Aug6

10:11 PM <abhiramr> Okay, then we'll start today's session.
10:11 PM <abhiramr> Attendance
10:11 PM <abhiramr> Abhiram R
10:12 PM <Abhishek_Jain> Abhishek Jain
10:12 PM <Vaishnavi> Vaishnavi Rao
10:12 PM <ramrutha> Amrutha Ramanathan
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10:12 PM <chetusa> Chaitanya.S.A
10:12 PM <samruda> Samruda
10:12 PM <amjad> Amjad Ali
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10:12 PM <localhost1> Rakesh
10:12 PM <abhiramr> Cool. Santosh will join us in a while. Till then I'll moderate the session
10:13 PM <abhiramr> So did you see video 4 on the lecture as asked?
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10:14 PM <abhiramr> yes or no?
10:14 PM <ramrutha> Half way through
10:14 PM <abhiramr> okay, others?
10:15 PM <abhiramr> I'm assuming silence is no.
10:15 PM <Vaishnavi> Doing nw
10:15 PM <abhiramr> Vaishnavi:  I suggest you watch it later. Before tomorrow's session.
10:15 PM <Abhishek_Jain> yes
10:16 PM <abhiramr> All right.
10:16 PM <Vaishnavi> Okay
10:16 PM <chetusa> could not..
10:16 PM <chetusa> :/
10:16 PM <abhiramr> Please do watch the videos as they would help you understand algorithms better.
10:16 PM <abhiramr> Okay?
10:17 PM <Abhishek_Jain> okay cool
10:17 PM <Abhishek_Jain> +1
10:17 PM <ramrutha> sure abhi
10:17 PM <Vaishnavi> Ok
10:17 PM <samruda> okay
10:17 PM <amjad> Where do you post the links to the videos?
10:17 PM <chetusa> yeah.. I know.. They are really good.. I could not today.. :/
10:17 PM <abhiramr> amjad: Refer yesterday's summary on the group
10:18 PM <abhiramr> Anyway, Richard talks about how the number of bits affect algorithms
10:19 PM <abhiramr> although we increase decimal numbers linearly, their respective binary forms are exponential
10:19 PM <abhiramr> his video was along those lines
10:20 PM <abhiramr> who remembers yesterday's home question?
10:20 PM <Abhishek_Jain> i do
10:20 PM <abhiramr> can you tell us?
10:21 PM <abhiramr> by the time Abhishek_Jain types others think if you have an answer
10:21 PM <Abhishek_Jain> yea
10:21 PM <abhiramr> shoot!
10:21 PM <Abhishek_Jain> how to find tome complexities of algms
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10:21 PM <abhiramr> that's a little vague
10:21 PM <abhiramr> "given the time complexity its easy to say which algorithm is the better one , but given an algorithm how do you find its time complexity ?? go through the algorithms for bubble sort and insertion sort and find their time complexities "
10:21 PM <Abhishek_Jain> and we need to find time complexities of bubble sort
10:21 PM <Abhishek_Jain> and nsertion sort
10:21 PM <abhiramr> yes
10:22 PM <Abhishek_Jain> dude i was typing
10:22 PM <Abhishek_Jain> sorry :(
10:22 PM <abhiramr> Abhishek_Jain: Okay.
10:22 PM <abhiramr> Does anyone have an answer. Hit a !
10:22 PM <abhiramr> Does anyone have an answer? Hit a !
10:22 PM <ramrutha> a
10:22 PM <abhiramr> everyone else?
10:23 PM <abhiramr> I'll repeat the question
10:23 PM <abhiramr> "given the time complexity its easy to say which algorithm is the better one , but given an algorithm how do you find its time complexity ?? go through the algorithms for bubble sort and insertion sort and find their time complexities "
10:23 PM <amjad> a
10:23 PM <Abhishek_Jain> a
10:23 PM <abhiramr> I meant hit a "!"
10:23 PM <Vaishnavi> a
10:23 PM <abhiramr> like this
10:23 PM <chetusa> a
10:24 PM <abhiramr> !
10:24 PM <chetusa> !
10:24 PM <Abhishek_Jain> hahaha
10:24 PM <amjad> lmao
10:24 PM — abhiramr lol just now
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10:24 PM <nerret> lol
10:24 PM <abhiramr> Okay cool. ramrutha go ahead. Give your answer
10:24 PM <chetusa> finally!
10:24 PM <ramrutha> Well u first find the basic step in the algorithm.The basic step is the the single statement which takes most time to execute.
10:25 PM <abhiramr> okay.. go on
10:25 PM <abhiramr> if anyone has a question, please pose it to ramrutha
10:25 PM <ramrutha> And then you see how many times it executes (whether it lies in one or more loops)
10:25 PM <Abhishek_Jain> +1 ramrutha
10:26 PM <Vaishnavi> +1 kool
10:26 PM <ramrutha> That essentially gives us the time complexity of the algorithm
10:26 PM <abhiramr> ramrutha: yes you're right
10:27 PM <abhiramr> anyone has anything to add?
10:27 PM <abhiramr> or oppose?
10:27 PM <chetusa> yes
10:27 PM <abhiramr> chetusa: go on
10:27 PM <chetusa> the step which takes longest
10:27 PM <Abhishek_Jain> Main concern is to find the basic step
10:28 PM <chetusa> we need to see the size of input to size of output is what matters too
10:28 PM <abhiramr> ramrutha:  how do you find which step takes the longest time?
10:28 PM <Abhishek_Jain> now for bubble sort we have the comaprision which is the basic step
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10:28 PM <abhiramr> chetusa: can you be clearer ?
10:29 PM <Abhishek_Jain> the basic step can be found out as the one which gets executed the largest number of times..
10:29 PM <Abhishek_Jain> correct me if i am wrong
10:29 PM <ramrutha> @abhiramr like abhishek explained.Normally the step inside the loop is the basic step
10:29 PM <ramrutha> It definitely can't be initialization or declarations
10:30 PM <nerret> Most singnifact step
10:30 PM <chetusa> like in the 3rd video
10:30 PM <ramrutha> It has to be native to the algorithm
10:30 PM <abhiramr> okay consider this.
