*From idm-owner Sun Aug 1 20:14:09 1993 From: bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders) Date: Sun, 1 Aug 93 22:07:08 -0500 Subject: Can Dumb People Enjoy IDM, Too? Status: O*

(bSANDERS threads the squiggling earthworm onto the brass hook at the end of his nylon line)

Is the porpoise of intelligent dance music to give self-presumed intellectuals something to discuss? Or is the purpose to elevate the appreciation levels of the "proles on parade" (Buggles, 1980) Is intelligent dance music like animal crackers: Education that fulfills a basic food/sex/warmth drive simultaneously? Or is it like staring at a Paul Klee canvas, and trying to figure out what to marvel at. I think it's like the Paul Klee canvas, myself. Especially F.U.S.E. (which I love, though I'm not sure exactly why at times.) [Note: Paul Klee, to my knowledge, became famous for his extremely minimalistic abstract paintings that drew attention to the process of painting. Many of his canvasses are simply large areas of color, completely DEVOid of detail.]

I wish I'd had an I.D.M. group twelve years ago in college. We didn't even have computers!

I look forward to any responses.

Barry Sanders bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu 

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 3 04:57:16 1993 From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 04:53:21 -0700 Subject: Re: Can Dumb People Enjoy IDM, Too? Status: O*

>(bSANDERS threads the squiggling earthworm onto the brass hook at the end of >his nylon line)

You mean, not the wiggly worm? (303 fans unite!) ;)

>Is the porpoise of intelligent dance music to give self-presumed intellectuals >something to discuss? Or is the purpose to elevate the appreciation levels of >the "proles on parade" (Buggles, 1980)

Originally Fluid wanted to start a mailing list geared specifically towards Rephlex - and then a whole bumper crop of artists came out who were either doing things like the aphex twin, or taking elements of his style or attitude into other forms of dance music. There suddenly was a whole world of music that all became connected: ambient, trance, some hardcore, dub, etc. It felt appropriate that whatever mailing list focused on rephlex should also focus on these.

>Is intelligent dance music like animal crackers: Education that fulfills a >basic food/sex/warmth drive simultaneously?

The term "intelligent" was used primarily because of Warp's "Artificial Intelligence" series - it just seemed like a good way to describe a sound while leaving plenty of room open for interpretation and invention. The focus should be on music that is more than just bounce-up-and-down music... but even that to a point is a matter of perception.

Like all mailing lists, the topic of conversation is entirely up to the members. If you wanna talk about gabba, go ahead ;)

>Or is it like staring at a Paul >Klee canvas, and trying to figure out what to marvel at. I think it's like >the Paul Klee canvas, myself.

Yeah, me too :)

 Brian

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 3 05:12:51 1993 From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 93 8:12:47 EDT Subject: intelligent techno mentioned in village voice Status: O*

The latest Village Voice has a pullout section which includes a pretty good article on the history of techno, and he devotes several paragraphs to int.techno.. check it out. someone want to type it in? mike Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify

From idm-owner Tue Aug 3 06:37:10 1993 From: b <cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 14:36:55 +0100 (BST) Subject: techno terrorists Status: O

Well then. Here we are.

Here is a question:

Pseudo-names, akas, nom-de-ploms(spelling king!)... Does anyone else in the field of such music have any daft or weird names?

An essential element of being part of Rephlex is being christened with a whole range of tags (for all you graffiti luvers). For example:

Grant - IG88 - Acid sniper Rich - Too many to mention! Me - Pattern Avenger - Passage violator - big quee Paul - prototype 21 (twenty first century boy)

Just wondering...

............................................................................. ben middleton | pattern avenger | passage violator | rephlex interceptor | | the innovators | | tom (tin tin - e621 global communication), grant (acid sniper queen), j jon | lizzie + carla, ian + liz, hair (techno godess), christina + r, aphex + tha | matt (phew), john (woolly mammouth), ashiq, kim + chantel, yanka, ruth, e w | paul t, sven, samu, vidar, m+s posse, milton, link, intelligent dance music | sammie, sbex, g, kelly + andrew, paul n (prototype 21), jason + issie, bob! | smw (russ), nv, mjb, chris (sog), rwr, kt (peace), mp, laura, todd sines, t | fluid, brian, cindy, ys, susie, allison, djkc, kirk (art), dave (fatus cat) | ed andy ken (black dog), mike (kudos), mike dredd (!kosmik kommando), u-ziq | chris jeffs, synectics, rephlex, evolution, mangoes, spirit levels, *truro* |



*From idm-owner Tue Aug 3 09:40:16 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 93 09:41:45 PDT Subject: techno terrorists Status: O*

>Here is a question: > >Pseudo-names, akas, nom-de-ploms(spelling king!)... Does anyone else in the >field of such music have any daft or weird names?

i'm not into aliases. i don't think they serve any purpose. i did however use one on the ultraviolet catastrophe "trip (remixes)" single. you'll notice that on the "funk you very much" mix there is a credit:

live percussion & vibes by j.j.freckles & slim

j.j.freckles is of course jon jules williams (who has many freckles) and slim is me, cos i'm 5'9", 130 lbs. it was gavin hardkiss' idea, so i disclaim responsibility!

when we (the UVC) remixed front 242 for the latest issue of twitch, two of us were pretty unhappy with it and wanted our names removed. i suggested crediting it to "homer simpson & ned flanders" but the man in charge was having none of that.

i would only use an alias if i was unhappy with the material. otherwise, i like to have my real name attached to stuff that i'm proud of. so far, every UVC track published has had our real names on it for writing credit.

i have been trying, unsuccessfully so far, to sneak in a fake name that pete ashdown invented for a hilarious april fools joke two years ago. just as future sound of london like to use the bogus credit "engineered by yage" i am trying to promote the use of the bogus credit "engineered by buttmeat."

Jon Drukman jdrukman%dlsun87@us.oracle.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 3 09:58:22 1993 From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 10:56:56 -0600 (MDT) Subject: techno terrorists Status: O*

I sort of like aliases, especially in the manner that Jim Thirlwell uses them. As for DRN's original question, KLF certainly must be mentioned. There's also the incredible amount of Adams/Kahn/Jade permutations, but unfortunately, most of them suck.

A better question is how people come up with track names? Sometimes they fit, "Lake of Dreams" somehow does bring that imagery to mind (then again, so does "Infinite Wheel"), most of the time they just make you wonder.

> just as future sound of london like to use the bogus credit > "engineered by yage" i am trying to promote the use of the bogus > credit "engineered by buttmeat."

Nico Spewhole would be proud.

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 3 10:11:40 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Tue, 3 Aug 93 10:13:03 PDT Subject: techno terrorists Status: O*

>I sort of like aliases, especially in the manner that Jim Thirlwell uses them.

do you mean permutations on the "foetus" theme or frank watt, clint ruin, et al.

>As for DRN's original question, KLF certainly must be mentioned. There's also >the incredible amount of Adams/Kahn/Jade permutations, but unfortunately, most >of them suck.

future sound of london wins the prize as far as i know:

mental cube, yage, candese, fsol, metropolis, smart systems, indo tribe and probably a few others i've forgotten...

>A better question is how people come up with track names? Sometimes they fit, >"Lake of Dreams" somehow does bring that imagery to mind (then again, so does >"Infinite Wheel"), most of the time they just make you wonder.

there seems to be three possibilities:

1) if you've got a vocal sample in your track, name your song after it. (eg: "it's not my problem" by FSOL, "we are the music makers" by aphex twin, "i'm so high" by eden transmission) 2) if the song suggests a mood or place, use that as the name (eg: "lake of dreams", "pacific state", "the trip") 3) pick a random cool sounding phrase (eg: "three nudes in a purple garden")

personally, i try for #2, but usually fall back on #3. i've got a long sheet of song titles stored up for use in emergencies. i was going to try to name all my songs stuff from english lit studies (as i majored in english at university) but after naming six or so songs, i realized that i had no fucking idea which song was which weird name.

i don't know how the aphex twin can deal with all those bizarre names he makes up either. maybe he's got a better memory than i do. i had to make a crib sheet to help me out so when people asked me "what synth did you use on `metonymy'" i could remember which song that was.

Jon Drukman jdrukman%dlsun87@us.oracle.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 3 21:05:54 1993 From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 93 0:05:30 EDT Subject: Pseudonyms Status: O*

Now, I like to see people using their real names, but what if you have a really *boring* name? :) Full Brain _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 3 22:35:46 1993 From: s i n e w a v e <tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 93 1:35:41 EDT Subject: nicknames, etc. Status: O*

continuing the thread, this is my personal account of names and usage within the audio/visual realm

ars * stands for ambience recovery system, a name of a circuit in terrence thomas' "sound synthesis" paperback that added what he called "ambience" to a recording. sort of like reverb, but not altogether. for my purposes, it is the ambient/experimental side project of charles and myself from body release. we first started as just "ar", then we found this and thought it was fitting.

body release * body release, means to us as "releasing your body through the music heard in your mind." an old band member, mike szewczyk, came up with the name, and it sort of stuck. i don't personally think it always fits all the time, but who knows.

enhanced * enhanced is my personal stuff. it is not just my music, but also a personal tag for any visual modifications/creations. i tend to think of it as me not directly creating "everything," just kind of "enhancing" what pre-exists. although, if you hear or see my work, it really doesn't tend to look or sound like anything else before hand..by means of type/image manipulation and sound/sequence manipulation.

my theory in most everything is usually involving the combination of one piece of data/material and another. i frequently experiment converting video to audio signals, audio to video, back and forth loops, as well as gate to cv, cv to gate, audio to cv, cv to audio, audio to gate, gate to audio, etc. and in the macintosh arena, i also take data files to open them up as raw image files, and then i can also convert images to IFF files for sample playback on the mac. i i start with a series of simple loops (audio) and then see how i can convert those loops into different forms of data, etc. and generate either new sounds, or different sequences by using the exploration of chance and sheer luck. i guess that is how i program my 303. :]

as for song titles, i usually title them with an assortment of consanants and vowels, with punctuation that makes a visually pleasing word. this word is a product of what i get from my first impress of a song. i used to just make lists and lists of "possible" song titles, and i felt that this was too preformatted and not in conjunction with the music that was being made. which, coincidentally, was usually under the influence of the age-old sleep deprivation, and i think that i excel best in both visual and aural experiments when i am close to becoming really sleepy.

good night. see you.

sines -- ---- todd sines ---- tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu / analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ---- 384 e 17th ave columbus, oh 43201 * 614 299 9529 vm 614 523 7762 ---- analogue heaven * ars * body release * elemental * enhanced * sense/net

*From idm-owner Wed Aug 4 05:00:45 1993 From: drn <cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 1993 13:00:27 +0100 (BST) Subject: Frequencially defectual Status: O*

The following is a collection of short stories...

1 - Personal track naming for me is a nightmare... If I had my way - they would all be called Ben or me (pretentious - I know)... but then again I only write music for myself. (Only one other person has ever heard anything I have done). However, I am coming to the stage where a name is essential simply for identification purposes... I will see how long it takes (currently I only date all my music).

2 - Richard has a cynical / abusive / carefree naming convention. I suppose the sheer volume of music that he has written has lead to this... His earliest names are known already... analogue bubblebath, cordialotron, human rotation, squidge in my fridge, 2 u off wax iii, labia flaps... But later ones have gradually lost these naming conventions - he is now obliged to give tracks names! Most of the Rephlex material has neither a name nor an artist (only the EP name). This was done to stop people buying a record just because it is by artist X (although the number of people who collect AFX discographies is increasing).

3 - Grant and I produce ambulance / axident music - unreleasable but very experimental - nauseating... Names of these tracks are purely relational to the section of music, for example Drn's nasty potion, Naval mash, Air smash, Breakfast got lost in the freestyle (point 3 of Jon's post).

4 - My brother names all his tracks as selectively as possible - a combination of Todd's vowlic selection and mythological or cultural names. (One of his older EP's was based upon Japanese culture for instance, and his Ob-selon-minos is supposedly connected to a Greek god). But they are all very descriptive.

I think that this genre of music encompasses a similar style of techniques in the quest for track names. Will we see a return to classical conventions though? (Fuse's Allegro in E minor...).

