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- May 03 12:04:31 <DeadSuperHero> Well, might as well get started.
- May 03 12:04:47 <DeadSuperHero> So, welcome to this week's Code Chat.
- May 03 12:05:16 <DeadSuperHero> There's been a lot of great development coming from the core team, as well as some great community work that is currently being cooked up.
- May 03 12:05:31 * luke_ (~luke@46.Red-79-153-96.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) has joined #diaspora-meeting
- May 03 12:05:36 <SlackerD> ohai luke
- May 03 12:05:39 <luke_> ohai
- May 03 12:05:41 <DeadSuperHero> First and foremost, we've been going through a great documentation cleanup to our wiki once again.
- May 03 12:05:52 <maxwell> w00t
- May 03 12:05:55 <DeadSuperHero> We're purging old documents that are no longer relevant or technical
- May 03 12:06:10 <DeadSuperHero> and are refactoring existing documents to be up-to-date and be much cleaner and easier to understand.
- May 03 12:06:28 <DeadSuperHero> I've been crawling through well over 100 wiki pages so far
- May 03 12:06:39 <DeadSuperHero> looking at things that can be cleaned up, shifted around, linked to, etc.
- May 03 12:07:09 <DeadSuperHero> We're looking to have further discussions about it on our Diaspora-dev mailing list, so if anyone has any suggestions for things we need, or things they're having trouble with that aren't documented, let us know.
- May 03 12:07:33 <DeadSuperHero> Additionally, some guidelines are being drafted for a more standardized writing style
- May 03 12:07:47 <DeadSuperHero> Mainly just for sake of keeping everything clean and legible. Look for it this week.
- May 03 12:08:09 <DeadSuperHero> Secondly, a few of our contributors have been really awesome and kicking things into gear with the BugMash again.
- May 03 12:08:27 <maxwell> yeah also the locate feature
- May 03 12:08:47 <DeadSuperHero> Yeah, we've currently got a locator feature that works similarly to identi.ca's
- May 03 12:08:57 <DeadSuperHero> it's sitting as a Pull Request from a community member
- May 03 12:09:01 <maxwell> trying to get some of the testing stuff in order
- May 03 12:09:17 <maxwell> its a good pull request but he pulled in some testing dependencies that i don't quite understand
- May 03 12:09:39 <maxwell> and jasmine is already confusing for new people
- May 03 12:10:10 <DeadSuperHero> Yeah, it might not be a bad idea to refactor his pull request to just use our existing testing stuff if there's no obvious advantage to pulling more testing deps in
- May 03 12:10:19 <DeadSuperHero> Just food for thought, I guess.
- May 03 12:10:29 <maxwell> yeah
- May 03 12:10:35 <maxwell> i want to hear the guy out
- May 03 12:10:41 <maxwell> maybe it is some new hotness i don't know about
- May 03 12:11:05 <DeadSuperHero> That being said, we're always looking for contributors for the Bug Mash and feature development. There's constantly new things we're adding to the Wishlist, and we're also getting a lot of things knocked off of that list.
- May 03 12:11:05 <maxwell> there is also the good OSM business, but we can change that easily enuf
- May 03 12:11:13 <DeadSuperHero> Yeah, gotta love OSM.
- May 03 12:12:05 <DeadSuperHero> Finally, on the community-facing side of things, we're looking for talented individuals in our community that would be willing to make some community screencasts to go alongside the ones I've been making.
- May 03 12:12:21 <DeadSuperHero> Basically, if you see something that can be done with our code, and it's something we haven't covered, we want to hear from you.
- May 03 12:13:07 <DeadSuperHero> Screencasts are great ways to visually explain to people how to work with our platform
- May 03 12:13:23 <DeadSuperHero> and the existing ones we have are a huge help to newcoming developers.
- May 03 12:13:42 <maxwell> yeah DeadSuperHero, perhaps you should publish your tentative list of screenies coming from you?
