avi8tor: could you hack check some mons for me
@Anubis: Uh
avi8tor: stuff from oras that i traded over which seems super sus
@Anubis: I'm on my way home so give me about 30 min.
avi8tor: aight sounds good
@Anubis: Want me to ask Wyrx for you?
@Anubis: Oh he went off.
avi8tor: oh rip
@Anubis: OK I'm back home.
avi8tor: cool so there are 5 pokemon that id like checked
@Anubis: ORAS was mad haccs so if fewer than 2 are hacked, I'll be surprised.
avi8tor: yeah
@Anubis: 1307-0014-8387, IGN N
avi8tor: 0018-2850-2707 ign sriram
@Anubis: I'm on.
@Anubis: Just show me everything for at least 1 second.
avi8tor: ok connecting
avi8tor: im on
@Anubis: I sent.
@Anubis: Just scroll over them.
@Anubis: Those 5, huh
@Anubis: ok
avi8tor: they were claimed to be rngd but i really dont trust it
avi8tor: the cresselia/deoxys/regirock at least
@Anubis: None of them can be traded without proof anyways so it'd just be for your personal use.
avi8tor: ah ok
avi8tor: id still like to know if thats ok
@Anubis: OK let me pull them up.
@Anubis: Jirachi and Deoxys are 100% hacked.
avi8tor: ok
@Anubis: Moonblast Jirachi needs to have a ribbon, and it doesn't have the ribbon. It also doesn't relearn moonblast.
avi8tor: alright
@Anubis: Deoxys is hacked. Spread isn't possible in gen 3.
avi8tor: the cresselia came from sn0w so i think its legit
@Anubis: It's legal but counts same as a 5 IV shiny so can't be traded without proof.
avi8tor: ah ok
avi8tor: wb the xerneas?
@Anubis: Xerneas is legal as well. 4 IV in right region. 4 IV from AS means it can actually be traded since it's locked to minimum 3 IV.
avi8tor: oh cool
avi8tor: do you want a copy in that case
@Anubis: Nah, I had to copy them to look at their data.
avi8tor: oh wow thats powerful lol
@Anubis: Regirock is legal but uh... given that gen 6 RNG wasn't possible until well after you were banned, I'd guess it's hacked.
avi8tor: lol p sure that was from a giveaway
@Anubis: Probably not even documented.
@Anubis: It just wasn't possible.
avi8tor: aight theres a lot more stuff but im just gonna assume they're hacked
@Anubis: I can check them all if you want.
avi8tor: ok ill get them in one palce
@Anubis: I'm online, send whenever.
avi8tor: sent
avi8tor: do you want me to go through again
@Anubis: Nah, was just waiting for you to say you were done.
avi8tor: ok
@Anubis: I'll look once done.
@Anubis: Your charmanders are legal.
@Anubis: As is your pinsir.
avi8tor: is tsv hatching legal?
@Anubis: Yep.
avi8tor: oh nice, so beldum should also be good
@Anubis: Mewtwo is legal and tradeable.
@Anubis: Lugia is legal but needs proof to be traded.
@Anubis: Beldum is legal.
@Anubis: Doesn't look like an egg trade though.
avi8tor: wdym by egg trade
@Anubis: Traded egg for TSV hatching.
avi8tor: oh i meant i looked at the esv for my eggs then picked out the matching ones to hatch
@Anubis: Ah I thought you meant you searched up the TSV list
Please do not discuss hacking Pokémon games.
avi8tor: yeah i asked bc i used pk hex to do so
@Anubis: The GAMESTP Jirachi is legal and tradeable since it's 0 IV. Weird region but people can transfer up on any system they want.
@Anubis: Even 2 30's is not that impressive.
avi8tor: hm ok
@Anubis: The OR Deoxys is 4 IV so tradeable.
@Anubis: The KOR Manaphy is legal and 5 IV, tradeable without proof as well since it's locked to 3. Region is correct on it as well.
avi8tor: which korean manaphy
@Anubis: Hm
@Anubis: Actually you showed me two.
@Anubis: They're the same mon but one has different IVs.
@Anubis: So the 5 IV is probably hacked.
avi8tor: oh its in a pokeball so yeah
@Anubis: They're both in cherish.
@Anubis: But you see, they have the same PID.
@Anubis: One is 5 IV and the other is 3 IV.
avi8tor: wait there are 3 manaphy
avi8tor: 2 of them appear the same
@Anubis: Hold on
@Anubis: I'll upload the ones that I'd say are hacked.
avi8tor: ok
@Anubis: All 3 manaphies are shady.
avi8tor: wait quick q
avi8tor: i have diancie/rayquaza/zoroark/xerneas/celebi/zygarde/jirachi/darkrai/yveltal/manaphy/mew/victini/shaymin to be picked up
avi8tor: in my oras
avi8tor: what kind of proof would i need
@Anubis: You only need proof if you are 6 IV on those.
@Anubis: If you're running pcalc on it, take screenshots with the plugin.
@Anubis: 6 IV right nature is incredibly rare through SR.
avi8tor: oh im just soft resetting bc thats all i know how to do
@Anubis: super unlikely you'll need it.
@Anubis: 6 IV with 1 nature is 1 in 819200
avi8tor: so 5iv is fine without proof?
@Anubis: If 3 IV are guaranteed.
