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- zaziuma: eff moral
- zaziuma: and cad
- piggyhero141: no eff
- zaziuma: heh?
- piggyhero141: hen a monster(s) (except a Spellcaster-Type monster) is Normal or Special Summoned to your opponent's side of the field while you control another face-up Spell Card and your opponent does not control
- zaziuma: ah I see
- zaziuma: but, that's not a continuous effect
- zaziuma: that's a trigger effect
- zaziuma: So, it forms a Chain to my Summon
- piggyhero141: still
- piggyhero141: no eff
- zaziuma: yeah
- piggyhero141: cant use eff
- piggyhero141: read
- zaziuma: CL1 your Spell, CL2 cad, CL3 moral
- zaziuma: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Simultaneous_Effects_Go_On_Chain
- zaziuma: You know, I am not going to destroy that card
- zaziuma: Your guy is dead
- piggyhero141: monster cannot attack or activate its effects this turn
- zaziuma: Yes, I know
- zaziuma: However, that's a trigger effect
- zaziuma: it hasn't yet resolved
- zaziuma: Moral resolves first
- piggyhero141: ojk
- piggyhero141: how you use the eff ?
- piggyhero141: HOEW :
- zaziuma: the effect of moral?
- piggyhero141: when it summ
- piggyhero141: right ?
- zaziuma: Eh, by using it
- zaziuma: I don't understand your question buddy
- piggyhero141: when it summ
- piggyhero141: he cant use he eff
- zaziuma: Where are you from?
- zaziuma: I don't think english is your first language
- piggyhero141: i aply in burwood
- piggyhero141: aus
- zaziuma: austrailia?
- zaziuma: So, you do understand english yeah?
- piggyhero141: i konw ruling
- zaziuma: So, why is this so hard to understand?
- zaziuma: I very much doubt that
- zaziuma: You can see that secret sanctuary triggers
- zaziuma: As it has a colon
- piggyhero141: is a ocg
- piggyhero141: card
- zaziuma: just like moral
- zaziuma: it triggers
- zaziuma: form as chain according to SEGOC
- piggyhero141: so i am not sure
- zaziuma: If you don't know what that is
- zaziuma: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Simultaneous_Effects_Go_On_Chain
- piggyhero141: dude
- piggyhero141: you jsut dumb
- piggyhero141: is a ocg
- zaziuma: I love when people say taht
- piggyhero141: NOTA TCG
- zaziuma: And what is that suppose to prove?
- piggyhero141: the ruling is not out
- zaziuma: What ruling?
- piggyhero141: for the card in tcg
- zaziuma: What card?
- zaziuma: moral?
- zaziuma: It doesn't really need a ruling, it's quite clear that it's a trigger effect
- zaziuma: your card has PSCT
- zaziuma: it clearly triggers and starts a chain
- piggyhero141: DUDE
- zaziuma: Dude yourself.
- zaziuma: Please stop rule sharking okay
- zaziuma: It won't get you anywhere
- piggyhero141: if i activate
- piggyhero141: the spell
- zaziuma: I wrote a whole rule book buddy
- piggyhero141: then you chain
- zaziuma: I know my shit
- piggyhero141: on to my spell
- zaziuma: yes
- piggyhero141: then you get the eff
- zaziuma: yes
- piggyhero141: but
- zaziuma: But what?
- piggyhero141: i activate my sepll card in m1
- piggyhero141: then bp
- piggyhero141: i atk
- zaziuma: yes
- zaziuma: true again
- piggyhero141: OMG
- zaziuma: So, what's the problem?
- piggyhero141: people so dumb
- zaziuma: No, I think you are, since you arn't understanding this very basic chain
- zaziuma: You have yet to explain to me why what I said is wrong.
- zaziuma: Please, convince me that you're right.
- piggyhero141: when i activate in M1 then you chain your trap
- piggyhero141: you are right you get the eff
- piggyhero141: but
- zaziuma: I activated it in ythe Battle Phase
- piggyhero141: you didt
- piggyhero141: you activated on bp
- zaziuma: Yeah, I ddi
- zaziuma: did*
- zaziuma: that is the battle phase...
- piggyhero141: so my spell work still
- zaziuma: I activated it after you used assailant
- piggyhero141: is just like trap stun
- zaziuma: That doesn't even make sense
- zaziuma: it's not, like at all
- piggyhero141: you are dumb
- piggyhero141: LOL
- zaziuma: you keep saying that, but you're still wrong
- piggyhero141: The term "SEGOC" is known in the OCG
- piggyhero141: iS OCG
- piggyhero141: LOL
- zaziuma: What the fuck are you talking about?
