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[seventh day] they are reduced to ashed matt
[seventh day] ashes
[Matt Yester] so they are annihilated?
[Diane Sellner] ashes?
[His_Elect] 2 Thess 1:9 And these will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord
[Corsican] hsmithson it's easy, all you gotta do is multiply the father by the square root of -1 and Zing!
[seventh day] they are utterly consumed
[Matt Yester] annihilated?
[Shotgun] Is the video glitching for anyone else?
[His_Elect] "there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth there when you see Abraham in the kingdom of God, but yourselves being cast out." Mathew 22:13
[Battle Hymn] destruction in the original means ruin i believe
[Corsican] Disclaimer: The previous message posted by "Corsican" is copyrighted to hunt_mat
[Battle Hymn] eternal ruin
[Shotgun] <--changing to green
[seventh day] it's weird that you are using matthew
[Shotgun] Some guy named "Mitchel" is calling in via Skype
[ZeusLovesU] mitch from canada
[ZeusLovesU] i like this caller
[Parvinder] Noct!
[JaxSparkles] Such a smooth voice Mitch
[Parvinder] :D
[Shotgun] We're going to play the game
[hunt_mat] I sense a replay of the Matt D debate.
[Corsican] Pretty sexy voice
[His_Elect] Rev 14:11 "And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; and they have no rest day and night"
[Nocterro] Mitch's voice is intoxicating
[His_Elect] # Rev 20:10 they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
[Corsican] I'd tap that
[JaxSparkles]    Noc
[ZeusLovesU]    nocterro
[seventh day] because we can use matthew
[Parvinder] Nocterro - Like Nutella?
[Shotgun] my audio is glitching
[JaxSparkles]
[Nocterro] yes.
[JaxSparkles] So is mine Shotgun
[ZeusLovesU] he sounds like a philosophy student
Shotgun wonders what sort of metaphysical world provides for logical laws that Mitch is discussing
[Shotgun] AHHHHH
[Shotgun] point 1
[Matt Yester]
[Shotgun] he just alluded to his Canadian University
[Nocterro] He is, Zeus.
[Shotgun] Had to slide it in there
[Parvinder] I bet he's at U. of Toronto.
[ZeusLovesU] why do you say that Parv?
[Corsican] Toronto is apretty good city
[Nocterro] he's at Maplemoose University
[ZeusLovesU] haha nocterro
[Parvinder] *cough cough* I know him *cough cough*
[Battle Hymn] maplesyrup univ
[JaxSparkles]
Corsican has no idea what Mitch just said
[ZeusLovesU] i bet hes at Canuckistan College
[Shotgun] What sort of universe is there that makes "sentensial logic" possible?
[Parvinder] He's a good philosopher.
[santiago272] how to yall do that think like a action???
[Parvinder] Shotgun - This one.
[Parvinder] Shotgun - or any other one, too.
[Shotgun] Of course, "this one" is a trait of a universe that makes sentensial logic possible
[Matt Yester] it just is....trancendental
[santiago272] corsican
[Corsican] Yes santiago272?
[Parvinder] I'm not sure what you mean by ""this one" is a trait of a universe..."
[santiago272] how did u do that "action" text thingy
[Shotgun] Why aren't you sure?
[Shotgun] It seems like a pretty clear statement
[Corsican] By typing [/me] without the square brackets
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Corsican types /me and then the text I wish to say
[Shotgun] You see, this is what gets me about the kids in these chatrooms who are trying to ape the analytical philosophers they read
santiago272 chickenn
[Parvinder] It's ambigious. You many understand what you are saying. I don't.
Corsican nods at santiago
[JBaker45] I think the caller is missing the point
[Parvinder] mau*
[Parvinder] may***
[Battle Hymn] whats so special about that corsican
[Shotgun] When you try to say that you don't understand something, or if you imply that something isn't clear, you have to show why, and perhaps present a few views that it could be, and then refute those.
[tHe KId SoG] wait what?! that is where the law of noncontradition comes from sentential logic?
[Corsican] Nothing really Battle Hymn
[Corsican] If you want to do it
[Shotgun] But, anyway
[Parvinder] Well, I have shown why.
[tHe KId SoG] umm aristotle and syllogistic logic
[Corsican] It just adds a bit of variation to the text
Battle Hymn i guess
[Shotgun]
[Battle Hymn] what does me stand for?