Ben (the frequency defector)

............................................................................. ben middleton | pattern avenger | passage violator | rephlex interceptor | | the innovators | | tom (tin tin - e621 global communication), grant (acid sniper queen), j jon | lizzie + carla, ian + liz, hair (techno godess), christina + r, aphex + tha | matt (phew), john (woolly mammouth), ashiq, kim + chantel, yanka, ruth, e w | paul t, sven, samu, vidar, m+s posse, milton, link, intelligent dance music | sammie, sbex, g, kelly + andrew, paul n (prototype 21), jason + issie, bob! | smw (russ), nv, mjb, chris (sog), rwr, kt (peace), mp, laura, todd sines, t | fluid, brian, cindy, ys, susie, allison, djkc, kirk (art), dave (fatus cat) | ed andy ken (black dog), mike (kudos), mike dredd (!kosmik kommando), u-ziq | chris jeffs, synectics, rephlex, evolution, mangoes, spirit levels, *truro* |



*From idm-owner Wed Aug 4 05:10:13 1993 From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Aug 93 8:08:50 EDT Subject: Re: Frequencially defectual Status: O*

drn said- > 2 - Richard has a cynical / abusive / carefree naming convention. I suppose > the sheer volume of music that he has written has lead to this... His > earliest names are known already... analogue bubblebath, cordialotron, > human rotation, squidge in my fridge, 2 u off wax iii, labia flaps... > But later ones have gradually lost these naming conventions - he is > now obliged to give tracks names! Most of the Rephlex material has > neither a name nor an artist (only the EP name). This was done to stop > people buying a record just because it is by artist X (although the > number of people who collect AFX discographies is increasing).

and i'm sure you've noticed how freaked out people get over not having a track listing for AB3.. getting the list of numbers seems to satisfy them. perhaps this should be the topic of someone's next psychology paper. any psych majors out there?

mike

*From idm-owner Thu Aug 5 16:23:23 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry <brit@ravel.udel.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Aug 1993 19:00:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Frequencially defectual Status: O*

On Wed, 4 Aug 1993, Mike J. Brown wrote: > norty drn said- > > Most of the Rephlex material has neither a name nor an artist (only the > > EP name). This was done to stop people buying a record just because it is > > by artist X (although the number of people who collect AFX > > discographies is increasing).

If this is the case, how come both Universal Indicator EPs were stamped "Aphex Twin" when it appears that at least the blue one, maybe both, weren't done by him. Hmmmmm :)

-fLuId

 *From idm-owner Fri Aug 6 11:09:26 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 11:10:57 PDT Subject: two new things Status: O*

XDWombat Review #1

 Ultraviolet Catastrophe 721 Quintara San Francisco, CA 94116

- When in San Francisco, call the UVC at 415-6644-UVC. Why not. - Trying to find these releases? Try looking in a store, cheese! - Back issues are not available because there aren't any yet. - This is all my opinion, which is invariably correct, so don't argue. - BPMs? We don't need no stinking BPMs!

Amorphous Androgynous - Tales Of Ephedrina Quigley: CDEBV1 Liquid Insects Swab Mountain Goat In Mind Ephidrena Auto Pimp Fat Cat Pod Room

Oh my fucking god. That's all I can say.

This, in case you don't know, is the new full-length album from The Future Sound Of London and it is absolutely mind-blowing. I don't even know where to begin - words are pretty much pointless. I could reproduce the equipment list (they have four Akai S1100s, the bastards!) but why bother. One thing I like about FSOL is that their music is otherworldly and very abstract. When you listen to an acid trance track, it places you in a specific time and place, with a certain pool of mental images to draw on. But FSOL eschew most recognizable elements - there's a 909 kick every once in a while, but other than that, you've never heard anything like this. Even the 303s sound alien. There's a musical vision at work here that defies description - the pedestrian cover art is rather disappointing in this respect. What sort of visual image could you appropriately put with this music, anyway? A bastard child of Monet, Dali, Escher, Giger and Picasso perhaps. I can't go on about this disc any more - the second track has just started up in my headphones and my brain is quickly losing the ability to put one word after another.

300 out of 10. More than that. Infinity out of 10. Just get it. Pay whatever price is necessary. (Speaking of which, I got the import for $23.95 and found out almost immediately afterwards that there is a domestic issue on Caroline that lists for $13.99. Oh well, in this case, I don't mind... it's worth every penny.)

Various Artists - From Here To Tranquility Silent: SR 9336 Michael Mantra - Sonic Altar H20 - Undersea XKP - Heart Ov Thee Would Spice Barons - Spice Of God Space Time Continuum - 2 Pro1 The Heavenly Music Corporation - Reentry (Trip Edit) Artificial Paradise - Les Fleurs Du Mal The Dark Beautiful - Diaphanous Hyperdelicious - Tales Of Suspense Psychic TV - Coumpletion 4A

I was very excited to get this compilation, because I'm on it. So expect a little bias in this review.

Some very tranquil music here - most tracks are totally devoid of beat, which makes it sort of suspect for an "intelligent dance music" mailing list, but I think it would definitely appeal to IDM types in the mood for chill-out vibes. There *are* beats in here, but they are few and far between. My track has some pounding tribal drums but I don't know that you'd want to hear it on a dance floor!

Mostly this is beautiful atmospheric music to chill to, so get it and do it.

Oh, and harking back to this week's "pseudonym" discussion thread - I think I may have to adopt one out of necessity - they've spelled my name wrong AGAIN on the liner notes. Idiots!!

8/10. Packed full of floaty grooves, some just go on a little too long.

Jon Drukman jdrukman%dlsun87@us.oracle.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.

*From idm-owner Fri Aug 6 11:26:44 1993 From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 14:26:41 EDT Subject: FSOL Amorphous Status: O*

> - This is all my opinion, which is invariably correct, so don't argue. >... > Amorphous Androgynous - Tales Of Ephedrina >... > Oh my fucking god. That's all I can say. >... > absolutely mind-blowing. >... > words are pretty much pointless. >... > There's a musical vision at work here that defies description >... > The second track has just started up in my headphones and my brain is > quickly losing the ability to put one word after another. >... > 300 out of 10. More than that. Infinity out of 10. Just get it. > Pay whatever price is necessary.

Yeah, I agree, BUT this album is also almost entirely devoid of melodic content. Accelerator was better, IMHO. The few bits that are melodic are sampled -- i.e. Pod Room's main riff is right out of "Of These, Hope reprise)" by Peter Gabriel (and Petey does a much better job adding percussion to it than FSOL's bleeps and squawks).. and the main sample that repeats all the way through the dub track is from a Hawkwind album -- but the production and overall sound, the atmospheres they create, are all as great as you say and I recommend it to those who don't have it yet.

mike

*From idm-owner Fri Aug 6 11:39:40 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Fri, 6 Aug 93 11:41:11 PDT Subject: FSOL Amorphous Status: O*

mike j brown sez:

>> 300 out of 10. More than that. Infinity out of 10. Just get it. >> Pay whatever price is necessary. > >Yeah, I agree, BUT this album is also almost entirely devoid of melodic >content.

well, the lack of melody is what makes it so great. and anyway, there *are* melodies in there but they are very unconventional and hard to hear. take lots of drugs and listen to it again.

>Accelerator was better, IMHO.

accelerator is genius but it's way more "typical" in terms of song construction. i don't want to get into the whole "does art have to be innovative or does it have to be good" debate here though. Ephedrina is both. Accelerator is both, but it's not as innovative.

>The few bits that are melodic are sampled -- i.e. Pod Room's main >riff is right out of "Of These, Hope reprise)" by Peter Gabriel (and >Petey does a much better job adding percussion to it than FSOL's >bleeps and squawks)..

you mean "fat cat", not "pod room."

anyway, this did bother me a tad, but not enough to detract from the 300 out of 10 rating! i like the bleeps & squawks (and that weird female vocal sample that's so quiet it's practically subliminal.)

FSOL can do no wrong. Word up.

Jon Drukman jdrukman%dlsun87@us.oracle.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.

*From idm-owner Fri Aug 6 23:57:58 1993 From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Sat, 7 Aug 93 2:56:33 EDT Subject: Re: FSOL Amorphous Status: O*

i said: > >Yeah, I agree, BUT this album is also almost entirely devoid of melodic > >content. jon xdwombat said: > well, the lack of melody is what makes it so great. and anyway, there > *are* melodies in there but they are very unconventional and hard to > hear. take lots of drugs and listen to it again.

okay.

> accelerator is genius but it's way more "typical" in terms of song > construction. i don't want to get into the whole "does art have to be > innovative or does it have to be good" debate here though. Ephedrina > is both. Accelerator is both, but it's not as innovative.

right. i will agree that ephedrina is more innovative, while accelerator is more accessible. it is hard to hear something you expect to be richly orchestrated be stripped to near minimal, i guess. when they go from what they are doing now to something more melodic (though maybe not that much more 'typical'), they will be heard as being that much more innovative. that's my prediction.

seems like doing the fuzzy squawky bleepy music without much attention to melody and structure is considered for some reason to be intelligent. like all dance music you will see it get built up into a fuller, more vibrant, melodic form of music (progressive i.d.m.?) over time. it will still be called intelligent. just something to think about...

> you mean "fat cat", not "pod room."

fat room, cat pod, whatever. :)

mike Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify

*From idm-owner Mon Aug 9 10:35:45 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 10:36:49 PDT Subject: FSOL Amorphous Status: O*

mike brown writes:

>right. i will agree that ephedrina is more innovative, while accelerator >is more accessible. it is hard to hear something you expect to be richly >orchestrated be stripped to near minimal, i guess.

it *is* richly orchestrated... it's just that all the pieces fit together in weird and unexpected ways. it's a very *dissonant* record, and i think that dissonance is largely unexplored (at least to any *useful* extent) in dance music.

oh, and about that sample in the reggae track that you thought was from hawkwind... it's a preset sound on the korg wavestation called "20 second alien invasion" actually, so both groups swiped it :)

(we've got a wavestation and we're gonna use it. - new motto of The UVC.)

Jon Drukman jdrukman%dlsun87@us.oracle.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.

*From idm-owner Mon Aug 9 13:58:07 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 93 12:43:11 PDT Subject: IDM TIMES V1.2 Status: O*

INTELLIGENT DANCE MUSIC TIMES v1.2

Yes, 'tis me, XDWombat, your intrepid Intelligent Dance Music reporter, checking in yet again. this issue comes to you courtesy of my roommate's seemingly infinite-capacity wallet. In this issue, I tackle Orbital's 2nd, System 7's new single, Fortran 5's "bad head park" and a compilation of eurotrance. coming soon - comments on full length discs from hardfloor, sandoz and god knows what else...

Orbital - Orbital Internal TRUCD2

This album takes forever to get going! First you have 2 mins of Lt Worf from Star Trek doing his "theory of the moebius" shtick (yes, again) and then another minute of mucking around before the 2nd track "Planet Of The Shapes" finally gets into gear. Once it does, however, it's almost worth the wait. I especially like the indian motifs that show up later in the track. Unfortunately, interest wanes rapidly (OK, *my* interest waned rapidly - i know ashdown thinks this is god on a stick). The Lush-Impact-Remind suite just goes on and on and gets very tiresome very quickly. Walk Now... starts off promising with the digeridoo sample but goes nowhere fast. (As a side note, the digeridoo is fast becoming the Unbearable Cliche du Jour of dance music. digeridoo: just say no!) Monday is just plain annoying (as was its progenitor, Sunday). Fortunately, Halcyon+on+on saves the day, being just as beautiful and wondrous as its original.

Summary: Nice moments, but not enough. 6.5/10

System 7 - Sinbad/Quest Weird And Unconventional/Big Life BFLD 8

130 3:49 Sinbad (Bandit Edit) 125 8:30 Quest (Moody Boys Interpretation) 130 5:50 Sinbad (7th Voyage Of Sinbad) 125 6:43 Quest (Moon Mix)

Two mixes of each track. The first Sinbad mix is just an edit of the LP version and is thus utterly worthless (not even a clever edit, they just fade it out early.) The "7th Voyage" mix is substantially different, being mixed by Moody Boy Tony Thorpe. Very driving and filled with plenty of weird effects, this would cause widespread boogieing on a dance floor. If I ever decide to go back to spinning trance sets seriously, I would definitely buy the 12". Nice added 303 sprinkles above Hillage's slightly more aggro than usual guitar playing, stunning noise break... Good track!