- piggyhero141: omg go fuck youslrf
- zaziuma: Will d
- zaziuma: do*
- piggyhero141: go playwith jap people
- zaziuma: I don't speak Japanese
- zaziuma: Also, what does that have to do with anything?
- zaziuma: The rules are still the same
- zaziuma: Well, we arn't getting anywhere
- piggyhero141: what rule
- piggyhero141: show me
- piggyhero141: which one ?
- zaziuma: The freaking SEGOC rule
- zaziuma: I have posted a link 2 times
- zaziuma: It explains everything very clearly
- zaziuma: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Simultaneous_Effects_Go_On_Chain
- zaziuma: Dumtidum
- zaziuma: You reading it?
- piggyhero141: LOL
- piggyhero141: i jsut waiting
- piggyhero141: for admin
- zaziuma: This is unrated
- zaziuma: There are no admins
- piggyhero141: i still want to konw
- piggyhero141: you can go
- zaziuma: I'll wait
- zaziuma: I have nothing better to do anyway
- zaziuma: Why don't you ask guybrush
- zaziuma: He's an admin
- piggyhero141: i still dont ge thow you neg my spell eff
- zaziuma: I havn't negated anything
- zaziuma: your spell effect still resolves
- zaziuma: but my effect resolves first
- zaziuma: Chains resolve backwards
- piggyhero141: i konw it
- zaziuma: From the newest Chain Link (CL 3) to the first Chain Link (Chain Link 1)
- piggyhero141: but
- zaziuma: Then what's the problem?
- zaziuma: The effect to negate effects and prevent me from attacking hasn't resolved
- zaziuma: As such, my effect goes through destroying your monster
- piggyhero141: when trap stun activate you can still chain trap
- zaziuma: Is that so hard to undestand?
- zaziuma: Yeah
- zaziuma: That's correct
- piggyhero141: but i activate at M1
- zaziuma: Also, you can still activate traps, they are just negated, but that's besides the point
- piggyhero141: but you didt chain
- piggyhero141: no
- zaziuma: You see the colon on your spell?
- zaziuma: That means it starts a Chain
- zaziuma: When my monster was Summoned, it started a Chain
- zaziuma: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Problem-Solving_Card_Text
- zaziuma: That explains the colons and stuff
- zaziuma: If you need it
- piggyhero141: when trap stun activate you can still chain and the eff still go thoght
- zaziuma: yes
- zaziuma: Kind of the same here
- zaziuma: Since it hasn't resolved yet
- zaziuma: my effect goes through
- piggyhero141: see
- piggyhero141: when i my spell activate at m1
- piggyhero141: my spell eff resolved
- zaziuma: sure
- piggyhero141: already
- zaziuma: but, your spell has an effect that activates
- zaziuma: and starts a chain
- zaziuma: as indicated by the colon
- zaziuma: opponent does not control any face-up Spell Cards: That
- zaziuma: See the colon there?
- zaziuma: That means it starts a Chain
- zaziuma: Well.
- zaziuma: I have explained all I need to for you to understand
- zaziuma: Why are you still being stubborn about this
- zaziuma: I have proved links too
- piggyhero141: ok some me a another exaple
- piggyhero141: in tcg card
- zaziuma: Ok
- zaziuma: Let's take Rescue Rabbit
- piggyhero141: k
- zaziuma: hm, actually not that card
- zaziuma: let's take tour guide
- piggyhero141: k
- zaziuma: When you summon that card, your spell activates
- zaziuma: when, tour guide activates
- zaziuma: CL1 is your spell, CL2 is tour guide
- zaziuma: Tour guide resolves first
- zaziuma: Summoning a level 3 fiend
- zaziuma: then, afterwards, it has its effect negated, and it cannot attack
- piggyhero141: no
- piggyhero141: i neg
- piggyhero141: tour eff
- piggyhero141: he cant summ
- zaziuma: This is what you don't understand
- zaziuma: It isn't continuous
- zaziuma: it activates
- zaziuma: meaning, it won't resolve right away
- zaziuma: you know how chains work?
- zaziuma: then you should know that when an effect activates, it doesn't resolve right away
- zaziuma: only when the chain resolves, which it does backwards, otherwise, counter traps would be useless
- zaziuma: In case you're one of those that don't like wikia links, here's from the official YGO blog:
- zaziuma: https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=2947
- zaziuma: I kind of find it insane how long this simple ruling needs to take to get into your head.
- zaziuma: It's like you're refusing to learn
- zaziuma: Are you afraid of being wrong?
- piggyhero141: i admit
- piggyhero141: idc
- zaziuma: Or what is it.
- piggyhero141: i jsut wait
- piggyhero141 admitted defeat
- zaziuma: For what
- piggyhero141 has left the duel
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