[SFSW] hi jb
[JBaker45] hello sf
[Parvinder] [Parvinder] It's ambigious. You many understand what you are saying. I don't.
[Parvinder]
[Shotgun]
[tHe KId SoG] those laws came from aristotle
[Battle Hymn] i wonder if you can change the color
[Parvinder] You may have missed that.
[Corsican] Typing /me allows you to do the "[NAME] Text" thing
[Shotgun] What you should do, Parvinder, if you want to be a really real analytical philosopher, is present 2 or three things that it could have meant, and interact with each.
Corsican demonstrates
[ZeusLovesU] This caller is excellent
[JaxSparkles] yes he is
[JBaker45] Caller should be questioned regarding Godels theorem which show us that truth exists outside of formal systems
[Parvinder] Shotgun - Sure. I was going to do that now actually.
[JBaker45] caliptal T Truth
[littledb] ZeusLovesU he is being respectful.
[Shotgun] Go for it
[Shotgun] I read a book on Godel once
[Shotgun] Or, on his theory
Corsican wishes he could be bothered to get out of bed and fetch more whiskey
[Shotgun] Talk about complex stuff.
[Parvinder] So? I've read 10 logic books.
[Parvinder] lol.
[Parvinder] Anyways.
Shotgun wasn't even talking to Parvinder
[Parvinder] You said, "this one" is a trait of a universe that makes sentensial logic possible"
[Battle Hymn] whats your brand?
[Corsican] This is a 21 year old Glengoyne single malt
Parvinder wasn't even talking to Shotgun.
[Corsican] My favourite is the 21 yr Ardberg
[Parvinder] So yea.
[Matt Slick] is this interesting
[JBaker45] Mankind would never had any use for formal systametized systems of reasoning is truth hdid not really exist in the first place.
Corsican loves whiskey
[Parvinder] Matt Slick - Indeed.
[Corsican] Yes Matt
[JBaker45] is==if
[His_Elect] yes, it's good
[Shotgun] Leblanc is just wrapping his naive empiricism up in ...what he hopes, sounds like...fancy logical language.
[JBaker45] The systems were developed in order to study truth
[JBaker45] Thus truth came first
[Matt Yester] the systems revels logical truth
[Shotgun] wow
[Shotgun] holy pink
[Matt Yester] does this color make me look gay? :D
[Shotgun] I can't hardly see it
[Matt Yester] sorry
[Matt Yester]
[Shotgun]
[Battle Hymn] white is a fun color because you have to highlight it to read it
[Matt Yester] the systems reveal logical truth
[Matt Yester] just jokin
[Battle Hymn] will anyone wonder if i wrote anything?
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Corsican smacks Battle Hymn for his annoying use of white text
[Battle Hymn] anyone>
[Shotgun]    BHymn
[Parvinder] But yea. I think what you mean is "this one" is an attribute of the universe.
[Eagle 223] hello yaq
[Battle Hymn]
[Shotgun] Corsican...you don't like white text?
[Shotgun] Are you a hater?
[Heather] Battle Hymn I can see it
[Corsican] Yes
[seventh day] 40 Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. 42 Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour[a] your Lord is coming.
[YAQUBOS] †Peace be with you all!
[Corsican] I hate white things
[Parvinder] Could be wrong.
[seventh day] matt
[Corsican] White annoys me
[Corsican] In fact
[YAQUBOS] Eagle 223 wins
[Heather] Yaqubos hi
[Parvinder] If I am, you can correct it and we could move on.
[YAQUBOS] Heather loses
[Corsican] I use a black marker to colour in the white sections of my screen
[His_Elect] seventh day -- what are you discussing?
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[Heather] YAQUBOS    I always do
[Ladd] Grace and Peace.
[Heather] Ladd Hi There
[seventh day] i stepped away
[Ladd] Thank you Matt Slick and Diane Sellner for this great ministry.
[Ladd] Hi Heather!.
[Corsican] Pace and Grease to you too
[seventh day] i'm still on he11
[Matt Yester] me< matt? seventh day
[seventh day] yes
[Matt Yester] word Ladd
[YAQUBOS] Heather did you receive my greeting sent on the wings of the eagle?
[JBaker45] Useless systems are easy to create. But why do it?
[Ladd] Blessings Matt Yester.
[Heather] YAQUBOS Yes I did thank you.
