Hatman: why did you add me
TreesnGames: Well it was because I like your character and wanted to tell you but now I regret that decision because it seems you're a complete cock
Hatman: you are laggy as fuck
TreesnGames: Is that why you were double parried? Then I walk away, and you don't even gesture?
TreesnGames: You're salty you fat shit
TreesnGames: Go fix YOUR internet, mine's fine
Hatman: prove it
Hatman: do a ping test
Hatman: are you on wifi
TreesnGames: negative, and who would you like me to ping?
TreesnGames: It doesn't achieve anything when it's P2P duelling, you numbnuts
Hatman: you do not seem to understand
Hatman: if you ping somwhere like google it will give a more or less accurate representation of your connection speed
TreesnGames: lmao
TreesnGames: oh my god
TreesnGames: You're a retard
Hatman: this games routing can be fucked so it can help determine that as well
TreesnGames: I'm 27, and graduated edith cowan university in 2009
TreesnGames: I'll give you one guess about my degree and subsequent career
Hatman: i dont care about that
TreesnGames: ... network admin, to relay the relation to this conversation
Hatman: i understand this games netcode very well and a ping test will diagnose whether you had lag spikes or not
TreesnGames: So, let me teach you something homie
TreesnGames: The game's (any game's) routing CAN be fucked, you're right
TreesnGames: but pinging google achieves *nothing*
TreesnGames: It'll tell me how fast I can ping Google. Google, not steam, not From, not you, but google
Hatman: pinging google achieves a personal connection check as google is a constant for most people
TreesnGames: It's NOT an indication of connection speed
Hatman: it is a indication of connection consistency
Hatman: if my ping to google is fucked i will be laggy to anyone
Hatman: if both players pings to google is fine
Hatman: then its likely routing
TreesnGames: Yuh, but what I'm saying is, even if I proved it to you, it doesn't mean ANYTHING - ie. if we both had amazing ping to Google, it doesn't mean we'll have amazingly respondant duels
Hatman: do you have extra chromosomes?
TreesnGames: There's, at a minimum, me->my isp->from/steam server -> your isp -> you
Hatman: if both players pings to google is fine
Hatman: then its likely routing
TreesnGames: Man, I'm laughing so hard right now
TreesnGames: you're an absolute fucking tool who thinks he knows something about networking
TreesnGames: yet you're insistant that pinging google is an indication of how well we'd suit up in a duel in Dark Souls 2
Hatman: you say you have a college degree but you cant listen to what im even saying
Hatman: if both players pings to google is fine, then connection problems are likely routing
TreesnGames: If college is the US equivalent of university, yes, i do
TreesnGames: and so should you by the time you're my age
Hatman: lmao
TreesnGames: but it certainly wouldn't be anything to do with networks ;)
Hatman: if you are so knowledgeable then teach me how to quickroll
TreesnGames: While you're insistant on using Google - why don't you look up the definition of P2P
TreesnGames: and then come back and tell me what pinging google achieves
Hatman: pinging google checks your personal connection consistency
Hatman: if you ping to google is bad then your ping to elsewhere is likely to be bad as well
TreesnGames: facepalming bro. this is absolutely ridiculous, I'm writing back almost out of pity
TreesnGames: Why would I ping Google when I can just ping the actual From/DS2 server?
TreesnGames: Wouldn't that be a better test of consistency? Cut out the middle man?
TreesnGames: You're not using your head
TreesnGames: Tip: open cmd (WIN+R) and type netstat
TreesnGames: hit enter
Hatman: pinging google is better as its more or less a consistent for everyone
Hatman: some people have a better or worse connection to the ds2 servers
Hatman: its not a consistent test
TreesnGames: Except it's a fucking search engine/website and not a game server
Hatman: google is better
TreesnGames: oh man
TreesnGames: I can'
TreesnGames: I just can't
TreesnGames: I can deal with people not sorta, knowing the ins and outs
Hatman: it could be pornhub for all it matters. its just a personal test to check network consistency
TreesnGames: but I can't deal with people who are ignorant to actual knowledge
Hatman: ask any compitant player in ds2, they all check pings
TreesnGames: see you keep saying "network consistency", and I'm absolutely confident at this point you don't even know what that means
TreesnGames: Nobody here is arguing the value of checking your ping - I'm saying it's fucking stupid to ping http://google.com and be like "12ms IT MUST BE YOUR CONNECTION"
TreesnGames: There are so many fucking factors - let alone the main one: google is in no way connected to ds2/steam/From/or YOU (P2P)
Hatman: these are china hours so it is likely the connection of any of my opponents
TreesnGames: China?
