:59:06,094
that someone else is
perpetrating the same crime,

1194
00:59:06,128 --> 00:59:07,095
the same way?

1195
00:59:10,132 --> 00:59:11,617
♪

1196
00:59:11,651 --> 00:59:13,998
narrator: As the investigation
stumbles along,

1197
00:59:14,033 --> 00:59:16,898
Manson leads his followers
to the desert

1198
00:59:16,932 --> 00:59:19,694
to hide out from
the Helter Skelter race war

1199
00:59:19,728 --> 00:59:21,765
he still insists is coming.

1200
00:59:21,799 --> 00:59:24,457
♪

1201
00:59:24,491 --> 00:59:28,530
But then things start
to go wrong.

1202
00:59:28,565 --> 00:59:31,671
- Charlie decided that he was
gonna burn up an earth-mover.

1203
00:59:31,706 --> 00:59:33,431
Not a very swift move when you,

1204
00:59:33,466 --> 00:59:35,710
when you want to hide.

1205
00:59:38,644 --> 00:59:40,059
- I was washing my hair.

1206
00:59:40,093 --> 00:59:41,854
- Get your hands up!

1207
00:59:41,888 --> 00:59:44,304
Everybody up, turn around!

1208
00:59:44,339 --> 00:59:46,721
- And I had a gun
pointing at me,

1209
00:59:46,755 --> 00:59:48,067
"You're under arrest."

1210
00:59:48,101 --> 00:59:49,516
- Quiet, give me
your other hand.

1211
00:59:49,551 --> 00:59:50,517
I said move!

1212
00:59:50,552 --> 00:59:53,486
- Charlie disappeared.

1213
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:54,798
Just--

1214
00:59:57,317 --> 00:59:59,043
You know, he made himself
invisible.

1215
01:00:04,324 --> 01:00:06,499
-Get up! Get up!

1216
01:00:06,533 --> 01:00:08,777
- So the police found Charlie

1217
01:00:08,812 --> 01:00:10,330
under the sink cupboard.

1218
01:00:10,365 --> 01:00:12,885
♪

1219
01:00:12,919 --> 01:00:14,749
narrator: To The Family's
relief,

1220
01:00:14,783 --> 01:00:16,647
the cops aren't hunting
for the Tate

1221
01:00:16,682 --> 01:00:19,098
and LaBianca killers.

1222
01:00:19,132 --> 01:00:23,309
They're looking for the people
who burnt the earth-mover.

1223
01:00:23,343 --> 01:00:25,207
- We got arrested
for vandalizing

1224
01:00:25,242 --> 01:00:27,382
government property.

1225
01:00:27,416 --> 01:00:31,662
♪

1226
01:00:31,697 --> 01:00:33,560
narrator: The police
have no idea

1227
01:00:33,595 --> 01:00:36,391
that they have America's
most wanted killers

1228
01:00:36,425 --> 01:00:37,806
in their care.

1229
01:00:40,706 --> 01:00:42,086
Coming up,

1230
01:00:42,121 --> 01:00:44,710
exclusive lost tape footage
with the prisoner

1231
01:00:44,744 --> 01:00:46,988
who blows the Sharon Tate
murder case

1232
01:00:47,022 --> 01:00:47,989
wide open.

1233
01:00:48,023 --> 01:00:49,473
- She told me

1234
01:00:49,507 --> 01:00:52,752
she just kept stabbing her
until she stopped screaming.

1235
01:00:52,787 --> 01:00:53,753
narrator: And shocking
evidence

1236
01:00:53,788 --> 01:00:56,238
of the power Charles Manson

1237
01:00:56,273 --> 01:00:57,964
has over his followers.

1238
01:00:57,999 --> 01:00:59,586
- I'm ready to die
for Charlie.

1239
01:00:59,621 --> 01:01:01,588
I'm ready to die.

1240
01:01:11,529 --> 01:01:13,014
narrator: Charles Manson

1241
01:01:13,048 --> 01:01:15,154
and some of his
most faithful followers

1242
01:01:15,188 --> 01:01:18,813
are in jail after burning
an earth-mover.

1243
01:01:18,847 --> 01:01:22,023
But they also just may be
getting away with murder.

1244
01:01:23,921 --> 01:01:26,096
- It wasn't until Susan Atkins

1245
01:01:26,130 --> 01:01:27,891
got transferred

1246
01:01:27,925 --> 01:01:30,825
to Los Angeles County Jail
Sybil Brand

1247
01:01:30,859 --> 01:01:34,691
that she started
talking to her cellmate

1248
01:01:34,725 --> 01:01:36,969
about Charlie, and, you know,

1249
01:01:37,003 --> 01:01:38,349
Helter Skelter.

1250
01:01:40,179 --> 01:01:43,527
narrator: Susan Atkins,
known in The Family as Sadie,

1251
01:01:43,561 --> 01:01:44,942
was at the Hinman murder

1252
01:01:44,977 --> 01:01:48,739
and also at the Tate mansion
on Cielo Drive.

1253
01:01:48,774 --> 01:01:52,018
- Susan Atkins came from a,
uh, middle-class family.

1254
01:01:52,053 --> 01:01:54,676
Unfortunately her mother died
at a very, very young age,

1255
01:01:54,711 --> 01:01:57,023
which devastated her.

1256
01:01:57,058 --> 01:01:58,784
She wasn't getting
the attention anymore

1257
01:01:58,818 --> 01:02:00,958
from the mother who she loved,
she loved dearly

1258
01:02:00,993 --> 01:02:03,374
and she sought out others

1259
01:02:03,409 --> 01:02:06,515
to get some type of attention.

1260
01:02:06,550 --> 01:02:07,896
narrator: While in jail,

1261
01:02:07,931 --> 01:02:11,348
Atkins latches onto cellmate
Ronnie Howard.