The new song, "Quest" is treated to two versions: the "moon mix" and the "moody boys interpretation." The "moon mix" is a pure hillage/giraudy piece and is thus quite spacey (although there is a beat). Pure trance of the kind found on the "777" LP.

The Moody Boys Interpretation is a slightly harder take on the track, but is still very trancy. The whole disc, overall, is quite a spacy trip in fact - I listened to it while lying down last night and fell asleep before it ended!

Summary: some beautiful spacy trance stuff that will appeal to fans of "777" (you listening, ashdown!?)

Various Artists - Trancesylvania 23 Records CD 2

131 6:11 Sintox - In The Abyss (ends at 155 BPM) 140 5:34 Polygon Window - Quoth 140 6:26 Neurotrancer - Discorsi (XXL Remix) 150 5:44 Microbots - Flatline 150 5:20 4 Voice - Music Hypnotizes (Hypnotizing Mix) 150 4:35 Cop Killer - FF (Trance Collector's Edit) 152 5:12 Sabotage - Kayht 137 5:43 Illuminatus - Hope 136 7:41 Age - Eighth Sphere 147 3:48 2 Def DJs vs Mr Freeze - Trancespirit (Darkroom Remix) 132 4:52 In Vain - Refused Composition 130 4:36 Dolphin - Warrios Of The Rainbow (Eyes Of The Fire Mix)

134 5:43 Humate - Love Stimulation (lovemix by Paul van Dyk) 145 4:58 Eskimos & Egypt - State Of Surrender (Eurodobulous Remix) 122 6:59 Moby - Next Is The E (Synthe Mix) 143 4:23 Neurotrancer - Freedom 153 5:38 Escape - Escape To Mars 136 6:00 SDL - Space Traveler 148 5:30 Oxytozin - Sugar & Cinnamon (hardtrance mix) 147 6:47 Memorizer - Memory 142 6:49 Cop Killer - Freedom Of Speech 145 9:57 Psilocybin - Part 2 5:43 Illuminatus - Hope... revisited (dedicated to...)

Opening up with a remarkably pretty Joey Beltram piece, this is a smart compilation with a dumb fucking name. The aforementioned Beltram track starts off gothic and lovely and turns into a brainmelting pounding piece of hardcore at the end, which doesn't thrill me all that much. "Quoth" sucks, being all banging with no substance. "Discorsi" is excellent though, and is making me rethink my blind prejudice against tracks > 130 BPM. Ditto for "Flatline" although its 303-driven stomp is a little familiar. On the other hand, Cop Killer & Sabotage remind me exactly why I hated fast stuff to begin with. Thus it comes as something of a relief to move back into relatively slower climes with Illuminatus & Age, the latter of which reminds me of Giorgio Moroder, oddly enough. More typical acid stomp from 2 Def DJs, some very nice pounding hardtrance from In Vain, and Dolphin's attempt to update Tangerine Dream for the 90's round out disc 1.

Disc 2 starts out with what sounds like New Order, but is in fact Humate's uplifting trance. Moby's fine Synthe Mix of Next Is The E (a huge San Francisco rave hit, btw) is a welcome, if strange, item (122 BPM? it's practically chill music compared to the rest of this comp!). The breathing room doesn't last, cos it's back to 143 BPM and Neurotrancer's 2nd offering, which is also very fine - pretty and melodic, with no sign of that annoying resonant 909 thwomp that seems to characterize high-tempo music these days. Escape will jar the fillings out of your mouth (no, that's not a compliment, coming from me.) Other tracks I like on disc 2: SDL, Oxytozin, Memorizer, and finally, Psilocybin's epic of acid & orgasms.

Summary: geez, a LOT of music here! if you're into the hardtrance/acid thing, there's gotta be something in here that will appeal to you.

Fortran 5 - Bad Head Park Mute 9 61461-2

 1:13 Fortran 5 128 3:54 Persian Blues 125 3:37 Choppers 5:00 Heavy Clouds Building 139 4:32 Time To Dream 124 7:04 I'm an Organist 4:13 Outlaw Traffic 121 6:35 Our Little Village 123 3:39 Layla (Derek sings Derek) 1:34 Ken Livingstone 125 5:25 Hook A 123 7:03 Fire In The Sky 3:48 A Place Of Horror 96 11:24 Bad Head Park

Bad Head Park, in case you don't know, is an Intelligent Dance Music ((TM) (C) 1993 behlenfluid productions) concept album about the Gulf War. Hmmm, sounds a bit dated, but let's take an objective look at the music. What we find is this: Cute intro track, into the horrendous "Persian Blues." I feel physically ill even thinking about it. I'd like to say "fortunately, things get better from here" but that would be a lie. This disc is absolute crap from start to finish. ARGGGGHH! I never thought "Blues" was an incredible album but at least it was listenable - this is just pretentious self-indulgent twaddle and I'm sorry I'm even writing about it all because somebody might go out and pick it up just to see if "it's really as bad as all that." Well, it is. So there.

(OK, "Our Little Village" and "Fire In The Sky" aren't *that* bad, and "Layla" is good for a giggle, maybe, but that's it. Really, I mean it. Don't even check it out from curiosity - why waste your money on this when you could be buying "Tales of Ephedrina" instead?)

Whoo! There you have it. I'm all typed out and my thumb has callouses from running the BPM program. Tune in next time for more Intelligent Dance Music where our motto is: "If it doesn't make my pet gerbil Spanky shake his little rodent heiney, then it sucks."

Jon Drukman jdrukman%dlsun87@us.oracle.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 10 04:49:06 1993 From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 7:49:03 EDT Subject: Re: FSOL Amorphous Status: O*

XDGrouchy writes:

>it *is* richly orchestrated... it's just that all the pieces fit >together in weird and unexpected ways. it's a very *dissonant* >record, and i think that dissonance is largely unexplored (at least to >any *useful* extent) in dance music.

Is it still dance music if it is very dissonant?

>oh, and about that sample in the reggae track that you thought was >from hawkwind... it's a preset sound on the korg wavestation called >"20 second alien invasion" actually, so both groups swiped it :)

after listening to the hawkwind track again, i later discovered there was indeed no way it could have been sampled without other sounds bleeding through on top of what turns out to be the wavestation sample.

but.. a PRESET??!! Dougans & Cobain use PRESETS?!!! arrgh! my opinion of them just took a nosedive! :) Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 10 10:41:57 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 10:43:29 PDT Subject: IDM TIMES 1.3 Status: O*

INTELLIGENT DANCE MUSIC TIMES V1.3

XDWombat checking in again to beam some techno jammies straight into your brain. Digital dump THIS, baby. Note to those unfamiliar: if I say something is The Shit, this means that it is a GOOD thing.

Sandoz - Digital Lifeforms Touch TO:21

125 7:40 Armed Response 128 7:30 Chocolate Machine 121 8:01 Digital Lifeforms 124 6:54 Human Spirit 98 6:57 Drum Meditation 126 8:44 Limbo 133 8:24 Zombie Astral 126 6:44 Beam 120 7:49 Steel Tabernacle 121 9:11 White Darkness

Sandoz == Richard Kirk of Cabaret Voltaire. Now, I've never been a huge fan of CabVol's house music, but this is The Shit. Originally released as 3 separate 12" singles, it reminds me of Orbital or Black Dog, in that the tracks tend to spin around and around in loops, building up to big towers of geometric abstraction. However, it's way better than either of those groups because the sounds and melodies are a lot cooler. The Digital Lifeforms of the title are strange multi-legged affairs with snaky tentacles. They writhe sensuously on "Zombie Astral" or slink along with a sleazy house beat on "Drum Meditation." It's sort of techno-tribal-jazz-dub house, if you can imagine that. Really trancy and wonderful. 10/10.

Hardfloor - TB Resuscitation Harthouse HH CD 1

133 8:10 Lost In The Silverbox 128 8:15 Trancescript 146 4:41 Teebeestroica 140 7:47 Into The Nature 140 4:50 Brachalde Rontzdrate 125 8:56 Acperience 1 132 5:04 Drugoverlord (remix) 119 7:58 AM-Trip

"Dedicated to the inventor of the Roland TB-303" is says on the back, and it's not hard to see why. This album is basically nothing but 303 acid and (mainly) 909 drums. The songs are all pretty similar - they build and build, adding layers of 303 and 909 and the occasional extra synth until you've got a huge throbbing tower of power. This formula recurs with the main difference between tracks being the tempo. If you've heard Acperience 1, this is still the definitive statement, in my book, probably because I prefer medium-tempo stuff to the headbanging 140+ things. Acperience just grooves along at a nice pace until the snares come in and the thing explodes in an orgasmic frenzy of squirting 303 sounds. Quite a rush. "Drugoverlord" is actually kind of a change, having little in the way of 303, and having a more bouncy, swung beat. Pity it's not very interesting.

Summary: acid acid and more acid. 7/10.

Eat Static - Abduction Planet Dog BARK CD 001

132 7:21 Prana 136 6:29 Gulf Breeze 142 6:46 Kalika 118 8:39 Splitting World 134 6:41 Kinetic Flow 142 8:13 Forgotten Rites 102 7:56 Abduction 138 6:07 Intruder 130 6:29 Xenomorph 135 6:07 Inner Peace

I nearly shit a brick when this disc commenced with yet another sample of Terence McKenna. Please God, I prayed, cause all the recordings of this man's voice to be erased immediately. Fortunately, it was only a 3 second sample and there are NO MORE anywhere else on the disc! (Tim Leary, Gen P-Orridge, McKenna - if I never hear these voices on record ever again, I will be VERY happy.) Even more fortunately, the music on this disc is really incredible. "Prana" is a wonderful bouncy techno tune with some lovely analog squelches. "Abduction" is a gorgeous trip, with a long ambient intro leading into a memorable and pretty melody. This is quality stuff! One thing I should mention is that the songs actually *go places*! Yes, they have direction, rather than being 8 minutes worth of loops. Right on. And despite the prevalence of high tempi, the songs are absolutely NOT typical headbanging hardcore.

Summary: Solid album of intelligent listening music - danceable and highly melodic. 9/10.

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 10 12:17:36 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 93 12:19:09 PDT Subject: FSOL Amorphous Status: O*

mike brown asks:

>Is it still dance music if it is very dissonant?

i'd say yes. listen to (the big local hit) "Jump To My Beat" by The Wildchild Experience (that's the one with the Lisa Lisa "can you feel the beat" sample repeated ad nauseum) - very dancy, very dissonant (almost industrial!) Great track.

>but.. a PRESET??!! Dougans & Cobain use PRESETS?!!! >arrgh! my opinion of them just took a nosedive! :)

geez, chill out! the birdcall in "papua new guinea" is a hoary old cliche - it came on an emulator demo disk called "zen garden" and has shown up everywhere. check out tangerine dream.

the question is not "did they use a preset" but "did they use it well"? i hear wavestation presets over everything these days. the wavestation is a really excellent synthesizer and it comes with some really excellent sounds, so why not use them?

Jon Drukman jdrukman%dlsun87@us.oracle.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.

*From idm-owner Wed Aug 11 14:24:21 1993 From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 15:22:53 -0600 (MDT) Subject: William Orbit Status: O*

I received "Strange Cargo" this week, which is out on reprint and was dramatically surprised. I haven't had much of a taste for Orbit's stuff. Bassomatic was cool, but not all around fabulous, and Guerilla has more misses than hits for me. BUT THIS!! "Strange Cargo" has instrumentation of Stewart Copelandian proportions. Recorded in 1987, it seems to be free of all dance cliches and instead just rips the walls down with sound.

Has anyone purchases "Water From a Vine Leaf" or whatever his last single was? Is there anything else along the "Strange Cargo" lines?

*From idm-owner Wed Aug 11 15:55:47 1993 From: Christian Bartholdsson <chris@Lancelot.DoCS.UU.SE> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 93 00:55:41 +0200 Subject: Orbit Status: O*

>Has anyone purchases "Water From a Vine Leaf" or whatever his last single was? >Is there anything else along the "Strange Cargo" lines?