10:30 PM <ramrutha> @nerret +1
10:30 PM <abhiramr> say i sort a list of numbers. and write it to a file
10:30 PM <chetusa> the 2 bits input gives a larger output
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10:30 PM <chetusa> in other words, the
10:30 PM <abhiramr> file write operation takes more time
10:30 PM <chetusa> complexity is more
10:30 PM <sant0sh> Hola!
10:30 PM <abhiramr> sant0sh: Hi, we were discussing about this
10:30 PM <chetusa> and further, remember the oblivious algo?
10:31 PM <abhiramr> "given the time complexity its easy to say which algorithm is the better one , but given an algorithm how do you find its time complexity ?? go through the algorithms for bubble sort and insertion sort and find their time complexities "
10:31 PM <Abhishek_Jain> @santosh Hi
10:31 PM <nerret> PyBot^, kick sant0sh
10:31 PM <ramrutha> @sant0sh Hey
10:31 PM <abhiramr> chetusa: yes.
10:31 PM <abhiramr> and ramrutha Abhishek_Jain you were right.
10:31 PM <sant0sh> Abhishek_Jain, ramrutha o/
10:31 PM <Abhishek_Jain> yea see for every step in bubble sort we compare two numbers
10:31 PM <Abhishek_Jain> so that it becomes the basic step
10:32 PM <chetusa> well, that matters too.. cuz if it is a waste of steps n calculations then its a waste of time too
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10:32 PM <ramrutha> @abhiramr like i said,the basic step is native to the algorithm
10:32 PM <chetusa> @santosh hi!
10:32 PM <abhiramr> ramrutha: yes.
10:32 PM <nerret> ramrutha, +1
10:32 PM <abhiramr> sant0sh: the stage is yours
10:32 PM <ramrutha> So the comparison is the native to finding the time complexity
10:32 PM <sant0sh> abhiramr, ok thanks
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10:33 PM <sant0sh> to be frank i dont know what happened? how much data is completed?
10:33 PM <Abhishek_Jain> @ramrutha +1
10:33 PM <sant0sh> also i didnt refer to the videos
10:33 PM <sant0sh> :P
10:33 PM <sant0sh> my work is to teach you guys about the bubble sort
10:34 PM <sant0sh> ;)
10:34 PM <sant0sh> will do that
10:34 PM <abhiramr> sant0sh: yeah, we just saw a few lectures on how to think in algorithmic terms.
10:34 PM <sant0sh> abhiramr, ok!
10:35 PM <sant0sh> abhiramr, everything was in python i assume
10:35 PM <abhiramr> sant0sh: It was not language specific.
10:35 PM <Abhishek_Jain> Basic algorithms no implementation till now
10:35 PM <sant0sh> abhiramr, ah ok! interesting
10:35 PM <abhiramr> guys you can update too.
10:35 PM <sant0sh> yes please
10:37 PM <sant0sh> let me bring my bot
10:37 PM <sant0sh> :)
10:37 PM <Abhishek_Jain> today we need to implement in python
10:37 PM <Abhishek_Jain> yay
10:37 PM — Abhishek_Jain is feeling good
10:37 PM <abhiramr> sant0sh: okay
10:37 PM → PyBot^ joined ([email protected])
10:37 PM <sant0sh> yes lets do some coding ;)
10:37 PM <chetusa> :)
10:38 PM — ramrutha is excited
10:38 PM <nerret> let's get our hands dirty
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10:38 PM — nerret opens python interpreter
10:39 PM <sant0sh> pingall: session begins now
10:39 PM <PyBot^> nitesh, abraar, nerret, pallavi, localhost1, chetusa, Vaishnavi, ramrutha, samruda, Abhishek_Jain, vrishabh, bhoom, maheshkumar, 6A4AAOQV9, abhiramr, psacrifice|away, dash-rai, kaustavdm
10:39 PM <PyBot^> session begins now
10:39 PM <nerret> haha
10:39 PM <chetusa> awesome!!
10:39 PM — abhiramr says Naice!
10:39 PM  → coolbhavi joined
10:39 PM <Abhishek_Jain> we are ready to conquer
10:39 PM <nerret> it should have pinged only python guys
10:39 PM <nerret> it pinged some extra people :P
10:39 PM — chetusa wonders how will I run anything without python
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10:39 PM — hackdroid is here
10:39 PM <sant0sh> lets get to the topic
10:39 PM <abhiramr> nerret: is Jeevan I'm guessing?
10:40 PM — nerret asks abhiram to stop guessing
10:40 PM <sant0sh> so today bubble sort in python
10:40 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  yup
10:40 PM <sant0sh> Everyone knows about bubble sort?
10:40 PM <ramrutha> yes
10:40 PM <Abhishek_Jain> yea
10:40 PM <chetusa> oblivious?
10:40 PM <samruda> yes
10:40 PM <nerret> @sant0sh yes
10:40 PM <chetusa> yes
10:40 PM <Vaishnavi> Yes
10:41 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  did you saw todays TOI?
10:41 PM <abhiramr> yes
10:41 PM <nerret> about hackerearth
10:41 PM <sant0sh> hackdroid, later :P in between a session now
10:41 PM <abhiramr> hackdroid: session in progress. we'll chat later
10:41 PM <nerret> @sant0sh no deviation please
10:41 PM <nerret> @hackdroid*
10:41 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh   oops!
10:41 PM <sant0sh> can someone explain the logic of bubble sort?
10:41 PM <nitesh> sant0sh: does not promote his company on #fsmk
10:42 PM <sant0sh> +1
10:42 PM <nitesh> i was being sarcastic
10:42 PM <sant0sh> pingall: can someone explain the logic of bubble sort?
10:42 PM <PyBot^> hackdroid, coolbhavi, nitesh, abraar, nerret, pallavi, localhost1, chetusa, Vaishnavi, ramrutha, samruda, Abhishek_Jain, vrishabh, bhoom, maheshkumar, 6A4AAOQV9, abhiramr, psacrifice|away, dash-rai, kaustavdm
10:42 PM <PyBot^> can someone explain the logic of bubble sort?
10:42 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  iit is basically done to minimize the no. of comparision
10:43 PM <ramrutha> Each element is compared with the element adjacent to it and swapped if bigger/smaller in each pass.