1262
01:02:11,382 --> 01:02:14,075
- Roll 159.

1263
01:02:14,109 --> 01:02:15,490
What is your name?

1264
01:02:15,524 --> 01:02:17,699
- My name is Ronnie Howard.

1265
01:02:17,734 --> 01:02:20,288
narrator: And the lost tapes
reveal how Atkins

1266
01:02:20,322 --> 01:02:22,842
unwittingly gives
the game away.

1267
01:02:22,877 --> 01:02:24,706
- She was telling me about

1268
01:02:24,741 --> 01:02:25,776
different things that

1269
01:02:25,811 --> 01:02:27,467
she thought would shock me.

1270
01:02:27,502 --> 01:02:29,607
And I told her,
"Nothing shocks me."

1271
01:02:29,642 --> 01:02:31,402
And she said, "Well,
I think I can tell you

1272
01:02:31,437 --> 01:02:33,094
a few things that would
shock you."

1273
01:02:38,409 --> 01:02:40,687
- She confessed
to Ronnie Howard

1274
01:02:40,722 --> 01:02:42,517
about her participation

1275
01:02:42,551 --> 01:02:45,209
and Charles Manson's
participation

1276
01:02:45,244 --> 01:02:46,590
in these murders.

1277
01:02:46,624 --> 01:02:48,799
- I asked her,
"If you were really there,"

1278
01:02:48,834 --> 01:02:53,839
I said, "Who really
killed Sharon Tate?"

1279
01:02:53,873 --> 01:02:55,288
And she told me

1280
01:02:55,323 --> 01:02:59,189
that she killed Sharon Tate.

1281
01:02:59,223 --> 01:03:01,812
She said she was the one
that stabbed her.

1282
01:03:01,847 --> 01:03:04,366
Every time she screamed
she'd stab her again and...

1283
01:03:04,401 --> 01:03:08,094
she just kept stabbing her
until she stopped screaming.

1284
01:03:08,129 --> 01:03:09,509
And she said it sent

1285
01:03:09,544 --> 01:03:12,512
a hot rush all the way
through her body.

1286
01:03:12,547 --> 01:03:14,135
And she told me that

1287
01:03:14,169 --> 01:03:15,619
to stab somebody

1288
01:03:15,653 --> 01:03:17,655
is better than having a climax.

1289
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:21,970
But she--she told me that

1290
01:03:22,005 --> 01:03:24,352
the future murders
would be more gruesome.

1291
01:03:24,386 --> 01:03:26,872
They wanted to do something
to really shock the world.

1292
01:03:26,906 --> 01:03:28,770
A few of them
were celebrities.

1293
01:03:28,805 --> 01:03:31,117
- Which celebrities were
they going to kill?

1294
01:03:31,152 --> 01:03:32,843
- Steve McQueen.

1295
01:03:32,878 --> 01:03:34,880
Tom Jones.

1296
01:03:34,914 --> 01:03:36,536
Frank Sinatra.

1297
01:03:36,571 --> 01:03:38,055
Liz Taylor.

1298
01:03:40,817 --> 01:03:45,028
♪

1299
01:03:45,062 --> 01:03:46,512
- Ronnie Howard

1300
01:03:46,546 --> 01:03:48,721
called LAPD and said, "Hey,

1301
01:03:48,755 --> 01:03:52,035
this is what this woman
has told us,"

1302
01:03:52,069 --> 01:03:54,209
and that broke the case.

1303
01:03:56,246 --> 01:03:59,214
narrator: On December 9, 1969,

1304
01:03:59,249 --> 01:04:02,804
the charge against Manson
is changed from arson

1305
01:04:02,839 --> 01:04:04,323
to first-degree murder.

1306
01:04:04,357 --> 01:04:05,669
Male announcer:
A wandering band

1307
01:04:05,703 --> 01:04:07,705
of members of
a so-called religious cult

1308
01:04:07,740 --> 01:04:09,880
with a leader they call Jesus

1309
01:04:09,915 --> 01:04:12,124
has had three of its
followers arrested

1310
01:04:12,158 --> 01:04:15,334
in the investigation
of the murder of Sharon Tate

1311
01:04:15,368 --> 01:04:17,888
and six others.

1312
01:04:17,923 --> 01:04:20,132
narrator: But Manson's arrest
for the murders

1313
01:04:20,166 --> 01:04:22,928
does not signal the end
of his Family.

1314
01:04:22,962 --> 01:04:25,862
In fact, it gains a new member

1315
01:04:25,896 --> 01:04:27,725
at a crucial time.

1316
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,970
- I walked away from my house
and everything that was in it.

1317
01:04:31,005 --> 01:04:34,146
Just...away.

1318
01:04:34,180 --> 01:04:37,321
And, uh, went to the ranch.

1319
01:04:37,356 --> 01:04:40,014
narrator: 24-year-old
Aesop Aquarian

1320
01:04:40,048 --> 01:04:43,258
is a musician
and aspiring actor.

1321
01:04:43,293 --> 01:04:45,882
The lost tapes show him
playing guitar

1322
01:04:45,916 --> 01:04:48,125
with the Family just days
after the murder charge

1323
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,094
is filed.

1324
01:04:51,128 --> 01:04:55,029
- I was,
"part of The Family."

1325
01:04:55,063 --> 01:04:57,963
I was living on the ranch,
working the ranch.

1326
01:04:57,997 --> 01:04:59,447
I was taking care
of the girls,

1327
01:04:59,481 --> 01:05:00,620
I was driving the girls,

1328
01:05:00,655 --> 01:05:03,244
I was making sure
they were safe.

1329
01:05:03,278 --> 01:05:06,109
And the love that
was there was...

1330
01:05:06,143 --> 01:05:09,284
undeniable, anybody who came
on the ranch

1331
01:05:09,319 --> 01:05:11,045
even for a second,

1332
01:05:11,079 --> 01:05:14,255
you know, caught the love
that we had.