To me William Orbit sounds like he doesn't dare to take any chances and definitely hasn't got the guts to break any rules of how pop music is made. The music is too polished. It's like listening to a slightly more experiental version of Enigma. It's the kind of music you put on when your parents come to visit you.

- chris@minsk.docs.uu.se

*From idm-owner Wed Aug 11 16:07:54 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 93 16:06:23 PDT Subject: Orbit Status: O*

oh boy, arguing with christian! one of my 10 favorite things to do on the internet.... :)

>To me William Orbit sounds like he doesn't dare to take any chances and >definitely hasn't got the guts to break any rules of how pop music is made. >The music is too polished. It's like listening to a slightly more experiental >version of Enigma. >It's the kind of music you put on when your parents come to visit you.

come on! he's not nearly that awful. bass-o-matic is pretty damn cool, in fact. the guy has a lot of good ideas and a unique sound. he's got that one trick where he brings the loop points on a sample closer together until the sound becomes a shrill high pitched buzz, and then he brings the points out again... i love that.

true, he tends to work in the pop music area, but he's made some really excellent remixes - batman (turned a dreadful song into something pretty cool), s'express (the orbit mix of hey music lover is insane)... i'm sure there are others.

Jon Drukman jdrukman%dlsun87@us.oracle.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.

*From idm-owner Wed Aug 11 16:16:45 1993 From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1993 17:15:19 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Orbit Status: O*

Maybe my enthusiasm for "Strange Cargo" requires further explanation. Christian compares Orbit to Enigma, Drukman compared him to Tomita in a letter. Yes, possibly so, it certainly has its new-age elements, but SC1 was made in 1987. Before Enigma, but after the classic electronic age. It certainly is "safe" music, a friend compared it to Pink Floyd while I was listening to it.

I'm not sure if I would ever dump this on an unsuspecting crowd. If "Via Caliente" wasn't so slow, it would certain mix fodder, but I wouldn't dismiss the album just on that basis. It does sound like Floyd, it does sound like Copeland, it does sound like Gabriel. Unfortunately, I like all three of those artists.

*From idm-owner Wed Aug 11 16:25:45 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 93 16:27:12 PDT Subject: Orbit Status: O*

>Maybe my enthusiasm for "Strange Cargo" requires further explanation. >Christian compares Orbit to Enigma, Drukman compared him to Tomita in a >letter.

i said tangerine dream, not tomita.

/j/

*From idm-owner Wed Aug 11 21:42:11 1993 From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 93 0:42:05 EDT Subject: Re: Orbit Status: O*

so there *are* other people on this list besides me & jon! :)

jon said, regarding william orbit, > true, he tends to work in the pop music area, but he's made some > really excellent remixes - batman (turned a dreadful song into > something pretty cool), s'express (the orbit mix of hey music lover is > insane)... i'm sure there are others.

the first time i heard mr. orbit was in january 1989 when i was taping a top 40 hot mix show on the radio.. they played his remix of "now you're in heaven" by julian lennon and it blew me away. once i figured out you could buy these "hot mixes" on records it was one of the first ones i picked up. then i got another.. and another.. :)

other mixes by him that i can think of off the top of my head are: madonna - justify my love, 1 or 2 other more recent singles seal - the beginning erasure - supernature depeche mode - walking in my shoes and all kinds of stuff on his guerilla records label. there is a disc called guerilla grooves which is all produced by/played by/ or mixed by him. all of this stuff, though good, does have some annoyingly repetitive gimmicks which define this trademark "guerilla sound".. once you've heard one of his remixes you can pick out new ones right away. the bassomatic stuff that i've heard is in this genre.

on the other hand, the strange cargo album, with the exception of one song, sounds very different from his usual material. some of the tracks are funky and upbeat, others are totally moody and ambient. does anyone have strange cargo 2? how does it compare?

also - there is an old william orbit discography at cs.uwp.edu

ObIntelligence: William Orbit, even in 1988-89, was using some really neat tricks (like the loop-point-variation jon described) with sound, as well as putting out some mixes that were way ahead of their time in some respects. Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify

*From idm-owner Thu Aug 12 02:31:40 1993 From: Christian Bartholdsson <chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 93 11:31:33 +0200 Subject: ??? Status: O*

>oh boy, arguing with christian! one of my 10 favorite things to do on >the internet.... :)

It's funny how we like the same music but never the same songs... :-)

>true, he tends to work in the pop music area, but he's made some >really excellent remixes - batman (turned a dreadful song into >something pretty cool), s'express (the orbit mix of hey music lover is >insane)... i'm sure there are others.

I was talking about his solo albums. Some of his mixes are good, but when he tries to make songs from scratch they always follow one of his two formulas - The Funky Song or The Ambient Song.

Mike: >ObIntelligence: William Orbit, even in 1988-89, was using some really >neat tricks (like the loop-point-variation jon described) with sound, >as well as putting out some mixes that were way ahead of their time in >some respects.

Yes, every time he releases a solo record I get bombarded with press releases telling me how he invented ambient house. Maybe he did, but then he certainly didn't know what to do with it. I've always had the feeling that the man is a wimp. ;-)

- chris@minsk.docs.uu.se

*From idm-owner Thu Aug 12 15:48:06 1993 From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Aug 93 18:48:00 EDT Subject: XDCopycat Review #1 Status: O*

XDCopycat Review #1 (c) 1993 Iloveyou...Iloveyouall

In this issue: 152 Minutes 33 Seconds - A Brief History Of Ambient - Volume 1

Send me money. Mike Brown 120 Wickfield Rd Blacklick OH 43004-9624 USA

------------------------------------------------------------------------ 152 Minutes 33 Seconds - A Brief History Of Ambient - Volume 1 UK CD: Virgin Records AMBT 1

Disc 1 "AM - 76:40": 7:05 Harold Budd - Flowered Knife Shadows 9:46 Tangerine Dream - Thru Metamorphic Rock (edit) 7:31 Robert Fripp/Brian Eno - Evening Star 4:28 Amorphous Androgynous - Mountain Goat 3:50 Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan - Sea of Vapours 3:00 Hawkwind - The Forge of Vulcan 10:35 Killing Joke - Requiem (A Floating Leaf Always Reaches The Sea Dub Mix) 4:11 Brian Eno - An Ending (Ascent) 2:57 Richard Horowitz - Marnia's Tent 6:31 Irmin Schmidt/Bruno Spoerri - Rapido de Noir 5:34 Ashra - Kazoo 2:43 Harold Budd/Brian Eno - Their Memories 4:45 The Grid - Leave Your Body 3:38 Christopher Franke - Electric Becomes Eclectic

Disc 2 "BE - 75:40": 10:25 Tangerine Dream - Phaedra (edit) 3:23 Brian Eno/Jon Hassell - Delta Rain Dream 4:46 William Orbit - The Monkey King 1:04 Gong - Castle In The Clouds 1:39 Hawkwind - Life Form 9:08 Laraaji - The Dance #2 5:21 Sheila Chandra - Sacred Stones 4:42 Michael Brook - Earth Floor 3:12 Faust - Lauft...Heisst Das Es Lauft Oder Es Kommt Bald...Lauft 4:51 Jon Hassell - Gift Of Fire 3:36 Material - The End Of Words 9:36 Edgar Froese - Panorphelia 2:14 Roger Eno - Voices 7:21 Holger Czukay - Traum Mal Wieder 4:15 David Sylvian - Home

Comments: Guh. Guh. Wubba wubba. Tha Shit. Unngh. Music here from 1974 to 1993. All of it.. fantastic.. take Pete's reaction to Orbital 2, multiply it b y Jon's reaction to Tales Of Ephidrina, and you have a tiny fraction of what I am feeling about this compilation.. and this is only volume 1! There's more to co me! Disc 1 plays 76:43; the times listed add up to 76:34. Disc 2 is entirely mis-mastered, such that if you skip to the beginning of a track you will find yourself in the middle of the song you wanted, or the one before it, or the one after. Luckily the music is all there in the right order. It also clocks in a t 76:43, but the music ends at 75:52, and the times listed add up to 75:33. Go figure. No, don't. Go buy it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify

*From idm-owner Fri Aug 13 07:11:09 1993 From: TeeP <ARAN%MITVMC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 93 09:53:21 EDT Subject: autchere Status: O*

I was listening to my AI one (as i do just about once a day) and I keep getting floored by the two Autchere tracks Crystel and The Egg. Can anybody tell me what those two guys are doing today? I think one guys name is Sean Booth (anyone have their cover handy, i'm at work). Are they still making music, if so under what name/label. I've always had a sneaking suspicion that it was R. James. Check out the quoth rmx inside track Iketa (sp? Iteka) sound familiar? Sounds like a 92 version of Crystel. . .funny how they both slow to a stop. What do you Think? TeeP (oLoWoP/TerraPosse/Family Tree)

From idm-owner Sat Aug 14 10:02:58 1993 From: Dave Walker <marmoset@mail.msen.com> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 12:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Tranquility Bass, USA System 7/777 release info? Status: O

Two fairly unrelated questions:

What else have Tranquility Bass, who did the excellent "Mya Yadana" from _Excursions in Ambience_, done? Any albums or appearences on other comps, or work under different names?

Also, does anyone have a US release date for the second 777 (System 7) disc? And what the heck are they going to call it? Any name they give it will almost certainly confuse both US and UK collectors.

| Dave Walker, Detroit Art Services (DAS) -- marmoset@msen.com | | | | Without chemicals, life itself would be impossible. |



*From idm-owner Sat Aug 14 13:14:10 1993 From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 16:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Aphex keyboards Status: O*

Hi everybody,

i'm trying to figure what keyboard (or synth module or whatever) was used on the analog bubblebath 3. It sounds like a steeldrum without attack... kind of a surreal bleepy sound... Anybody knows what it is? I just simply love that instrument and i'd like to play it solo (just for fun)... maybe the rhodes piano of the 90's? :)

Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-...

 *From idm-owner Sat Aug 14 13:33:55 1993 From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 16:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Aphex keyboards Status: O*

Hi everybody,

i'm trying to figure what keyboard (or synth module or whatever) was used on the analog bubblebath 3. It sounds like a steeldrum without attack... kind of a surreal bleepy sound... Anybody knows what it is? I just simply love that instrument and i'd like to play it solo (just for fun)... maybe the rhodes piano of the 90's? :)

Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-...

 *From idm-owner Sat Aug 14 13:45:50 1993 From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 16:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Aphex keyboards Status: O*

Hi everybody,

i'm trying to figure what keyboard (or synth module or whatever) was used on the analog bubblebath 3. It sounds like a steeldrum without attack... kind of a surreal bleepy sound... Anybody knows what it is? I just simply love that instrument and i'd like to play it solo (just for fun)... maybe the rhodes piano of the 90's? :)

Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-...

 *From idm-owner Sat Aug 14 13:58:00 1993 From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 16:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Aphex keyboards Status: O*

Hi everybody,

i'm trying to figure what keyboard (or synth module or whatever) was used on the analog bubblebath 3. It sounds like a steeldrum without attack... kind of a surreal bleepy sound... Anybody knows what it is? I just simply love that instrument and i'd like to play it solo (just for fun)... maybe the rhodes piano of the 90's? :)

Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-...

 *From idm-owner Sat Aug 14 14:10:07 1993 From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 16:12:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Aphex keyboards Status: O*

Hi everybody,

i'm trying to figure what keyboard (or synth module or whatever) was used on the analog bubblebath 3. It sounds like a steeldrum without attack... kind of a surreal bleepy sound... Anybody knows what it is? I just simply love that instrument and i'd like to play it solo (just for fun)... maybe the rhodes piano of the 90's? :)

Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-...

 From idm-owner Sat Aug 14 15:17:16 1993 From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 15:17:12 -0700 Subject: Re: Aphex keyboards Status: O

Sorry about the bounced messages - it's fixed.

