Judgements for Round 1

Dargoo vs Fj

Response 1 Judgements

After reading this response, I am leaning towards Dargoo. The "Ben blows up Vilgax" argument is hilarious, and his arguments for how Vilgax will act are solid. Fj made some weaker points that honestly should have been left out, such as Vilgax intercepting projectiles with his eye beams (something he didn't provide a scan for, so I assume it never happens in the series). Fj's arguments for Xemnas are more solid (I am not convinced that Echo-Echo can take a hit from him), but Dargoo did a good job preempting him by saying that Xemnas teleporting in puts him in at 2v1 disadvantage. The slight concession that UHum is just stronger than Vilgax isn't a good look either.

The Humungosaurs are funny.

Response 2

Fj does significantly better this round. He makes several good points about Echo-Echo's weak durability, and UHum's questionable scaling (the most convincing thing to come out of this debate is the idea that Ben 10 is as consistent as wet toilet paper).  Dargoo's response is also very good. In particular, Fj never addressed Vilgax actually blowing up, and the arguments Dargoo made about how Vilgax fights in a very suboptimal way. His arguments about Xemnas remain convincing to me, mostly for pointing out that there's no given reason for him to attack Echo-Echo first, and not Humungosaur, as well as his thorough deconstruction of the teleportation.
Overall, I still lean towards Dargoo. His counters were tighter, and Fj just didn't really address several points made in the first response.

Dargoo wins, although I am sad to see the 50 Humungosaur dream die in a self destructive fireball.




Imade vs Abe

Imade starts out by arguing that Pain and Sin-Eater have bad weak physicals, and Tatsumi and Bazz are strong. He follows up with an argument that Bazz kills the Pains and SE instantly, that the Pains abilities aren't meaningful, and that Sin Eater won't use his in the form he's stipped into.
Abe's response basically boils down to:
1. Sin Eater uses his abilities, because Imade's team has been very naughty
2. Pain summons an effectively unkillable dog
I currently lean towards Imade. His response is much more comprehensive, and his win condition of "Bazz points and shoots" is simpler, and shown to be in character. Abe didn't make any arguments for his characters physicals at all, so it's not difficult to believe that an initial strike from Bazz wins the match.

Response 2
Imade doubles down on the characterization arguments for Sin Eater, as well as arguing that Tatsumi and Bazz can tank a blast from his shotgun. I am not as convinced for Tatsumi, since Abe showed that the projectile will phase through things (like, say, armor) and Imade didn't provide anything for an unarmored Tatsumi.

Sins are fake in Bleach and Akame. Abe does a good job rebutting this with a scan showing that the person being attacked morality doesn't seem to affect the attack.

Abe introduces several arguments here (Pain absorbing Reiatsu, Deva Path pushing, the durability of the Dog Summon, etc) which I won't address individually (because I hate Quote Response), but I will say that several of Abe's rebuttals are convincing (Pain's flight speed and arguments about the speed of the burner finger), but I will say that it's a much better response than his first.

Imade vs Abe conclusion

Essentially, I have Imade as winning. I found almost all his rebuttals more convincing, and his posts and arguments are higher quality than the opposition.




Crim vs Ralton

Response 1

The most salient points to me off the bat are Adaptoids copying Naruto's Rasenshuriken. There is also some debate centering on Kafka's physicals. Crim argues that he is stronger than strong kaiju, Ralton doesn't address this potential scaling, focusing on the relative weaknesses of his objective feats, i.e charge time, and some characterization issues.
After reading the first response, I favor Crim, slightly. His arguments for his team are solid, and he specifically brings up his superiority to both members of the other team, whereas Ralton focuses more on Kafka's weaknesses. I would be more convinced of certain arguments if Ralton had dedicated time to explain how the Adaptoid copying worked, instead of asserting that it will immediately copy Crim's team without explaining mechanism, range or any limitations.

Ralton does have better memes so far

Response 2

Ralton opens up by taking a swing at Kafka's physicals. He pokes holes in the scaling used by Crim, notes several antifeats and explains some of the circumstances surrounding Kafka's best feats. His arguments against Naruto's speed stamina and durability are convincing, and lead me to believe that Naruto can't sustain his actual strong attacks, while actively lowering his potential output by splitting it into clones.

His defense of his characters, relative to Crim's offense, is well done. I would again, appreciate more information about how the Adaptoid copies, but it's not particularly relevant atm.

Crim's opening is strong, attacking Ralton's proposed win conditions. Naruto heat good, Naruto can protect Kafka, and Kafka regens well enough to withstand attacks that aren't immediately lethal, bullets bad.

The Adaptoid copies Naruto and dies, or gets hit and dies. Crim attacking the Adaptoids scaling to the actual MCU characters, with pertinent antifeats is nice, especially when without that scaling it gets destroyed by Naruto's attacks.

Naruto is argued to be stronger than the Adaptoid, and has offense that can heavily damage or kill the opposition, Kafka does in fact scale in strength to other monsters, and his characters open with their argued offense.

After this round, I favor Ralton slightly. Naruto doesn't seem to be able to sustain tier relevant offense, and Kafka's strongest attacks require a great deal of build up in a speed equalized setting.

Overall, I give the round to Ralton, but just barely. I didn't expect for this to be my favorite debate of the round, but there you go.