[seventh day] do you want to be left or taken
[Parvinder] Woah. Mitch's understanding of logic is very profound.
[Shotgun] Really?
[JBaker45] In a system that permits contradiction, anything can be validated. What good is that?
[ZeusLovesU] best caller ive heard so far
[JaxSparkles] My eyes are not bleeding yet
[Shotgun] This, coming from someone whose read 10 books on logic...
[Corsican] Yeah ZeusLovesU
[Parvinder] I was jk. About the 10 books.
[YAQUBOS] how many topics are being discussed besides the usual 27681234 topics?
[Shotgun] Darn
[Matt Yester] left
[littledb] thanks Matt Slick
[Corsican] Yeah Matt don't fret
[JBaker45] He did sound like a nice guy
[Matt Yester] the first taken are the wicked
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[Heather] bye Matt
[Shotgun] Matt....Mitchell was doing what Van Til calls: "Waiving his sword in the air at nothing"
[Parvinder] I've read a lot of articles though, and a few books. And in a graduate levil logic course.
[Corsican] Was the best of your shows I've seen
[Eagle 223] bye matt
[Shotgun] He's not in here Matt
[santiago272] matt do u rent ur office?
[Matt Yester] great show matt
[seventh day] so you want to be left
[Shotgun] oops
[Parvinder] But anyways.
[Shotgun] yes he is
[JBaker45] Agreed Shotgun
[santiago272] matt do u rent your office?
[Ladd] God is so good.
[santiago272] oh
[Matt Yester] love TAG
[Matt Yester] fun stuff
[Ladd] And, God is worthy of worship.
[santiago272] no this office
[Eagle 223] yaq...radio show over
[Heather] Ladd amen
[Ladd] God is worthy of worship.
[Parvinder]
[JBaker45] santiago, Matt is in the studio
[SFSW] good call, respectful
[Ladd] Praise him.
[santiago272] u should have kept him on and let the u stream ppl listen
[YAQUBOS] Eagle 223 I hope it was helpful as usual
[Heather] was that mitchleblanc
[Shotgun] Yes
[Eagle 223] it was
[Corsican] Matt
[tHe KId SoG] Yes Ladd
[Corsican] Why don't you use the chair behind you?
[Ladd] Pride on low, faith on high, kid.
[Corsican] Looks way more comfy than the one you're on
[tHe KId SoG]
[hunt_mat] I would argue the logical absolutes from observations from nature.
[tHe KId SoG] lecrae haha
[Corsican] Yeah
[Matt Yester] to develop the system, you need to use logic
[hunt_mat] being a physicist.
[Corsican] Ah
[Ladd] ...turn my treble up....bass on high
[JBaker45] I studied symbolic logic for my minor in mathematics
[Ladd]
[Corsican] Sympathies man
[Parvinder] hunt_mat - I would say that they come from language.
[Parvinder] As a logician.
[tHe KId SoG] wow yep I definitely know who this is now haha,I'm going to shut up though
[JaxSparkles] Matt do you preach at a church?
[Corsican] Pretty chilled
[YAQUBOS] I am a busy scientist, that's why I stay in CARM chatroom for long hours...
[Parvinder] (in training)
[Eagle 223]    yaq
[Corsican] Neither can I
[santiago272] matt do u pay for the Radio timeslot out of ur pocket or carm?
[Heather]
[SFSW] 11th
[hunt_mat] Other people have said that.
[Corsican] 12th
[Corsican] Not 11th
[Matt Yester] TAG
[seventh day] its 11/11
[YAQUBOS] especially now, when I have two jobs...
[Corsican] It's 12/11
[Heather] No its the 11th
[hunt_mat] But we observe what matt refers to laws of logic in nature all the time.
[His_Elect] and trinity
[santiago272] Matt do u pay for the radio timeslot out of your pocket?
[Eagle 223] how's it going
[santiago272] or carm
[Corsican] Ah
[Corsican] Time zones
[JBaker45] Sure thing Matt
[Corsican] It's the 12th for me
[Heather] Corsican
[Eagle 223] if you live in the UK...it's the 12
[YAQUBOS] Eagle 223 thx for the prayers
[Heather] ok
[seventh day] not the 10th
[JaxSparkles] Oh okay, just wondering
[Eagle 223] yes yaq...of course
[Parvinder] hunt_mat - Ehh. How so?
[santiago272] Matt do you use CARMS donations to pay for the radio timeslot?!