 Brian

(somehow "idm@techno" had been added to the alias - very odd)

From idm-owner Sat Aug 14 19:06:04 1993 From: kawakami@noc.usfca.edu (Sea Of Sin) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 19:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Aphex keyboards Status: O

heh what is up there was 5 copies of francois's message!!

cindy

*From idm-owner Sat Aug 14 20:30:20 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry <brit@ravel.udel.edu> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 23:24:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Some Aphex Status: O*

Well, I was lookin around around the store today and I found some Aphex that Im not quite sure about....any idea what this is? It has very minimal lableing but heres what i can make out:

Mighty Force Records A.The Aphex Twin B.The Aphex Twin with Schizophrenia

1. Analogue Bubblebath 1. En Trance To Exit 2. Isopropophlex 2. AFX2

Thanks :)

 _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ _ /,_) \ \ (_ ) ) ( ) _( (/ \\ ( (_ (_) ( (_( \) brit@ravel.udel.edu



*From idm-owner Sat Aug 14 20:53:30 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry <brit@ravel.udel.edu> Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1993 23:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: The Aphex Twin Status: O*

Got this from the August SELECT magazine. It has a nice picture of Richard surrounded by plugs, wires, keyboards, computers, and all kinds of electrical crap - doing one of his PA's.

"But whats supposed to be so great about a load of twats jumping around with guitars? Listen, I don't WANT people to be standing there looking at me. I want them listening to it and dancing. If it was up to me there'd be nothing on the stage at all, not even me, just fuckin' millions of strobes.."

"I'm not Richard Clayderman, I dont actually play in the normal sense. I have about 40 tracks running in the computers that I can choose from, to go into or come out of, and I concentrate on mixing and altering them, making it loads over the top. Thats the important bit, making it extreme. It's a piece of piss, but it's important."

 _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ _ /,_) \ \ (_ ) ) ( ) _( (/ \\ ( (_ (_) ( (_( \) brit@ravel.udel.edu



*From idm-owner Sat Aug 14 22:21:06 1993 From: s i n e w a v e <tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 93 1:20:59 EDT Subject: Re: Some Aphex Status: O*

fluid, i am quite surprised that you don't know what the fuck this is.

schizophrenia, is tom middleton. brother of guess who, ben middleton. our favorite net pattern avenger/innovator/modulator... and the koc, or king of cornwall.

as for the release you have picked up, i do so believe that it is an illegal re-release of the first version of the ab series, analogue bubblebath vol.1. the more breakbeatish track, en trance to exit, was with tom. that also occurs on volume 4, the CD.

i had to drop the record on my deck's pin to make a hole for it.. soo.

i bought it about two weeks ago. there has been another issuing of the alkaline/acid/base series. with mike dred on the blue. this time it is not reflex (get it...reflex blue is a color in standard printing.. ) but this was more of a cyan blue color. and the red wasn't as dark on the label, it was more of a magenta. i raise my brow. ;?



sines -- ---- todd sines ---- tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu / analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ---- 384 e 17th ave columbus, oh 43201 * 614 299 9529 vm 614 523 7762 ---- analogue heaven * ars * body release * elemental * enhanced * sense/net

*From idm-owner Sat Aug 14 22:38:24 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry <brit@ravel.udel.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1993 01:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Some Aphex Status: O*

On Sun, 15 Aug 1993, s i n e w a v e wrote:

> fluid, i am quite surprised that you don't know what the fuck this is. > schizophrenia, is tom middleton. brother of guess who, ben middleton. our > favorite net pattern avenger/innovator/modulator... and the koc, or king of > cornwall.

I know that!!!

> as for the release you have picked up, i do so believe that it is an illegal > re-release of the first version of the ab series, analogue bubblebath vol.1. > the more breakbeatish track, en trance to exit, was with tom. that also occurs > on volume 4, the CD.

Thats what I wanted to know..where this record appeared from. thanks anyway :P

-Fluid



*From idm-owner Sun Aug 15 07:44:46 1993 From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 93 10:44:43 EDT Subject: Re: Tranquility Bass, USA System 7/777 release info? Status: O*

> > Also, does anyone have a US release date for the second 777 (System 7) > disc? And what the heck are they going to call it? Any name they > give it will almost certainly confuse both US and UK collectors. > > | Dave Walker, Detroit Art Services (DAS) -- marmoset@msen.com |

steve hillage said on an american radio interview that the album would be called (you guessed it) "system 7" by 777 when it is released in the states. he didn't give a date though.

 Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify

*From idm-owner Sun Aug 15 16:24:18 1993 From: Andrew Thomas <athomas@orion.oac.uci.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 93 16:23:54 -0700 Subject: Re: Tranquility Bass, USA System 7/777 release info? Status: O*

>> What else have Tranquility Bass, who did the excellent "Mya Yadana" from >> _Excursions in Ambience_, done? Any albums or appearences on other >> comps, or work under different names?

 Tranquility Bass is the guys from exist dance records (LA). I think they have two 12"s, one is "They Came in Peace" on blue vinyl and the other one is .... I forgot, it's at home somewhere. I'm pretty sure most everything put out on exist dance is done by Mike Kandel and Tom Chasteen (who run the label), except for the new one by Freaky Chakra (which is, I think done by someone in SF). They've got a new cd comp. which should be out in the next week or so containing three Tranquility Bass tracks: They came in peace, Mya Yadonna, and a new one Cantamilla. Tranquility Bass is more ambientish than the other exist dance stuff, but most it is really good. Also a sequel to the excursions in ambience comp. should be coming out in the next couple months. Check 'em out...

 Andy

 ps.

*From idm-owner Mon Aug 16 01:39:21 1993 From: drn <cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 09:38:35 +0100 (BST) Subject: Shum Ayfacks Status: O*

Just one thing G told me... AB volume 1 is to be re-released anyway (don't think it will be on mighty force though...).

Too much sig...

............................................................................. ben middleton | pattern avenger | passage violator | frequency defector | rephlex interceptor | | the innovators | | tom (tin tin - e621 global communication), grant (acid sniper queen), j jon | lizzie + carla, ian + liz, hair (techno godess), christina + r, aphex + tha | matt (phew), john (woolly mammouth), ashiq, kim + chantel, yanka, ruth, e w | paul t, sven, samu, vidar, m+s posse, milton, link, intelligent dance music | sammie, sbex, g, kelly + andrew, paul n (prototype 21), jason + issie, bob! | smw (russ), nv, mjb, chris (sog), rwr, kt (peace), mp, laura, todd sines, t | fluid, brian, cindy, ys, susie, allison, djkc, kirk (art), dave (fatus cat) | bloo sqr, katrin b (the bphex twin), techno.stanford crew, manuel sepulvada | ed andy ken (black dog), mike (kudos), mike dredd (!kosmik kommando), u-ziq | chris jeffs, synectics, rephlex, evolution, mangoes, spirit levels, *truro* |



*From idm-owner Mon Aug 16 02:18:00 1993 From: drn <cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 10:17:05 +0100 (BST) Subject: Quazars Status: O*

Two things...

Firstly a gloat - we were lazer shooting at Quazars (Turnpike Lane) last Friday night with Richard James, Grant, Sam, Welly and Richie Hawtin. We were late getting in, and joined another group of geezers. Anyway, after the game (which we won by 600 points) this bloke started pushing Richie around saying that he had purposefully kicked him in the face whilst playing. Obviously this was a shock to Richie as he couldn't have done such a thing. I just felt it was a shame that it had to happen to him (giving him a bad impression of Londoners). Grant said something about this bloke having small genitals (which was salient). Even so - I think Richie enjoyed himself...

Secondly, the outcome of this was that a joint Rephlex / Plus-8 EP is in the pipeline... so watch out.

B

............................................................................. ben middleton | pattern avenger | passage violator | frequency defector | rephlex interceptor | | the innovators | | tom (tin tin - e621 global communication), grant (acid sniper queen), j jon | lizzie + carla, ian + liz, hair (techno godess), christina + r, aphex + tha | matt (phew), john (woolly mammouth), ashiq, kim + chantel, yanka, ruth, e w | paul t, sven, samu, vidar, m+s posse, milton, link, intelligent dance music | sammie, sbex, g, kelly + andrew, paul n (prototype 21), jason + issie, bob! | smw (russ), nv, mjb, chris (sog), rwr, kt (peace), mp, laura, todd sines, t | fluid, brian, cindy, ys, susie, allison, djkc, kirk (art), dave (fatus cat) | bloo sqr, katrin b (the bphex twin), techno.stanford crew, manuel sepulvada | ed andy ken (black dog), mike (kudos), mike dredd (!kosmik kommando), u-ziq | chris jeffs, synectics, rephlex, evolution, mangoes, spirit levels, *truro* |



*From idm-owner Mon Aug 16 03:03:14 1993 From: Steve Marshall <S.Marshall@swansea.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 11:02:56 GMT0BST Subject: GOL & APL Status: O*

Can anyone give me any information about these groups G.O.L and APL, as featured on the ambient dub volume II compilation. I want more of this stuff, but haven't been able to find any albums, or in fact anything at all....

Steve __ Steve Marshall email: S.Marshall@uk.ac.swansea work: U.C. Swansea Computer Centre home: 466 Gower Road Singleton Park Killay Swansea Swansea Phone: 0792 295166 Phone: 0792 290201 --==-*

*From idm-owner Mon Aug 16 06:32:07 1993 From: Terre Thaemlitz <Terre_Thaemlitz@qmcumc.mail.cornell.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1993 09:35:59 -0500 Subject: More samples for the master list.... Status: O*

this time they're for the bottom "not orb, but ambient" section of the list...

Irresistible Force: Sky High The main sample is a steel guitar sounding riff from Kraftwerk's Pinapple Symphonie (that was the obvious one). The more obscure "Has Touched The Sky" is from the final chorus of "Who Has Touched The Sky" by Anita Kerr and Rod McKuen, off of "The Sky" album.

BTW: The whole series of "Earth" albums by Rod and Anita are fabulous orchestral ambient with tragic poetry reading overdubbed, and they can be found at every used record store or flea market in the US, so you might want to check them out if you don't have them already (I grew up with them ;) The entire series is "The Earth", "The Sea", "The Sky" and "Home to the Sea", but be warned that "The Earth" has Rod reading his own poetry (whiney voice) while the other albums have a deep marketable voice doing the reading.

TERRE_THAEMLITZ@QMCUMC.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU

 | ( ( ( o ) ) ) | | I'm the transmitter - give information. |X| You're the antenna, catching vibrations. |X| -Kraftwerk |X| |X| _|X|_

 *From idm-owner Tue Aug 17 07:53:55 1993 From: "Chris.Hilker" <cspot@cats.ucsc.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 07:53:49 +45722824 Subject: Orbital/B12 Status: O*

Just got off the phone with ILS in New York. They will NOT be releasing Orbital's "Lush 3" on CD single. They have already released vinyl and cassette. Sheesh, and I was hoping for bonus tracks.

On another note, the TVT US release of B12's 'Electro-Soma' (great album, incidentally, if you like Kraftwerk and Detroit-type stuff) has one or two asterisks after most titles in the track listing, but no explanation. I assume that there was a legend of some sort on the original Warp UK release. Would somebody share?

And thirdly, I haven't got 'Artificial Intelligence' (the compilation) yet - I know, the shame of it all - so I've been assuming that the "extra" track on the US 'Electro-Soma' is "Premonition" from AI, based on the length of the track. Confirmation? In case anyone with the US version hasn't noticed, the track listing is a bit off, with "Debris" and "Telefon 529" switching places and "Premonition" (if that's what it is) inserted between them.

C.

-- hilker!chris (cspot@cats.ucsc.edu)

"My home is Vulcan and everybody likes me there and they don't call me freak." Life is fair. There, I said it. If anyone asks, you can tell them I did.

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 17 09:04:49 1993 From: Terre Thaemlitz <Terre_Thaemlitz@qmcumc.mail.cornell.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 12:08:38 -0500 Subject: Electric Lounge Machine (NY Ambient Nights) Status: O*

Hi,

Time again for the weekly NY Orblist hangout to happen.. :)

Ambient Wednesday nights at 432 W. 14th St., Manhattan (west of 9th ave.) have been continued through August. The doors are now opening at 10pm (rather than 11pm). Cover is $5. Prime DJ's John Hall and Adam Goldstone as usual. If you wish to attend, send me e-mail so I can try to get you on a comp list. (Those who have been on my list in the past are still covered.)