1333
01:05:16,636 --> 01:05:18,638
- Even when he was in jail,

1334
01:05:18,673 --> 01:05:21,779
Charlie was still able
to manipulate

1335
01:05:21,814 --> 01:05:26,336
and have power and control
over his followers.

1336
01:05:26,370 --> 01:05:28,027
narrator: New recruit Aquarian

1337
01:05:28,062 --> 01:05:30,754
can see firsthand
how Manson's power

1338
01:05:30,788 --> 01:05:33,791
is getting, if anything,
stronger.

1339
01:05:35,828 --> 01:05:39,245
- These girls loved Charlie
so much

1340
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,282
that they literally

1341
01:05:41,316 --> 01:05:45,044
would do anything for him.

1342
01:05:45,079 --> 01:05:48,841
Literally would do
anything for him.

1343
01:05:48,875 --> 01:05:50,291
- Whenever we need to,

1344
01:05:50,325 --> 01:05:51,499
we respond.

1345
01:05:51,533 --> 01:05:52,672
We respond with our knives.

1346
01:05:52,707 --> 01:05:54,019
We respond with
whatever we have.

1347
01:05:57,746 --> 01:06:00,025
narrator: Among Manson's
most loyal disciples

1348
01:06:00,059 --> 01:06:01,405
on the outside

1349
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,994
are Nancy Pitman,
known as Brenda,

1350
01:06:04,029 --> 01:06:06,617
Lynette Fromme,
known as Squeaky,

1351
01:06:06,652 --> 01:06:10,138
and Sandra Goode,
known as Sandy.

1352
01:06:10,173 --> 01:06:12,554
- We could respond so quickly.

1353
01:06:12,589 --> 01:06:14,556
Teeth...
- Anything.

1354
01:06:14,591 --> 01:06:18,112
Whatever. Whatever's at hand.

1355
01:06:18,146 --> 01:06:19,113
Because we are animals.

1356
01:06:19,147 --> 01:06:20,114
- We are.

1357
01:06:22,392 --> 01:06:24,256
- And I know that if they

1358
01:06:24,290 --> 01:06:26,396
ever laid a finger on Charlie,

1359
01:06:26,430 --> 01:06:28,398
if we were unarmed, we would

1360
01:06:28,432 --> 01:06:31,332
chew their necks off,

1361
01:06:31,366 --> 01:06:33,161
anything. Claw their eyes out.

1362
01:06:33,196 --> 01:06:34,300
And they know it.

1363
01:06:34,335 --> 01:06:36,785
- Those members that stayed

1364
01:06:36,820 --> 01:06:39,857
to the very end
with Charles Manson

1365
01:06:39,892 --> 01:06:41,480
were in love with him.

1366
01:06:41,514 --> 01:06:44,034
- N-88!

1367
01:06:44,069 --> 01:06:47,451
- The idea
that they might imagine

1368
01:06:47,486 --> 01:06:51,559
another life
did not occur to them.

1369
01:06:51,593 --> 01:06:53,181
- I'm ready to die
for Charlie.

1370
01:06:53,216 --> 01:06:54,665
He's ready to die for me.

1371
01:06:54,700 --> 01:06:58,359
He has died for me.

1372
01:06:58,393 --> 01:07:01,258
I'm ready to die.

1373
01:07:01,293 --> 01:07:03,985
I'm ready to die for--
to protect my own.

1374
01:07:08,783 --> 01:07:14,202
narrator: The Manson trial
begins on July 24, 1970.

1375
01:07:14,237 --> 01:07:16,480
- I have no, uh,
absolute knowledge,

1376
01:07:16,515 --> 01:07:17,964
but I don't think any case
in history

1377
01:07:17,999 --> 01:07:20,346
has received this much
pre-trial publicity

1378
01:07:20,381 --> 01:07:22,555
throughout the world.

1379
01:07:22,590 --> 01:07:23,936
narrator: Stephen Kay

1380
01:07:23,970 --> 01:07:27,284
was a rookie prosecutor
working on the case.

1381
01:07:27,319 --> 01:07:30,667
- At age 27,
I had been assigned

1382
01:07:30,701 --> 01:07:32,427
to be a prosecutor on

1383
01:07:32,462 --> 01:07:37,294
what was then considered
the crime of the century.

1384
01:07:37,329 --> 01:07:40,780
narrator: Kay's job
will be tough.

1385
01:07:40,815 --> 01:07:44,336
- Manson left no fingerprints
at the locations.

1386
01:07:44,370 --> 01:07:46,269
There was nothing at the scene

1387
01:07:46,303 --> 01:07:48,857
of the crimes to tie Manson
into the crime

1388
01:07:48,892 --> 01:07:53,310
so it was all testimony.

1389
01:07:53,345 --> 01:07:55,519
- So what basically
had to be proved

1390
01:07:55,554 --> 01:07:58,246
was that Charlie had
manipulated his followers

1391
01:07:58,281 --> 01:08:01,422
so much that he himself was
culpable of these murders.

1392
01:08:01,456 --> 01:08:03,079
man: You want Mr. Kanarek

1393
01:08:03,113 --> 01:08:05,943
to challenge the jurors
or are you ready to accept

1394
01:08:05,978 --> 01:08:07,393
anyone that's put in the box?

1395
01:08:07,428 --> 01:08:09,913
- You've already tried
the case.

1396
01:08:09,947 --> 01:08:11,742
narrator: To bring
Manson down,

1397
01:08:11,777 --> 01:08:14,297
the prosecution needs someone
on the inside

1398
01:08:14,331 --> 01:08:16,506
to turn against him.

1399
01:08:16,540 --> 01:08:19,060
But getting a Family member
to break ranks

1400
01:08:19,095 --> 01:08:21,959
will be no easy task.