[Heather] YAQUBOS Is it two full time jobs?
[Matt Yester] conceptual by nature
[YAQUBOS] Heather no
[hunt_mat] I believe it is. That is where we differ.
[Heather] YAQUBOS Still a lot of hours
[YAQUBOS] sheesh
[santiago272] ahhhh
[Corsican] Isn't that what the donations would be for?
[Shotgun] Well, according to some people's ideals of "Logic" ...if there is no brain to contribute to the logical reasoning, then there can't be any logical laws
[YAQUBOS] I learned that yesterday
[Dark_Calamity] hello santiago
[ZeusLovesU] Logic is very much like language in that sense; it's not a 'real' thing but it describes the way things are
[Heather] YAQUBOS
[YAQUBOS] sheesh
[YAQUBOS] no, I didnt mean sheesh
[Eagle 223]
[santiago272] Hey dark
[JaxSparkles] God bless you Matt
[YAQUBOS] I am just doing a revision of my lesson
[hunt_mat] we know of logic from observations of consistancy we observe in nature.
[santiago272] Woow and u hire a web designer?
[Eagle 223] yes
[Heather] Yaqubos
[Matt Yester] taxes suck
[seventh day] change your tag for the show from the 10th to the 11th matt
[Matt Yester]
[hunt_mat] No.
[Corsican] Shouldn't you be tax free?
[santiago272] u do it yourself?
[Corsican] Being a ministry?
[Corsican] Ah right
[YAQUBOS] Corsican you're in danger
[Corsican] Of what yaqubos?
[Shotgun] Have a CARMwash
[YAQUBOS] Corsican guess
[Heather] Shotgun
[His_Elect]
[Shotgun]
[Parvinder] Observations of consistancy? How is that possible sans logic Hunt?
[Heather] carmwash
[santiago272] u should have a giant funraiser selling keychains, raffles etc
[Corsican] Yaqubos a cold?
[Corsican] Could be a cold
[YAQUBOS] Corsican wrong
[hunt_mat] observations when you know nothing and making observations is not begging the question.
[Corsican] My controller has a cold
[Corsican] Erm
[santiago272] u should have a giant funraiser selling keychains, raffles etc
[Corsican] Let's think
[Shotgun] Or, get lots of paint-ball guns and gun down atheists and take their pocket money
[Corsican] ...
[Corsican] ...
[Corsican] ...
[Corsican] A crash?
[Shotgun] too much?
[Eagle 223] bake sale
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[YAQUBOS] Eagle, what's a crash?
[Heather]
[Corsican] My car has a loose wheel that I can't be bothered to fix
[Eagle 223] heather is a good baker
[Heather] no eagle is..
[Heather]
[North] color check...
[tHe KId SoG]
[Eagle 223]
[Shotgun] check
[Corsican] So I suppose I could be in danger of a crash
[Corsican] Is that it yaqubos ?
[santiago272] are you sponsored by any big companys????
[YAQUBOS] Corsican wait plz. My English teacher is busy
[hunt_mat] foe example, if A has the same mass as B and B has the same mass as C then we observe that A has the same mass as C.
[Eagle 223] yaq...a crash is when one thing hits another
[Ladd] GnarlyOcelot?
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[Eagle 223] such as a car crash
[santiago272] Isnt CARM sponsored by any big companys
[Ladd] I'm ready to discuss Quine's paper....
[YAQUBOS] Corsican wrong guess
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[Corsican] Well
[JaxSparkles] Wow....$$
[Shotgun] Which one Ladd?
[Corsican] Maybe it's a fall?
[Ladd] Parvinder did you get around to reading the Quine paper?
[Shotgun] Quine's "Philosophy of Logic" ?
[YAQUBOS] Corsican wrong
[Ladd] Shotgun, "On What There Is"
[Corsican] Being caught in a downpour?
[Shotgun] Ahh
[Shotgun] I have his Philosophy of Logic, and it's pretty interesting
[hunt_mat] NO. I am observing them. You can deny this all you want but this is how the fundamentals of science are built upon.
[YAQUBOS] Eagle, what's a downpour?
[santiago272] Tell candice i said hi or however her name is spelled
[JBaker45] To Quine a phrase is to preceed it by its quotation
[Shotgun] I think Hunt_Mat would enjoy it...Quine discusses attempts to empirically verify the laws of logic