A neutral account of events from April 1-6.

### ORIGINAL POST BY u/punnyComedian: https://www.reddit.com/r/ralsei/comments/ba7x14/a_neutral_account_of_the_events_of_april_16/

I shall attempt to be neutral in all aspects, please correct me in the comments if what I say seems biased towards either side in any way.

Here are the two sides' official posts on the issue:

[samurottt a.k.a. Kuroo](https://redd.it/ba4bln)

[guardiaNES a.k.a. Caltrop](http://redd.it/b8gmhe)

*Italicized* words indicate content from guardiaNES's post, **bolded** words indicate content from samurottt's post, normal text indicates my own words and content from r/Deltarune.

I will call the subreddit created by guardiaNES that is identical to this one "fluffreddit" from now on.

On April 1, **a certain subreddit admin and Discord server announced their intent to raid r/Ralsei.** *There was an argument in the r/ralsei Discord's admin chat and in-fighting among the moderation team.* **samurottt made the subreddit private as a preventative measure** *and removed several of the moderators.* He also deleted the Discord, saying **"the only reason why [samurottt] made the Discord is for it to be a safe place. [samurottt] wouldn't have any power over anything in non-official Discord servers and would feel responsible if a Discord channel that's advertised [in r/ralsei] turned out to be toxic/nsfw/rulebreaking in general".** The other moderators, not knowing samurottt's reasoning, interpreted this as a top mod going rogue, and left the subreddit to create their own identical subreddit - the fluffreddit.

The fluffreddit slowly grew. *samurott refused to respond to any messages from the moderation team as of April 2.* Meanwhile, on the same day, I received a message from samurottt via r/Deltarune's modmail, stating "There was drama in the /r/ralsei official discord and I ended up deleting it. There's also raids going on with [r/ralsei]. I'm planning on opening it again at the end of this week. Are there mods here that are able to assist me for a while?" and I replied that I would be able to assist him, though the moderators that were removed and created the other sub likely would not. *Meanwhile, the moderators of the fluffreddit speculated on why samurottt made the sub private, as they had no knowledge of his reasoning. They speculated it was perhaps for religious reasons.* These two separate subreddits heavily opposed each other, with *guardiaNES stating "Do not join any Subreddits, Discords or similar communities created or operated by Kuroo" in his April 2 post* and **samurottt stating "I will not allow discord invite links from the [fluffreddit's] Discord here" and "I will not allow promotion of [the fluffreddit] as it called out a raid on this subreddit" on his post today.** This seemed to imply that the fluffreddit and the "certain subreddit" mentioned earlier were one and the same - however, this cannot be true, as the fluffreddit was created after r/ralsei became private. It is unknown if the fluffreddit caused the raids. *guardiaNES encouraged users to make "[the other subreddit] more active and [pass] on important information".*

As you can see, both sides have a valid argument. Which one is right?

That's for you to decide.

And that leads us to today.

r/Ralsei has reopened.

At least personally, I hope that this rift between moderators and subreddits can end soon.

All the best,

u/punnyComedian