10:43 PM <Abhishek_Jain> The basic logic is we keep comparing two adjacent numbers and the largest number is shifted to last
10:43 PM <abhiramr> swapped only if bigger
10:43 PM <Abhishek_Jain> +1 Ramrutha Abhiram
10:43 PM <hackdroid> @abhiramr   it depends
10:43 PM <ramrutha> At the end of each pass an element is bubbled to its  place
10:43 PM <Vaishnavi> Sorting in which succesivd elements are exchanged when the compared is lesser
10:43 PM <abhiramr> okay yeah, for ascending/descending
10:44 PM <sant0sh> great!
10:44 PM <sant0sh> :)
10:44 PM <sant0sh> let me summarize
10:45 PM <sant0sh> "The bubble sort makes multiple passes through a list. It compares adjacent items and exchanges those that are out of order. Each pass through the list places the next largest value in its proper place. In essence, each item “bubbles” up to the location where it belongs."
10:45 PM <abraar> Perfect summary ;)
10:45 PM <sant0sh> anyone who didnt understand please ping! :)
10:46 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  proceed :)
10:46 PM <sant0sh> ok before going into more of the topic
10:46 PM <nerret> let's implement
10:46 PM <sant0sh> I would like to know who all know python
10:46 PM <nerret> basic python
10:46 PM <abhiramr> me
10:46 PM <ramrutha> me
10:46 PM <samruda> me
10:46 PM <abraar> Basic python ..yes
10:46 PM <sant0sh> let me rephrase the question! who don't know basic python
10:46 PM <chetusa> barely something...
10:46 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  still learning
10:47 PM <Vaishnavi> Me
10:47 PM <Abhishek_Jain> I dont know
10:47 PM <Vaishnavi> Idk
10:47 PM <sant0sh> hmm ok!
10:47 PM <sant0sh> no problem!
10:47 PM <Abhishek_Jain> @vaishnavi Dont use Sms Language :P
10:47 PM <sant0sh> +1 Abhishek_Jain :)
10:47 PM <Vaishnavi> I don't know. :P
10:47 PM <abraar> Laugh out loud :p
10:48 PM <hackdroid> @abhishek-jain  santosh : concentrate plz
10:48 PM <hackdroid> please
10:48 PM <chetusa> "plz"
10:48 PM <nerret> IDK is fine :P
10:48 PM <nerret> it's Internet language
10:48 PM <sant0sh> hackdroid, your identity?
10:48 PM <coolbhavi> jargons are fine I guess...
10:48 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh    shall never be revealed :P
10:49 PM <sant0sh> oh yes its fine coolbhavi
10:49 PM <sant0sh> :)
10:49 PM <sant0sh> I wish i was op
10:49 PM <sant0sh> anyways lets get back to session
10:49 PM <sant0sh> lets get started with basics of python
10:49 PM <coolbhavi> sant0sh, I dont know as I'm a newbie here and m just assuming :)
10:49 PM <sant0sh> coolbhavi, using standard rules in irc here!
10:49 PM <sant0sh> coolbhavi, using standard rules of irc here!
10:49 PM — hackdroid was waiting for this day :)
10:50 PM <nitesh> sant0sh: even if you were op you cannot find out. He/She is connected via scrollback
10:50 PM — hackdroid python learning finally
10:50 PM <nerret> nitesh +1
10:50 PM <sant0sh> I would have banned that person
10:50 PM <sant0sh> :D
10:50 PM <nerret> yeah :P
10:50 PM — Abhishek_Jain is excited !
10:50 PM <abhiramr> Guys, let sant0sh talk. Don't side-track
10:50 PM <coolbhavi> sant0sh, :)
10:50 PM <nerret> @coolbhavi okay.
10:50 PM <sant0sh> yea sorry
10:50 PM <nerret> sant0sh go ahead
10:51 PM <sant0sh> what is python?
10:51 PM <sant0sh> its question for everyone
10:51 PM <coolbhavi> sant0sh, python is a scripting language with oops concepts in it a bit :)
10:52 PM <abraar> Python is a programming or scripting language ..its easy to learn coz its more like english
10:52 PM <ramrutha> Also Its easy to implement because of the vast collection of libraries
10:53 PM <sant0sh> Then?
10:53 PM <abhiramr> python is an interpreter based scripting langauge. although it takes a lot of time to execute, it's useful for automation as number of lines of code is lesser
10:53 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh and its interpreter based
10:53 PM <abraar> Works at interpretive mode
10:53 PM <samruda> and it is interpreted
10:53 PM <hackdroid> @abhiramr  :P same points same time:P
10:53 PM <coolbhavi> abhiramr, takes lot of time to execute?
10:54 PM <sant0sh> abhiramr, ^^^
10:54 PM <abhiramr> coolbhavi: Python is what you call a heavier language. so the same code takes more resources n time to execute compared to traditional C
10:55 PM <coolbhavi> abhiramr, heavier? how do u compare with say Java? :)
10:55 PM <abhiramr> coolbhavi: I have not worked with Java. sant0sh to the rescue
10:55 PM <chetusa> C is very close to hardware... so, its fast
10:56 PM <chetusa> heavier languages are further away which makes them relatively slower..
10:56 PM <abhiramr> chetusa: Also C is a procedural way of program. no objects/instances
10:56 PM <chetusa> correct!
10:56 PM <nerret> chetus: explain the terms "close" an "further"
10:56 PM <nerret> and*
10:56 PM <chetusa> its not oop...
10:56 PM <abhiramr> whereas Java, Python , C++ are all objected oriented
10:56 PM <coolbhavi> chetusa, commands module lets u to interact with system
10:57 PM <nerret> chetusa: what do you mean by close to the hardware?
10:57 PM — hackdroid wondering where is santosh
10:57 PM <sant0sh> me listening to debate
10:57 PM <sant0sh> go on!
10:57 PM — nitesh thinks sant0sh is watching naruto
10:58 PM — nerret thinks or wathcing something else
10:58 PM <chetusa> The word "low" refers to the small or nonexistent amount of   abstraction   between the language and machine language; because of this, low-level languages are sometimes described as being "close to the hardware".
10:58 PM <sant0sh> let me summarize in technical words
10:58 PM <chetusa> source: wiki.. :P
10:58 PM <sant0sh> "Python is a general-purpose interpreted, interactive, object-oriented and high-level programming language."