- May 03 12:13:55 <DeadSuperHero> You bet, look out for it this week.
- May 03 12:14:12 <DeadSuperHero> Heck, look out for it today even.
- May 03 12:14:22 <DeadSuperHero> Moving on.
- May 03 12:14:39 <DeadSuperHero> Maxwell, what kind of awesome developments are the platform going through right now?
- May 03 12:15:04 <maxwell> well, if your tracking our current master, you know that we have been doing lots of new stuff with the publsiher
- May 03 12:15:18 <maxwell> we are taking a slightly different approach to rolling out new features
- May 03 12:15:18 <DeadSuperHero> It's pretty awesome.
- May 03 12:15:43 <maxwell> we are trying to stay tracking with master, but feature flagging unfinished features for most users
- May 03 12:15:49 <maxwell> this has many different benifits
- May 03 12:16:00 <maxwell> 1) less merge conflicts from branches in pull requests
- May 03 12:16:09 <maxwell> 2) less long running branches in general
- May 03 12:16:26 <maxwell> 3) we can deploy stuff to a subset of users, even with un-done stuff
- May 03 12:16:42 <maxwell> which lets us see errors sooner, but not distrupt normal alpha users
- May 03 12:17:18 <maxwell> of course, you can check it out for yourself on your own pod, by making a beta role for your account and running D* with the
- May 03 12:17:22 <maxwell> NEW_HOTNESS fla
- May 03 12:17:23 <maxwell> g
- May 03 12:17:35 <DeadSuperHero> It also allows us to test out features manually in a production environment, which is great for usability design.
- May 03 12:17:45 <maxwell> yeah, but it also lets us deploy and try stuff
- May 03 12:17:51 <DeadSuperHero> Right.
- May 03 12:17:53 <maxwell> without having to force it on everyone right away
- May 03 12:18:03 <maxwell> as features do evolve and change
- May 03 12:18:11 <DeadSuperHero> Exactly.
- May 03 12:18:14 <maxwell> and we get friction every time we want to make something better from users
- May 03 12:18:34 <maxwell> so this hopefully will mitigate early iterations where we really change stuff drasticly
- May 03 12:18:43 <maxwell> and we can deploy it when it gets a bit more set in stone
- May 03 12:19:38 <DeadSuperHero> Yeah, it's all pretty great.
- May 03 12:19:57 <maxwell> Yeah, also, we did more to a database driven role system
- May 03 12:20:12 <maxwell> so now you can add admins, beta users, and community spotlight without restarting your server
- May 03 12:20:20 <DeadSuperHero> No more defining roles in application.yml
- May 03 12:20:22 <DeadSuperHero> :D
- May 03 12:20:44 <maxwell> yeah, actually all array based keys are gone
- May 03 12:20:57 <maxwell> which is going to make bootstrapping your own diaspora much easier, and more scriptable
- May 03 12:21:18 <DeadSuperHero> Definitely.
- May 03 12:22:08 <DeadSuperHero> Anyway, our design work right now is focused largely on making the platform easier to use, and easier to understand.
- May 03 12:22:24 <DeadSuperHero> Like Max said, you can track the latest developments in our master branch on github.
- May 03 12:22:24 <maxwell> yeah
- May 03 12:22:50 <maxwell> Also worth nothing, we are going to be trying to build features in non destructive ways
- May 03 12:23:02 <maxwell> but when we lock into some stuff, we are going to be doing a big feature revision
- May 03 12:23:27 <maxwell> meaning, we are going to cut some bad features out while making other bits and pieces more modular
- May 03 12:24:13 <DeadSuperHero> Pretty standard refactoring. The more modular, the better.
- May 03 12:25:04 <DeadSuperHero> But that makes for leaner code to go with that prettier face we're grafting on to it.
- May 03 12:25:15 <maxwell> just like the wiki ;)
- May 03 12:25:22 <DeadSuperHero> Yup yup.