TreesnGames: I live in Australia (though I know what you mean, and it's fine)
Hatman: this is when the chinese players play
Hatman: and if your an aussie then thats almost as bad
Hatman: your connections are notoriously bad in ds2
Hatman: no fault of your own, but your connection will suck
TreesnGames: Yet you're the first one in hundreds and hundreds of hours to say so
Hatman: you added me
Hatman: not the other way around
TreesnGames: yeah to say your character is awesome!
TreesnGames: idioyt
TreesnGames: Also, on another little side note, if I parried you twice, how is that MY lag? Like, that's literally backwards
TreesnGames: if it was me I'd have been on the end of a spear to the face
Hatman: you are inconstently teleporting on my screen
Hatman: your parrying me means i was consistently moving properly on your screen
Hatman: hence why parrying timing was consistent
Hatman: one sided latency, favoring you
TreesnGames: So, let me get this straight - you're the one losing due to latency, and it's my fault?
TreesnGames: Your argument here is that I had a perfect connection and latency on my end
TreesnGames: yet it just chooses not to do so on yours?
Hatman: your are from aus, your uploads are notoriously bad
TreesnGames: Process of elimincation, most important factor in networking: my upload is fine, my download is fine, your upload is fine, yet your download can't register where I am
TreesnGames: lmao
Hatman: your from aus and claiming you arent laggy
TreesnGames: Granted, it's not exactly Google Fibre but where I am we get 1.9mb/s upload - now I don't know how ignorant y ou really are but that is NOT bad
Hatman: lmao
Hatman: 1.9
Hatman: die
TreesnGames: man
TreesnGames: you really are retarded
TreesnGames: 1.9mb/s UPLOAD (not download) isn't bad in any sense of the figure, and if you're going to argue it is then we may as well just stop now
Hatman: your arguing its good
Hatman: 1.9 is pathetic
TreesnGames: man
TreesnGames: I just can't
Hatman: im not saying your net cannot handle ds2
TreesnGames: but I will tell you one thing
Hatman: but your location is the reason for your lag
TreesnGames: I'll tell you one thing
Hatman: and if i had matched with any opponent from eu or na the connection wouldve been playable
Hatman: i have a few friends in aus who had a much better connection to you
TreesnGames: You're the single most ignorant person I've met on this game, and you honestly look borderline stupid in some of the things you're saying
Hatman: then*
TreesnGames: Also you do realize you won that duel, right?
Hatman: okay then if im ignorant, teach me to quickroll
Hatman: idc if i won
Hatman: the duel was painful and boring
Hatman: i have approaching 3k hours in this game across all alts and platforms winning doesnt matter to me
TreesnGames: homie I don't even know what a quickroll is, if it's a dark souls 2 term then I've never heard it? I'm stating out of honesty, but I know you're just going to tease me in some way or another
Hatman: do you want to know how to quickroll?
TreesnGames: Is it going to benefit me in any way?
Hatman: in pvp yes
TreesnGames: p.s. ignorant doesn't mean you're dumb, it means you're resistant to actually learning when you say dumb things
Hatman: im no expert on networks, but its common knowledge that ping tests location and routing can be used to determine cause of latency
Hatman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9puMS4EAEU
Hatman: this is quickrollingh
TreesnGames: Well f me, I just watched a video on that quickroll thing and hats off to you - you're right I do do that!
Hatman: every little ds2 kiddie knows what it is
TreesnGames: Well I'm only jsut learning about it but yeah I notice that all the time
TreesnGames: i don't exactly try to do it but it's a habit I've picked up, I always thought it was just a bug didn't know it's an actual tactic
Hatman: either way, fighting you is painful af. go kill some kangaroos and use their bones to buy a better ethernet cord.