10:59 PM <chetusa> I could not come out with proper statements.. :
10:59 PM <sant0sh> others you with the flow right?
10:59 PM <Abhishek_Jain> yea
10:59 PM <ramrutha> yup
10:59 PM <abhiramr> what do you mean by general-purpose?
10:59 PM <Vaishnavi> Yea
10:59 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  yeah go on
10:59 PM <nerret> But C is a high level language, right?
10:59 PM <chetusa> ya
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10:59 PM <abraar> Yes
11:00 PM <abhiramr> is there languages with a specific purpose?
11:00 PM <abhiramr> sant0sh: ^^^ ?
11:00 PM <sant0sh> http://hck.re/aELwuh
11:01 PM <sant0sh> @all^^^
11:01 PM <sant0sh> check this link which explains about general purpose programming languages
11:01 PM <abhiramr> yeah, got it
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11:01 PM <abhiramr> they have a wide variety of applications
11:02 PM <nitesh> abhiramr: all of them have a single purpose, to convert from one form to another form
11:02 PM  ↔ sarathms nipped out
11:02 PM <abhiramr> nitesh:  are you talking about high level to machine code? those forms?
11:02 PM <nitesh> yeah
11:03 PM <abhiramr> +1
11:03 PM <sant0sh> Python is Interpreted language: This means that it is processed at runtime by the interpreter
11:03 PM <sant0sh>  and you do not need to compile your program before executing it.
11:04 PM <sant0sh> python is interactive: it means the you can sit in the python shell and start writing programs directly
11:04 PM <sant0sh> python is object oriented language
11:05 PM <sant0sh> its takes the concept of abstractions and encapsulation techniques
11:05 PM <sant0sh> and yes python is beginners language
11:05 PM <sant0sh> quite easy to learn
11:05 PM <sant0sh> so till here everyone understood?
11:05 PM <abhiramr> yes
11:05 PM <chetusa> y
11:05 PM <ramrutha> @abhiramr yes
11:05 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  yes
11:05 PM <Vaishnavi> Yes
11:06 PM <ramrutha> @sant0sh yes
11:06 PM — hackdroid teach teach!teach!
11:06 PM <sant0sh> great! :)
11:06 PM <Abhishek_Jain> yea
11:06 PM <sant0sh> if at any point someone doesnt understand just stop me there
11:06 PM <chetusa> ok
11:07 PM <sant0sh> python name doesnt refer from snake
11:07 PM <nerret> damn. I typed so much. I was offline
11:07 PM <abhiramr> comes from Monty Python
11:07 PM <chetusa> monty python! :)
11:07 PM <abhiramr> a comic series
11:07 PM <sant0sh> The creator Guido van Rossum loves a series called Monty Python
11:08 PM <Abhishek_Jain> oh cool :)
11:08 PM <chetusa> yup!
11:08 PM <sant0sh> -_-
11:08 PM <sant0sh> because of which he named the language python
11:08 PM <sant0sh> python is under GPL!
11:09 PM <abhiramr> GNU Public Licence - an open source licence
11:09 PM <nitesh> *free
11:09 PM <nitesh> it is a free software license
11:09 PM <abhiramr> my bad.
11:09 PM <abhiramr> it's a  a free, copyleft license
11:09 PM <sant0sh> nitesh, +1
11:09 PM <abhiramr> correction ^^^
11:10 PM <sant0sh> let me assume everyone is using linux
11:10 PM <ramrutha> General Public licence
11:10 PM <Abhishek_Jain> yea obviously
11:10 PM <nitesh> *GNU/Linux
11:10 PM <abhiramr> GNU/linux here
11:10 PM <abhiramr> lol
11:10 PM <ramrutha> yes
11:10 PM <hackdroid> i am
11:10 PM <nerret> haha
11:10 PM <sant0sh> open your terminal
11:10 PM <nerret> ramrutha, virtualbox not counted :P
11:11 PM <chetusa> nope!
11:11 PM <abraar> +1 nerret
11:11 PM — Abhishek_Jain says nice one nerret
11:11 PM <sant0sh> ctrl+alt+T in "ubuntu?
11:11 PM <chetusa> internet nor working on ubuntu.. :( connection only on windows.... :(
11:11 PM <ramrutha> @nerret  go die
11:11 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  following
11:11 PM <chetusa> *connection working
11:11 PM <sant0sh> stop trolling please!
11:12 PM <nerret> sant0sh, okay boss
11:12 PM <sant0sh> did everyone open their terminal?
11:12 PM <ramrutha> sorry sir
11:12 PM <chetusa> wired connection acting weird... :/
11:12 PM <abhiramr> yes
11:12 PM <nerret> @abhiramr yes
11:12 PM <nerret> yes
11:12 PM <ramrutha> yes
11:12 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  please continue
11:12 PM <sant0sh> type "python"
11:13 PM <sant0sh> you will get into interactive shell of python
11:13 PM <abhiramr> done
11:13 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh got it
11:13 PM <Abhishek_Jain> yea
11:13 PM <ramrutha> @sant0sh yes
11:13 PM <sant0sh> let start by printing data
11:14 PM <sant0sh> how do you print in C?
11:14 PM <sant0sh> command
11:14 PM <Abhishek_Jain> printf
11:14 PM <sant0sh> c++
11:14 PM <sant0sh> ?
11:14 PM <chetusa> cout<<
11:14 PM <ramrutha> print "hello"
11:14 PM <nerret> printf()
11:14 PM <chetusa> c++!!
11:14 PM <nerret> cout<<
11:14 PM <hackdroid> cout<<
11:14 PM <sant0sh> ok
11:14 PM <sant0sh> in python you have to type
11:14 PM <chetusa> @ramtutha its python code that u told
11:14 PM <sant0sh> print 'hello world'
11:15 PM <ramrutha> yes
11:15 PM <ramrutha> @chetusa +1
11:15 PM <chetusa> he asked c++ :P
11:15 PM <sant0sh> NOTE: this works in python 2.7
11:15 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh working
11:15 PM <sant0sh> in python 3.3 you have use brackets ()
11:15 PM <sant0sh> great!
11:15 PM <chetusa> really?
11:16 PM <sant0sh> chetusa, really for?