- May 03 12:28:31 <DeadSuperHero> I guess also as a random aside, you might have noticed that a lot of the showpages look much prettier now than they have before.
- May 03 12:28:37 <DeadSuperHero> We've added some new navigation elements into them
- May 03 12:28:51 <DeadSuperHero> and improved the typeface
- May 03 12:28:52 <maxwell> yeah we have been trying to get the stuff on d* look amazing
- May 03 12:29:03 <maxwell> one of our stratagys is around
- May 03 12:29:06 <maxwell> thinking about personal pods
- May 03 12:29:16 <maxwell> and how you can use d* to make awesome stuff you care about
- May 03 12:29:31 <maxwell> and send it out to your friends who are not nessisarly hip to d* yet
- May 03 12:29:41 <maxwell> its been working with our own friends
- May 03 12:29:42 <DeadSuperHero> Basically using your own self expression to define who you are in your own social space.
- May 03 12:29:45 <maxwell> we are getting a lot of
- May 03 12:29:49 <DeadSuperHero> "Hey, what is that?"
- May 03 12:29:51 <maxwell> "Holy shit, what is this? ?? I want this"
- May 03 12:29:52 <maxwell> yes
- May 03 12:30:08 <maxwell> so some types of posts look better than others
- May 03 12:30:15 <DeadSuperHero> We're working on it.
- May 03 12:30:18 <maxwell> but we are trying to pull that in as much as we can
- May 03 12:30:25 <maxwell> if you have a post that looks terrible
- May 03 12:30:29 <bla_> what do you think about people complaining about the single-post view?
- May 03 12:30:43 <DeadSuperHero> Obviously, with any new feature, there's going to be some friction.
- May 03 12:30:51 <maxwell> yeah i think its a bit hard to comment
- May 03 12:30:59 <maxwell> and we did introduce some nav elements
- May 03 12:31:00 <DeadSuperHero> Some people love the new posts view, others not so much.
- May 03 12:31:20 <DeadSuperHero> We're doing what we can to address some concerns to make it more usable, but at the same time look incredible.
- May 03 12:31:53 <DeadSuperHero> At the very least, the addition of nav elements allows for users to easily navigate in and out of the post views.
- May 03 12:33:47 <DeadSuperHero> We're doing a lot of heavy lifting with feature development and design.
- May 03 12:34:09 <DeadSuperHero> So if you don't like something, keep in mind that there's a strong possibility that things are being refactored and improved upon behind the scenes.
- May 03 12:34:11 <xador> hi. can you chose a day of the week when you work on makeing diaspora green so we can update pods with no fear?
- May 03 12:34:21 <maxwell> yeah xador thanks for bring up the buidl
- May 03 12:34:28 <maxwell> there is a weird error right now
- May 03 12:34:34 <maxwell> with some versions of ruby
- May 03 12:34:42 <maxwell> i will do my best to look at them right now
- May 03 12:34:50 <xador> thx
- May 03 12:35:41 <DeadSuperHero> On that note, I think it's safe to move to questions, if our community members have any.
- May 03 12:35:47 <maxwell> I think grippi took out the logged out page
- May 03 12:35:54 <maxwell> so that might be the cause of the current errors
- May 03 12:35:55 <maxwell> :P
- May 03 12:35:57 <DeadSuperHero> :P
- May 03 12:36:01 <maxwell> jerk
- May 03 12:36:24 <maxwell> anybody planning on having some time hack soon?
- May 03 12:36:36 <maxwell> i wish stevenh was here
- May 03 12:36:40 <DeadSuperHero> Me too.
- May 03 12:36:44 * DeadSuperHero loves Stevenh
- May 03 12:36:45 <maxwell> i think i saw him saying he refactored all the email stuffs
- May 03 12:36:51 <DeadSuperHero> Yeah, I'm stoked about that.
- May 03 12:36:51 <maxwell> which will be really nice
- May 03 12:37:15 <maxwell> completely side related
- May 03 12:37:26 <maxwell> anyone worked with a site screenshot service from the command line?
