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IcyMew Mar 27th, 2012 (edited) 153 Never
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  1. 14:04 - You are now in #staff
  2. 14:04 - Topic: Welcome to #staff. Use this channel to discuss any technical issues (forum, IRC help, bans) or for reporting hackers and abuse. || In order to ensure the privacy of other users, you may not idle in this channel. || Please state your issue clearly and descriptively. Logs and screenshots may be requested as proof. || Don't ask to ask, just ask
  3. 14:04 - Topic was set by M!~Mystic@mystic.drdteam.org in 21.03.2012 at 02:12:57
  4. 14:04 - #staff +JPnt 10
  5. 14:04 - 2/12/2011 9:39:27 PM
  6. 14:04 - http://www.skulltag.com (#Staff)
  7. 14:04 <M whispers>Welcome to #staff - #ststaff and #staff have merged! Please state all problems, whether with Skulltag or with IRC here! Please also don't ask "are you here?" - you'll get a much faster response if you get to the problem right away and we will help you faster! Thanks! Also, this is a no-idle channel. You will be removed after 15 minutes of no activity.
  8. 14:11 - Dynamo set mode: +v IcyMew
  9. 14:13 - Whois list of Tribeam
  10. 14:13 - Realname: Tribeam
  11. 14:13 - Hostmask: Tribeam!~Tribeam@herp.derp.net *
  12. 14:13 - Tribeam is on: @#staff @#skulltag #stmapping
  13. 14:13 - Server: spectre.skulltag.net (Skulltag IRC (Spectre))
  14. 14:13 - Tribeam is an IRC operator
  15. 14:13 - Tribeam is authed as Tribeam
  16. 14:13 - End of /WHOIS list.
  17. 14:13 - Whois list of TheToxicAvenger
  18. 14:13 - Realname: The Great Satan
  19. 14:13 - Hostmask: TheToxicAvenger!~TheToxicAv@Jolly.Pirate.Donuts *
  20. 14:13 - TheToxicAvenger is on: @#staff @#skulltag +#pro %#mechanixunion @#machineshop %#coop #sttesting %#fnf #dosbox #mlk #drz-oldgeezers @#afts @#priv
  21. 14:13 - Server: mancubus.skulltag.net (Skulltag IRC (Mancubus))
  22. 14:13 - TheToxicAvenger is authed as TheToxicAvenger
  23. 14:13 - Idle time: 8 sec
  24. 14:13 - Signon time: 3/27/2012 11:10:03 AM
  25. 14:13 - End of /WHOIS list.
  26. 14:16 <IcyMew>Okay.
  27. 14:16 <IcyMew>I have a problem that is extremely self apparent.
  28. 14:16 <IcyMew>In this respect I will let the links do the talking.
  29. 14:17 <IcyMew>And respond accordingly.
  30. 14:17 <IcyMew>http://www.skulltag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=31209
  31. 14:17 <IcyMew>http://www.skulltag.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=31224
  32. 14:21 - Whois list of ChanServ
  33. 14:21 - Realname: Channel Registration Services
  34. 14:21 - Hostmask: ChanServ!ChanServ@hell.skulltag.net *
  35. 14:21 - Server: hell.skulltag.net (Services)
  36. 14:21 - ChanServ is an IRC operator
  37. 14:21 - is an Skulltag Service (ChanServ)
  38. 14:21 - End of /WHOIS list.
  39. 14:22 <Konar6>all I can say is... welcome to the "competitive" community. Ignore the dick measuring posts and play whatever the hell you want
  40. 14:23 <Konar6>or should I say elitist
  41. 14:23 <IcyMew>That's the exact reason I'm here is this attitude. I would like to discuss and challenge your reasoning behind taking the "Turn a blind eye to abuse" route.
  42. 14:24 <IcyMew>Or rather.
  43. 14:24 <IcyMew>The entirety of the staff of Skulltag.
  44. 14:24 <IcyMew>In a logical discussion.