@Anubis: In ORAS, you always get 3 IV on those..
@Anubis: 5 IV in gen 5 and before needs proof because 0 IV are guaranteed.
@Anubis: https://bumba.me/wifi/proof.html If you click on stuff under "Do I need proof," that's a bit easier to follow.
avi8tor: sry im assuming im gonna get a lot more scrutiny based off my track record
@Anubis: 6 IV -> guaranteed 3 IV -> nonshiny = no proof.
@Anubis: Sorry, 5 IV*
avi8tor: also, 6 iv legendaries were a lot easier to get bc of this tactic https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/soft-resetting-guide-pok%C3%A9mon-xy-and-oras.3523818/
@Anubis: I mean, it still takes a lot of time to get a 6 IV to show up.
avi8tor: yeah true
@Anubis: One in 32k is a 6 IV. One in 64k is 6 IV sync nature.
avi8tor: mhm
@Anubis: Egg shiny is 1 in 500.
@Anubis: You'd have to hatch 128 shiny eggs randomly to get 1 6 IV with the desired nature.
avi8tor: aight so basically 6iv=basically impossible without rng manipulation
@Anubis: Highly suspicious.
@Anubis: I don't think I've hatched close to 128 random shiny eggs.
avi8tor: how are the keldeos
@Anubis: Legal but need proof.
@Anubis: Gen 5 is easy to manipulate.
@Anubis: You go down the 5 IV -> no guaranteed IVs -> needs proof.
@Anubis: https://www.porybox.com/#/box/e0a21fb28ef8f72b2b3a306eff7b3523
@Anubis: Go down to the bottom.
@Anubis: Starting from Yasuo.
avi8tor: these are the hacked?
@Anubis: Yeah with one caveat.
@Anubis: The two bold Manaphies are the same mon (same PID and EC). I'm guessing the 5 IV is the hacked version of the 3 IV.
@Anubis: Same thing with the hoopa, they are the same mon with identical PID and EC. The 6 IV one is probably the hacked version of the 3 IV.
avi8tor: um
avi8tor: yeah that might've been me that chnaged the ivs
avi8tor: (didnt trade them though)
@Anubis: Mad haccs.
@Anubis: I'd say you could trade the 3 IV one without needing any proof, don't trade your haccs.
avi8tor: i changed ivs for battling purposes, so no ill intent
@Anubis: The rest, you just got to look up the proofing on them.
avi8tor: tysm
@Anubis: np, ask if you have questions on it.
avi8tor: oras was a wild time LOL
@Anubis: I remember Wyrx pulled up his and 50% were hacked.
avi8tor: aight well back to sring diancie :(
@Anubis: ;_;
avi8tor: when were the proof rules put into place?
@Anubis: Hm.
@Anubis: Actually about 1.5 years ago, the proof rules were way harsher than this.
@Anubis: You needed video proof on all your egg hatches and stuff.
avi8tor: oh yeah i remember that
avi8tor: people used to be way more serious about collecting events
@Anubis: They got dialed back a lot. Like the 6 IV rule for 3 IV legends is so rare that you're not likely to encounter it.
avi8tor: idk if you've heard of a user named ih8ih8sn0w, he had one of the largest collections
@Anubis: We got rid of the whole WC proof thing too.
@Anubis: WC doesn't prove anything.
avi8tor: yeah exactly
avi8tor: that irritated me so much, you can literally inject the wc
@Anubis: I collect events too but I keep video of the redeems.
@Anubis: Like I pay someone in Japan to go download it and take a video of themselves downloading it with my name on it.
avi8tor: yeah i used to do that
avi8tor: oh could you send me a copy of the beldum
avi8tor: i havent done a ga since i came back
@Anubis: You want a clone of it?
avi8tor: yeah
@Anubis: Yeah I'm on.
avi8tor: im on
@Anubis: I can send you a few if you want to give out more.
avi8tor: uhh
avi8tor: sure
@Anubis: How many do you want?
avi8tor: how many do you have?
@Anubis: I do up to 15 for people's own mons.
avi8tor: oh
avi8tor: this is 3rd right?
@Anubis: 4th
avi8tor: ok ill do 2 more then
@Anubis: I'm sending you a confirmation then.
@Anubis: It goes into the cloner logs.
avi8tor: ah ok
avi8tor: tysm
@Anubis: np
avi8tor: ill do a ga now if you're ok with it
@Anubis: /rfaq ga
@Anubis: has a form that you fill out with the info
@Anubis: Makes it easier than having to ask you everything.
avi8tor: aight
avi8tor: /lg avi8tor|Sriram|53169|0018 2850 2707 | Self-Obtained Shiny Beldum - Jolly - [[item: Beast Ball]] - Clear Body - 31/31/31/x/31/31 | 1
avi8tor: wait
avi8tor: its not holding a beast ball
@Anubis: Yeah.
avi8tor: idk why it put that
@Anubis: Click poke ball?
avi8tor: mb
avi8tor: /lg avi8tor|Sriram|53169|0018 2850 2707 | Self-Obtained Shiny Beldum - Jolly - [[item: Poke Ball]] - Clear Body - 31/31/31/x/31/31 | 1
avi8tor: this is a fancy algorithm
@Anubis: Sipanale wrote it.
@Anubis: Simplifies things.