1401
01:08:21,994 --> 01:08:24,721
- In the visiting room
he said to a Family member,

1402
01:08:24,755 --> 01:08:27,137
"If Gypsy tries to get away,

1403
01:08:27,172 --> 01:08:29,415
"I want you to...

1404
01:08:29,450 --> 01:08:31,210
"tie her behind a car

1405
01:08:31,245 --> 01:08:33,281
"and drag her slowly

1406
01:08:33,316 --> 01:08:35,973
"back to the ranch.
Don't kill her,

1407
01:08:36,008 --> 01:08:38,942
but you can get close."

1408
01:08:38,976 --> 01:08:41,047
And then he looked at me
and said,

1409
01:08:41,082 --> 01:08:42,118
"Are you going anywhere?"

1410
01:08:42,152 --> 01:08:43,705
And I said, "No."

1411
01:08:46,087 --> 01:08:48,917
narrator: Another potential
witness is Dianne Lake,

1412
01:08:48,952 --> 01:08:51,437
known in The Family as Snake.

1413
01:08:51,472 --> 01:08:53,819
She's now 16.

1414
01:08:53,853 --> 01:08:55,993
Still under Manson's control,

1415
01:08:56,028 --> 01:08:58,099
Lake has kept
her true identity hidden

1416
01:08:58,134 --> 01:09:00,481
from the prison authorities...

1417
01:09:00,515 --> 01:09:02,759
Until now.

1418
01:09:02,793 --> 01:09:05,693
- They sent us to testify
in front of the Grand Jury

1419
01:09:05,727 --> 01:09:10,007
and that's when I finally
felt safe enough

1420
01:09:10,042 --> 01:09:11,906
to say...

1421
01:09:11,940 --> 01:09:14,495
"My name is Dianne Lake.

1422
01:09:14,529 --> 01:09:18,775
I'm 16, and I want my mommy."

1423
01:09:18,809 --> 01:09:22,537
narrator: But after two years
of near-daily LSD use

1424
01:09:22,572 --> 01:09:25,057
Lake is in no position
to testify.

1425
01:09:25,091 --> 01:09:27,577
Diagnosed with schizophrenia,

1426
01:09:27,611 --> 01:09:31,201
she's sent for emergency
psychiatric treatment.

1427
01:09:31,236 --> 01:09:34,480
- They committed me
to 90 days observation

1428
01:09:34,515 --> 01:09:36,724
at Patton State Hospital.

1429
01:09:36,758 --> 01:09:43,144
And then the 90 days
turned into nine months.

1430
01:09:43,179 --> 01:09:46,251
It was like he was in my head

1431
01:09:46,285 --> 01:09:48,460
telling me,

1432
01:09:48,494 --> 01:09:50,358
"Turn left. Turn right."

1433
01:09:50,393 --> 01:09:53,016
You know, "Turn the light off."

1434
01:09:53,050 --> 01:09:56,985
"Don't say that" or
"Don't talk to that person."

1435
01:10:00,541 --> 01:10:03,129
There was one officer
in particular that really

1436
01:10:03,164 --> 01:10:07,444
treated me with--with respect

1437
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:09,757
and like a tenderness.

1438
01:10:09,791 --> 01:10:11,241
He made me feel safe

1439
01:10:11,276 --> 01:10:14,693
enough to start telling...

1440
01:10:14,727 --> 01:10:16,591
telling the truth.

1441
01:10:16,626 --> 01:10:19,318
- Sandy, Brenda, Squeaky,
four, take one, roll 209.

1442
01:10:19,353 --> 01:10:22,287
narrator: As Lake prepares
to testify against Manson

1443
01:10:22,321 --> 01:10:27,050
the tapes reveals what her
former friends think of her.

1444
01:10:27,084 --> 01:10:28,431
-She's a very young girl,

1445
01:10:28,465 --> 01:10:30,398
and by the time the, the DAs
had gotten through with her

1446
01:10:30,433 --> 01:10:32,297
she was speaking their
language.

1447
01:10:32,331 --> 01:10:33,539
She's just like a baby.

1448
01:10:33,574 --> 01:10:35,196
She can be molded whatever way

1449
01:10:35,231 --> 01:10:37,094
anyone chooses to mold her.

1450
01:10:38,958 --> 01:10:40,477
- I'm sure that's what they
believed, you know,

1451
01:10:40,512 --> 01:10:43,066
that I had been, uh,
swallowed up.

1452
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:45,517
You know, that I was
being manipulated

1453
01:10:45,551 --> 01:10:49,521
by the courts.

1454
01:10:49,555 --> 01:10:51,419
narrator: The big question is:

1455
01:10:51,454 --> 01:10:55,596
will Lake be brave enough
to testify?

1456
01:10:55,630 --> 01:10:58,978
- Snitches will be taken
care of.

1457
01:10:59,013 --> 01:11:01,222
- How?

1458
01:11:01,257 --> 01:11:02,810
-Oh, that's to be seen.

1459
01:11:02,844 --> 01:11:04,156
That's to be seen.

1460
01:11:07,055 --> 01:11:10,611
narrator: Still to come
on "Inside the Manson Cult,"

1461
01:11:10,645 --> 01:11:13,648
secretly filmed footage
of Manson in prison...

1462
01:11:13,683 --> 01:11:14,960
- We are sneaking

1463
01:11:14,994 --> 01:11:16,306
in the county jail.

1464
01:11:16,341 --> 01:11:19,654
Looking under the door
to see if the man is there.

1465
01:11:19,689 --> 01:11:22,070
- He's telling us
to break him out.

1466
01:11:22,105 --> 01:11:24,176
narrator: And an extraordinary
command

1467
01:11:24,210 --> 01:11:26,351
to young member of the cult:

1468
01:11:26,385 --> 01:11:28,111
Kill the judge.

1469
01:11:28,145 --> 01:11:31,356
- I felt my jaw drop

1470
01:11:31,390 --> 01:11:33,772
to the ground.