Get ready for next week in particular (8/25/93), as yours truly takes the wheels of steel while mixing in my own tracks. Hopefully to become a regular feature ;)

Hope to see you there tomorrow and beyond!!!

-tt

 _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ /,_) \ \ (/ \\ \)

 *From idm-owner Tue Aug 17 09:18:10 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry <brit@ravel.udel.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 12:10:30 -0400 (EDT) Subject: AirFix Twin Status: O*

I know many of you already know this but i'll type it in anyway, just for posterity.

 The Aphex Twin has signed a worldwide six album deal with acclaimed sheffield dance label Warp Records. The first release will be the Twin's `Selected Ambient works 2' triple LP, which has been put back to November. A single will be released in conjunction with the album and details of an extensive tour are expected in coming weeks. The deal covers the world apart from the USA and the Far East, where warp are licensing recordings to Sire Records. It will also leave the Twin free to continue releasing his more experimental projects under numerous guises (including Polygon Window, Sine Bubble and AFX) through his own Rephlex label.

 _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ _ /,_) \ \ (_ ) ) ( ) _( (/ \\ ( (_ (_) ( (_( \) brit@ravel.udel.edu



*From idm-owner Tue Aug 17 09:26:14 1993 From: pashdown@slack.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1993 10:26:00 -0600 (MDT) Subject: AirFix Twin Status: O*

> The first release will be the Twin's `Selected Ambient works 2' triple > LP, which has been put back to November. A single will be released in > conjunction with the album and details of an extensive tour are expected > in coming weeks.

Two words: Midi Circus

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 17 09:44:44 1993 From: WILL-E <perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 12:44:31 EDT Subject: Re: Orbital/B12 Status: O*

> On another note, the TVT US release of B12's 'Electro-Soma' (great album, > incidentally, if you like Kraftwerk and Detroit-type stuff) has one or > two asterisks after most titles in the track listing, but no explanation. > I assume that there was a legend of some sort on the original Warp UK > release. Would somebody share?

P [with a circle around the P] 1993 * (P) 1992 ** (P) 1991 B12 Records.

WILL-E

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 17 09:49:44 1993 From: TeeP <ARAN%MITVMC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 12:44:20 EDT Subject: AirFix Status: O*

one word and two characters "TRIPLE L.P."

time to pull out the old belt drive tables and line them up for the Selected Ambient five channel mega mix. . . hyper diaper dope! bring it on R.J. bring it

 TeeP

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 17 09:55:54 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 09:57:16 PDT Subject: Tranquility Bass, USA System 7/777 release info? Status: O*

andrew thomas hypothesizes:

>Tranquility Bass is the guys from exist dance records (LA).

right.

>I think they have two 12"s,

wrong.

>one is "They Came in Peace" on blue vinyl and the other one is .... I >forgot, it's at home somewhere.

there is no second 12". and "they came in peace" has been deleted now anyway.

>I'm pretty sure most everything put out on exist dance is done by >Mike Kandel and Tom Chasteen (who run the label),

more or less. mike does most of the music. tom is more in the business side of things, although he is quite an excellent DJ and does the scratch work that you hear on ED releases - the scratches in Mya Yadana, for instance...

>except for the new one by Freaky Chakra (which is, I think done by >someone in SF).

daum bentley, who is from marin, not SF, but that's OK, we love him just the same.

>They've got a new cd comp. which should be out in the next week or so

"Transmitting From Heaven"

>containing three Tranquility Bass tracks: They came in peace, Mya >Yadonna, and a new one Cantamilla. Tranquility Bass is more >ambientish than the other exist dance stuff, but most it is really >good.

yup.

Jon Drukman jdrukman%dlsun87@us.oracle.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 17 10:17:05 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 93 10:18:33 PDT Subject: XDCopycat Review #1 Status: O*

mike brown gushes:

>Disc 1 plays 76:43; the times listed add up to 76:34.

you didn't count the spaces in between the tracks.

>Disc 2 is >entirely mis-mastered, such that if you skip to the beginning of a >track you will find yourself in the middle of the song you wanted, or >the one before it, or the one after.

yuck. any pattern or totally random?

sounds like a good comp. i'll be looking for it.

/j/

*From idm-owner Wed Aug 18 00:14:37 1993 From: "Chris.Hilker" <cspot@cats.ucsc.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 93 00:14:27 +45722824 Subject: Happy Birthday... Status: O*

to Richard D. James. He turns 22 today, no?

C.

-- hilker!chris (cspot@cats.ucsc.edu)

"My home is Vulcan and everybody likes me there and they don't call me freak." Life is fair. There, I said it. If anyone asks, you can tell them I did.

From idm-owner Wed Aug 18 08:19:59 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry <brit@ravel.udel.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 11:06:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MR APHEX Status: O

Yes Indeed. What a special day it is, Richard James is 22 years old today. So, how may I celebrate this fantastic occasion I here you ask. The answer is simple - put on the AB3 track(s) named with his birthdate (0180871), turn it up as loud as it will go, and listen hard and long. Repeat this hourly until midnight tonight or until bleeding occurs. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ _ /,_) \ \ (_ ) ) ( ) _( (/ \\ ( (_ (_) ( (_( \) brit@ravel.udel.edu



*From idm-owner Wed Aug 18 09:34:01 1993 From: TeeP <ARAN%MITVMC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 93 12:10:58 EDT Subject: R.J. Day Status: O*

let's just come right out and declare today Aphex Day birthdays are the most important of all holidays

there is a definite need to celebrate. . .

how about if everyone on the list posts their all time top R.J. project. . . i'd like to compile the results and put em into the TerraPosse Rag the SyndromE

two considerations. . . if you think this is a bad idea. . .(for whatever reason, volume, etc) post up quick. . .maybe we can all hold off till 2pm (EST) to allow for dis/approval?

also this should give people time to rack their brain and come up with a choice

add the words "Happy Birthday Richard James" to each post. . .and maybe the person who shot lasers with R.J. (sorry forgot your id) could get a hardcopy to him and we'll be off the hook for a birthday present! cheers. . .TeeP

*From idm-owner Wed Aug 18 09:41:15 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 93 09:42:51 PDT Subject: R.J. Day Status: O*

i was in boston and had the opportunity to pick up the domestic version of Polygon Window's "Surfing On Sine Waves" for a bargain price so I decided to risk it. very nice. i like everything on it except "quoth." so why did they make that the single!? sigh...

happy b-day richard.

Jon Drukman jdrukman%dlsun87@us.oracle.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.

*From idm-owner Wed Aug 18 09:57:02 1993 From: TeeP <ARAN%MITVMC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 93 12:53:37 EDT Subject: quoth Status: O*

ah yes quoth is hard for some. . .but give the two inner tracks on the quoth single a listen. . .iketa and bike pump meets bucket. . .brilliant stuff there TeeP

*From idm-owner Thu Aug 19 15:18:20 1993 From: WILL-E <perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 93 18:18:11 EDT Subject: Heavenly Music Corporation Status: O*

I don't remember where on the net I heard about this but I picked it up the other day and I have to post about it.

the heavenly music corporation: _in a garden of eden_ 49 minutes long, on Silent Records (the same ones who put out the _50 Years of Sunshine_ compilation double CD) [catalog # SR9335]

First of all, heavenly music corp. is the name of a song by Brian Eno & Robert Fripp off the album No Pussyfooting.

Looking at the sleeve, I noticed: "this cd was created for the space age lounge, a technomystical chill room in goa, india..." and "please note that sublingual hypgnosis techniques are used on this cd in order to induce a theta state in the listener's brain/please do not operate heavy machinery or drive a motor vehicle while listening to this cd..." It also credits genesis p-orridge as a "constant source of inspiration" which means I *had* to hear it. This explains the theta state part. G.P'O along with William Burroughs are big advocates of inducing the theta state by using a dream or brain machine as invented by the French surrealist artist Brion Gysin. It's what you want to achieve with meditation sometimes.

All titles written & mixed by kim cascone. Does anyone know who this is?

1. cloud structure silence (5:07): starts out with a loud rooster call a la orb. Very ethereal and ambient. Sounds of farm animals thrown in. 2. the quiet mind (4:42): totally spaceous sounding! Try listening to this one in an altered state of mind! 3. ambient to be here (8:05): a bit more electronic sounding (like a FAX ambient track) with what I think is the sound of a crackling fire in the background. 4. dawn chorus (5:25): birds chirpping and trancey electronic ambient bliss 5. beautiful dream (5:01): samples of dolphins, a woman talking about a dream, someone jumping into a pool, and a beat! 6. in a garden of eden (14:07): the beat kicks in about 5 minutes in and this track has a more eastern sound to it. 7. reentry (6:59): digeridoo samples & a 303!!! talk about trendy...

In my honest opinion, this is one of the more brilliant pieces of ambient music I've heard in a long time. Too bad it hasn't come out on vinyl. I posted to a select few to keep this little jewel were I found it; underground!

enjoy! WILL-E

*From idm-owner Thu Aug 19 15:30:35 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 93 15:31:55 PDT Subject: Heavenly Music Corporation Status: O*

will-e says:

>the heavenly music corporation: _in a garden of eden_ >All titles written & mixed by kim cascone. Does anyone know who this is?

yeah, he's the president/owner of Silent Records. he used to do stuff under the name Poison Gas Research.

>7. reentry (6:59): digeridoo samples & a 303!!! talk about trendy...

uh, that's a real digeridoo, actually. check the credits. steve roach played it. (steve is a fixture in the new age scene and he's done some very brilliant things. my favorite is a disc he did with robert rich called "soma".)

>In my honest opinion, this is one of the more brilliant pieces of ambient >music I've heard in a long time. Too bad it hasn't come out on vinyl. >I posted to a select few to keep this little jewel were I found it; >underground!

there are two pieces from Kim on the new Silent compilation "From Here To Tranquility". one is an edit of "re-entry" and the other is called "spice of god". the other good reason to check out FHTT is because i'm on it, of course.

Jon Drukman jdrukman%dlsun87@us.oracle.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.

*From idm-owner Fri Aug 20 01:47:01 1993 From: moddan@aol.com Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 04:39:25 EDT Subject: Quoth Status: O*

I must know... does no one else enjoy Quoth??

- Dan

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*From idm-owner Fri Aug 20 06:19:38 1993 From: Dave Walker <marmoset@mail.msen.com> Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 09:17:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Quoth Status: O*

On Fri, 20 Aug 1993 moddan@aol.com wrote:

> I must know... does no one else enjoy Quoth?? > > - Dan >

_Quoth_ is one of those tracks that seems to provoke extreme opinion -- one either loves it or hates it. I'm in the former camp myself, being a devotee of the sacred minimal thump. :-)

| Dave Walker, Detroit Art Services (DAS) | | "I don't read, I just guess" | | marmoset@msen.com -Happy Mondays, "Wrote For Luck" |



*From idm-owner Fri Aug 20 20:10:17 1993 From: sbranson@sdcc13.UCSD.EDU (Apollo) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 93 20:10:14 PDT Subject: ambient update Status: O*

Here's some stuff I picked up recently that I thought I should share...some it may have already been mentioned, but in case you missed it:

Ambient Dub Volume 3: Aqua.A compilation album from Beyond (RBAD CD 4)

0/1. Higher Intelligence Agency: Delta 0/2. Groove Corporation: Roots COntroller 0/3. Banco De Gaia: Desert Wind (remixed by Original Rockers) 0/4. A.P.L.: Hypnosystem 0/5. Groove Corporation: Your Heart 0/6. Original Rockers: Mecca of Space 0/7. ANother Fine Day: WIld Spirit of Song 0/8. Digital Jesus: Menali Encounter 0/9. Banco De Gaia: Sheesha 1/0. Insanity Sect: Choctaw Ridge

---what can i say? It's great, spacey, dubby, even better than #2!