Hatman: or murder your politicians for me
TreesnGames: lmao sweet insult
Hatman: cuz ur all laggy fucks
TreesnGames: politicians you're right, they can go to hell
TreesnGames: but what a bloody zinger about kangaroo bones! oh man! that's so funny
Hatman: its a ds2 meme
TreesnGames: if your network admin career doesn't work out you should have a go at comedy
TreesnGames: because that... oh man that was just delightful
Hatman: people from canada have ethernet cords of syrup
TreesnGames: dank meme
TreesnGames: 2edgy5me
Hatman: either way
Hatman: fuck off
TreesnGames: not sure how you can see over your fedora
TreesnGames: m'Darksouls
Hatman: i hope you realize that the kangaroo bone thing is ironic
TreesnGames: soooo edgy
TreesnGames: you're a memelord
Hatman: everyone in ds2 is
TreesnGames: lmao
TreesnGames: yeah clearly everyone
TreesnGames: yep
Hatman: everyone who regularly plays*
Hatman: any twitch chat will show you that
TreesnGames: maybe you should concern yourself with a better education or maybe a life, instead of being the king of memes
Hatman: better education lol
TreesnGames: honestly mate get out of the house and get some exercise or do something else with your time for a while
TreesnGames: you take this waaay too seriously
Hatman: lmao what a roast
Hatman: i wasnt going to say anything but you added me
TreesnGames: Yeah to compliment your awesome looking character
Hatman: idc what you added me for
TreesnGames: but right off the bat it was obciously you're a socially awkward memer
Hatman: if ur laggy ill tell you
TreesnGames: oh you're rough
TreesnGames: i no longer want to fuck with you
TreesnGames: cause ytou'll do anything bro
TreesnGames: you're so edgy, if someone's laggy
TreesnGames: you don'tcare why they added you
TreesnGames: you'll tell 'em
Hatman: why wouldnt i tell them
TreesnGames: fuck, why aren't I kneeling in such greatness
Hatman: lag is one of the only things that still bothers me in this game
TreesnGames: $20 says you own a katana or there's cheeto crust around your desk
Hatman: lmao
Hatman: im no weeb
Hatman: and cheetos are nasty
TreesnGames: Mate, nothing should bother you about a game, that's the idea
TreesnGames: it's a game
Hatman: if im having a negative experience in the game due to someone living in aus then it will bother me
TreesnGames: You're bothered cause there may (or may not) have been lag - yet I come on to compliment your character build and you're so edgy you have to tell me
Hatman: because i play the game to have a positive experienc
TreesnGames: You realize there's literally a setting in game for that, right?
TreesnGames: You also realize you just whinged about being paired up with someone on another continent... ON THE INTERNET
Hatman: the game's setting is literally solely an on off switch for japan
TreesnGames: your networking knowledge really is off the chain memelord
Hatman: if the games setting would let me never fight you laggy fucks again i would use it
Hatman: but it will only let me avoid japan
Hatman: unlike ps4 the pc setting is only japan
TreesnGames: laughing so hard man, even passed on a couple screenshots to some work colleagues
TreesnGames: it's like we've finally found a neckbeard in the wild
TreesnGames: it's fucking awesome
Hatman: you are what we in the ds2 community call a peach
TreesnGames: and you are what we in life call a literal loser
Hatman: a garbage player who thinks they are knowleagable and dont seem to realize how the game actually works
TreesnGames: the *only* excuse for all this shit is if you're like 16 or something
TreesnGames: then it kinda makes sense and it's forgivable
TreesnGames: but if you're 20+ man, honestly, get the fuck outside
TreesnGames: games/this game is consuming your life
Hatman: tell me about it
Hatman: but i only put in a few hours a week so its not bad
TreesnGames: haha shit mate you're so unpredictable, that's a compliment - one minute you're a meme loving virgin and then the next you're completely honest with me
TreesnGames: and you tall ME about consistency ;)
Hatman: tall
Hatman: tell*
TreesnGames: and here comes the typo shaming
TreesnGames: you've reverted to memelord
Hatman: im never honest with randoms
Hatman: why would i be
TreesnGames: because you've got a persona to keep up, big tough guy ds2 veteran
Hatman: ur just some goof who will pick up and leave the game so it wont matter what impression you leave with
TreesnGames: when in reality, outside of this you're nothing and that sucks for you
TreesnGames: I have empathy but only for people who aren't complete unsocialable neckbeards like yourself
Hatman: i have work tomorrow we should wrap this up
TreesnGames: okay, hope the petrol station doesn't get too busy
TreesnGames: and don't burn yourself on the fryer at *insert fast food restaurant I can almost guarantee you work at* - you need your hands for memeing and the darksouls2 community
Hatman: i mean i cant attend university and work a full time job at the same time, and food smells good
TreesnGames: nono, see you go to university first
TreesnGames: adn then get a full time job you enjoy
TreesnGames: of course food smells better than your loser three-tim es-a-day realization that you work in fast food
Hatman: why tf would i go to school before i work when i can do both at the same time and have money lol
TreesnGames: ...and there it is
TreesnGames: that sentence, right there, is why you're not going to be successful in anything other than memelording
Hatman: ...and heres the chomosome king.... live from australia.... here with more epic roasts
TreesnGames: it's not a roast when it's the truth my man
TreesnGames: though chromosome king is pretty funny I'll give you that
TreesnGames: in fact I audibly chuckled
Hatman: yep yep yep you know me better than i do
Hatman: yep yep yep
Hatman: oh u liked that? alright heres another
Hatman: shortbus shaman
TreesnGames: I only know the internet you, which ironically is, probably, and sadly, the real you
Hatman: diaper demon
Hatman: anal afficianado
TreesnGames: nah context is one of the most important parts about a joke in my opinion - and 10 mins ago you referred to me having an extra chromosome
TreesnGames: so now the later reference made it funny af
Hatman: you are from australia, and claiming you arent laggy
Hatman: that is called having many extra chromosomes\
TreesnGames: Okay memelord, and if I played someone in Australia?