1471
01:11:42,781 --> 01:11:44,817
narrator: Charles Manson
is on trial

1472
01:11:44,852 --> 01:11:46,785
for multiple murders.

1473
01:11:46,819 --> 01:11:49,201
Teenage cult member
Dianne Lake

1474
01:11:49,235 --> 01:11:51,721
might be key
to convicting him

1475
01:11:51,755 --> 01:11:54,102
if she can escape his control.

1476
01:11:54,137 --> 01:11:56,657
- It was like he was
in my head.

1477
01:11:58,141 --> 01:12:00,074
narrator: A unique moment
from the lost tapes

1478
01:12:00,108 --> 01:12:03,457
shows just how hard
that's going to be.

1479
01:12:08,876 --> 01:12:11,603
Secretly, the filmmaker
smuggles a camera

1480
01:12:11,637 --> 01:12:13,329
into Manson's jail cell.

1481
01:12:16,297 --> 01:12:17,954
And the cult leader
takes his chance

1482
01:12:17,988 --> 01:12:20,370
to speak directly
to his followers.

1483
01:12:20,405 --> 01:12:23,166
- We are sneaking
in the county jail.

1484
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,963
Looking under the door
to see if the man is there.

1485
01:12:26,997 --> 01:12:28,896
Sneaking like little children
out of town.

1486
01:12:29,931 --> 01:12:31,139
Sneaking...

1487
01:12:31,174 --> 01:12:32,175
Sneaking all around

1488
01:12:32,209 --> 01:12:33,383
the courthouse.

1489
01:12:33,418 --> 01:12:34,557
- He's programming us.

1490
01:12:34,591 --> 01:12:36,835
Telling us what to do.

1491
01:12:36,869 --> 01:12:39,907
- Everything is sneaky
up around Sneakyville.

1492
01:12:41,287 --> 01:12:43,773
- He was telling us
to break him out

1493
01:12:43,807 --> 01:12:45,809
of jail.

1494
01:12:45,844 --> 01:12:47,604
To learn where the vents are,

1495
01:12:47,639 --> 01:12:49,917
learn how to get in and out
of the building

1496
01:12:49,951 --> 01:12:52,678
and learn how to set him free.

1497
01:12:52,713 --> 01:12:54,370
- You gotta sneak
to get to the truth.

1498
01:12:54,404 --> 01:12:55,992
The truth is condemned.

1499
01:12:56,026 --> 01:12:57,821
The truth is in
the gas chamber.

1500
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:04,725
- Manson had a very powerful
personality.

1501
01:13:04,759 --> 01:13:06,934
When he was in a room,
you could almost feel

1502
01:13:06,968 --> 01:13:10,144
the electricity
pouring off of him.

1503
01:13:10,178 --> 01:13:12,664
And he would kind of
command the room.

1504
01:13:15,667 --> 01:13:18,428
Manson one time
came into court,

1505
01:13:18,463 --> 01:13:20,188
and he had taken a razor blade

1506
01:13:20,223 --> 01:13:24,986
and put an X on his forehead.

1507
01:13:25,021 --> 01:13:28,887
And the next day, the girls
all had Xs on their foreheads.

1508
01:13:28,921 --> 01:13:31,890
They said they were going to
X themselves out of society.

1509
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,691
- Some of the behaviors
that the girls exhibited

1510
01:13:39,725 --> 01:13:42,418
during the trials
really was frightening.

1511
01:13:42,452 --> 01:13:45,628
Because you can see that
despite being back in reality

1512
01:13:45,662 --> 01:13:47,043
back in society,

1513
01:13:47,077 --> 01:13:50,771
they're still totally
under Charlie's spell.

1514
01:13:55,534 --> 01:13:57,881
narrator: The tapes show
how Manson's followers

1515
01:13:57,916 --> 01:13:59,745
may be ready
to threaten anyone

1516
01:13:59,780 --> 01:14:02,679
involved in the prosecution.

1517
01:14:02,714 --> 01:14:06,200
- Sandy, Brenda, Squeaky.

1518
01:14:06,234 --> 01:14:08,236
- Ask me a question.

1519
01:14:08,271 --> 01:14:10,963
- What if they execute
Charlie?

1520
01:14:10,998 --> 01:14:13,690
- Well, they'll have
to contend with us.

1521
01:14:13,725 --> 01:14:16,797
narrator: Just how far
the cult is prepared to go

1522
01:14:16,831 --> 01:14:18,868
is made frighteningly clear

1523
01:14:18,902 --> 01:14:22,527
to new member Aesop Aquarian.

1524
01:14:22,561 --> 01:14:25,633
- One of the girls
came up to me and said

1525
01:14:25,668 --> 01:14:27,842
"We've got to get Charlie out.

1526
01:14:27,877 --> 01:14:32,778
"We want you to," uh...

1527
01:14:32,813 --> 01:14:38,094
"To go the courthouse and...

1528
01:14:38,128 --> 01:14:40,406
Kill the judge."

1529
01:14:40,441 --> 01:14:46,067
I felt my jaw
drop to the ground.

1530
01:14:46,102 --> 01:14:48,656
"You want me to what?"

1531
01:14:48,691 --> 01:14:51,176
Said, "We want you
to kill the judge."

1532
01:14:51,210 --> 01:14:53,765
"That'll show them
that we're serious

1533
01:14:53,799 --> 01:14:55,387
and that'll get Charlie out."

1534
01:14:55,421 --> 01:14:59,184
"Are you for real?"

1535
01:14:59,218 --> 01:15:01,980
And she said, "Yeah."

1536
01:15:02,014 --> 01:15:03,499
My first thought was,

1537
01:15:03,533 --> 01:15:07,019
"What the hell
am I doing here?"