- May 03 12:37:35 * mathis__ has quit (Quit: Page closed)
- May 03 12:37:43 <maxwell> or sort of related, anyone notice you can embed show pages?
- May 03 12:37:59 <maxwell> http://maxattack.tumblr.com/
- May 03 12:38:04 * mathis__ (570641d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.6.65.212) has joined #diaspora-meeting
- May 03 12:38:10 <maxwell> totally beta-fied
- May 03 12:38:26 <DeadSuperHero> Yeah, that stuff is pretty awesome.
- May 03 12:38:26 <maxwell> but we want to make your diaspora stuff look friggen awesome wherever you decide to share it
- May 03 12:39:10 <DeadSuperHero> Regardless of whether it's on our platform, or out all over the social web.
- May 03 12:39:23 <DeadSuperHero> Heck, technically the embeds even work on Friendica.
- May 03 12:40:10 <DeadSuperHero> Being able to share your unique content anywhere is awesome.
- May 03 12:40:41 <DeadSuperHero> Anyway, anyone have any questions?
- May 03 12:40:55 <luke_> yeah
- May 03 12:41:04 <DeadSuperHero> What's up, luke_ ?
- May 03 12:41:13 <pubis> yeah, maybe :p
- May 03 12:41:19 <luke_> I was thining of doing some compatibility work for IE for you guys
- May 03 12:41:27 <DeadSuperHero> That would rock.
- May 03 12:41:33 <luke_> I mainly an ASP.NET dev
- May 03 12:41:39 <maxwell> luke_: omg
- May 03 12:41:46 <maxwell> that would be pretty cool
- May 03 12:41:58 <maxwell> I'm embarrassed to say i have no idea what it looks like
- May 03 12:42:00 <maxwell> but it prob is crap
- May 03 12:42:09 <maxwell> also, we prob are just only going to target latest IE
- May 03 12:42:12 <SlackerD> it works great on IE9
- May 03 12:42:18 <SlackerD> I've tried it
- May 03 12:42:23 <luke_> mainly small CSS stuff and some js
- May 03 12:42:26 <DeadSuperHero> That being said, if you can make it work with like, IE7 or something crazy like that
- May 03 12:42:30 <DeadSuperHero> You would be a god.
- May 03 12:42:36 <luke_> I could easily get most CSS stuff working in IE7 upwards
- May 03 12:42:45 <DeadSuperHero> <3
- May 03 12:42:50 <maxwell> yeah IE7 might even be too much cruft
- May 03 12:42:56 <maxwell> I'm even ok saying IE8
- May 03 12:43:00 <maxwell> but if you can work magic
- May 03 12:43:03 <maxwell> <3
- May 03 12:43:18 <maxwell> we have been going pretty hard on the css3 stuffs
- May 03 12:43:19 <luke_> not sure about JavaScript, because IE7 doesn't support some of the newer parts of the ECMAscript standard
- May 03 12:43:32 <maxwell> yeah i don't think we use any fancy new JS right now
- May 03 12:43:39 <maxwell> mostly css id imagine
- May 03 12:43:45 <maxwell> and then weird box model junk
- May 03 12:43:48 <luke_> a lot of stuff is doable via polyfills
- May 03 12:43:58 <maxwell> cool, that would be great
- May 03 12:44:02 <luke_> so my question was IE7+ would be good?
- May 03 12:44:20 <luke_> IE7 and up I meant
- May 03 12:44:21 <DeadSuperHero> If you can swing it, do it.
- May 03 12:44:35 <maxwell> yes that would be fine. I'd even be cool with IE8+, if that makes your life an order of magnitude easier
- May 03 12:44:37 <DeadSuperHero> We'd be willing to take a look at your Pull Request and test out your fixes.