Hatman: pls do so i dont have to fight u
Hatman: australia isnt the rest of the world
Hatman: and to the rest of the world australia is laggy
TreesnGames: You're the first person to complain to me, at all, and it's because you got sweaty palms over a fucking duel in dark souls 2
TreesnGames: you're just too cool man
TreesnGames: within 5 minutes of having a conversation with you you literally brought up a meme
TreesnGames: like, I'm not even sure how you get any cooler
Hatman: tbh getting hatemail from people like you is more entertaining than ds2 duels
TreesnGames: ...but it wasn't hatemail, it was a compliment about your character
TreesnGames: and you launched into your cry
Hatman: would you like to be in a tourney?
TreesnGames: tell me again how that's hatemail?
Hatman: we are having a peach tourney
Hatman: where we get random garbo players and bet on who wins and loses
TreesnGames: Oh man that sounds like so much fun!
TreesnGames: Instead, though, I'm going to play dark souls for fun and go outside once in a while
Hatman: the participants have to be within .3 and .5 robins but im sure we can make an exception for someone at about .1 robins
TreesnGames: remember tomorrow when you're smelling that food and wondering why you have so many pimples, that life isn't about dark souls 2
Hatman: ill be smelling gormet italian food first of all
TreesnGames: aka domino's
Hatman: dominos is good
Hatman: but not dominos
Hatman: then ill be studying
TreesnGames: of course it is memelord, of course it is!
Hatman: then ill be reselling gpus
TreesnGames: just sucks when the pepperoni gets stuck in the hair on your neck
Hatman: then when im all bored and tires ill play ds2
TreesnGames: reselling GPU's
TreesnGames: your italian gourmet food store not making enough money :(?
Hatman: oh its making enough
Hatman: but why make enough when i can make more than enough
Hatman: and i like new toys to play with here and there
TreesnGames: Work to live my friend, not live to work
Hatman: or just make your hobby your work
TreesnGames: I work full-time don't get me wrong, but I have enough to pay off my mortgage, party, play games and go out with the Mrs
Hatman: like i have
TreesnGames: this is why I went to university
TreesnGames: I did make my hobby my work :)
TreesnGames: So gourmet italian food is your hobby?
TreesnGames: Way to live homie!
Hatman: for the meantime
Hatman: until i get bored of smelling good food
Hatman: but reselling gpus is rewarding
TreesnGames: I love how you're probably working behind the register or waiting tables, claiming the best part about your job is smelling the food
Hatman: i make the food
TreesnGames: I like how I'd go in and purchase, eat, enjoy the food accordingly
Hatman: i am one of the cooks lol
TreesnGames: Hahahhahaha no degree yet you claim it's gourmet
TreesnGames: I just... I can't any more
Hatman: i have a minor
TreesnGames: the zits will pass, you'll realize education is important, you'll get laid and then you'll have one of those moments
TreesnGames: one of those "fuck I spent 3000 hours on this game" moments
TreesnGames: and all I have to show for it is knowing my memes
Hatman: you keep saying these things thinking i will be insulted lol
Hatman: but its just cute
TreesnGames: nono I'm not hoping/assuming you'll be insulted
TreesnGames: I'm just stating the obvious that doesn't seem to be obvious to you
Hatman: 3k hours over 4 years isnt that much of a time commitment
Hatman: and there you go again, knowing more about me than i do ;)
TreesnGames: Here's the facts: guy adds you with intention of complimenting your build, you get instantly defensive because you're, you know, terribly akward - guy gets insulted, commends you for kangaroo bones, you claim it's obviously a dark souls 2 meme that I should already know
TreesnGames: Like, that's honestly the jist of this conversation
TreesnGames: oh wait wait
TreesnGames: you also claimed it was hatemail
Hatman: you are insulting me
Hatman: and it will become a trophy
Hatman: how is this not hatemail
TreesnGames: 2:19 PM - Hatman: you keep saying these things thinking i will be insulted lol
TreesnGames: thought you weren't insulted memelord :)
Hatman: oh im not
TreesnGames: Then how is it hatemail?