1538
01:15:07,054 --> 01:15:09,401
I don't think that was
the next day that I left

1539
01:15:09,435 --> 01:15:12,887
but it could have been.

1540
01:15:15,925 --> 01:15:20,343
♪

1541
01:15:20,377 --> 01:15:22,690
narrator: Manson's power
over his followers

1542
01:15:22,725 --> 01:15:26,004
may be giving Dianne Lake
second thoughts.

1543
01:15:28,869 --> 01:15:30,387
- It was terrifying,

1544
01:15:30,422 --> 01:15:33,667
the idea of going by the girls

1545
01:15:33,701 --> 01:15:37,015
and testifying against them.

1546
01:15:37,049 --> 01:15:38,741
And I was always afraid
that I was going to have

1547
01:15:38,775 --> 01:15:41,778
mind control by Charlie again.

1548
01:15:41,813 --> 01:15:43,159
That was a big fear.

1549
01:15:43,193 --> 01:15:47,163
And also that fear
of wanting that...

1550
01:15:47,197 --> 01:15:49,303
you know, that original feeling

1551
01:15:49,337 --> 01:15:51,650
of love and adoration from him.

1552
01:15:51,685 --> 01:15:53,790
I thought that was going
to be a weakness.

1553
01:15:57,622 --> 01:16:01,177
- The truth has not been
in your courtrooms.

1554
01:16:01,211 --> 01:16:04,042
Never has been
in your courtrooms.

1555
01:16:04,076 --> 01:16:07,666
All you have is confusion
in your courtroom.

1556
01:16:07,701 --> 01:16:09,565
- We went in, like,
the back door,

1557
01:16:09,599 --> 01:16:11,187
and there was still
a lot of press

1558
01:16:11,221 --> 01:16:13,327
but they kind of snuck me in.

1559
01:16:16,537 --> 01:16:18,815
- You can't prove anything

1560
01:16:18,850 --> 01:16:21,128
that happened yesterday.

1561
01:16:21,162 --> 01:16:25,063
Now is the only thing
that's real.

1562
01:16:25,097 --> 01:16:28,722
- The girls were outside
the Hall of Justice.

1563
01:16:28,756 --> 01:16:30,620
I was scared.

1564
01:16:35,418 --> 01:16:37,178
- We were on pins and needles.

1565
01:16:37,213 --> 01:16:40,285
We didn't know how the jury
was gonna respond

1566
01:16:40,319 --> 01:16:41,389
to Dianne Lake.

1567
01:16:41,424 --> 01:16:44,496
We felt that she had been
a great witness.

1568
01:16:44,530 --> 01:16:46,256
Believable, but...

1569
01:16:46,291 --> 01:16:48,914
she had spent eight months
in a mental hospital.

1570
01:16:48,949 --> 01:16:51,468
We didn't know what the jury
was going to do.

1571
01:16:55,024 --> 01:16:58,614
narrator: Still to come
on "Inside the Manson Cult"...

1572
01:16:58,648 --> 01:17:00,201
- He's waiting in a cage.

1573
01:17:00,236 --> 01:17:03,135
He's looking down like
I'm one of his disciples.

1574
01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:06,552
narrator: An astonishing
revelation...

1575
01:17:06,587 --> 01:17:09,590
- I don't believe Charlie
believed in Helter Skelter.

1576
01:17:09,625 --> 01:17:12,248
It was just a crazy story.

1577
01:17:20,705 --> 01:17:22,189
narrator: One of
Charles Manson's

1578
01:17:22,223 --> 01:17:23,673
earliest converts

1579
01:17:23,708 --> 01:17:25,986
has testified against
the man she loved.

1580
01:17:26,020 --> 01:17:27,435
- It was terrifying,

1581
01:17:27,470 --> 01:17:29,092
going by the girls

1582
01:17:29,127 --> 01:17:31,647
and testifying against them.

1583
01:17:31,681 --> 01:17:35,616
narrator: Time for the jury
to decide.

1584
01:17:35,651 --> 01:17:37,342
man: The jury,
hearing the charges

1585
01:17:37,376 --> 01:17:39,896
against Charles Manson
and three girl members

1586
01:17:39,931 --> 01:17:41,380
of his so-called Family

1587
01:17:41,415 --> 01:17:43,313
brought in its verdict
this afternoon.

1588
01:17:45,350 --> 01:17:48,525
All were found guilty
of murder in the first degree.

1589
01:17:49,872 --> 01:17:52,288
narrator: The trial
has lasted seven months

1590
01:17:52,322 --> 01:17:54,600
and is, at the time,
the most expensive

1591
01:17:54,635 --> 01:17:56,879
in U.S. criminal history.

1592
01:17:56,913 --> 01:18:00,952
The jury takes ten days
to reach a verdict.

1593
01:18:00,986 --> 01:18:03,437
man: Manson then shouted
at the jurors,

1594
01:18:03,471 --> 01:18:05,577
"You're all guilty!"

1595
01:18:14,379 --> 01:18:18,003
narrator: On Monday,
March 29, 1971,

1596
01:18:18,038 --> 01:18:20,454
Manson is sentenced to die

1597
01:18:20,488 --> 01:18:23,008
for the murder spree
that shocked the world.

1598
01:18:26,011 --> 01:18:27,875
Leslie Van Houten,

1599
01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:29,083
Susan Atkins,

1600
01:18:29,118 --> 01:18:30,464
and Patricia Krenwinkle

1601
01:18:30,498 --> 01:18:32,293
will also be given
the death sentence.

1602
01:18:34,882 --> 01:18:37,333
- I couldn't understand
how they could

1603
01:18:37,367 --> 01:18:39,404
be so happy

1604
01:18:39,438 --> 01:18:43,511
and cheerful when they were
facing the death penalty.