Chill Out or Die: L'utilisation de la chapeau chill (RSN CD 8)

0/1. Sequential: The Mission 0/2. Irresistable Force: Space is the Place 0/3. Pulsation: Pulsar 0/4. Ongaku: Mihon 0/5. Barbarella: Barbarella (IF Mix) 0/6. Rising high Collective: No Deeper Love (IF Mix) 0/7. Earth Leakage Trip: The Awakening 0/8. Bedouin Ascent: Treading the Earth 0/9. Dr. Motte: Euphorhythm 1/0. Friends, Lovers and Family: The Seaside

---great chill out tracks, mixed together for your listening pleasure, from the guys ar Rising High

Peter Namlock and Dr. Atmo: Silence (RSN LP/CD 7)

0/1. Omid/Hope (21.51) 0/2. Garden of Dreams (22.24) 0/3. Santur (9.49) 0/4. Trip (20.08)

--- also on Rising High, reminiscent of older Electronic Mind Music (Like eno, schulze, etc.) spacey pads, slow growth, some dissonance but pretty darn ambient altogther

Bandulu: Guidance (INF 003LP)

0/1. Guidance 0/2. Messenger 0/3. Revelation 0/4. Pacekeeper 0/5. Earth 6 0/6. Gravity Pull 0/7. Flex 0/8. Better Nation (Carl Craig innerzone mix) 0/9. Invaders 1/0. Tribal Reign

--- a little bit of everything, ambient and a lot of dancey stuff. Collest part is the LP is double and on clear vinyl.

Brian Eno: Neroli (no cat#, don't have it with me!!)

1/0. Neroli (54.25)

--- way out, back to the roots, verrrry mellow, slow build, few sounds, and really, really ambient

Apollo: Heaven on Earth 12" (yep, that's me!!)

0/1. Heaven on Earth (mak mix) 0/2. Away (dsc mix) 0/3. Oh My Love (ambient mix)

--- out on September 15 on Silent Records, My first 12" featuring two progressive tracks plus a fifteen minute ambient track on side B. Watch for it (I know, shameless self promotion!!)

That's it for now, so chill out.

Over and <beep> out

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*From idm-owner Sun Aug 22 12:35:58 1993 From: "Chris.Hilker" <cspot@cats.ucsc.edu> Date: Sun, 22 Aug 93 12:35:52 +45722824 Subject: Original Source of "Mountain Goat" Beat? Status: O*

Recently a friend and I were discussing 'Tales of Ephedrena' (which btw is superb) and he referred to "Mountain Goat" as "the song with the Banshees sample." What he meant to imply was that the beat in that track is sampled from "Kiss Them for Me," the Siouxsie track. But I'm sure that beat didn't originate with "Kiss Them," because Big Audio Dynamite used it on "All Mink and No Manners," on 'Megatop Phoenix,' which came out in '89.

So my question is, where did this beat actually originate? It's got a sort of a shuffly scratching sound, if you aren't sure what I'm talking about.

C.

-- hilker!chris (cspot@cats.ucsc.edu)

"My home is Vulcan and everybody likes me there and they don't call me freak." Life is fair. There, I said it. If anyone asks, you can tell them I did.

*From idm-owner Mon Aug 23 06:16:33 1993 From: TeeP <ARAN%MITVMC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> Date: Mon, 23 Aug 93 08:46:24 EDT Subject: C-Spots ? Status: O*

if i remember the Sioux track correctly. . .sounds like an old Schooly D track the name escapes me right now. . .psk?. . .doubt any idm'ers will know though i'd like to be proven wrong. . . Q |]{[ appreciate all styles. . . TeeP Q

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 24 08:48:11 1993 From: Terre Thaemlitz <Terre_Thaemlitz@qmcumc.mail.cornell.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 11:52:06 -0500 Subject: reviews Status: O*

hey, here are some brief reviews of stuff I picked up yesterday

Arena: "Calor" HPFRecords, Brussel 1993 pseudo-italo-calypso house with overdubbing of spanish. the main riff is a synth-spanish guitar sound, not really jazzy. more programmed. but definitely a good-vibes groove. "check it out"

Nu Yorikan Soul (Masters at Work): "The Nervous Track" Nervous Records NY 1993 definitely the best thing Masters at Work has done in ages. Hot latin house with a jazzy sax. definitely fierce. "get it"

Ten City: "Only Time will Tell" eastWEST records US 1992 Actually, this is about a year old and I got it for the b-side "Deep Kiss" which is an intense vibraphone house track!!! Mega-intense! But the main track (of which there are four mixes) sucks butt without a dental dam. "get it if you see it around"

The Beloved: "Outer Space Girl" 2ep promo only eastWEST records UK 1993 this double ep promo has some nice regurgitated 91 style house, but the mixes with lyrics suck (kinda baby-ford lyrics, whiney and annoying). I have a feeling the regular 12" would lack the good mixes. Pretty "housey" and commercial, but some nice grooves. Sounded better in the store. :( "might as well check out the promo if you see it"

-tt

 *From idm-owner Tue Aug 24 08:54:10 1993 From: drn <cs92bbm@brunel.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1993 16:53:47 +0100 (BST) Subject: Aphex pictures... Status: O*

I am gradually sorting out a load of Aphex pictures for the techno.stanford image archive...

Reph_hq has been submitted... but more to follow.

Ben

............................................................................. ben middleton | pattern avenger | passage violator | frequency defector | rephlex interceptor | | the innovators | | tom (tin tin - e621 global communication), grant (acid sniper queen), j jon | lizzie + carla, ian + liz, hair (techno godess), christina + r, aphex + tha | matt (phew), john (woolly mammouth), ashiq, kim + chantel, yanka, ruth, e w | paul t, sven, samu, vidar, m+s posse, milton, link, intelligent dance music | sammie, sbex, g, kelly + andrew, paul n (prototype 21), jason + issie, bob! | smw (russ), nv, mjb, chris (sog), rwr, kt (peace), mp, laura, todd sines, t | fluid, brian, cindy, ys, susie, allison, djkc, kirk (art), dave (fatus cat) | bloo sqr, katrin b (the bphex twin), techno.stanford crew, manuel sepulvada | Velocity-9, Velocity-9, Velocity-9, Velocity-9, Velocity-9, Velocity-9, red | ed andy ken (black dog), mike (kudos), mike dredd (!kosmik kommando), u-ziq | chris jeffs, synectics, rephlex, evolution, mangoes, spirit levels, *truro* |



*From idm-owner Tue Aug 24 11:22:35 1993 From: TeeP <ARAN%MITVMC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> Date: Tue, 24 Aug 93 14:11:32 EDT Subject: SorteD Status: O*

sorry to BPM'ers cross listed this one a friend ran into Josh Wink this weekend and Wink gave him a sticker with an altered NERVOUS logo with the words SORTED on it . . .he said this was going to be the new trance wing of NERVOUS . .any confirmation or release info out there nervous has got some nice boomie beats. . .hopefully some boomie trance coming

*From idm-owner Wed Aug 25 08:38:14 1993 From: TeeP <ARAN%MITVMC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> Date: Wed, 25 Aug 93 11:30:50 EDT Subject: MountainSioux Status: O*

sorry i forgot who asked about the mountain goat/kiss them for me beats i checked out KTFM and for sure the original beats come from an old school hip hop track by Schooly D called PSK. . . "P. is for the People who can't understand" Schooly D. they live. . . you sleep,sleep,sleep,obey t.p.

*From idm-owner Thu Aug 26 20:56:20 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 93 10:47:35 PDT Subject: planet of the shapes Status: O*

does anybody out there think that the bass sound in "planet of the shapes" (from Orbital 2) sounds like dr mccoy's sick bay thingie in the original star trek?

"he's dead, jon."

 *From idm-owner Fri Aug 27 04:25:46 1993 From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 7:25:39 EDT Subject: Re: planet of the shapes Status: O*

> does anybody out there think that the bass sound in "planet of the > shapes" (from Orbital 2) sounds like dr mccoy's sick bay thingie in > the original star trek?

yes. Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify

*From idm-owner Fri Aug 27 22:45:19 1993 From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 93 01:45:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Amorphous Androgynous Status: O*

I still find the repetitive FSoL remixes of Bryan Ferry's remake of "I Put A Spell On You" particularly alluring. The new single by Curve has a FSoL remix on it, btw.

A discography is available at the music archives (cs.uwp.edu). I'll be updating it soon; it is a few months old. If anyone has something not listed in the discog, send me the relevant info. Thanks. -Mike -- Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify

*From idm-owner Fri Aug 27 23:12:05 1993 From: abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1993 02:08:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: AI #2 / Amor Adrog Status: O*

Greetings!

The latest Alternative Press lists under the month of October a release from Wax Trax/TVT of a comp titled _Artificial Intelligence #2_. Anyone have clues as to a track list?

And has the latest Amorph Androg cd been spotted as a domestic release? I've heard rumors, but no hard facts.

Thanks.

Andrew --

Andrew Bennett abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu What planet are you from?

*From idm-owner Fri Aug 27 23:17:56 1993 From: ambient (Mike J. Brown) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 23:17:53 PDT Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT: 1993 Ambient Music FAQ and Survey Status: O*

YOU! Yes, you at the computer! READ THIS!

 ########################################

 THE AMBIENT FAQ and THE AMBIENT SURVEY initial announcement - 28 Aug 1993 (and call for contributions) ########################################

As you may know, I compiled the "Ambient Music FAQ" about a year ago in an effort to quiet down the surges of posts to the alt.rave newsgroup in which people kept asking where they could find more music that sounds like The Orb. At this point the old FAQ is outdated and cumbersome, and I'm embarrassed to think people still have any use for it, but if you want to check it out anyway you can acquire it via anonymous FTP from techno.stanford.edu in the /pub/raves/music directory. Be nice; FTP at night.

The FAQ contained a large "recommended listening" list which I did try to make look nice, but I just didn't have time to really go through and organize it. In the time since compiling it I ran across the 1993 Progressive Rock Survey, which is a mammoth document you can get from cs.uwp.edu in the pub/music/lists/gibraltar directory. The Prog Rock Survey is my inspiration for a much more ambitious Ambient FAQ and a separate Ambient Survey.

I am in the process of rewriting the Ambient FAQ from scratch. The new version of the FAQ will be written almost entirely by me except for some parts which I need help with. It will also include the liner notes from some of Brian Eno's albums. I would like to hear from anyone who is interested in ambient music as to what you would like to see included in the FAQ. Chances are, if I haven't thought of it, I don't know about it, and I'll need you to write something about it for me. I want this document to not just answer common questions but to really be informative in a proactive way.

As for the Ambient Survey, basically what is going on is this: I want you to write something *intelligent* about one or more artists, labels, genres, or compilations. What you write should be 1 to 5 paragraphs long depending on how confident you are with your knowledge and opinions. The subject matter should in some way be "ambient." What exactly "ambient" means is up to you. Think: to what other artists would you introduce someone who is into one form of ambient music (say, The Orb)? Anything is valid -- from Eric Satie to Klaus Schulze, Brian Eno to Aphex Twin, Moby to Pink Floyd. If they have produced any "headphone music," they should be written about.

The finished Ambient Survey will include all the contributions --except the redundant or poorly written ones-- in an alphabetical, encyclopedia-like format just like the Progressive Rock Survey. Each artist will be listed with information about them, who they've worked with, what their music sounds like, reviews of their releases, a mini-discography, and whatever else people cared to write about them. Everything should be written from an "ambient perspective," so if you are writing about a band that has a variety of musical styles you need not discuss the things about them that aren't all that ambient. The survey will be posted to the net and made available at various archive sites whenever the contributions stop coming in.