Hatman: but that doesnt mean its not hatemail if its not successful
TreesnGames: 1:26 PM - Hatman: why did you add me
1:27 PM - TreesnGames: Well it was because I like your character and wanted to tell you but now I regret that decision because it seems you're a complete cock
1:27 PM - Hatman: you are laggy as fuck
TreesnGames: kekekkekekekke
Hatman: i asked a simple question
Hatman: and then said you were laggy
TreesnGames: No no, you assumed you were going to receive hatemail, and you didn't, and then you were inclined to claim I'm laggy because that's all life is about to you bearded neck lord
TreesnGames: it's probably your weight/job/life/everything all at once, I undertsand
TreesnGames: but no one's going to fix it but you :)
Hatman: oh i assumed i would recieve hatemail, and then i recieved the hatemail
Hatman: i am still recieving the hatemail
Hatman: i will still be recieving the hatemail
TreesnGames: I don't hate ya man!
TreesnGames: I pity you xoxo
Hatman: im getting a 980ti this week i pity myself as well
TreesnGames: I just hope one day you realize that random guy on the internet wasn't the worst bloke in the world, he was right about my lifestyle
TreesnGames: I got my 1080 last week :)
Hatman: "mr hatman, you cannot go around telling people they are laggy!!!!!, it might hurt their feelings!!!!! :( "
TreesnGames: And! I claimed it on tax for my work
TreesnGames: It didn't hurt my feelings friend, because here's the key: you're on the internet
TreesnGames: I don't care about you, in the slightest
TreesnGames: You, however, think it's life and death when it comes to memeing
TreesnGames: cause you know, you're a winner
Hatman: ik thats why hatemail is always so good
Hatman: this will be an active pastebin for the foreseeable future
Hatman: also i'll be able to sell the 980ti for profit so ill take it over a 1080 any day
Hatman: hobbys that make income ;)
TreesnGames: or, I mean, you know, be the head of a small team of sysadmins, make a lot of money, and not have to resell/recycle the items I choose to purchase
Hatman: i enjoy reselling i would do it regardless of my base income
Hatman: and tbh ur job sounds boring
TreesnGames: I';m ltierally at work playing dark souls 2
Hatman: this steam chat mustve been the most entertaining thing all day
TreesnGames: I'd take boring over being a fat cook any. day. of. the. week.
Hatman: any. day. of. the. week.
Hatman: ShortBusShaman - Today at 12:29 AM
any. day. of. the. week.
Hatman: people are enjoying you
TreesnGames: Anyways, for the record, you and your neckbeards seriously need to educate yourself on P2P/networking, and if you take one thing away from this: pinging Google is a somewhat reliable indiciation of http traffic of tracerouting, NOT a valid test to check for lag in fucking Dark Souls 2
TreesnGames: if people are enjoying me, show them the whole convo - they'd LOVE you brother!
Hatman: in combination with location checks it is
TreesnGames: or tracerouting *
TreesnGames: (because you're so edgy you pick up on misleading typos)
Hatman: because it leaves routing as the dependant variable
TreesnGames: God, no, it, doesn't
TreesnGames: Okay, say Dark Souls 2 American servers were temporarily under heavy load
TreesnGames: tell me how pinging google leaves routing as the only remaining variable
Hatman: this game has only a few thousand players at any time
Hatman: thats not relevant
Hatman: the servers are never under heavy load
TreesnGames: Nope. Can't do this - you actually believe it or not seem like you could be a good bloke if you just put down the edge, yet then you go and say something just so fucking stupid it reminds me what I'm doing
TreesnGames: try to get outside memelord
TreesnGames: hit me up if you ever feel like being just a normal chill person
Hatman: im gonna have to end it here, i do have work tomorrow otherwise i would have you help me continue to create entertainment