1605
01:18:43,546 --> 01:18:46,929
It would be years later
that I would see that look

1606
01:18:46,963 --> 01:18:49,345
in other eyes of cult followers

1607
01:18:49,379 --> 01:18:50,933
and I would realize

1608
01:18:50,967 --> 01:18:53,521
this is the way
that people look

1609
01:18:53,556 --> 01:18:55,696
when they're under
undue influence

1610
01:18:55,731 --> 01:18:58,734
and they're not thinking
for themselves.

1611
01:19:01,771 --> 01:19:07,846
♪

1612
01:19:07,881 --> 01:19:09,883
narrator: In 1972,

1613
01:19:09,917 --> 01:19:13,196
Charles Manson and his
three female accomplices

1614
01:19:13,231 --> 01:19:16,303
have their death sentences
commuted to life in prison

1615
01:19:16,337 --> 01:19:20,479
when California temporarily
abolishes the death penalty.

1616
01:19:20,514 --> 01:19:22,309
- After Charlie Manson

1617
01:19:22,343 --> 01:19:23,620
was locked away for life,

1618
01:19:23,655 --> 01:19:26,451
he became the most popular
prison inmate

1619
01:19:26,485 --> 01:19:27,901
in the United States

1620
01:19:27,935 --> 01:19:29,626
measured by the amount
of fan mail

1621
01:19:29,661 --> 01:19:30,869
that he received.

1622
01:19:34,666 --> 01:19:36,185
For a lot of young people,

1623
01:19:36,219 --> 01:19:38,497
he was like the ultimate
outlaw,

1624
01:19:38,532 --> 01:19:40,948
the counterculture icon...

1625
01:19:44,814 --> 01:19:47,472
And he continued to live on
in that sense

1626
01:19:47,506 --> 01:19:50,406
and continued to have
a cult following

1627
01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:54,755
in the broader population.

1628
01:19:54,790 --> 01:19:57,654
- I think within the
psychodrama of his own mind

1629
01:19:57,689 --> 01:19:59,864
Manson tapped into
this idea

1630
01:19:59,898 --> 01:20:04,144
of a fear of black-led
racial violence.

1631
01:20:04,178 --> 01:20:05,939
And I think that idea

1632
01:20:05,973 --> 01:20:07,837
was something that is a

1633
01:20:07,872 --> 01:20:09,563
carry-over from the '60s

1634
01:20:09,597 --> 01:20:12,600
even to this day.

1635
01:20:12,635 --> 01:20:15,258
- Charlie Manson wanted to be
rich and famous.

1636
01:20:15,293 --> 01:20:17,640
When he couldn't do it
in the music business,

1637
01:20:17,674 --> 01:20:20,850
he figured out another way
to be famous.

1638
01:20:20,885 --> 01:20:22,300
- Manson frequently said

1639
01:20:22,334 --> 01:20:25,199
he wanted to be bigger
than the Beatles.

1640
01:20:25,234 --> 01:20:26,407
And it could be argued

1641
01:20:26,442 --> 01:20:28,858
that he did have
even more of an impact

1642
01:20:28,893 --> 01:20:30,826
than the Beatles on our lives,

1643
01:20:30,860 --> 01:20:33,863
on American culture.

1644
01:20:33,898 --> 01:20:35,382
It did something to us.

1645
01:20:35,416 --> 01:20:38,730
We're no longer as free
and able to just...

1646
01:20:38,764 --> 01:20:40,801
think that we're safe
in our homes.

1647
01:20:40,836 --> 01:20:44,632
- Roll N-72, scene
four girls A, take one.

1648
01:20:44,667 --> 01:20:47,463
narrator: Over the years,
many of Manson's followers

1649
01:20:47,497 --> 01:20:50,052
remained devoted
to their Messiah.

1650
01:20:50,086 --> 01:20:52,226
- Again and again I've gotta
pay for your sins.

1651
01:20:52,261 --> 01:20:53,779
I've been laying up here
paying for your sins

1652
01:20:53,814 --> 01:20:57,197
for 2,000 years.

1653
01:20:57,231 --> 01:20:59,958
narrator: Others managed
to break free.

1654
01:20:59,993 --> 01:21:02,823
- Do I feel that
Charlie Manson conned me?

1655
01:21:02,858 --> 01:21:06,068
As time went on, absolutely.

1656
01:21:06,102 --> 01:21:09,588
Charlie had learned to be
a very good manipulator.

1657
01:21:09,623 --> 01:21:12,868
A shark, it will eat
whatever to survive.

1658
01:21:12,902 --> 01:21:16,906
And it will kill whatever
to survive.

1659
01:21:16,941 --> 01:21:19,909
- I lost some innocence
for sure.

1660
01:21:19,944 --> 01:21:21,428
But I--I survived

1661
01:21:21,462 --> 01:21:22,670
and I thrived,

1662
01:21:22,705 --> 01:21:25,881
and, um, I'm very thankful
for that.

1663
01:21:45,555 --> 01:21:47,385
narrator: In the space
of two years,

1664
01:21:47,419 --> 01:21:50,491
Manson brainwashed
dozens of followers

1665
01:21:50,526 --> 01:21:54,599
and even convinced some
to kill for him.

1666
01:21:54,633 --> 01:21:57,809
Behind it all
lay his twisted world view,

1667
01:21:57,843 --> 01:22:01,951
the Helter Skelter race war.

1668
01:22:01,986 --> 01:22:06,162
But did Manson ever truly
believe in this philosophy

1669
01:22:06,197 --> 01:22:08,026
or did he simply use it

1670
01:22:08,061 --> 01:22:12,375
to frighten and control
The Family?

1671
01:22:12,410 --> 01:22:14,377
In 1979,

1672
01:22:14,412 --> 01:22:16,966
when FBI profiler John Douglas

1673
01:22:17,001 --> 01:22:19,486
met Charles Manson in prison,

1674
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,454
they had a revealing exchange.

1675
01:22:22,489 --> 01:22:23,869
- He's waiting in a cage.

