otter: Honestly, why did you and Stick have to do that whole forum thing
otter: Did you like Shuruia?
otter: and Dano?
Finnick`: I didn't really have a problem with them
Finnick`: because they didn't really do anything directly to me
otter: yeah, not to you or Stick.
otter: They did stuff to me though.
otter: They backstabbed and betrayed.
otter: They constantly led me to believe other things.
Finnick`: Hmmmm
Finnick`: I had no idea
Finnick`: But I mean the forum thing wasn't really directed mainly on Dano and Shuruia
otter: didnt expect you to
otter: Rick?
otter: Rick is trying to do something else with the garry's mod community, rather than seeing it crash and burn.
Finnick`: I was talking generally about how GFL isn't really doing shit anymore and the directors saying they are "going in the right direction"
Finnick`: Like what
otter: The directors are going in the right direction currently. Their team isnt split in half, they're organizing actual things, they're trying to be as helpful as they can to each other.
otter: Rick wants to make Garry's Mod more. Try to actually fix the broken servers.
otter: Get better management put into play.
otter: you
otter: You and me both know that Garry's mod management has been shit.
otter: and yes, I know that you're about to say "putting admins at a set color" isn't getting better management. He was trying to put them in a uniform.
otter: He wants that throughout the community. An easier way to see admins.
Finnick`: Mhm
Finnick`: But what about Denros and Snoopy, what are they doing to help? I know that CS:S is a dying game, but I see plenty of servers that are capable of getting a stable population everyday
Finnick`: Like, people have been talking about that CS:S Deathrun server Drake put up as a server suggestion, and Thomas told me that the Directors are undecided about a server manager, yet they are leaving Thomas in the dark of info for those servers
otter: Snoopy is trying to bring the community together. Make it more friendly to the eye. Take drama out and stop stupid people being put into place. He is also helping in expansion and everything, but mostly making sure everything is tidy.
Finnick`: That's good
otter: Denros is an amazing developer. Has been and probably will be for awhile.
otter: He's needed to make sure that the Directors have what they need, and managers have what they need.
otter: And everyone else in between.
otter: They all have their roles.
otter: Shuruia and Dano didn't fit.
Finnick`: Quick question
otter: Sure
Finnick`: Why is your Otter account still banned
otter: They're working on that actually.
Finnick`: Because I was like "if he's happy tree anyways, why is his otter account still outie"
otter: Snoopy and Rick have both said it doesnt matter if im banned now, my ban reason was stupid, but it shouldn't have been permanent.
otter: I told Rick and Snoopy I WOULD not be dumb if they didn't do something dumb.
otter: AKA promoting dan.
Finnick`: hahaha
otter: I have more respect for the team now than it was in 2016 and part of 2015
Finnick`: I can tolerate them, but I've tried to express my feelings to different things but they just didn't give a single shit
Finnick`: I mean, I don't really care, like for example, before the emoticons and stuff. I seriously don't care about emoticons
Finnick`: But being ignored was just so irritating, I hope they aren't like that like Shuruia and Dano were
otter: Emoticons I think will be someone handled by a "forum manager"
Finnick`: they only added emoticons for Syrus mostly
otter: Yeah, and if you want, I can talk to them about why you're upset in that regard.
otter: Like, Syrus bitching to Shuruia gave him that power, and we should do more voting.
otter: Maybe a monthly voting for new emoticons?
Finnick`: yeah
Finnick`: I do like that
otter: Get a big suggestion list and have people vote?
Finnick`: mhm
otter: Trust me, I'm trying to fix my ass after Rust.
Finnick`: yeah
Finnick`: I'm still very confused though. I know it's Roys main decision on servers. But if Thomas doesn't even know what's going on about CS:S Deathrun, who's making the stuff happen?
Finnick`: Like, Thomas was saying that they have people asking to be manager for Deathrun, but that's all I've got
otter: Roy gets suggestions from Snoopy, Rick, Denros and CAs about servers. If there's enough pros against the cons, it will probably be added or looked into.
otter: I think their main issue is with how many times CSS deathrun has been attempted
otter: with no good manager.
otter: or playerbase to keep the server maintained
Finnick`: I know quite a few people who'd stay on Deathrun
Finnick`: I mean, I'm sure the server doesn't need a /64 playerbase
otter: I mean, if you could bring it up to Roy/Snoopy/Rick and a few of the CAs with why it would be a good idea, I'm sure they would like to listen to it.
Finnick`: Roy hates me
Finnick`: like absolutely hates me
otter: But with recent they don't like your actions with Stick and the thing right after Shuruia.
Finnick`: like even before the shuruia thing
otter: So you might just need to apologize to them about what happened.
otter: Trust me, apologizing its difficult, but you can say something like, "I just wanted to start this off with an apology for the recent behavior from me. I was upset about (x) and I went over the top."
otter: Nothing fancy.
Finnick`: uh huh
otter: You might not like apologizing, but here's the thing. It's words over the internet.
otter: Theres not emotion to them unless you make them have emotion.
otter: I'd know that best.
Finnick`: To be completly honest (might sound like I'm bullshitting) but my memory isn't great. I can't even remember why Roy is mad about (before the Dano - Shuruia thing)
otter: I don't know why he is either.
otter: I might ask him.
Finnick`: I tried asking him in a forum pm, but he just didn't bother reading it
otter: Yeah. I'll ask him.