11:16 PM <nitesh> using brackets
11:16 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  go on
11:16 PM <sant0sh> chetusa, yes  in python 3.3 you need to use brackets
11:16 PM <nerret> I have 2.7.6
11:16 PM <nerret> @sant0sh should I update?
11:16 PM <Abhishek_Jain> i too have 2.7
11:16 PM <ramrutha> 2.7.5
11:17 PM <brat197> 2.7.* is fine.
11:17 PM <chetusa> Are you using the camp disc? As far as i knw the camp disc has updated one
11:17 PM <sant0sh> no need
11:17 PM <sant0sh> we are working in python 2.7
11:17 PM <nitesh> there are two versions of the interpreters
11:17 PM <hackdroid> @chetusa  it has 2.7.6
11:17 PM <nitesh> i have 2.7 and 3.4 on mine
11:17 PM <nerret> no, not the camp distro
11:18 PM <chetusa> tried typing python and tab twice?
11:18 PM <nerret> nitesh, how to switch? I too have both I think
11:18 PM <chetusa> it shows all the versions available..
11:18 PM <nitesh> pingall: it is not important
11:18 PM <brat197> use 2.7 ....
11:18 PM <chetusa> @brat197 yup
11:18 PM <nitesh> let him continue
11:18 PM <chetusa> +1
11:18 PM <sant0sh> if you are using python3.3 then you can shift to python2.7 by typing command in console "python2.7"
11:18 PM <nerret> okay (y)
11:18 PM <sant0sh> lets get back!
11:18 PM <nitesh> or python2
11:19 PM <sant0sh> what are the basic arithmetic operations?
11:19 PM <nerret> addition, sub, mul, div
11:19 PM <nerret> power, sqrt
11:19 PM <ramrutha> +,-,*,/
11:19 PM <nerret> not basic*
11:19 PM <hackdroid> @nerret mod
11:19 PM <nitesh> **
11:19 PM <nerret> @niteshmod yeah
11:19 PM <chetusa> power
11:19 PM <chetusa> is **
11:19 PM <chetusa> exponent
11:19 PM <nerret> yup.
11:20 PM <sant0sh> that should be enough for nnow
11:20 PM <sant0sh> now*
11:20 PM <sant0sh> you can use those operations directly in python console
11:20 PM <sant0sh> 2+2
11:20 PM <sant0sh> 3*3
11:20 PM <sant0sh> like wise experiment with it
11:20 PM <sant0sh> 2 min time
11:20 PM <nerret> done
11:20 PM — Abhishek_Jain is playing with numbers in python
11:20 PM <chetusa> interactive environment.. giv an input it gives an output,, :)
11:21 PM <ramrutha> done
11:21 PM <sant0sh> try exponents
11:21 PM <sant0sh> powers
11:21 PM <sant0sh> etc
11:21 PM <nerret> a**b
11:21 PM <ramrutha> **
11:21 PM <ramrutha> for exponents
11:21 PM <sant0sh> ok fine
11:21 PM <sant0sh> lets move on
11:22 PM <nerret> yeah
11:22 PM <sant0sh> there is no initializing variable here
11:22 PM <sant0sh> like you used to do in C, C++ or Java
11:22 PM <sant0sh> you can directly use the variable
11:23 PM <sant0sh> example
11:23 PM <sant0sh> temp = 1
11:23 PM <nerret> I object
11:23 PM <sant0sh> stores integer value in temp variable
11:23 PM <sant0sh> nerret, yes
11:23 PM <nerret> @sant0sh you are initializing there
11:23 PM <nerret> you are not defining*
11:23 PM <brat197> *declaring
11:23 PM <sant0sh> sorry i mean declaring
11:23 PM <sant0sh> :D
11:23 PM <nerret> @sant0sh yup. declaring is the right word :D
11:23 PM <sant0sh> thanks for pointing out
11:23 PM <nerret> @sant0sh :)
11:24 PM <sant0sh> you need not declare in python
11:24 PM <sant0sh> only initializing
11:24 PM <hackdroid> is it like js
11:24 PM <sant0sh> string1 = "hello,wold"
11:24 PM <sant0sh> farhaan No
11:24 PM <sant0sh> its not like js
11:24 PM <chetusa> in js you say var a=""
11:24 PM <sant0sh> you declare using var right!
11:24 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh having two datatype numbers and strings?
11:24 PM <sant0sh> not here like that
11:24 PM <chetusa> but here you dont even need to do that
11:25 PM <chetusa> declare a variable.. anything
11:25 PM <sant0sh> hackdroid, i didnt understand your question
11:25 PM <chetusa> and trye type( name )
11:25 PM <chetusa> *try
11:25 PM <chetusa> eg a=3.5
11:25 PM <chetusa> type(a)
11:26 PM <nerret> int
11:26 PM <sant0sh> chetusa, i'll go to that topic! please don't go ahead
11:26 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  js has only two datatypes string and number irrespective of float int char etc
11:26 PM <chetusa> ok
11:26 PM <chetusa> @hackdroid sorry
11:26 PM <chetusa> @santosh sorry
11:26 PM <sant0sh> hackdroid, in python we have 5 datatypes
11:26 PM <sant0sh> @all^^^
11:27 PM <sant0sh> 1.number
11:27 PM <sant0sh> 2.strings
11:27 PM <sant0sh> 3.list
11:27 PM <sant0sh> 4.tuple
11:27 PM <sant0sh> 5.dictionary
11:27 PM <nerret> cool
11:27 PM <sant0sh> Everyone is in flow with the session?
11:27 PM <nerret> @sant0sh yes
11:27 PM <ramrutha> @sant0sh yes
11:27 PM <Abhishek_Jain> yes
11:27 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  elaborate on 3 4 5
11:27 PM <Vaishnavi> Yea
11:27 PM <abhiramr> yes
11:27 PM <chetusa> y
11:27 PM <sant0sh> hackdroid, please hold the seat i'll tell you soon
11:28 PM <sant0sh> Numbers
11:28 PM — hackdroid is sorry , got excited
11:28 PM <sant0sh> you can initialize a variable as number using like this
11:28 PM <sant0sh> var1 = 1
11:28 PM <sant0sh> var1 = 2
11:28 PM <sant0sh> var3 = 2.3
11:28 PM <chetusa> @sant0sh ?