1676
01:22:23,904 --> 01:22:25,112
He's looking down,

1677
01:22:25,147 --> 01:22:27,804
he's looking down like
I'm one of his disciples.

1678
01:22:27,839 --> 01:22:29,082
Like, you know.

1679
01:22:29,116 --> 01:22:30,946
- You gotta sneak
to get to the truth.

1680
01:22:30,980 --> 01:22:32,568
The truth is condemned.

1681
01:22:32,602 --> 01:22:34,639
The truth
is in the gas chamber.

1682
01:22:34,673 --> 01:22:37,021
- At the end of the day,
I don't believe Charlie

1683
01:22:37,055 --> 01:22:39,264
believed in Helter Skelter

1684
01:22:39,299 --> 01:22:40,610
at all.

1685
01:22:40,645 --> 01:22:43,337
It was just a crazy story.

1686
01:22:43,372 --> 01:22:44,442
And I didn't believe it,

1687
01:22:44,476 --> 01:22:45,477
I told him he
didn't believe it,

1688
01:22:45,512 --> 01:22:46,927
and he laughed

1689
01:22:46,962 --> 01:22:50,379
when I told him, "I don't
believe your BS here, Charlie,

1690
01:22:50,413 --> 01:22:51,759
"Come on, man.

1691
01:22:51,794 --> 01:22:53,865
You're just into sex, drugs,
and rock and roll."

1692
01:22:56,764 --> 01:22:59,077
- And he was nodding his head,
he was smiling,

1693
01:22:59,112 --> 01:23:00,527
laughing, you know.

1694
01:23:00,561 --> 01:23:01,597
So.

1695
01:23:02,908 --> 01:23:05,670
- ♪ Pretty girl

1696
01:23:05,704 --> 01:23:10,571
♪ Pretty, pretty girl

1697
01:23:13,057 --> 01:23:16,681
♪ Cease to exist

1698
01:23:16,715 --> 01:23:22,687
♪ Just come and say
you love me ♪

1699
01:23:25,069 --> 01:23:29,245
♪ Give up your world

1700
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:35,424
♪ Come on, you could be

1701
01:23:35,458 --> 01:23:37,771
♪ I'm your kind

1702
01:23:37,805 --> 01:23:39,083
♪ Oh your kind

1703
01:23:39,117 --> 01:23:42,500
♪ And I can see

1704
01:23:42,534 --> 01:23:46,711
- Um, as far as
these things go, um...

1705
01:23:46,745 --> 01:23:48,402
You have to make love with it.

1706
01:23:49,093 --> 01:23:51,854
- ♪ Walk on, walk on

1707
01:23:51,888 --> 01:23:57,584
♪ I love you, pretty girl

1708
01:23:57,618 --> 01:24:00,828
♪ My life is yours

1709
01:24:00,863 --> 01:24:06,455
♪ And you can have my world

1710
01:24:06,489 --> 01:24:08,491
♪ Never had a lesson

1711
01:24:08,526 --> 01:24:11,218
♪ I ever learned

1712
01:24:11,253 --> 01:24:12,944
♪ But I know

1713
01:24:12,978 --> 01:24:14,532
♪ We all get our turn

1714
01:24:14,566 --> 01:24:17,190
♪ I love you

1715
01:24:17,224 --> 01:24:18,536
♪ Never learn

1716
01:24:18,570 --> 01:24:21,401
♪ Not to love you

1717
01:24:21,435 --> 01:24:23,679
♪ Submission is a gift

1718
01:24:23,713 --> 01:24:29,167
♪ Go on, give it
to your brother ♪

1719
01:24:29,202 --> 01:24:32,550
♪ Love and understanding

1720
01:24:32,584 --> 01:24:36,588
♪ Is for one another

1721
01:24:36,623 --> 01:24:38,418
♪ I'm your kind

1722
01:24:38,452 --> 01:24:40,247
♪ I'm your kind

1723
01:24:40,282 --> 01:24:44,044
♪ I'm your brother

1724
01:24:44,079 --> 01:24:45,701
♪ I never had a lesson

1725
01:24:45,735 --> 01:24:47,910
♪ I ever learned

1726
01:24:47,944 --> 01:24:49,739
♪ But I know we all

1727
01:24:49,774 --> 01:24:50,844
♪ Get our turn

1728
01:24:50,878 --> 01:24:53,674
♪ And I love you

1729
01:24:53,709 --> 01:24:54,882
♪ Never learn

1730
01:24:54,917 --> 01:24:57,471
♪ Not to love you

1731
01:24:57,506 --> 01:25:01,475
♪ Never learn
not to love you ♪

1732
01:25:01,510 --> 01:25:03,028
♪ Never learn

1733
01:25:03,063 --> 01:25:07,067
♪ Not to love you

1734
01:25:11,416 --> 01:25:13,073
Thanks for watching.

1735
01:25:13,108 --> 01:25:16,111
And here are a few more shows to check out from Fox.

1736
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,115
Buckle up, Buttercup.

1737
01:25:21,185 --> 01:25:24,015
It's real, and it
pulls people together.

1738
01:25:24,049 --> 01:25:26,500
♪ We're breaking waves♪

1739
01:25:26,535 --> 01:25:27,708
♪ Shooting stars♪

1740
01:25:27,743 --> 01:25:31,333
♪ We live for glory
not forever♪

1741
01:25:31,367 --> 01:25:32,403
Touchdown!

1742
01:25:32,437 --> 01:25:35,923
♪ Reach out♪

1743
01:25:35,958 --> 01:25:39,582
- ♪ Make this
right here right now♪

1744
01:25:39,617 --> 01:25:43,414
♪ Stand up♪

1745
01:25:43,448 --> 01:25:45,243
♪ Here right now♪

1746
01:25:45,278 --> 01:25:47,245
That sounds like fun.