Asymmetric Conversational Warfare

+ChoopaRat
ExecutiveWedgieSevrices: When do you think Donald Trump will be indicted with his first felony.
+ExecutiveWedgieSevrices
There're seventy-three people here, almost all zombies or worse, and, tsk, oh, never mind.
+ChoopaRat
Seth Abramson thinks we're still 12-15 months out.
+ExecutiveWedgieSevrices
Don't get your hopes up, ChoopaRat.
+ChoopaRat
ExecutiveWedgieSevrices: He admitted to felony obstruction of justice on national TV.
"This Rusher thing"
Mueller has assembled the most competent legal team... in the history of Earth.
You think no indictments for the president are coming. You must not follow the topic.
+ExecutiveWedgieSevrices
As long as the Clinton crime family remains at large, the Fascist bedbugs in Congress will have an excuse to do nothing.
Ignoring ExecutiveWedgieSevrices!*@*
+ChoopaRat
ExecutiveWedgieSevrices: I put you on ignore.
@Infradead
ExecutiveWedgieSevrices, no, but using my whole nick makes the line it's in red and alerts the client in general.
Anywho, I'm off to bed.
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+ChoopaRat
Welcome, Cuck Brother!
I'm not an actual rat.
Though, I am an actual Choopa.
+gentle-rain-spirit
hm
+ChoopaRat
gentle-rain-spirit: ExecutiveWedgieSevrices is an enemy of the United States of America.
If you recall, Federalist 9 and 10, penned by James Madison, chief author of the Constitution, noted that factionalism is the primary threat to the American Republic.
+gentle-rain-spirit
that's cool. to each their own
+ChoopaRat
Well, ExecutiveWedgieSevrices is a factionalist.
The team-bases schema he's adopted into his contemporary worldview is Democrats v. Republicans.
In a different time and black it would be Nubians v. Carthiginians, or Sunni v. Shia.
The particular team-based battle is mostly irrelevant. It's a bug in the evolutionary adapted cognitive orientation of our species.
Tribalists live in that world and do not know it's merely a cognitive style which can be mathematically modelled.
They are the enemy of progress.
We need to move to an epistocracy in which such mental orientations are systematically denied power.
This will lead to, at minimum, a two-tiered human civilization.
We need a model for the respectful and dignified treatment of the various tiers in this epistocracy.
That model is the Animal Rights movement which seeks to to establish healthy relationships between humans and non-humans.
The differences navigated in the Animal Rights movement far exceed what we'll find in human v. human cognitive style variations.
This is why the Animal Rights movement is one of the most important philosophical and cultural movements on Earth.
Yuval Harari notes this in Homo Deus.
+gentle-rain-spirit
oddly enough i am part of the animal rights movement. hoorah
+ChoopaRat
Is that right?
I am an ethical vegetarian, m'self.
+gentle-rain-spirit
unfortunately i am not part of the plants rights movement. fuck them.
+ChoopaRat
Not yet a vegan, since I'm selfish.
+gentle-rain-spirit
i am vegan. but i can always improve.
+ChoopaRat
Interesting.
The differences between humans is fascinating.
+gentle-rain-spirit
i intend on growing all my own food and living in a mud yurt one day
+ChoopaRat
See, most humans are tribalists seeking game theoric advantages at the cost of the system as a whole.
And so when they hear language like 'deny power' they think the speaker is doing the same thing.
They cannot imagine how different beings can co-exist when one is systematically denied power.
We currently deny tigers the power to eat human children, for example.
The tigers are pretty damn confident that's a good action, but we realize it won't work.
If they eat our children, we'll murder their species.
So the only way for us to co-exist is for them to be denied that power.
The tribalists suffer from a kind of insanity.
+gentle-rain-spirit
oh, i don't talk to people who ignore people
+ChoopaRat
And they must be denied the ability to vote or determine the course of modern civilization.
+gentle-rain-spirit
rock on, though
+ChoopaRat
Why do you have that value.
I put ExecutiveWedgieSevrices on ignore because he responded to my question about Donald Trump with a whataboutism featuring the Clinton family.
He did this as a part of his team-based thinking epistemology which is contrary to Enlightenment Philosophy and its child, science.
Team-based thinking can lead nowhere except repeated warfare.
As each team retreats into its enclaves featuring only those with the same cognitive styles and same beliefs.
This kind of whataboutism is an application of asymmetric warfare to conversation.
The guerilla speaker abandons all the responsibilities of modernity, evidence, and science, while the scientific person has to respond to every claim with calm and facts.
The psychological goal of this asymmetric conversational warfare is to fatigue the opposition.
The solution to this strategy, clearly, is to deny relevance to such speakers.
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+ChoopaRat
Meanwhile, we can speak about that strategy to listeners in our communities who observe this behavior.
Your blanket value of 'I ignore people who ignore others' seems extremely short-sighted compared to the above analysis.