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- Day 289.3 Toliver silverscript By the Fire With Thomas Toliver Aug 6 2017
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u-r4w-x-8I
- Speaking with 84 year man from Charleston, West Virginia that works with youth who have imprisoned parents, using gardening as a therapeutic means to overcome delinquency.
- Transcript
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- then it'll go live George I want to tell
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- you first thing to do is become a
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- Christian
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- Maxon Christ to come into light now we
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- got that behind us now as a reporter
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- this can be hard for you to do because
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- negative is themself but don't scuba
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- dive in the cesspool of negativism seek
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- out the good there's so much good in
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- this country why we want to pick out the
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- negative because it sells it sounds good
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- and we gravitate to it
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- but this is the greatest country in the
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- world I can authenticate that I am a
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- retard good job good family seven kids
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- 25 print they all working hey 25 25 and
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- twenty or twenty and twenty I'm with
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- girls
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- oh my that's what I told my wife within
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- 20 girls if she catch me with a woman
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- that's a big lie and this is one of your
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- grandkids over here that's Phyllis right
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- they call the doc I met to get my wife's
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- hair shrunk so I get back in this door
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- because of George's reporter the reason
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- that y'all can tell I got 20 grandkids
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- and I learned something even when women
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- are wrongly right I felt one wrong now
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- you got no teeth so let me just
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- introduce Thomas here really quickly
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- okay
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- Thomas Tolliver lives in West Virginia
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- Charleston West Virginia close to where
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- I've done some reporting New York
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- Clarksburg the FBI ball but no you do oh
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- very good I'll be asking for favors
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- later on but the reason the reason why I
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- just gravitated toward Thomas here by
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- the fire in Columbus Ohio is Thomas
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- works with mentors kids that are that
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- have that their parents are in prison so
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- why don't you just tell me the program
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- and we're not trying to promote anything
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- here but I just thought it was such a
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- good story so just tell your story
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- Thomas okay but 30-some years I've been
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- going into prison and I don't like to
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- call myself preaching to him I'd like to
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- treat him like man
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- own kids that mentor them and tracked
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- him to rethink their thinking so that
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- will come back to prison but anyway in
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- the progression of time I began to see
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- these people had children and that
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- bothered me you know you're in prison
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- and you got children so with my wife's
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- encouragement I started or Spillers over
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- there she just as fellows who you might
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- say anyway we found out that with these
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- Pete prisoners they had children so we
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- started an organization called family
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- youth and development service men and
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- children of prisons go in and don't be
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- critical
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- just don't be criticized we don't really
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- have a right to criticize we're also
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- gonna have right to try correct no one
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- unless you get a relationship and you've
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- often heard it say people want to see
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- your heart full to hear your mind got
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- that it was a gorge just all you people
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- I'm listening 100 percent so but what I
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- want to tell you is that you'd have to
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- come from all
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- [Music]
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- that's me and Trump to Learjet don't see
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- okay Wow their jets come just gone over
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- but anyway you would have to come to my
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- office grapefruit and I got they're not
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- my money by running my night I enjoy Ben
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- ignant because I meet good people like
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- you to try to encourage me and I'm not
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- been asked for more money I don't like
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- I'm telling you the truth I don't I
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- don't need money clothes money misuse
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- for up Chile yes but anyway I've had the
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- great opportunity I'll pull out my
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- picture I'm gonna show you how to do
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- this where I was in teen yet I was like
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- to Berlin mall right after came down now
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- do I have pictures it before I've been
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- in Kenyon Lyle Ferguson and in I was at
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- the Berlin Wall right okay I have those
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- pictures I have Canada and the way I got
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- there really people like then take you
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- over there and actually I was on its way
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- back to effort so this Africans are so
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- respectful to hold people and they found
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- out they want me to come back do not
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- concern right now okay so the problem
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- with America people with good sense and
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- intelligent like that white people like
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- you have been elected and unelected is
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- cost to be disconnected so they're not
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- connected especially our kids they're
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- not connected to something constructive
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- and you know we've explored with our
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- kids about playing put
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- we need to let move majority kids there
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- are more things than sports and so I
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- want to go back to that statement I told
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- you the countries that ii see that 35
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- members of my family anything let's go
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- back to talking about these well you
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- told me a story before we started about
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- mr. hex
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- i think is this named network the young
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- man no Pitts Pitts Pitts Pitts is going
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- to West Virginia University yeah don't
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- look out for a young man that I'm
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- entered from baby to adulthood he you
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- would call it prob people thought sure I
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- just love kids like what they can sense
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- that and they give me a degree of
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- respect other people think I think you
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- back that's their nature then I took up
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- a lot of time with in Rogers your
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- property and then it was for the kids
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- that homeless do not really home do for
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- the mother and dad in federal the reef
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- turned out to be one of the finest kids