11:28 PM <sant0sh> you can use type(var1)
11:29 PM <chetusa> var1=1 or 2?
11:29 PM <sant0sh> to find out about the variable type
11:29 PM <sant0sh> var1 = 1
11:29 PM <sant0sh> var2 = 3
11:29 PM <sant0sh> its just an example
11:29 PM <nerret> chetusa, it will just replace the old value :P
11:30 PM <sant0sh> lets move on to strings
11:30 PM <chetusa> ya... i knw
11:30 PM <chetusa> :P
11:30 PM <sant0sh> you can define string in single quotes('), double quotes(") or triple quotes(''')
11:30 PM <sant0sh> example
11:30 PM <sant0sh> string1 = 'hello'
11:30 PM <sant0sh> string2 = "hello"
11:30 PM <sant0sh> string3 = '''hello world'''
11:31 PM <nerret> any significance about triple quotes?
11:31 PM <sant0sh> yes
11:31 PM <nerret> what?
11:31 PM <sant0sh> you can use triple quotes to comment code also
11:31 PM <Abhishek_Jain> it prints the quotes also
11:31 PM <sant0sh> will tell you later about that
11:31 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  why all three? significance?
11:31 PM <sant0sh> its also used to print in multiple lines
11:31 PM <nerret> @sant0sh okay
11:32 PM <sant0sh> say you want to print like this
11:32 PM <nerret> @sant0sh yeah I tried
11:32 PM <sant0sh> this's new
11:32 PM <sant0sh> you can use single quote to do that
11:32 PM <nerret> in interpreter for multiple lines, ''' can be used
11:32 PM <sant0sh> you can't use single quote to do that
11:32 PM <sant0sh> that is
11:32 PM <sant0sh> 'this's new'
11:32 PM <sant0sh> will print "this"
11:32 PM <sant0sh> and will raise error for rest
11:33 PM <sant0sh> so you have to use
11:33 PM <sant0sh> "this's new"
11:33 PM <sant0sh> understood?
11:33 PM <nerret> Yes :D
11:33 PM <nerret> cool stuff
11:33 PM <ramrutha> @sant0sh yes
11:33 PM <nerret> sant0sh, objection again
11:33 PM <sant0sh> nerret, go on
11:34 PM <nerret> @sant0sh to print  this's new, you should use triple quotes
11:34 PM <nerret> '''this's new'''
11:34 PM <sant0sh> you can also use double quotes
11:34 PM <nerret> @sant0sh okay. sorry. I used two single quotes and tried
11:35 PM <sant0sh> nevermind lets move on
11:35 PM <nerret> two single quotes and double quote are different
11:35 PM <sant0sh> yes
11:35 PM <nerret> @sant0sh cool
11:35 PM <sant0sh> regarding other datatypes will explain in later state
11:36 PM <nerret> sure.
11:36 PM <sant0sh> now more on comparison operators
11:36 PM <nerret> you mean tomorrow?
11:36 PM <sant0sh> now
11:36 PM <sant0sh> if you guys can stay awake till 12
11:36 PM <sant0sh> :)
11:36 PM <nerret> yeah, can stay.
11:36 PM <sant0sh> pingall: shall i continue now or will continue tomorrow?
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11:36 PM <PyBot^> shall i continue now or will continue tomorrow?
11:36 PM <Abhishek_Jain> yea
11:36 PM <ramrutha> continue
11:36 PM <Vaishnavi> Nw
11:36 PM <Abhishek_Jain> continue
11:36 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  if you go on i dont mind going till 4
11:37 PM <sant0sh> lets go on then! :)
11:37 PM <chetusa> continue
11:37 PM <abhiramr> whoever wants to leave can follow the log.
11:37 PM <sant0sh> = is simple assignment operator
11:37 PM <abhiramr> both log and summary will be posted in the group
11:37 PM <sant0sh> == is comparing the two variable
11:38 PM <Abhishek_Jain> same as other languages :P
11:38 PM <sant0sh> more you can google about it
11:38 PM <sant0sh> yes its very much similar to other languages
11:38 PM <nerret> duckduckgo*
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11:39 PM <sant0sh> you can also use logical operators such as
11:39 PM <chetusa> check on the internet.. :P
11:39 PM <sant0sh> not
11:39 PM <sant0sh> and
11:39 PM <sant0sh> or
11:39 PM <sant0sh> 1.not
11:39 PM <sant0sh> 2.and
11:39 PM <sant0sh> 3.or
11:39 PM <sant0sh> lets jump to decision making
11:39 PM <sant0sh> condition I mean
11:40 PM <sant0sh> if, else if etc
11:40 PM <sant0sh> who doesnt know if construct in C?
11:40 PM <sant0sh> @all^^^
11:41 PM <nerret> everybody knows, I am assuming
11:41 PM <ramrutha> yup
11:41 PM <sant0sh> lets not assume!
11:41 PM <nerret> ok.. I am assuring.
11:42 PM <chetusa> seems like every1 knows..
11:42 PM <sant0sh> it will be good if you all respond quickly!
11:42 PM <sant0sh> so that session goes faster
11:42 PM <sant0sh> :)
11:42 PM <Abhishek_Jain> yea sure
11:43 PM <hackdroid> go on
11:43 PM <abhiramr> yeah
11:43 PM <sant0sh> the syntax of if loop is:
11:43 PM <Vaishnavi> Continue
11:43 PM <sant0sh> ok me continuing now
11:43 PM <sant0sh> the syntax of if loop is:
11:43 PM <sant0sh> if condition:
11:43 PM <sant0sh>    data
11:43 PM <sant0sh> example:
11:44 PM <sant0sh> if 2==2:
11:44 PM <sant0sh>     print "true"
11:44 PM <sant0sh> you can see white space over there
11:44 PM <sant0sh> that is indentation
11:44 PM <sant0sh> another super power of python
11:44 PM <sant0sh> you dont need to put brackets like C or c++
11:44 PM <abhiramr> Everyone, read this in your free time : http://pymbook.readthedocs.org/. Bookmark this link. Whenever you have a doubt, refer this!
11:44 PM — nitesh if loop?