- May 03 12:45:12 * Topolivan (~AndChat20@89.204.138.7) has joined #diaspora-meeting
- May 03 12:45:18 <luke_> Okay cool, I'll probably go on the dev channel this weekend and get diaspora setup properly
- May 03 12:45:30 <DeadSuperHero> Sweet. If you have any questions, hit us up. We'll be around.
- May 03 12:45:35 <luke_> cool
- May 03 12:45:36 <luke_> cheers
- May 03 12:45:39 <DeadSuperHero> :)
- May 03 12:45:42 <mathis__> daniel posted this a lot of time ago. https://joindiaspora.com/tags/workinovertime?q=%23workinovertime are you planning a redesign of the stream ?
- May 03 12:45:45 <maxwell> yeah, installing on windows might be an epic journey it its own right :P
- May 03 12:46:05 <maxwell> mathis__: lots of redesigns are going to happen. that particular one was halted
- May 03 12:46:17 <maxwell> but we are always trying to think about new designs
- May 03 12:46:26 <DeadSuperHero> Ways to do things better.
- May 03 12:46:40 <luke_> I could get it running on Linux first, once I understand the platform better I will have a go at Windows install
- May 03 12:46:41 <maxwell> but much of the designs going forward are going to be about cutting diaspora down to its essence
- May 03 12:46:59 <maxwell> making cool shit, sharing it where you want to, and owning it, and being proud of it
- May 03 12:47:09 <maxwell> luke_: sounds great
- May 03 12:47:22 <DeadSuperHero> pubis, did you have a question?
- May 03 12:48:02 <pubis> yeah! you mentioned a NEW_HOTNESS flag… care to explain more… I wan't the new profile on my pod like right now (:
- May 03 12:48:33 <maxwell> :)
- May 03 12:48:42 <maxwell> so you just need to start your server
- May 03 12:48:52 <maxwell> NEW_HOTNESS=yesplze rails s
- May 03 12:48:57 <maxwell> or however you start your server
- May 03 12:49:02 <maxwell> and then just make sure you have a beta role
- May 03 12:49:16 <maxwell> so in your production consoel
- May 03 12:49:25 <maxwell> Role.add_beta(pubis.person)
- May 03 12:49:43 <pubis> oh, that easy (: so it's just a env-variable passed on when starting the server
- May 03 12:49:57 <maxwell> yup
- May 03 12:50:03 <maxwell> you can look in
- May 03 12:50:05 <pubis> the role thing i worked out, but i don't wan't to add ex=true manually
- May 03 12:50:09 <maxwell> app/model/feature_flagger.rb
- May 03 12:50:26 <maxwell> that might shed some light to the magic™
- May 03 12:50:46 <pubis> awesome! thanks!
- May 03 12:50:52 <maxwell> thank you for asking
- May 03 12:50:57 <pubis> one more Q:
- May 03 12:50:59 <maxwell> yes
- May 03 12:51:59 <pubis> I have finally got the dev-env setup nicely and wan't to contribute something and was thinking of an auto URL-shortener… something like twitter and t.co
- May 03 12:51:59 <Topolivan> Hi everyone, I just joined now (sorry, German course), I'd have a question,if I'm allowed :-)
- May 03 12:52:15 <DeadSuperHero> Go for it, Topolivan
- May 03 12:52:24 <maxwell> pubis
- May 03 12:52:27 <maxwell> this is a good idea
- May 03 12:52:35 <maxwell> actually, it should be on the wishlsit
- May 03 12:52:45 <pubis> it could be hooked to a service like bit.ly or something like that,… thoughts?
- May 03 12:52:54 <maxwell> yeah
- May 03 12:52:59 <maxwell> i think bitty is a good fallback
- May 03 12:53:06 <maxwell> maybe people might want to pass it their own
- May 03 12:53:15 <maxwell> we should move the discussion the mailing list
- May 03 12:53:18 <maxwell> some of our thoughts about it
- May 03 12:53:24 <pubis> exactly… own your links!