  45. 14:26 <IcyMew>Quite. I would like to refer to the pastebin between myself and Dynamo, it presents the sentiments I would like to further convey.
  46. 14:26 <Konar6>I for myself know that this elitist attitude that's going around Skulltag is a problem
  47. 14:26 <IcyMew>http://pastebin.com/uGrG3iDg
  48. 14:26 <IcyMew>What do you intend to do about this problem?
  49. 14:27 <Konar6>the feasible solution would be if that part of the community moved to that other port that's being made by them, for them
  50. 14:27 <IcyMew>This is happening on Skulltag Forums and Skulltag IRC.
  51. 14:27 <IcyMew>And is clearly breaking rules.
  52. 14:27 <IcyMew>To a great degree.
  53. 14:28 <IcyMew>Unlike most people I will not get up on high horse and proclaim that I more competent about competition due to my involvement.
  54. 14:28 <IcyMew>I however will appeal to what is right and what is wrong.
  55. 14:29 <IcyMew>It is wrong to tell someone to deal with it when the things you are telling them to deal with is abuse. Abuse that is not only unwarranted but undealt with.
  56. 14:29 - TheToxicAvenger quit ("I gotta take a piss. When I come back, I'mma talk about the Mighty Duck movies.")
  57. 14:31 <IcyMew>Not only that but abuse that occurs within your jurisdiction.
  58. 14:31 <Konar6>I can't speak about the forum because I don't moderate it, but as for IRC, where is this supposed abuse happening?
  59. 14:31 <Konar6>we can't moderate privately owned channels
  60. 14:31 <IcyMew>It happened in #Grandvoid.
  61. 14:32 <IcyMew>How was he warranted in threatening me with his channel powers over something like that?
  62. 14:32 <Konar6>well, #grandvoid isn't related to staff
  63. 14:32 <IcyMew>It is a channel within which you hold powers.
  64. 14:32 <IcyMew>Powers greater than Iced.
  65. 14:33 <IcyMew>I am curious how you would let someone with that much arrogance and with an attitude that poor have such flags.
  66. 14:33 <IcyMew>Allow me to place a perspective upon the situation.
  67. 14:34 <IcyMew>I come to him with a genuine question to which I am assaulted personally.
  68. 14:34 <IcyMew>I continue to challenge his logic.
  69. 14:34 <Konar6>generally when you feel being abused on a channel, you can talk to the ops or just part the channel if they don't care to help
  70. 14:34 <IcyMew>And I am silenced with "warnings" and threats of further action?
  71. 14:34 <IcyMew>I am talking to you.
  72. 14:34 <IcyMew>Right now.
  73. 14:34 <Konar6>the drama yesterday on #grandvoid I couldn't deal with simply because I was away
  74. 14:35 <IcyMew>You need someone who can, clearly.
  75. 14:35 <IcyMew>There's no place for that.
  76. 14:35 <IcyMew>I made my apologies to parties involved who deserved it.
  77. 14:35 <IcyMew>And tidied things up.
  78. 14:35 <IcyMew>As is my custom.
  79. 14:35 <IcyMew>However when your staff members in a channel.
  80. 14:35 <IcyMew>Make gender based accusations and generally harass me.
  81. 14:35 <IcyMew>That's a problem.
  82. 14:36 <IcyMew>By being an operator you assume responsibility within that channel. I take it you are also the owner?
  83. 14:36 <IcyMew>Since you own the servers.
  84. 14:36 <IcyMew>If I recall.
  85. 14:36 <IcyMew>Quite.
  86. 14:37 <IcyMew>However to touch on the previous topic I was not using jurisdiction to mean yourself personally regarding the forums as I am aware of your usergroup and inherent powers.
  87. 14:38 <IcyMew>I was meaning Dynamo specifically and how he has been instructed to do nothing in the face of clear abuse.
  88. 14:38 <IcyMew>I am challening that quite directly.
  89. 14:38 <IcyMew>Challenging*
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