Suggested things to write about... these are *only suggestions* off the top of my head. The idea is to give people information about artists and labels about which they've not heard or known.

labels-- artists-- 4AD Records 808 State, Richard James, ART, Apollo Records Duran Duran/Arcadia/(Alex Sadkin), Brain Records Art of Noise, B12, Banco de Gaia, Creation Records Black Dog Prod., CJ Bolland, David FAX Records Bowie, Michael Brook, Harold Budd, FNAC David Byrne, C-Schulz, Paul Private Music Schutze, Klaus Schulze, Cluster, Plus 8 / Probe Records Can, Chapterhouse, Cocteau Twins, Rephlex Records Coil, Colourbox, Holger Czukay, Virgin Records Depeche Mode, Yanni, Philip Glass, Warp Records Jan Hammer, Jon Hassell, Steve WAU! Mr. Modo Records Hillage, Enigma, Jonathan Elias, Windham Hill Records Brian Eno, Roger Eno, Enya, KLF, ...many, many more, I'm sure... Hypnotone, Fortran 5, Christopher Franke, Future Sound of London, Kraftwerk, Laraaji, LFO, Edgar Froese, Johannes Schmoelling, Tangerine Dream, Peter Gabriel, Holger Hiller, Higher Intelligence Agency, The Irresistible Force, Jam & Spoon, Jean-Michel Jarre, Tomita, Kitaro, Jaydee, Lush, Marathon, Massive Attack, Material, Moby, Moodswings, My Bloody Valentine, New Order, Mike Oldfield, The Orb, Ozric Tentacles, Steve Roach, Steve Reich, Pat Metheny, William Orbit, Orbital, Pet Shop Boys, Pink Floyd, Prefab Sprout, Primal Scream, Psychedelic Research Lab, Psychick Warriors Ov Gaia, Recoil, Terry Riley, Roxy Music, Bryan Ferry, Ryuichi Sakamoto, Severed Heads, The Shamen, Skinny Puppy, Solaris, Spacemen 3, Speedy J, Spiritualized, Sun Electric, Sunsonic, David Sylvian, System 7 / 777, T99, The Tear Garden, Throbbing Gristle, Tranquility Bass, Psychic TV, Transformer 2, Simon Turner, Ultramarine, Vangelis, Vapour Space, Hafler Trio, Mad Professor, Lee "Scratch" Perry... etc.

Some of these artists produced only one or two ambient tracks, others put out nothing but ambient, and still others have gone through a wide variety of musical styles, some more hypnotic than others. Again, this list is only just to get you started; it is biased towards my collection and certainly does not reflect the direction in which I want the Survey to lean.

So this is what you need to do --

 1. Think of things that should be in the Ambient FAQ, 2. Think of artists, labels, and genres about which you would like to tell people. 3. ** SEND A MESSAGE TO ME at: ambient@techno.stanford.edu ** to let me know what you are going to write about. 4. If you have already written something, send it!

Here is a sample submission:

-------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE IRRESISTIBLE FORCE / MIXMASTER MORRIS

albums: Flying High (92), Underground EP (93) singles: various promo 12"s and compilation appearances remixes: Barbarella "Barbarella", Rising High Collective "No Deeper Love", Transform "Transform"

Eno says it's brilliant. Paterson says it's rubbish. With song titles like "Spiritual High", "Sky High", "Mountain High", and "High Frequency", it's no mystery what Morris, one of the first acid house DJs in the UK, expects you to be doing when you're listening to his album. Little more than an exercise in running a couple of analog synthesizers through a delay pedal while lots of bleepy, filtered scales oscillate and sweep around, Flying High manages to be tonal and somewhat melodic without lapsing into techno for more than a few seconds. It's sort of like a deluxe, extended version of the Space album (see KLF). Too bad he plops in drug-oriented vocal samples, like Terence McKenna's nasal proclaimation that "DMT is a MEGAtonnage hallucinogen." Nevertheless, every track Mixmaster Morris does is interesting, and most of his work has a distinct sound. He compiled the Chill Out Or Die! album on Rising High in 93, which features "Space Is The Place" and two of his remixes. He spun on a mix tape available from DMC. The Underground EP, recorded prior to Flying High but recently released on Instinct, includes the epic, insane headtrip "Underground (Ambiant mix)" and the bassy space jazz cut "Flow Motion"; check out these two tracks for a fairly good representation of the content of Flying High. --------------------------------------------------------------------------

Thank you for your time, and please, even if you only have one album by an ambient artist, contribute your thoughts on it. Describe and evaluate it for everyone else. Also, please distribute this announcement and forthcoming announcements to other networks and mailing lists, wherever it would be appropriate. I'd like to get some contributions from BBS-based networks (e.g. FidoNET, WWIVnet, etc) if possible.

All responses to: > > Mike J. Brown > Internet: ambient@techno.stanford.edu > > those without Internet access can send regular mail or disks (preferred) > to me at 120 Wickfield Road > Blacklick, OH 43004-9624 > USA Mike

*From idm-owner Fri Aug 27 23:23:54 1993 From: "Chris.Hilker" <cspot@cats.ucsc.edu> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 93 23:23:49 +45722824 Subject: Re: AI #2 / Amor Adrog Status: O*

abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) writes:

>And has the latest Amorph Androg cd been spotted as a domestic release? >I've heard rumors, but no hard facts.

If you mean 'Tales of Ephidrina,' then it's on the Astralwerks division of Caroline (ASW 6101 0777 7 88238 2 7).

C.

-- hilker!chris (cspot@cats.ucsc.edu)

"My home is Vulcan and everybody likes me there and they don't call me freak." Life is fair. There, I said it. If anyone asks, you can tell them I did.

*From idm-owner Fri Aug 27 23:34:54 1993 From: Mike J. Brown <mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 93 2:34:49 EDT Subject: Re: AI #2 / Amor Adrog Status: O*

> > And has the latest Amorph Androg cd been spotted as a domestic release? > I've heard rumors, but no hard facts.

The latest? The only one I know of is Tales Of Ephidrina and yes, it has been out domestically since July 30. Check the New Age section of the Record Town or Camelot or whatever mall stores you like to go to :)

 Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify

*From idm-owner Mon Aug 30 01:02:30 1993 From: "Oivind Idso" <OIVINDI@gribb.hsr.no> Date: 30 Aug 93 10:02:36 GMT+1 Subject: Model 500 equipment list? Status: O*

Having just heard the latest Model 500 release, "Classics" (2x12"), out on R&S Records, I'm quite amazed by the sound quality of these recordings. This goes for both production and the sounds itself.

So does anyone have Juan's equipment list? I understand he's been a fan of Yamaha FM-technology, so if someone could please give me a hint...

Oivind Idso (-: OIVINDI@gribb.hsr.no :-) STUDIOSUS PERPETUUS

*From idm-owner Tue Aug 31 16:35:12 1993 From: Jon Drukman <jdrukman@us.oracle.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 93 16:36:47 PDT Subject: IDM TIMES V1.5 Status: O*

INTELLIGENT DANCE MUSIC TIMES - Volume 1.5

The battle for the feet of the planet's ravers continues. In one corner, the disco revival crowd hope to ride the 70's nostalgia wave. JTQ are incredibly popular among SF's large expatriot British crowd. On the other hand, geeks like myself coming from the Detroit techno and Chicago dance industrial scene want more electronics, and we're getting it - finally! Progressive house seems to be on the wane, as darker atmospheres prevail over prog.house's simple uplifting chord progressions. What's next? Anybody's guess!

No BPMs or timings means the item in question is vinyl-only. Or I was feeling lazy. But usually the former.

Freaky Chakra: Halucifuge Exist Dance ED 010

Halucifuge (Blind Dive) Halucifuge (300 Mics) Halucifuge (Freaky Chicken Peck) Trancendental Funk Bump

I was there when Daum Bentley played his demo tape for a roomful of techno musicians. Numbered among them was Mike Kandel, head honcho of Exist Dance records, perhaps the only good reason for *not* dropping a nuclear bomb on Los Angeles. Mike was obviously impressed with what he heard, cos he waltzed on over, introduced himself to Daum and invited him to sign with Exist Dance right then and there. This 12" is Daum's first recorded product and it is unbelievable. The Blind Dive mix starts things off with a booming new age voice talking about chakras, and repeating the key phrase "you are in... THE LIGHT." The song blasts off to new heights of trance with subtle 303 blips, gated bendy vocals and busy percussion work. The "300 Mics" mix is actually a completely different song, with some wonderful epic choral voices, and a total Chicago tribal house section in the middle. On the flip side, the Freaky Chicken Peck is a starker version of Blind Dive, featuring some electric guitar heroics from Mike Kandel. The Funk Bump closes it all off with a song that definitely makes you want to shake your butt - it's got clanky frying-pan percussion, the Fat Albert theme song, some manic scratching and live slap-funk bass. This is the record of the year. Exist Dance continues to be the most innovative American dance label. Grade: A+++++

Ambient Dub Volume 3: Aqua Beyond Records RBADCD4

 92 5:48 The Higher Intelligence Agency - Delta 105 6:24 The Groove Corporation - Roots Controller 100 5:13 Banco de Gaia - Desert Wind (Satsuma Nightmare Remix) 122 10:18 APL - Hypnosystem 123 6:06 The Groove Corporation featuring Beverly Sokolowski - Your Heart 80 6:00 Original Rockers - Mecca Of Space 92 9:42 Another Fine Day - Wild Spirit Of Song 133 6:26 Digital Jesus - Menali Encounter 94 7:48 Banco de Gaia - Sheesha 95 12:28 Insanity Sect - Choctaw Ridge

I swear the Ambient Dub series just keeps getting better and better. Stoned, trippy, slow, beautiful music. Everything I like! This time around, the tracks are all supposedly influenced by water. I expected loads of cliched ocean samples, but fortunately it's more imaginative than that - the opener "Delta" is very drippy sounding, but uses synths to convey the watery feeling. Overall, the dub influence is even more prominent this time around, giving a very Orb-esque feel to most of the offerings. Although I despaired at hearing yet another remix of Desert Wind, the Original Rockers have done a pretty thorough overhaul on it. Those wondering where the cliche digeridoo would pop up next need look no further than APL's track. They also threw in the horribly overused shakuhachi, which is a shame, since I really liked both of their tracks on the last Ambient Dub. The real winner for me though has to be "Wild Spirit Of Song" by Another Fine Day - a ten minute excursion into god knows where. Immaculate programming, conception, execution... Grade: A.

Material - Mantra Axiom AXMCD 1

 95 16:58 Mantra (Praying Mantra Mix) 95 5:11 Mantra (Doors Of Perception Edit) 95 8:44 Mantra (Doors Of Perception Mix)

What do you call Indian ghatam music with a dub reggae bass line and a crushing programmed drum groove? I call it fucking genius, but I'm like that. The original track and Doors Of Perception mixes are by Bill Laswell, who you may know as the guy who put the techno pulse in Herbie Hancock's music. The Praying Mantra mix is by stoner kings The Orb, and it's one of their best mixes in a long time. The track is still very recognizable as the original, but filtered through Alex & Kris' patented dope haze. This one is going to be a staple for chill out rooms. Grade: A.

Jean-Michel Jarre: Chronologie Dreyfus FDM 36152-2

 10:51 Chronologie part 1 163 6:05 Chronologie part 2 3:59 Chronologie part 3 124 3:59 Chronologie part 4 120 5:34 Chronologie part 5 120 3:45 Chronologie part 6 2:17 Chronologie part 7 94 5:33 Chronologie part 8

I've always had a weakness for Jarre's heavily orchestrated synth music. His early albums were masterpieces of layered analog heaven; "Oxygene" still stands up as a classic piece that would work in any contemporary chill area. His initial moves into the dance area were divided into insane hi energy successes like "Zoolookologie" and overwrought histrionic crap like "Rendez-vous." His last album was divided between techno, calypso, pompous garbage, and a stunning 47 minute ambient piece in the Brian Eno vein. So, I was quite interested to see what he'd cooked up for us this time. Part 1 slightly disappointed me, opening up with more of his overbearing epic style. Halfway through, however, it dissolves in a sea of analog blips into a complete pastiche of his "Oxygene" style, I guess as a way of saying "look, I can still do it if I really want to!" The third subsection (they even have index marks on the CD) is a really trippy pretty piece filled with rising rubbery sounds. So, full marks for part 1. Unfortunately, it's a real mixed bag after that. His attempts to be energetic usually sound ridiculously over the top, and his attempts to do current-sounding electronic dance music are almost embarrassing. A 909, turntable scratch and Praga Khan stab do not techno make. Part 5 is a real uneasy mix - you've got a dumb scratch sound, a dumb orch hit, but a beautiful mid section. Remixes might help. (In fact, Part 4 has been released as 2 singles with remixes by Sunscreem, Praga Khan and others, but I haven't heard them.)

As I said, a highly variable record. Probably only for hardcore fans. I have a hard time grading it as a total entity. Some bits deserve an "A", some deserve an "F".

Jon Drukman jdrukman%dlsun87@us.oracle.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.