- May 03 12:53:25 * maxwell fishes for an old link
- May 03 12:53:28 <maxwell> brb
- May 03 12:53:51 <maxwell> this is interesting
- May 03 12:53:52 <maxwell> http://tantek.pbworks.com/w/page/21743973/Whistle
- May 03 12:54:05 <maxwell> but tantek has lots of good thinking about maintaining attribution
- May 03 12:54:08 <maxwell> and owning your own links
- May 03 12:54:20 <maxwell> i don't think its essential to be word for word
- May 03 12:54:21 <Topolivan> Thanks! I was thinking of implementing a feature to allow the user to create 'stream shortcuts'. That is to say, the possibility to store different streams filtering by aspects and tags
- May 03 12:54:34 <DeadSuperHero> Interesting.
- May 03 12:54:42 <maxwell> Topolivan: i think much of that is going to change relatively soon
- May 03 12:54:49 <maxwell> i think filters will be a part of it
- May 03 12:55:02 <maxwell> but i can't guarantee we wouldn't blow away some of your changes
- May 03 12:55:20 <Topolivan> So, i dont know if i should start working or join sime group...
- May 03 12:56:01 <maxwell> you should join the mailing list, but again, it might be a volatile part of the code to start hacking on
- May 03 12:56:11 <maxwell> pubis: so we should start a discussion
- May 03 12:56:13 <maxwell> on diaspora-dev
- May 03 12:56:19 <maxwell> so everyone can see our thinking
- May 03 12:56:26 <maxwell> sound good?
- May 03 12:56:27 <pubis> ok, whistle look really cool. I'll do some more research and we'll continue on the mailing list..
- May 03 12:56:27 <DeadSuperHero> Same goes to Toplovian. Start a thread, get a discussion going
- May 03 12:56:32 <Topolivan> I'm in the mail list actually :-)
- May 03 12:56:34 <pubis> sounds super
- May 03 12:56:34 <DeadSuperHero> :)
- May 03 12:56:38 <maxwell> yay
- May 03 12:56:39 <Topolivan> Cool
- May 03 12:56:47 <Topolivan> I'll do it later
- May 03 12:57:22 <Topolivan> Guys, I love your work, see you later then
- May 03 12:57:25 * offSchub is now known as DenSchub
- May 03 12:57:35 <DeadSuperHero> Thanks Topolivan <3
- May 03 12:57:36 <DeadSuperHero> See ya.
- May 03 12:57:41 <DeadSuperHero> Any other questions?
- May 03 12:57:43 <pubis> yeah i'm on the list too… just very very quiet
- May 03 12:57:47 <pubis> :D
- May 03 12:57:53 <maxwell> damn lurkers
- May 03 12:58:00 <maxwell> "there coming outta the walls man!""
- May 03 12:58:09 <maxwell> :D
- May 03 12:58:10 <luke_> lol
- May 03 12:58:11 <DenSchub> oh. hi. :D
- May 03 12:58:12 <Topolivan> Hahaha
- May 03 12:58:14 <pubis> hehe
- May 03 12:58:24 <maxwell> y'all a bunch of jerks
- May 03 12:58:27 <maxwell> hey short survey
- May 03 12:58:31 <maxwell> are these meetings helpful?
- May 03 12:58:36 <luke_> yep
- May 03 12:58:40 <xador> yep
- May 03 12:58:43 <Topolivan> Totally
- May 03 12:58:43 <maxwell> DeadSuperHero: and i always feel like we are talking to ourselfs
- May 03 12:58:43 <luke_> well for me today it was
- May 03 12:58:47 <maxwell> ok
- May 03 12:58:47 <maxwell> ok
- May 03 12:58:52 <DeadSuperHero> maxwell, yeah I know that feel, bro.