11:45 PM <sant0sh> just use indentation
11:45 PM <sant0sh> indentation is 4 spaces or 1 tab
11:45 PM <sant0sh> indentation is like brackets in python
11:45 PM <sant0sh> is it working in your terminal
11:45 PM <sant0sh> @all??
11:45 PM <sant0sh> try implementing if loop
11:45 PM <nerret> @sant0sh if loop?
11:45 PM <nerret> or if conditional?
11:46 PM <abhiramr> http://pymbook.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ifelse.html#if-statement
11:46 PM <sant0sh> if condition
11:46 PM <abhiramr> Implement this ^
11:46 PM <nitesh> if construct is a better term
11:46 PM <hackdroid> not happening erroe with print statement
11:47 PM <ramrutha> indentation error
11:47 PM <sant0sh> wait let me send you the code
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11:47 PM <chetusa> four spaces or one tab space isn't it..
11:47 PM <abhiramr> hackdroid: use pastebin.com to paste the error
11:47 PM <abhiramr> sant0sh: u can use this http://pymbook.readthedocs.org/en/latest/ifelse.html#if-statement
11:47 PM <nitesh> one more thing, if you want to send some code or output use the something like pastebin
11:47 PM <hackdroid> @abhiramr IndentationError: expected an indented block
11:48 PM <hackdroid> >>> if 2==2:
11:48 PM <hackdroid> ... print "true"
11:48 PM <hackdroid>   File "<stdin>", line 2
11:48 PM <hackdroid>     print "true"
11:48 PM <hackdroid>         ^
11:48 PM <hackdroid> IndentationError: expected an indented block
11:48 PM <sant0sh> http://code.hackerearth.com/b266d6r
11:48 PM <sant0sh> check this
11:48 PM <ramrutha> okay got it
11:48 PM <nerret> hackdroid: use a tab space
11:48 PM <nitesh> hackdroid: use pastebin
11:48 PM <nerret> and please don't paste the code here
11:48 PM <abhiramr> hackdroid: use pastebin.com
11:48 PM <sant0sh> try checking the codevideo side to see how its done
11:48 PM <sant0sh> when everyone is ready ping me
11:48 PM <nerret> http://ideone.com/6hbtTY
11:49 PM — abhiramr feels codetable is cool
11:49 PM <nerret> sant0sh: ping
11:49 PM <nitesh> use something like http://paste.debian.net/ to paste code or output
11:49 PM <sant0sh> anything is fine!
11:50 PM <nerret> or paste.ubuntu.com :P
11:50 PM <brat197> +1 for codetable
11:50 PM <nitesh> ya anything
11:50 PM ⇐ Vaishnavi quit ([email protected]) Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com )
11:50 PM <nitesh> don't paste on channel
11:50 PM <ramrutha> @sant0sh done
11:50 PM <sant0sh> great! :)
11:50 PM <abhiramr> sant0sh: We'll end at 12.
11:50 PM <sant0sh> sure
11:50 PM <chetusa> @sant0sh  I need a workspace..
11:51 PM <sant0sh> i said codetable because you can see how i coded in that using codeVideo in right panel!
11:51 PM <chetusa> I dont have python on windows...
11:51 PM <sant0sh> try code.hackerearth.com
11:51 PM <nerret> you can install
11:51 PM <sant0sh> you can compile codes there
11:51 PM <sant0sh> :)
11:51 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  great
11:51 PM <chetusa> ty
11:51 PM <brat197> advertisement zyada ho gaya
11:52 PM <nerret> haha
11:52 PM <sant0sh> :D
11:52 PM <abhiramr> lol
11:52 PM <nitesh> +1 brat197
11:52 PM <sant0sh> ok lets get back to session
11:52 PM <nerret> increment milega
11:52 PM — hackdroid codetable is sweet :)
11:52 PM <sant0sh> http://code.hackerearth.com/b266d6r
11:52 PM <sant0sh> check this
11:53 PM <sant0sh> on how to implement if-else
11:53 PM <sant0sh> when done ping me
11:54 PM <nerret> @sant0sh ping
11:54 PM <abhiramr> working
11:54 PM <abhiramr> sant0sh:
11:54 PM <sant0sh> nerret, tell me
11:54 PM <ramrutha> @sant0sh done
11:54 PM <nerret> you asked to ping when done
11:54 PM <nerret> :P
11:54 PM <ramrutha> @nerret  :D
11:54 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh done
11:54 PM <sant0sh> ok great!@
11:55 PM <sant0sh> will move to next
11:55 PM <sant0sh> everyone knows about for loop right?
11:55 PM <abhiramr> yes
11:55 PM <ramrutha> @sant0sh yes
11:55 PM <hackdroid> yeah
11:55 PM <sant0sh> who doesnt know please tell me quickly
11:56 PM <brat197> finish off today by showing them how to swap two variables :P
11:56 PM <sant0sh> :)
11:56 PM <Abhishek_Jain> yes
11:56 PM <sant0sh> ok will move to for loops
11:57 PM <sant0sh> range(10)
11:57 PM <sant0sh> displays from 0 to 9
11:57 PM <sant0sh> try in your terminal
11:57 PM <nerret> yes
11:58 PM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  that was so cool
11:58 PM <Abhishek_Jain> done
11:58 PM <sant0sh> great! :)
11:58 PM <ramrutha> @sant0sh done
11:58 PM <sant0sh> syntax of for loop is
11:58 PM <sant0sh> for iterating_var in sequence:
11:58 PM <sant0sh>    statements(s)
11:59 PM <sant0sh> for example check this
11:59 PM <sant0sh> http://code.hackerearth.com/b266d6r
11:59 PM <sant0sh> when done tell me'
11:59 PM <abhiramr> done
12:00 AM <nerret> @sant0sh done
12:00 AM <ramrutha> @sant0sh done
12:00 AM <sant0sh> anywhere you guys stuck in?
12:00 AM <sant0sh> any doubts?
12:00 AM <nerret> @sant0sh how to give custom range?
12:00 AM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  cool
12:01 AM <sant0sh> range(4,10)
12:01 AM <sant0sh> nerret, ^^^
12:01 AM <nerret> @sant0sh cool.. thanks
12:01 AM <nerret> done
12:01 AM <sant0sh> great!
