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  1. Wolf vs Ralton
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  5. Hulk vs Skrull
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  7. Wolf’s R1:
  8. * “Skrull scales to a Thing that is bad and also scales to the worst Hulk”. No scans at all regarding that so…
  9. * “Hulk is strong, scales to people stronger than the opponent.” Straight to the point but good. Win con is basically Hulk beats up the shitty Skrull.
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  11. Ralton’s R1:
  12. * “Super Skrull kills the Intelligent Hulk with heat”. GOOD arguments.
  13. * “Int Hulk can’t get angry enough in the context of this fight to replicate the feats posted”. Seems decent as well.
  14. * “Super Skrull's strength and durability are both at a level that far eclipses what the Intelligent Hulk can do without becoming angry.”.
  15. * Skrull scales to Modern Thing.
  16. * He beats up Hulk or kills him with heat.
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  18. Wolf’s R2:
  19. * “a worse Hulk did this: https://imgur.com/a/UDxMLC3” yea that is pretty fucking poggers.
  20. Hulk’s “capable of cleanly cleaving straight through as many as 6 massive metal ships by throwing another ship.” is a sweet feat.
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  22. Ralton’s R2:
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  24. * “My opponent's basis for the Grey Hulk that fights with Super Skrull being weaker than his Intelligent Hulk is that Classic Hulk fought early Thing, but Classic Hulk also fights later Thing a lot, quite famously, being portrayed as the stronger of the two. Heck, my opponent is portraying Intelligent Hulk as stronger than the Thing, while the Intelligent Hulk is weaker than Classic Hulk. "Hulk is only as strong as a much weaker Thing" is obviously bunk.” this is a headache man.
  25. * “Super Skrull still opens with heat and can use all his powers at once”. Not sure I buy the PIS argument, it was explained in the fight that he did it to conserve his power - which he might do in this match too since he’s, once again, against the Hulk.
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  27. Wolf’s R3:
  28. * Hulk punches good.
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  30. Ralton’s R3:
  31. * Hulk Grey Hulk Int Hulk scaling arguments once more, Skrull still punches out or melts Hulk cause his feats don’t scale/don’t matter/won’t happen
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  33. VERDICT:
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  35. This was bad. Wolf clearly didn’t give half a shit and Ralton made some headache of some arguments that could have been kept way simpler. I left this match genuinely having no idea what is or what isn’t a valid feat and what is and isn’t valid scaling and what is or isn’t Hulk Gray Hulk Intelligent Hulk Classic Thing Modern Thing Amped Thing. Stop posting out of context Marvel scans, especially albums with 5+ pages.
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  37. Hulk wins mostly because Skrull’s heat was proven to visibly fail against a weaker Hulk, who also, in the same fight, somewhat mogged Skrull. Hulk also has genuinely better strength feats in general, which means that he’ll punch out Skrull - who, in his turn, seemingly doesn’t punch out even Human Torch sometimes. Saying Hulk insta-loses to the heat also implies that Skrull will instantly not just open up with heat (likely), but that he will open up with the highest heat he can possibly output (unlikely, seeing he didn’t seem to do that against Gray Hulk). Still, I wouldn’t call this a stomp by any means. Wolf could’ve done a much better job at arguing just about anything he said, but he knows that.
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  39. HULK WINS but fuck this match.
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  43. Harpy vs Radioactive Man from Earth something
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  45. I’m quite honestly, personally torn on this one.
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  47. On one side, it’s hard to follow an absolute such as “this is not Earth 616 so this Radioactive Man doesn’t exist, he has no feats, nothing you say can be proven” because this is specifically a scenario directly derived from Earth 616.
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  49. On the other side, this is not Earth 616 so this Radioactive Man doesn’t exist, he has no feats, and nothing Ralton says can be proven.
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  51. I’d be happier and more lenient if said hypothetical (?) Radioactive Man had at least one entire page showing up and performing whatever action - even walking - or even the tiniest bit of dialogue, but as it stands he’s literally a RM from another reality that derived from Earth 616 with an unknown time gap under unknown circumstances with unknown consequences or effects of the actions of whatever characters butterfly effect parallel universes schrodinger radioactive man etc etc
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  53. Quite honestly, Ralton, just get a character that actually exists next time instead of trying to loophole the fact that you can’t run the same character twice.
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  55. HARPY WINS cause her opponent doesn’t provably exist.
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  59. WOLF WINS 2-0.
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  61. I won’t be judging Toriko vs Radioactive Man to speed things up (since Wolf already won 2-0) but ping me in chat if you want my thoughts on the match.
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