- May 03 12:58:52 <maxwell> i appreciate chatting
- May 03 12:59:06 <pubis> yep
- May 03 12:59:10 <maxwell> we want to be available to like to do AMA here
- May 03 12:59:12 <Topolivan> There must be this 'little pills' to keep the momentum
- May 03 12:59:18 <pubis> man my client is lagging behind… annoying
- May 03 12:59:21 <luke_> @DSH I think it like a meeting in the office, it good to get an overall update
- May 03 12:59:26 <maxwell> because sometimes its disrubtive during the week
- May 03 12:59:27 <SlackerD> indeed
- May 03 12:59:27 <DeadSuperHero> Yeah, definitely.
- May 03 12:59:30 <maxwell> since we are scrumming
- May 03 12:59:36 <maxwell> distruptive
- May 03 12:59:38 <maxwell> whatever
- May 03 12:59:41 <maxwell> spelling is lame
- May 03 13:00:01 <DeadSuperHero> But yeah, it's good to have the logs around at least.
- May 03 13:00:04 <DeadSuperHero> Keep everyone in the loop.
- May 03 13:00:09 <Topolivan> Btw, i feel like 15 year old using the IRC. Love it
- May 03 13:00:13 <DeadSuperHero> <33333
- May 03 13:00:15 <Topolivan> :-)
- May 03 13:00:19 <DeadSuperHero> Good memories.
- May 03 13:00:24 <maxwell> HACKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE
- May 03 13:00:25 <Topolivan> Totally
- May 03 13:00:29 <DeadSuperHero> Okay, so I think that about wraps us up for this week?
- May 03 13:00:29 <luke_> lol
- May 03 13:00:30 <Topolivan> Hahaha
- May 03 13:00:47 <Topolivan> For me yes
- May 03 13:00:54 <mathis__> can you tell us approximately when we'll see these new (amazing) stuff ?
- May 03 13:01:11 <maxwell> as soon as i can physically write it
- May 03 13:01:14 <DeadSuperHero> Putting a date on it wouldn't exactly be realistic, I think. It'll be ready when it's ready.
- May 03 13:01:37 <maxwell> yeah i mean its important to note
- May 03 13:01:44 * Topolivan is now known as RaulCano
- May 03 13:01:59 <maxwell> this is all about getting learnings
- May 03 13:02:09 <maxwell> so things can and will change quickly
- May 03 13:02:20 <maxwell> its about doing stuff, getting validated (or shot down)
- May 03 13:02:26 <maxwell> and making it better or moving on
- May 03 13:02:35 <maxwell> its an organic process, not a overly planned one
- May 03 13:02:43 <DeadSuperHero> SCIENCE!
- May 03 13:02:43 <luke_> are you guys doing anything like A/B testing?
- May 03 13:02:44 <RaulCano> Are u using any PM app, like redmine or so?
- May 03 13:02:55 <luke_> or hotspot analysis?
- May 03 13:02:58 <maxwell> we use Pivotal Tracker for the core team work
- May 03 13:03:04 <maxwell> luke_: we actually need to do more of that
- May 03 13:03:09 <maxwell> do you have a lib you have some experience with
- May 03 13:03:14 <luke_> no
- May 03 13:03:28 <maxwell> i would actually be interested in contributions around user metrics, in the name of sciecne
- May 03 13:03:46 <maxwell> we are actually a/b testing our group of firends
- May 03 13:03:53 <maxwell> with the new profile/publisher/single post view
- May 03 13:04:00 <luke_> I seen a lot of stuff on the smashing network about it, but some of the articles from a dev standpoint are a bit wholly
- May 03 13:04:00 <maxwell> we are actually re-inviting all of our friends to test it out
- May 03 13:04:03 <maxwell> just those 3 things
- May 03 13:04:21 <maxwell> kinda hiding all of the old-diaspora stuff from there
- May 03 13:04:22 <maxwell> them
- May 03 13:04:27 <luke_> If I am understanding it correctly
- May 03 13:04:54 <luke_> it maybe worth having a pod that some people are randomly directed to or can choose to do testing?