12:01 AM <sant0sh> now i hope you know for loop
12:01 AM <chetusa> @sant0sh
12:01 AM <sant0sh> :)
12:01 AM <sant0sh> chetusa, yes tell
12:02 AM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  so every time we use for loop we use this way only not the  usual syntax?
12:02 AM <chetusa> @sant0sh if i give tab space or space there
12:02 AM <chetusa> it gives error
12:02 AM <chetusa> but i put print"asdad"
12:02 AM <chetusa> its working
12:02 AM <sant0sh> where did you execute
12:02 AM <sant0sh> in codetable^^^
12:02 AM <nerret> chetusa, send the link
12:02 AM <sant0sh> chetusa, yes send the link
12:02 AM <chetusa> @sant0sh ya
12:03 AM <sant0sh> in codetable it automatically puts space or tab
12:03 AM <sant0sh> you need not put explicitly
12:03 AM <Abhishek_Jain> it works even if we give more than one tab..i tried it works
12:04 AM <sant0sh> oh is it
12:04 AM <sant0sh> send the link Abhishek_Jain ^^^
12:04 AM <Abhishek_Jain> http://code.hackerearth.com/5afc12V
12:04 AM <chetusa> @sant0sh http://code.hackerearth.com/cab8bbX
12:05 AM <sant0sh> chetusa, else is under the if loop
12:05 AM <nerret> @chetusa your else has gone inside the if
12:05 AM <sant0sh> see the indentation
12:05 AM <nerret> it should come out
12:05 AM <Abhishek_Jain> @santosh It works right ?
12:05 AM <sant0sh> haha yes
12:06 AM <nerret> chetusa, check http://code.hackerearth.com/181054D
12:06 AM <sant0sh> anyways lets finish it here!
12:06 AM <nerret> I fixed your code
12:06 AM <sant0sh> will get back to you when you guys want another session
12:06 AM <sant0sh> :)
12:06 AM <nerret> @sant0sh come tomorrow
12:06 AM <abhiramr> sant0sh: Giving assignment?
12:06 AM <hackdroid> santosh coming tomorrow? right?
12:06 AM <Abhishek_Jain> yea see you tomorrow Santosh
12:07 AM <nerret> yeah, assignment please
12:07 AM <sant0sh> one assignment
12:07 AM <sant0sh> to all
12:07 AM <nerret> i think bubble sort in python would be a good assignment
12:07 AM <sant0sh> *
12:07 AM <sant0sh> **
12:07 AM <sant0sh> ***
12:07 AM <sant0sh> *****
12:07 AM <nerret> @sant0sh that is easy :P
12:07 AM <chetusa> ty
12:07 AM <sant0sh> try to print this in python
12:07 AM <chetusa> @nerret
12:07 AM <sant0sh> question to all
12:07 AM <nerret> @sant0sh will submit now itself
12:07 AM <ramrutha> @sant0sh okay
12:07 AM <chetusa> cool
12:08 AM <sant0sh> pingall: how to swap two numbers
12:08 AM <PyBot^> Mahesh__, brat197, hackdroid, coolbhavi, nitesh, abraar, nerret, pallavi, localhost1, chetusa, ramrutha, samruda, Abhishek_Jain, vrishabh, bhoom, maheshkumar, 6A4AAOQV9, abhiramr, psacrifice|away, dash-rai, kaustavdm
12:08 AM <PyBot^> how to swap two numbers
12:08 AM <Abhishek_Jain> yea cool
12:08 AM <sant0sh> professionals need not answer this
12:08 AM <sant0sh> reply now
12:08 AM — abhiramr types ans erases
12:08 AM <chetusa> for?
12:08 AM <abhiramr> *and
12:08 AM <chetusa> swap or pattern
12:08 AM <chetusa> or both
12:09 AM <sant0sh> a=2
12:09 AM <sant0sh> b=3
12:09 AM <sant0sh> swap these two variables in one line
12:09 AM <hackdroid> @sant0sh using two variable or temporary variable?
12:09 AM <sant0sh> no temporary variable
12:10 AM <hackdroid> a=a+b
12:10 AM <Abhishek_Jain> a=a+b,b=a-b
12:10 AM <hackdroid> b=a-b
12:10 AM <sant0sh> nope
12:10 AM <sant0sh> one line thats it
12:10 AM <hackdroid> a=a-b
12:11 AM — Abhishek_Jain is thinking ! wait !
12:11 AM <ramrutha> (a,b)=(b,a)
12:11 AM <Abhishek_Jain> a=a+b && b=a-b
12:11 AM <chetusa> @ramrutha +1
12:12 AM <abhiramr> sant0sh: the cat is outta the bag :P
12:12 AM <ramrutha> :-D
12:12 AM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  i still didnt get that
12:12 AM <sant0sh> ramrutha, good
12:13 AM <sant0sh> the answer is
12:13 AM <sant0sh> a,b=b,a
12:13 AM <hackdroid> @sant0sh  elaborate plz
12:13 AM <abhiramr> Repeating the assignment - "Please write a Python script to print the following pattern using loops http://pastebin.com/zskDZGg8"
12:13 AM <sant0sh> ramrutha, ^^^
12:14 AM <abhiramr> hackdroid: we'll finish off with attendance. then u can ask sant0sh
12:14 AM <abhiramr> Attendace
12:14 AM <abhiramr> Abhiram R
12:14 AM <sant0sh> cool
12:14 AM <hackdroid> hackdroid
12:14 AM <sant0sh> abhiramr, let me make your task easier
12:14 AM <ramrutha> its more like re-assigning values
12:14 AM <sant0sh> pingall: yell your name
12:14 AM <PyBot^> Mahesh__, brat197, hackdroid, coolbhavi, nitesh, abraar, nerret, pallavi, localhost1, chetusa, ramrutha, samruda, Abhishek_Jain, vrishabh, bhoom, maheshkumar, 6A4AAOQV9, abhiramr, psacrifice|away, dash-rai, kaustavdm
12:14 AM <PyBot^> yell your name
12:15 AM — abhiramr thanks PyBot^
12:15 AM <chetusa> Chaitanya
12:15 AM <sant0sh> hackdroid, farhan
12:15 AM <Abhishek_Jain> Abhishek
12:15 AM <ramrutha> Amrutha
12:15 AM <abhiramr> < -- SESSION 4 END -- >