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- you want to meet that encouraged me now
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- to continue but he'll be playing for EE
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- you look out for dreams just a final kid
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- mountable respectable don't have the big
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- head and I'm just and I credit that to
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- normal man but
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- some poor people poor people my there
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- was a well-known lawyer named attempted
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- Bureau it was a community involvement
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- that was part of it I don't want to take
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- all the credit
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- yeah I love this story because it
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- reminded me of my basketball teammates
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- right and I don't know if people know
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- this about me but my basketball team was
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- eleven black guys and me right oh and
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- two two of them were shot and killed and
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- then two others have died now so on my
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- team on my starting team all of them are
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- dead I think maybe I think maybe ones
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- alive and I haven't really followed up
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- with them but it just shows you I mean
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- where we were on one side of the town
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- and they were on the other it's it's
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- still not that far away in taking care
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- of the crime problem every guy guarding
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- gotta be participants yeah
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- the police can only do so much right
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- it's fighting by people with good common
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- sense you're gonna have to start from
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- the cradle to the grave to deal with you
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- just think these kids that committing
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- crimes they have nobody like him they
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- could easily go upgrade because they had
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- no stability it's up to people of good
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- sense good good American sense that no
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- nation is too free to turn it over to
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- thugs yeah I'm not seeing from so thug I
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- wouldn't dare say but he's got you know
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- everybody's got some self-worth we need
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- to find that and try to build it from
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- there we got to instill this into these
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- kids
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- maybe we should keep them away from
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- negative television
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- we got it I have to give it a lot of
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- that fridge to my wife else that was
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- crazy as my kids but now she might your
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- your wife reminds you so much of my
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- mother
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- oh so much of my mom you just sit there
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- and go it's all going okay but as soon
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- as it one no one right it's smack I'm
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- from Cleveland Ohio to be from well you
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- know the first prize is one week in
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- Cleveland second prizes
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- whereas wait second prize is one week
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- including the first prize is to is you
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- know you can be so dumb you can't pass
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- and I enjoy that I think how dumb it is
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- I spent 25 years in college trying to
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- crowd in for so when doing the
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- graduation when I got ready to graduate
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- they were saying that dr. Marvin Johnson
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- cum laude made it
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- magna cum Marty Tom Tolliver thank you
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- lord
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- we're getting the good stuff yet the
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- good stuff yeah but I was going to tell
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- you this I just can't help thinking
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- about even when I came along I wasn't a
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- Christian but this country I don't care
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- what he was found basically all
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- Christian principles they were yes you
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- know you don't have to be all this great
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- if you live with the basic principles
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- that's what we have banding on let's
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- stay with them and so you know and you
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- struck me as just and we'll wrap it here
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- it's just a very deep man of faith right
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- but the thing about it I don't use it
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- but I want this country to survive so
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- bad that I'm will go back in the
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- military
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- whatever it takes because I'm telling
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- you I've been called back I told you
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- I've been in Kenya like those Nigeria a
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- little Norway Toronto Canada I've been
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- always sometimes that you want to
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- reenter view me man me tell you how
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- rescues and the Polly's from being
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- deported we'll talk at next time you
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- come to you come to West Virginia I'll
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- come to us right yeah yeah we are
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- hopefully as a free man no I'm single
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- I'm yeah well don't you like my wife
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- they asked it she'll be some nice man
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- that there they said ask my wife are you
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- married and all but my husband is we
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- started something you did let me taste
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- let me tell you something else
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- fifty years ago and I have a way of
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- turning negative into a joke beat the
- 12:00
- women way from she got married again she
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- was walking down the street and you know
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- way I introduced them I know the man I
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- said I'd like the auto meet my husband
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- alone boy they got man I have weird turn
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- in life around that I'm not gonna let
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- circumstances Rob
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- there's too much good stuff you you
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- Thomas
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- you've touched my heart you know I love
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- meeting people of make that act in faith
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- and you are a wonderful person you are
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- married to an incredible it was some hey
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- hey hey what's the name I mean we'll
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- have to get the doctor to get her
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- so reporting live here in Columbus Ohio
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- just a little bit of the flavor of the
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- evening that was been so good and we're
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- also here at a at a baby shower and some
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- wonderful gals here we're talking with
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- and it's been great
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- so we'll tune out here tonight I would
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- like to tell y'all something sure I
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- would like to say this man that we
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- interviewing he used to be a black man
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- they scared him now he's pale I think
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- that FBI can do that to you anyway
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- thanks everybody for all your support
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- and it's it's been really wonderful just
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- talk with people one on one and well
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- I'll get it right with you right after
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- this and you can look me up on the web
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- thanks everybody good night
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