- May 03 13:05:35 <maxwell> we actually talked about that
- May 03 13:05:47 <luke_> I must have missed it
- May 03 13:05:49 <luke_> sorry
- May 03 13:05:51 <maxwell> the current way beta is being sliced, some old core diaspora features are just not present
- May 03 13:05:58 <maxwell> no we talked about it interanlly
- May 03 13:06:00 <maxwell> :)
- May 03 13:06:02 <maxwell> internally
- May 03 13:06:31 <maxwell> since everything is changing rapidly, and we get inbound complaints when we move stuff around
- May 03 13:06:40 <maxwell> even though people are alpha users :/
- May 03 13:07:04 <luke_> I see, i.e. the "friction" DSH was talking about
- May 03 13:07:31 <luke_> I dunno how you guys work
- May 03 13:07:52 <luke_> but I normally deploy changes in "changesets" at work (I use SourceSafe and I am still recovering)
- May 03 13:08:32 <maxwell> are those to only a group of users/
- May 03 13:08:32 <luke_> do you guys do anything similar? is there a wiki page I can look at?
- May 03 13:08:40 <maxwell> we use heroku
- May 03 13:08:47 <maxwell> and just deploy from our master branch
- May 03 13:08:55 <maxwell> and have been using feature flags as of late
- May 03 13:09:24 <luke_> okay
- May 03 13:09:46 <luke_> sorry I come from a very corporate background
- May 03 13:09:50 <maxwell> no problem
- May 03 13:10:07 <maxwell> we come from an asshat, doing crazy stuff for fun background :P
- May 03 13:10:18 <RaulCano> Haha
- May 03 13:10:20 <luke_> :D
- May 03 13:10:27 <maxwell> :D
- May 03 13:10:34 <RaulCano> That's the best
- May 03 13:10:50 <maxwell> actually, this is the best
- May 03 13:10:50 <maxwell> https://github.com/mroth/lolcommits
- May 03 13:10:59 <DeadSuperHero> Yes.
- May 03 13:11:06 <DeadSuperHero> Some of the best pictures evar.
- May 03 13:11:16 * pubis is restarting pod. new hotness? well yes pleaze
- May 03 13:11:46 <RaulCano> How often are these IRC meetings,guys?
- May 03 13:11:52 <maxwell> every other thursday
- May 03 13:12:03 <luke_> what time GMT?
- May 03 13:12:07 <maxwell> uhhh
- May 03 13:12:11 <maxwell> umm
- May 03 13:12:12 <DeadSuperHero> Well, it's 10 PST
- May 03 13:12:13 <luke_> well whichever
- May 03 13:12:19 <DeadSuperHero> 12 Central time
- May 03 13:12:21 <luke_> okay
- May 03 13:12:23 <maxwell> west coast america time
- May 03 13:12:30 <luke_> I will work it out from PST time
- May 03 13:12:39 <maxwell> where are you located?
- May 03 13:12:43 <luke_> I am on GMT+1
- May 03 13:12:46 <luke_> Gibraltar
- May 03 13:13:02 <RaulCano> Hi you!
- May 03 13:13:15 <RaulCano> I'm from Marbella :-)
- May 03 13:13:22 <luke_> :D
- May 03 13:13:34 <luke_> I live near La Linea
- May 03 13:13:39 <pubis> 1900 in GMT+1
- May 03 13:13:46 <RaulCano> Same time zone :-p
- May 03 13:13:52 <xador> valencia here
- May 03 13:14:01 <luke_> it is DST here, so 8pm
- May 03 13:14:22 <pubis> I'm GMT+1 too… but a couple hundred miles north i guess
- May 03 13:14:23 <RaulCano> :-)
- May 03 13:14:33 <luke_> longitude got to love it
- May 03 13:14:47 <DeadSuperHero> Anyway, I gotta run guys. I'll put the logs up in like 20 minutes. :P
- May 03 13:14:56 <luke_> cheers DSH
- May 03 13:14:58 <DeadSuperHero> <333
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