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Convo with Chex: Joe Rogan, Bill Maher, propaganda

JaysonSunshine
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  2. Chex
  3. Joey: http://youtu.be/-KQGZa773sI
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  5. Chex
  6. Joey: listening to Bill on Joe Rogan right now, its pretty good, even tho I think Rogan is a meathead
  7. infspire
  8. I have Joe Rogan on block until Jan 29.
  9. infspire
  10. He recurringly spreads right-wing propaganda.
  11. Chex
  12. infspire: I generally dont like him, or listen, but if he has someone specific whom I like, I will listen to him, Elon for one, and now Bill
  13. Chex
  14. infspire: and Bill spreads left-wing propoganda, so this would be a good conversation, right?
  15. 13:21 infspire
  16. I like some of his content, but generally his bad parts build and then I block him for awhile.
  17. infspire
  18. Which Bill?
  19. Chex
  20. Bill Maher
  21. infspire
  22. I wouldn't say Bill Maher spreads "left-wing" propaganda, no.
  23. Chex
  24. I would.
  25. infspire
  26. What is it?
  27. Chex
  28. infspire: him griping about 'kids these days'
  29. infspire
  30. (I dislike that we skipped over Joe Rogan's propaganda so quickly.)
  31. Chex
  32. infspire: how milleniels are a coddled generation, etc
  33. infspire
  34. What Joe Rogan's guests do is immaterial to what Joe Rogan does. Joe Rogan frequently carries water for the alt-right and right-wing propagandists, which is very evil in this time period.
  35. infspire
  36. He mostly does it because he's too stupid to not be propagandized, rather than super consciously.
  37. infspire
  38. I will engage Bill Maher, but I will need a pause between the two topics.
  39. Chex
  40. infspire: thanks for letting us know how much you like Rogan and Maher
  41. infspire
  42. Chex: That is a profound fallacy.
  43. infspire
  44. Why did you say it?
  45. infspire
  46. I agree that it could be said that some of those topics Bill Maher discusses are propaganda topics.
  47. infspire
  48. Jonathan Haidt does have substantial scientific research that the generation of kids born after 1990 are statistically quite different than kids that came before.
  49. infspire
  50. Further, Jonathan Haidt has done research that shows that access to social media at a young age -- i.e. kids born after 2000 -- seems to have significantly modified how they socially perform.
  51. infspire
  52. But, generally, all propaganda topics also contain important nuggets of truth.
  53. infspire
  54. Here's an interesting question, though: Is the topic that millennials are coddled a left-wing propaganda topic?
  55. infspire
  56. It would seem more clearly a right-wing topic, yes, that attempts to impugn a rival faction by saying its roots/children have distorted minds.
  57. infspire
  58. Which raises the question of "What are left-wing propaganda topics?"
  59. infspire
  60. I'd have to think about that more, but I'd say that vaccine denialism is a left-wing propaganda topic.
  61. infspire
  62. Which Bill Maher has spread.
  63. infspire
  64. Now, returning your parting comment.
  65. 13:34 infspire
  66. It was in very bad faith and was extremely dishonest.
  67. infspire
  68. Since you didn't take any accountability for it, I put you on ignore for one month.
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